Tiffany Gowen

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I wonder if she personally feels as though her "good deed" backfired, in the sense that Chris is truly no better despite her help or just due to the unwanted online rep she has now. In a way Tiffany is a true bright spot in Chris' existence, when he was too naive to really offend anyone yet and nurturing the boy seemed acceptable and appropriate. To me it was poetic how the last interaction he had was her consoling him at graduation, because it really was Chris' biggest loss.
Pure speculation, but I'd bet that Chris wasn't the only awkward kid Tiffany had interactions with at school. Schools will always have a few nice kids who try to do the right thing when the need arises. No doubt her comforting of Chris that night was her seeing something happening and reacting in a nice way.
I doubt she's ever really given Chris a second thought since leaving high school as he's just another minor experience in her formative years.
 
@milkshark I think back in that time Chris was not so interested in getting a grill yet. He did appreciated his gal pals and just now he retroactively has upgraded them to heartsweet material.

A quote from the CWCki:

According to Chris, the genesis of the Love Quest was his twenty-first birthday, 24 February 2003. On this date, he was kicked out of his college English class after a dispute with his teacher. While waiting for his next class, Chris sat and cried his eyes out, realizing there was no one to comfort him like when he cried at his graduation. Shortly thereafter, he resolved that he needed a girlfriend.

After leaving high school and moving to another city, he lost a lot of day-to-day basic social contact. Community colleges are not usually the easiest places to meet new friends. People come, take their courses, and leave. If they hang around, it's usually with people they already know. So he had no replacement for the gal-pals.

The way he describes it, he had a moment of crisis. He wanted someone to talk to about it, and realized he had noone. That launched the sweetheart search.

It seems like there is one question that spins out of that.

Suppose he had been able to maintain a social group somehow. Maybe he stays in Richmond and goes to community college with a couple gal-pals. Maybe he meets some fellow PVCC people at the GamePlace. Maybe he joins a PVCC anime club and meets some pity acquaintances. When he gets kicked out of English class, there are a couple people to pat his ass for 10 minutes until he calms down. It was his birthday, so maybe he has some pity friends who are planning to take him to McDonald's for dinner to celebrate. None of those things are out of the realm of possibility, particularly since this was a pre-sweetheart search, less sex-obsessed, less creepy Chris.

Would he have launched the sweetheart search then, or would he have been happy just to muddle through life with some "pals" around. Think how much stuff could have been avoided.

I am not saying it is as simple as that one kicked-out-of-class moment. But the sweetheart search seems to have been launched by a sense of loneliness. Loneliness he didn't seem to feel when he was in high-school. Then the loneliness led to the sweetheart search, which led to creepiness and desperation. Which led to more loneliness. Which led to more creepiness and desperation.

It's a vicious circle that is spiralling to this day. I wonder how inevitable it was that he end up in it, or if there were a few little things that could have gone differently 10-15 years ago which would have denied us the treasure trove that is Christory.
 
After leaving high school and moving to another city, he lost a lot of day-to-day basic social contact. Community colleges are not usually the easiest places to meet new friends. People come, take their courses, and leave. If they hang around, it's usually with people they already know. So he had no replacement for the gal-pals.

The way he describes it, he had a moment of crisis. He wanted someone to talk to about it, and realized he had noone. That launched the sweetheart search.

It seems like there is one question that spins out of that.

I suppose that, if Chris had whined enough to daddy, and if old Bob had pried his wrinkly ass off the couch and stomped down to Mary Lee Walsh's office to "negotiate" (ie: threaten to sue) some "friends" for his tardling, and if Mary Lee Walsh knew some girls who would be nice to Fatty in exchange for brownie points - then it's possible the sweetheart search might never have gotten off the ground.

But, more probably, Chris would have been just as grabby with them as he was with Megan, driving even the most patient co-ed away, and wound up sobbing all alone after getting banhammered by his English teacher anyway.
 
There are quite a few similarities between Chris and Doug:
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"Chris, what you did was rape. You raped Tiffany."
HONK HONK!!!
 
