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Moore being angry at Rorschach's popularity seems the opposite of strange to me.

Some pop culture becomes popular by accident, after all.
One thing to note about Watchmen is that the ending was never planned out ahead of time. All that Moore had planned was that Veidt killed Comedian and that IIRC the urban legend, Moore ripped off the fake alien invasion from an episode of "The Outer Limits" ("The Architect of Fear") while writing the second half of the series (hence major delays as the series progressed), got called out on ripping it off by Len Wein (who was the original editor of Watchmen) and Wein quit the book when Moore refused to change the ending (though Wein calling Moore out on his stealing the idea led to Moore tossing in a nod to Outer Limits in the final issue and Wein getting the last laugh by having it made canon that Veidt stole the idea from Outer Limits in Before Watchmen).

Over time, Moore's turning on Rorschach can be seen as him embracing the idea that Veidt was "right" to do the horrible shit he did (something shared by Lindelof and the makers of the TV show, though Geoff Johns himself wholesale rejected this notion that Veidt was right in Doomsday Clock complete with the idea that Veidt would get exposed within a couple of years plus his dream President, Robert Redford would turn out to be a liberal version of Trump in terms of disaster).
 
Even after that the left tried to play it both ways. He was simultaneously a bumbling, unintelligent fool, but also a conniving schemer threatening to plunge the US into a militaristic theocracy. Sometimes they'd try to bridge the two by claiming that Bush was just a puppet who wasn't really in charge, and it was really Cheney and the PNAC faction pulling the strings. I know all this because my parents subjected me to way too much Air America during those years...
Hmmmm, a Republican president who is simultaneously an idiot dum-dum, and an evil conniving genius who's gonna kill us all for real you guys, who is also a puppet for someone far larger (Cheney/PNAC for Bush, Russia/Putin for Trump)? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
........ trees breath in the carbon dioxide we humas breath out. They in turn give us the oxygen we need to breath in.

Am I missing something? Even kindergardeners know this shit. Removing the carbon dioxide is going to kill the trees.
I'm terrified that this regime's exponentially increasing retardation is gonna infect me by osmosis.

Then just nuke us all and be done with it. They have their bunkers, it's no skin off their asses if the rest of us have to play IRL Fallout.
Farms have become too efficient gotta suppress that by lowering the CO2 as if that correlates to rising temperatures. If it actually did we’d be burnt to a crisp. Trying to trigger a famine to reduce pop or some shit.

Even worse, carbon monoxide should be the target gas, IIRC because nothing likes that, not even trees. But there is no way to target one gas cheaply and efficiently and there probably never will be due to this social selectivity bullshit when it comes to hiring, as opposed to merit.
 
Take with a grain of salt but the Gateway Pundit is saying Arizona law enforcement raided some of the non profits from the 2000 Mules movie. According to the Gateway Pundit some of the people busted are already talking. Last week Yuma County opened a couple of voter fraud cases, so this might be a continuation of that.
 
What supplemenatry materials? If Moore didn't write it, it may as well not be canon anyways. The non-Moore comics were garbage.
Moore kept things super vague; Rorchach's diary is in the hands of a newspaper, but it's a right wing newspaper and even then, in the hands of an underling at the paper who has (as the series ended) only read the first page/does not have any clue what the diary is and is in it and who may or may not run it in the paper as filler.

In the two sequels:

Doomsday Clock: the newspaper underling gets killed by Veidt when he finds out about the diary and frames some random guy for the crime, but the diary's existence and content is leaked to the public before Veidt could kill the guy/destroy it. The patsy however get good lawyers who get his conviction overturned AND prove everything in the diary, because Veidt got sloppy by this point due to Robert Redford turning out to be a complete degenerate of a President and picking as a VP a pro-Palestinian type who eventually kills attorney general/threatens to kill the Israel ambassador he takes hostage right before WW3 starts because the left are utterly off the rails at this point in time due to the implication that one of the left's top darlings/powerbrokers is a mass murderer.

In the end, once Veidt is revealed to be behind the destruction of NYC, WW3 starts ramping up again and Redford fucks shit up and we get a super limited nuclear war with what's left of NYC destroyed by the bombs.

Then there is the TV show.......


Veidt basically has a massive multi-year plan set up for the nation, with Robert Redford as being President being part of the scheme. Sadly, he made a video gloating about everything he did and his "Great Liberal Leap Forward" for America that leads to Redford ordering Veidt turned into a liberal pariah and basically out of power. Veidt ends up peddling new age hippie shit that the public rejects and ends up on one of Jupiter's moons in a self-imposed exile until he starts going insane with boredom and begs his daughter, conceived by a Vietnamese helper who stole sperm (Veidt apparently saves every drop of his cum when he jerks off) from Veidt and got the hell out of dodge before Veidt killed his support staff and impregnated herself with her sperm (and her daughter then cloning her dying mother to be her daughter as a fucked up plotline that never made sense).

But even though Redford was disgusted by Veidt's crimes, he and the rest of the Democrats went full fascist against white people and turned America into an aparteid state with white people as second class citizens complete with taxing them into oblivion to shift the income of the working class and middle class onto black Americans via reparations and other benefits (such as blacks being exempted from ever paying a dime in taxes while white people are taxed into oblivion).

