Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Basic Blonde Boy]

But why? Every live action remake so far has been vastly inferiour to the original, and it's not just Disney - anime remakes like Ghost in the Shell and Cowboy Bebop sucked monkey ass too. It feels strange saying that, but I'm glad my favourite Disney movie from my childhood (Atlantis) bombed - that means that they'll just leave it alone and won't smear their greasy, greedy rat paws over it. And, luckily, there's no chance they'll remake my second favourite (Emperor's new groove), since that would be disrespectful to injuns in the current_year.

If we lived in a perfect world, instead of getting failed live action remakes for animated movies, we'd be getting animated remakes for failed live action movies. I'd watch a cartoon version of the Lone Ranger.

Agree with the last part.

I said this in the Star Wars thread, but animated Star Wars really should have been a bigger thing given that this is Disney. They even created an amazing art style for it.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

So apparently, an anon leaked screenshots from the film's production a couple of days ago.


For those wondering, no: since this is a proof-of-concept, this scene isn't in the movie, but this proof was fully animated (according to anon, the reason why Chip's re-inflating is because he got flattened by a steamroller). What's interesting is that some of the assets from this were later reused for Sweet Pete's bootlegging facility. Even more interesting is that the crew already seemed to decide very early on that Dale would be CG and Chip 2D, with the big difference being Chip being hand-drawn and in his old outfit, instead of that cel-shaded VTuber monstrosity.

I'd say they probably thought it'd be cheaper to animate them that way, but that doesn't explain the amount of effort put into the rest of the animation in the movie. Best as I could tell, only the Rescue Rangers, the "Snoopy ear" Chip gets, and Peter Pan look like that.

How much talking did Peter Pan do before getting warped into that amalgamation thing? I agree with you, I’m just curious.

Not a lot honestly. He has the one big scene where he meets Chip and Dale, a few lines when the facility gets raided, and a back-and-forth with Putty in the climax right before he gets amalgamized. Unironically, Putty - the JK Simmons Gumbi cop - gets way more lines and way more of an arc than Peter. The one time he directly refers to himself as Peter or reference anything about Peter Pan or his backstory is via flashback, and about half of the flashback is either a still image of a poster or slowed down footage of the Peter Pan movie.

To be honest, I could 100% buy that Will Arnett re-recorded his lines to be Pan-specific; there's a lot of shit in the bootlegging plot that doesn't make any sense unless you have the original Pluto leak in mind. For instance, that one scene with the bags of character parts: the MRI machine the rebootinator or whatever the fuck doesn't even use any of that for transforming toons so that shot is completely pointless. But they still left it in for whatever reason. The only times the bootlegging movies are even shown being filmed is in the climax, and even then the animation is noticeably cheap. Especially in the Aladdin portion with Pete, the CGI animals in particular look REALLY bad. There's a bit near the end where Peter's choosing a weapon to kill Chip with, and picks up the eraser he's been using the whole film...but they also casually reveal one of the weapons is The Dip from Roger Rabbit as a sight gag. Hell Pan himself aging, the entire reason he became a villain, makes no sense when none of the toons age.

That one Twitter user was absolutely right, you can feel the cuts and rewrites throughout. In a way that's not as palpable until you've seen the movie for yourself.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

It feels strange saying that, but I'm glad my favourite Disney movie from my childhood (Atlantis) bombed - that means that they'll just leave it alone and won't smear their greasy, greedy rat paws over it.

Lucky you.

 

[Introvertigo]

So apparently, an anon leaked screenshots from the film's production a couple of days ago.
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For those wondering, no: since this is a proof-of-concept, this scene isn't in the movie, but this proof was fully animated (according to anon, the reason why Chip's re-inflating is because he got flattened by a steamroller). What's interesting is that some of the assets from this were later reused for Sweet Pete's bootlegging facility. Even more interesting is that the crew already seemed to decide very early on that Dale would be CG and Chip 2D, with the big difference being Chip being hand-drawn and in his old outfit, instead of that cel-shaded VTuber monstrosity.