After leaving high school and moving to another city, he lost a lot of day-to-day basic social contact. Community colleges are not usually the easiest places to meet new friends. People come, take their courses, and leave. If they hang around, it's usually with people they already know. So he had no replacement for the gal-pals.
All truth. The only people I have seen become friends are in the architecture/interior design department, because it's relatively small, everybody takes the same three courses the first semester, and everybody pulls all-nighters in the studio trying to get project done at the last minute.

Because of the reasons you listed, I don't really know that community college is the best option for socially marginal people like Chris (well, maybe not quite as bad as Chris). I spent one year at what was basically a community college with dorms, and one of my suite mates the first semester was one of those people. He really should have had some kind of assistance from the college to help integrate into an independent life, but I think leaving home was definitely the better option than commuting to class and going right back home

Thinking back on it now I realize he was almost certainly had some form of autism, but it was the 90's and if you had to be like Rain Man to be diagnosed. I don't remember it myself, but my mom says I told her he had a drawer full of prescription drugs, so who knows what they had him on.

"Chris, what you did was rape. You raped Tiffany."
HONK HONK!!!
When I read that quote I picture season 2 of The Real World, Beth S. telling David "you raped her!" after the Tami bed sheet incident.
 
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All truth. The only people I have seen become friends are in the architecture/interior design department, because it's relatively small, everybody takes the same three courses the first semester, and everybody pulls all-nighters in the studio trying to get project done at the last minute.

Because of the reasons you listed, I don't really know that community college is the best option for socially marginal people like Chris (well, maybe not quite as bad as Chris). I spent one year at what was basically a community college with dorms, and one of my suite mates the first semester was one of those people. He really should have had some kind of assistance from the college to help integrate into an independent life, but I think leaving home was definitely the better option than commuting to class and going right back home

Thinking back on it now I realize he was almost certainly had some form of autism, but it was the 90's and if you had to be like Rain Man to be diagnosed. I don't remember it myself, but my mom says I told her he had a drawer full of prescription drugs, so who knows what they had him on.


When I read that quote I picture season 2 of The Real World, Beth S. telling David "you raped her!" after the Tami bed sheet incident.
It's a reference to this webcomic
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    So... is Tiffany Gowen still in Virginia?

From what I know, she pretty much disappeared off the face of the Earth after high school. Chris has made attempts to find her, but to no avail.

At this point, if the real Tiffany tried to contact him, he'd probably assume that it's a troll unless she sent him a recent picture or something like that.
 
I thought this question was answered in 2013. Or jeez, i dunno, Thetan was pretending to be Sarah Bevel, who put an iron plate to his heart, or something, and she said that Tiffany knows Chris was looking for her and had made sure that doesnt happen.
 
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I thought this question was answered in 2013. Or jeez, i dunno, Thetan was pretending to be Sarah Bevel, who put an iron plate to his heart, or something, and she said that Tiffany knows Chris was looking for her and had made sure that doesnt happen.

Her authentic FB profile probably has a fake name on it, but all her real friends know it's her. Chris will never find it. There's also the possibility that she's not even on Facebook. Basically Chris has put all this significance on one of the few kind people he's met in his life long after he had the chance to show he was grateful for it, and he's unaware that the strength of that relationship (which wasn't very strong to begin with) has drastically reduced in the years he's been playing games and masturbating alone in his room.
 
At this point, if the real Tiffany tried to contact him, he'd probably assume that it's a troll unless she sent him a recent picture or something like that.

You could send him a picture of anyone pretty much. He can't tell the difference with his utter lack of facial recognition.
 
I am Tiffany Wenzel (née Gowen.) I have not stayed in contact nor will I establish contact with Chris and I no longer live in Virgina. I married my husband Tom in 2007 and have 2 kids. I work as high school special needs teacher in Washington state, where I moved in 2005. I also coach the tennis team there and have been for 7 years.

Is that lie good enough for everyone, or do I need to do an AMA in character?
 
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