(and note this was presented AS A POSITIVE as Lindelof and JJ Abrams based it off of a black supremacist's writings, which included a book demanding white working class/middle class folks being irrevocably beggared so that slave reparations can be paid to black people and completely rework the social order so that black people are the middle class/upper class and that only white people are considered poor as far as "racial justice").

Adding to this, Redford and company were aided by Dr Manhattan, who turned Laurie and Dan into the administration's private wetworks team to murder ANYONE who would stand up to the fascist liberal New World Order. Manhattan used his ability to see into the future to track down anyone who dared to stand up to the system and gave Laurie/Dan their location and ordered them to murder them, which they did. Redford and company didn't do a thing until Laurie/Dan killed Timothy McVeigh and got caught. Manhattan went bye-bye and Laurie agreed to be a regular FBI cop while Dan was forced to rot in prison for life because he had, by that point, gotten red pilled towards the idea that Rorchach was right about needing to bring Veidt to justice to stop his "new world order", combined with the fact that Laurie was still in love with Manhattan (hence the blue dildo in the show; Dan made it right before they were arrested as a "I hate you bitch" type gift).

Meanwhile, Redford and Veidt (before Veidt got cast aside) had the newspaper that ran portions of Rorchach's diary shut down and sued the owners into oblivion and banned the diary from publication. However, the text leaked and became the TV Watchman version of the Turner Diaries in terms of banned forbidden literature.

Oh and the KKK, who knew about the video Veidt made and were responsible for all of the bad shit in the 20th Century including using mind control to make black people violent as far as claiming ANY AND ALL incidents of black people chimping out being mind control caused by KKK infiltration of the police AND were responsible for banning super-heroes, used the tape and the diary to create and army of Rorschach followers to do murder for them (including kiling white cops who won't join the KKK as far as the TV show saying that if you were a CIS gendered white male police officer, you are 99.9% of the time a card carrying Klansman with a mind control device you use to make black people act violent to justify arresting them) so they could one day steal Doctor Manhattan's powers for themselves.

(and the comic sequel, in spite of the the TV show ending with the season two hook of Looking Glass forcing Laurie to arrest Veidt and finally going public with his sins, brushes it all aside by claiming that Veidt's crimes are still unknown and the conservative candidate for President being assassinated to ensure the liberal candidate wins and continues the fascist Thousand Year SJW Reich.


Yeah, it's shit that DC made without Moore involved. I'm pretty sure he would think it's garbage he wouldn't write.
Doomsday Clock is one of two different Watchmen sequels (the other being the abomination of a TV show, which in turn spun off a comic spin-off which was an excuse plot for Tom King to shit on right wing creators like Steve Ditko and Frank Miller).

And it's still be the better of the two, because Geoff Johns explicitly goes out of his way to shit on Veidt apologists by showing how his plan was stupid (and having Lex Luthor question Veidt's claims of intelligence when he hears about it) but also call out Manhattan on his bullshit by implying that the only lesson he learned from letting Veidt get away with everything AND murdering Rorschach, was that he was able to do anything he wanted with no consequence and him doing all sorts of beyond the pale shit, including killing Marthan and Jonathan Kent and erasing Wally West from existence, purely because he could and because he was utterly orgasmic at the prospect of pissing Superman off so badly that time breaks and Manhattan could finally be suprised at future events due to him not being able to determine if he kills Superman or if Superman killing Manhattan destroyes Earth.
 
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The "alien" in the comics also sent out psychic shockwaves that would bother "psychics" for years to come. Adrian was worried that humanity would eventually shrug its collective shoulders after everyone got desensitized to the alien invasion being used to justify all his remaking of society.
What Veidt did was take the brain of the world's most powerful human psychic and use it as the base to grow some alien-looking horror, and then teleport it into NYC, the teleportation causing instant, painful death, its psychic death howl killing not just a bunch of people in NYC, but worldwide, and the survivors having brutal nightmares for years. He wanted to psychically terrify mankind into being afraid of an alien invasion so both sides would work together. I don't think he thought about what might happen to any alien races, if any, we might have encountered as we explored the stars, but... he probably wouldn't have cared since mankind was no longer at risk of blowing itself up with nukes. Sucks to be the xenos, I guess.

Also, that has to be the absolute worst TV show plot I have ever, ever seen.
 
What Veidt did was take the brain of the world's most powerful human psychic and use it as the base to grow some alien-looking horror, and then teleport it into NYC, the teleportation causing instant, painful death, its psychic death howl killing not just a bunch of people in NYC, but worldwide, and the survivors having brutal nightmares for years. He wanted to psychically terrify mankind into being afraid of an alien invasion so both sides would work together. I don't think he thought about what might happen to any alien races, if any, we might have encountered as we explored the stars, but... he probably wouldn't have cared since mankind was no longer at risk of blowing itself up with nukes. Sucks to be the xenos, I guess.

Also, that has to be the absolute worst TV show plot I have ever, ever seen.