I'd say they probably thought it'd be cheaper to animate them that way, but that doesn't explain the amount of effort put into the rest of the animation in the movie. Best as I could tell, only the Rescue Rangers, the "Snoopy ear" Chip gets, and Peter Pan look like that.

Not a lot honestly. He has the one big scene where he meets Chip and Dale, a few lines when the facility gets raided, and a back-and-forth with Putty in the climax right before he gets amalgamized. Unironically, Putty - the JK Simmons Gumbi cop - gets way more lines and way more of an arc than Peter. The one time he directly refers to himself as Peter or reference anything about Peter Pan or his backstory is via flashback, and about half of the flashback is either a still image of a poster or slowed down footage of the Peter Pan movie.

To be honest, I could 100% buy that Will Arnett re-recorded his lines to be Pan-specific; there's a lot of shit in the bootlegging plot that doesn't make any sense unless you have the original Pluto leak in mind. For instance, that one scene with the bags of character parts: the MRI machine the rebootinator or whatever the fuck doesn't even use any of that for transforming toons so that shot is completely pointless. But they still left it in for whatever reason. The only times the bootlegging movies are even shown being filmed is in the climax, and even then the animation is noticeably cheap. Especially in the Aladdin portion with Pete, the CGI animals in particular look REALLY bad. There's a bit near the end where Peter's choosing a weapon to kill Chip with, and picks up the eraser he's been using the whole film...but they also casually reveal one of the weapons is The Dip from Roger Rabbit as a sight gag. Hell Pan himself aging, the entire reason he became a villain, makes no sense when none of the toons age.

That one Twitter user was absolutely right, you can feel the cuts and rewrites throughout. In a way that's not as palpable until you've seen the movie for yourself.

Surprisingly enough, they straight up ripped off the entire end climax of Hot Shots: Part Deux, dont believe me?

The auxillary protagonist freezes the bad guy with a fire extinguisher

Then pushes them to the ground with one finger where they shatter

Then the main antagonist faces a hybrid monster merged with a housepet

Who is about to fire a large projectile at them

But gets a huge object dropped on them at the last second

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

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Lucky you.

I feel you, my two favorite Disney movies are Wreck-It-Ralph and The Nightmare before Christmas. Ralph has a canon shitquel so I cannot even differentiate it away from the original and soon Nightmare will have a canon Tumblr Sally fanfic.

 

[GosalynGaming]

But why? Every live action remake so far has been vastly inferiour to the original, and it's not just Disney - anime remakes like Ghost in the Shell and Cowboy Bebop sucked monkey ass too. It feels strange saying that, but I'm glad my favourite Disney movie from my childhood (Atlantis) bombed - that means that they'll just leave it alone and won't smear their greasy, greedy rat paws over it. And, luckily, there's no chance they'll remake my second favourite (Emperor's new groove), since that would be disrespectful to injuns in the current_year.

If we lived in a perfect world, instead of getting failed live action remakes for animated movies, we'd be getting animated remakes for failed live action movies. I'd watch a cartoon version of the Lone Ranger.

The reason why they do these “live action“ remakes is due to brain dead consumers that think because it’s “live action” that means it’s meant for adults.

 

[Oats12345]

So apparently, an anon leaked screenshots from the film's production a couple of days ago.
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For those wondering, no: since this is a proof-of-concept, this scene isn't in the movie, but this proof was fully animated (according to anon, the reason why Chip's re-inflating is because he got flattened by a steamroller). What's interesting is that some of the assets from this were later reused for Sweet Pete's bootlegging facility. Even more interesting is that the crew already seemed to decide very early on that Dale would be CG and Chip 2D, with the big difference being Chip being hand-drawn and in his old outfit, instead of that cel-shaded VTuber monstrosity.

I'd say they probably thought it'd be cheaper to animate them that way, but that doesn't explain the amount of effort put into the rest of the animation in the movie. Best as I could tell, only the Rescue Rangers, the "Snoopy ear" Chip gets, and Peter Pan look like that.

