Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%

  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%
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DumbDude42 said:
yeah thermite is a welding tool, not a weapon. even for IEDs this stuff is near worthless, all it does is slowly melt a hole in whatever thing you place it on. the theoretical best case scenario for it is probably as a sabotage tool where you use it to fuck up the engine block of a parked vehicle when nobody is watching, other than that i don't think there's any useful application for it in a conflict zone
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Some journo on tv said they used it to make the raise the temperature in the tunnels. Which is an interesting strategy and makes sense but journos lie.
 
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Your World in Scarlet said:
I think the Russian evidence for the Ukrainian invasion of Snake Island is extremely weak compared the Ukrainian evidence for their air attack on the island.

It took the Russians a couple days to come up with a video that shows some people lying on the ground and some weapons used by Ukraine. That's absurdly little compared to their boasts.

On the other hand this would be at least the second successful attack by Ukraine on the island, both are supported with video and picture evidence that shows pretty much what is claimed.
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We have proof that Ukrainian boots were on the ground. This heavily supports the Russian claims of bombings (confirmed by Ukrainian video of them), followed and preceded by heavy UAV activity (confirmed by both sides) and an eventual landing. They didn't teleport there. Not only that but we also got confirmation from the Ukrainians that Igor Bedzai died there - who was apparently piloting a helicopter. Bedzai was an important guy - deputy commander of the Ukrainian Navy (for aviation) and one of their most senior pilots. All the evidence points towards a strong attack on Snake Island that failed miserably.

The claim in the very first day of the landing on the island was that the Russians had waited for the Ukrainians to land, destroyed all their boats and helicopters, and stranded them on the island. There isn't any proof that would make me believe this wasn't the case, especially when I see several Ukrainians dead on the Island and no helicopter wreckage. Also notable is that Ukrainian sources confirmed Bedzai was shot down by a fighter missile - and the Russians also claim that all the helicopters used on the attack were destroyed by Russian aviation.

When it comes to their boasts - well, it would be absurdly lucky if any of the jets, UAVs and helicopters crashed in the island instead of the ocean, not to mention the landing and attack craft. 6 helicopters were also claimed to be destroyed in an airfield in Odessa - though they were meant to join the attack. There will likely never be any way to confirm this, but we know at least one pilot was there, and died, presumably with his helicopter.

Considering Russia's track record of lies about just about everything in this conflict, and them offering no evidence for yet another incredible claim (remember the many NATO officers they captured, he biolab bullshit, the great victories that were won in the North and around Kharkov
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Of these, none of them but the biolabs stuff was ever said by the MoD if I remember correctly. Everything else was from other randoms who can't really be expected to be accurate. It's a war, and claims are constantly made and immediately disproven by both sides.

Your World in Scarlet said:
I think it's unreasonable to believe the Russian version of this story.
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The Ukrainians admitted they attack Snake Island, there is no "russian version", unless you mean the version with heavy losses vs the version where apparently the Ukrainians attacked the Island with a single helicopter, which I personally find unbelievable.
Your World in Scarlet said:
Why do you think that the Russians are retreating from the area around Kharkov without putting up much of a fight?
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Because that's what all Russian sources have been saying, and I've seen very little of any fighting, let alone heavy, anywhere other than Cossack Lopan where a small Ukrainian offensive was beaten back. Right now, however, there are clashes in Buhruvatka as the Ukrainians attempt to take it.
Your World in Scarlet said:
Ukrainian sources claim there's heavy fighting with significant losses on both sides,
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I haven't seen any proof of heavy losses from both sides around the border. What we saw was a very rapid Ukrainian advance (often taking several villages within hours). This wouldn't happen with heavy fighting, even the dinkiest small village that's well defended would take more than that to take. In fact, the only reported fighting I've heard about involved LPR conscripts near Staryi Saltiv and obviously didn't go their way.

Of course, I may have missed something, who knows.

important Russian facilities in Belgorod are coming into range of the Ukrainian army
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It's worth saying that most of these have always been in range of the Smerch and Pion systems. The problem with attacking Belgorod isn't range, it's getting your limited artillery arsenal destroyed by counter battery fire or spotted by UAVs and subsequently destroyed by aviation because you want to hit targets of questionable importance in a place where you have no SAM umbrella. I imagine anything nailed to the ground that's valuable within artillery range has already, or is in the process of, being moved. But that's just a guess.
 
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White_N said:
I liked Your World in Scarlet's tirade more about how dangerous Russian propaganda is and how their viewers' minds have been brainwashed.
The Ministry of Truth could not find a better advertisement.
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People could be susceptible to russian propaganda... if western governments didnt outright ban any and all russian channels. Because when they do it, its propaganda. When we do it, its Honest and Real Truth.
 
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Retired Junta Member said:
Some journo on tv said they used it to make the raise the temperature in the tunnels. Which is an interesting strategy and makes sense but journos lie.
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Holy fuck, that would be the most retarded shit ever unless napalm was poured down the air filtration system or something, not some light sprinkle of incendiaries on top of meters upon meters of probably still cold ground and concrete.
Not the first article to this effect. Probably not the last.
Why does western media suddenly discourage going to Ukraine? Isn't killing Russians as easy as pie?
 
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Retired Junta Member said:
Some journo on tv said they used it to make the raise the temperature in the tunnels. Which is an interesting strategy and makes sense but journos lie.
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They'd have to at least burn it directly in the air intakes for the tunnels. Do they even have air intakes?
I don't know how deep the first level is, but it's not easy to transfer that temperature into the underground by burning stuff in the surface. Same reason heat collected during the summer can be stored and used through winter with heat pumps, the ground acts as insulator.
 
greenshield said:
Ukrainians apparently reached the border with Russia near Kharkiv
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Russian special forces soldiers in Mariupol
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Wait a second, computer, zoom in and enhance.
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Which of you cat avatars is this?
 
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kuuu said:
Holy fuck, that would be the most retarded shit ever unless napalm was poured down the air filtration system or something, not some light sprinkle of incendiaries on top of meters upon meters of probably still cold ground and concrete.
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Yeah it didn’t make much sense because it they really wanted to fumigate the people in there, they could have used a lot of more effective methods.
But I’m not a weapon expert so I gave it the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Recent cope numbers from Rybar
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I can't get over how according to him the Ukies somehow have over twice as many killed over wounded. Plus they're around as fenatical to fight to death as the imperial Japanese. Don't forget he has insiders among the Ukie General Staff.
greenshield said:
Ukrainians apparently reached the border with Russia near Kharkiv
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Unsurprising, we got rumored, unsubstantiated reports of such a few days ago, but it was clearly heading in that direction. The Russian troops that withdrew from Kharkiv will be in Donbass within the next week.
 
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Su-27 Flanker-B said:
You say that. Then there is people believing russians lost their most important ship ever.
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Does it even matter? I have served on a ship. I thought I was talking to people that understood that there was a war in the Ukraine and there was a localized number of ships, ergo a flagship. Not exactly secret news, is it? Given that there are more memes of the ship sinking than there are chins in chinatown.

I'm pretty sure they would not have confused the comment with their other fleets. And I'm pretty sure that if some dickhead on here is so uninformed that he would mistake the FLAGSHIP that was sunk as being the most important ship in the Russian arsenal, and was relying on KF for this OLD NEWS then I'm glad I could actually make some retard think Russia lost it's most important ship.

Somehow, despite my entirely ambitious comment, lacking the nomenclature you desire you managed to figure out what I was talking about.

Remarkable. You must be a genius.
 
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