Forgot a plot detail. Veidt also arranged to have his teleportation device used sporadically to keep dumping smaller sized genetically manufactured squids at random locations to keep up the ruse that there was an alien race of squids who wanted Earth; having them raining down from the sky via teleportation long after he went into space as far as automating the process.
 
Forgot a plot detail. Veidt also arranged to have his teleportation device used sporadically to keep dumping smaller sized genetically manufactured squids at random locations to keep up the ruse that there was an alien race of squids who wanted Earth; having them raining down from the sky via teleportation long after he went into space as far as automating the process.
Ah, I think I missed that when I originally read it years ago, thanks. But yes, his plan isn't that dumb. Dumb, but not totally retarded.
 
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Redfordations actively fucked the majority of America for racial guilt purposes? That's worse than what E;R said it was. The KKK in this show are absolutely right to hate Black people.
It is also why the Tulsa Massacre was put into the show: the idea that non 1%er White Americans MUST be beggared and made irrevocably poor, to avenge shit like Tulsa Massacre. Under the Revanchist notion that if a middle class black neighborhood could be wiped out like that, then white people forfeit the right to ever be middle class and must be condemned to be poverty stricken cabbage farming poor fags for all eternity.

Which again, ties into (((JJ Abrams))) and (((Lindeloff))) being BFFs with a black supremacist (who is now helping Abrams blackwash Superman and wrote a garbage Captain America run where he made Red Skull into Jordan Peterson and a lengthy Black Panther run where he had Storm shit on white people and turned Wakanda into a secret century old space empire) and basing Watchmen 19 off of his "destroy whitey" political views and writings.

Why Indianapolis?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that where Mayor Pete Buttplug lives? I know that the Biden administration didn't give a shit about the baby formula shortage until Mayor Pete suddenly had issues finding it for his adopted babies.
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that where Mayor Pete Buttplug lives? I know that the Biden administration didn't give a shit about the baby formula shortage until Mayor Pete suddenly had issues finding it for his adopted babies.
Technically South Bend but I’m just splitting hairs. I’m just waiting to see if Biden gets something right or if he magically manages to find some way to fuck this up.
 
It is also why the Tulsa Massacre was put into the show: the idea that non 1%er White Americans MUST be beggared and made irrevocably poor, to avenge shit like Tulsa Massacre. Under the Revanchist notion that if a middle class black neighborhood could be wiped out like that, then white people forfeit the right to ever be middle class and must be condemned to be poverty stricken cabbage farming poor fags for all eternity.

Which again, ties into (((JJ Abrams))) and (((Lindeloff))) being BFFs with a black supremacist (who is now helping Abrams blackwash Superman and wrote a garbage Captain America run where he made Red Skull into Jordan Peterson and a lengthy Black Panther run where he had Storm shit on white people and turned Wakanda into a secret century old space empire) and basing Watchmen 19 off of his "destroy whitey" political views and writings.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that where Mayor Pete Buttplug lives? I know that the Biden administration didn't give a shit about the baby formula shortage until Mayor Pete suddenly had issues finding it for his adopted babies.
Holy shit, there should be death squads in Hollywood yesterday if these people are the ones creating our "culture".
 
А lot of the (((neocons))) have ancestors from the Ukraine and are perpetually anally ravaged first over the Tsars then about Stalin. The families of Blinken, Applebaum, the Vindmans, Kristol (his grandfather) and a massive amount of your foreign policy apparat are not just any old jews, but rarer hohol jews. Their blood hatred for the vatnik is unsated.
That’d explain a lot and why Fiddler on the Roof is popular amongst them.
Holy shit, there should be death squads in Hollywood yesterday if these people are the ones creating our "culture".
I doubt it Hollywood types were also loons unworthy of their pedestal.
 
When I read Watchmen, one of the things that stood out to me was how much more human Rorschach felt compared to everyone else.
Because he's flawed in ways we can understand. Same with The Comedian. SS is weird because who among us has to deal with being a fuck doll for the state government's war machine? Nite Owl like I said before is a dude with such high insecurity issues he can't even get it up unless he gets to beat up criminals.

Rorschach however isn't just playing pretend like the other heroes, same as The Comedian. Both of them were more than willing to kill scumbags. Neither of them are good people, but they are such a damn sight better than Manhattan, Veidt, Owl or SS since they are both willing to kill to keep in line with their morals, but don't try to rationalize the evils they do away like Veidt does in the final chapter.

Look at how Veidt is practically BEGGING Dr.Manhattan to give him validation for the three million people he just killed before he zoops off to turn Rorschach into a pile of glowing ash. You know Rorschach would never beg to get some sort of validation for the kid rapists or serial abusers he kills.
Because there IS none to find in killing bottom feeding scum like the shit Comedian and (mostly) Rorschach scraped off the shoes of society. Meanwhile, killing millions of innocents is totes "worth it" because that means the Reds won't bomb us and we won't bomb them! We just need to lie for the rest of our lives and hope nobody gets a peek behind the curtain... forever!

God, I remembered that Veidt's plan was psychopathic bullshit, but I didn't remember it was also a manchildish fucking delusion.
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Really, nigger?!
 
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