Not a lot honestly. He has the one big scene where he meets Chip and Dale, a few lines when the facility gets raided, and a back-and-forth with Putty in the climax right before he gets amalgamized. Unironically, Putty - the JK Simmons Gumbi cop - gets way more lines and way more of an arc than Peter. The one time he directly refers to himself as Peter or reference anything about Peter Pan or his backstory is via flashback, and about half of the flashback is either a still image of a poster or slowed down footage of the Peter Pan movie.

To be honest, I could 100% buy that Will Arnett re-recorded his lines to be Pan-specific; there's a lot of shit in the bootlegging plot that doesn't make any sense unless you have the original Pluto leak in mind. For instance, that one scene with the bags of character parts: the MRI machine the rebootinator or whatever the fuck doesn't even use any of that for transforming toons so that shot is completely pointless. But they still left it in for whatever reason. The only times the bootlegging movies are even shown being filmed is in the climax, and even then the animation is noticeably cheap. Especially in the Aladdin portion with Pete, the CGI animals in particular look REALLY bad. There's a bit near the end where Peter's choosing a weapon to kill Chip with, and picks up the eraser he's been using the whole film...but they also casually reveal one of the weapons is The Dip from Roger Rabbit as a sight gag. Hell Pan himself aging, the entire reason he became a villain, makes no sense when none of the toons age.

That one Twitter user was absolutely right, you can feel the cuts and rewrites throughout. In a way that's not as palpable until you've seen the movie for yourself.

I agree there are definitely scenes that feel like foreshadowing that lead to noting. I mean the fact that Peter Pan being nickname Sweety P by his henchmen. Really doesn't fit him. It would make since if the boss really was ment to be Pluto and they just change the villain with someone else whose name starts with a P. Also the whole aging part makes no since I agree since many cartoons in the movie don't seem to have age but peter even one of the lost boys clearly haven't age despite Peter did.

Has offer as the plot leaks of Pluto being the villain are. They do make since in Context of the movie universe. Pluto being treated different than Goofy for 90 years would make since for someone to snap like that in this universe and would have a better reason for doing the bootleg staff than Peter pan reason.

I mean Pan doesn't really have a lot of scenes and I can easily see a last minute villain change just by the scenes alone.

As you noted the cheif has more scenes and dialogue than Pan. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was always ment to have his role in the movie
Don't forget the goofy ear would have made more since with the Pluto twist.

So i wouldn't be shocked with alot of what you are saying.

 

[Auntie Fester]

As someone who loved Rescue Rangers growing up, just seeing clips of this made me feel like Joshua Graham.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I was going to put this in the SMG4 Thread, but Luke and Kevin did a tribute to all Disney related material, even Kingdom Hearts.

 

[omori]

So this was posted yesterday. Lovely timing.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

View attachment 3308724So this was posted yesterday. Lovely timing.

"Man, fuck Peter Pan, he's such a fat disillusioned fuck, LOL!"
"But no guys, seriously, we love him though, please consoom product"

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

If the Peter Pan thing was a last minute change, and that 4chan leak was the original version, I’m willing to bet something will leak to prove it sooner or later. That human character also got very obviously cut out of the film too.

 

[Akumaten]

Even though Mary Poppins is my favorite film, I should have seen it coming on how Disney works.

 

[A Grey Cat]

View attachment 3308724So this was posted yesterday. Lovely timing.

Is that a drawing or a clock you can actually buy? Ngl if it's one or the other it's still a nifty piece, almost a sentimental echo of everything Pan embodies..... But then I remember that this weekend they whizzed on Bobby Driscoll's grave and didn't care on bit.

 

[Liquid Marlon]

The thing about the Chip and Dale movie is that it could have worked as a real legitimate sequel to who framed Rodger Rabbit, the last movie ended with a realistic human that turned out to be a toon so going with the Disney realistic remakes angle could actually work for a sequel.

But they forgot the one thing Rodger Rabbit had and that was heart, it had actual characters made for it and a original story tied to it, the camos were cool but they weren't the everything for the movie like how it is with Chip and Dale, something that I feel happened because I didn't create original characters for it.

Because the main focus is about what happened to these pre-established characters this makes one obviously wonder what happened to all the other pre-established characters which the cameos in Rodger Rabbit didn't do either.

I guess it's also because of other movies like Space Jam 2 why people seem to care a lot more about the cameos in the actual movie but I just feel like if they actually gave a shit about making a interesting story with interesting characters, that would be different.

Talking about giving a shit, just like Space Jam 2, they gave up on trying to merge the realities of real life and cartoons and decided to go with a lot cheaper approach which was just by making even the "drawn" toons 3D so it doesn't sell the premise as well as its predecessor which painstakingly drew every single frame and made the effort to do small but important things like making sure that the light reflected on the characters properly.

And all of this is humorously juxtaposed with what was going to be the real Roger Rabbit 2 which was a prequel and a lot more of a love story, a story of humble origins vs washed-up aimlessness.

 

[verissimus]

It feels strange saying that, but I'm glad my favourite Disney movie from my childhood (Atlantis) bombed - that means that they'll just leave it alone and won't smear their greasy, greedy rat paws over it.

Kind of funny since I've seen some pretty nice "realistic" versions of that movie which look like it would be good.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/v1Lxl3

That said, I still wouldn't trust current Disney with re-visiting that property again.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Was gonnna post tthis in the Western animation thread but i already have a post there...anyways Found this while browsing YouTube. Apparently it's the song they considered for the Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers Theme before the final one.

It's not a bad version of the song by any means but I can see why they didn't use it. 80's cartoon themes are supposed to be all energetic gets the audience psyched for the show. This sounds too slow and not as energetic as the final version. Also while all the Disney afternoon themes have some influence for the eras they were made in (eg whenever you hear the ducktales or chip and dale theme or Darkwing Duck and Goof Troop you can tell they made in the 80s/90s) Something about this theme that just....eh it firmly cements it in the 80s. The singer's voice, the sythizser, It just dates the song completely not a bad thing in and of itself but for the most part the Disney Afternoon song tried to stay somewhat timeless.

 

[Belvedere]

Was gonnna post tthis in the Western animation thread but i already have a post there...anyways Found this while browsing YouTube. Apparently it's the song they considered for the Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers Theme before the final one.

It's not a bad version of the song by any means but I can see why they didn't use it. 80's cartoon themes are supposed to be all energetic gets the audience psyched for the show. This sounds too slow and not as energetic as the final version. Also while all the Disney afternoon themes have some influence for the eras they were made in (eg whenever you hear the ducktales or chip and dale theme or Darkwing Duck and Goof Troop you can tell they made in the 80s/90s) Something about this theme that just....eh it firmly cements it in the 80s. The singer's voice, the sythizser, It just dates the song completely not a bad thing in and of itself but for the most part the Disney Afternoon song tried to stay somewhat timeless.

This song drives home what the Rescue Rangers are about, a crime fighting team that seek no reward outside of doing what is right. Imagine the kind of movie we would have gotten if it had been written by people who understood the intent of the source material instead of the cynical imbeciles that ended up writing the crossover nightmare that we got in the end.

 

[A Grey Cat]

This song drives home what the Rescue Rangers are about, a crime fighting team that seek no reward outside of doing what is right. Imagine the kind of movie we would have gotten if it had been written by people who understood the intent of the source material instead of the cynical imbeciles that ended up writing the crossover nightmare that we got in the end.

Nothing but echoes of days of future past gone by now. replaced by hollow soulless empty shell of the past that is but a pale reflection of dark and dismal future now.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

View attachment 3308724So this was posted yesterday. Lovely timing.

It’s so magical that you now have amusement park theme rides that are so expensive that not even regular, normal families can even afford to ride them and have fun. Instead, they’ve been replaced with irregular and abnormal people that don’t have any families of their own.