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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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DC are relaxed about the Chicoms because half of them are owned by the Chicoms. This is not even about Taiwan, not yet at least. This is about China clearly indicating that they're starting to pivot away from being reliant on the US, as the US is no longer a safe place to do business in.


I'd say the takeaway from that is that the US is becoming increasingly isolated from the global economy. As for western goods, well, how many of those western goods are still actually made in the west, now that the west has been cut off from cheap energy and other resources? That famed German industry is now all but dead, thanks to a lack of cheap Russian energy to fuel it.
You over-estimate the power of bribes on a legislator. They pocket them for most heed the saying of the late Carlos Hank Gonzalez that a 'poor politician is a poor politician' but any who out of some misguided sense of duty or bloodmindedness stick with an aggressive foreign power, like Gerhard Shroeder, become lepers. Any bits of money for speeches or help with loans are also a drop in the bucket compared to what the behemoth of the permanent bureaucratic state in DC, the 'Deep State' if you like, can dole out or deny from that bottomless treasure chest called US Federal spending. Contrary to what RT tells you, the US cannot and will not go bankrupt. If PRC dumped securitised US debt or similar instruments for abusive political reasons, the debt will be annulled. This sort of force majeur action wouldn't effect the credit of the US with those who count. Screeching Third Worlders don't.
 
DC are relaxed about the Chicoms because half of them are owned by the Chicoms. This is not even about Taiwan, not yet at least. This is about China clearly indicating that they're starting to pivot away from being reliant on the US, as the US is no longer a safe place to do business in.


I'd say the takeaway from that is that the US is becoming increasingly isolated from the global economy. As for western goods, well, how many of those western goods are still actually made in the west, now that the west has been cut off from cheap energy and other resources? That famed German industry is now all but dead, thanks to a lack of cheap Russian energy to fuel it.

You're acting as if the Russian economy is actually worth a wet fart, instead of being an economy so poor it makes less money than New York or California per year.

American GDP is still twice the size of China's, and almost twenty times the size of Russia's.

China is trying to cut itself off from America because rich Chinamen have been trying to get their money out of China and into places like America. Because the Chinese economy is failing at a rapid rate, and the increasing Communist fundamentalism means that the Chinese millionaires' wealth could easily be seized by the government.
 
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"I wish we could sell them another hill at that price" - Nathaniel Greene after the Battle of Bunker Hill

If Russia keeps "winning" like this they are going to "win" themselves right out of this war.

If I achieve such a victory again, I shall return to Epirus without any soldier. If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined.

DC are relaxed about the Chicoms because half of them are owned by the Chicoms. This is not even about Taiwan, not yet at least. This is about China clearly indicating that they're starting to pivot away from being reliant on the US, as the US is no longer a safe place to do business in.
Not going to lie, I’d like to see the Chinese eat their plastic dollar store shit in the dark.

Yes, it’d suck, but a lot of production is shifting away from China because of their 0 covid policy anyways. Chances are they’ll double and triple down whenever someone gets a cough instead of the reasonable thing ie just move on.

If we did go to a war, they have 0 capability of protecting the supply chains needed to feed their people, especially by sea. They wouldn’t even be able to get a skiff out of port. They wouldn’t be able to export diddly squat either. Who would they sell to? The Indians hate them more. Russia? They’re destitute. The West on the other hand is shifting production to Vietnam, Phillipines, etc.

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If China went to war with the US, I’d expect their merchant marine & fishing fleets to be in port or on the sea floor.
 
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DC are relaxed about the Chicoms because half of them are owned by the Chicoms. This is not even about Taiwan, not yet at least. This is about China clearly indicating that they're starting to pivot away from being reliant on the US, as the US is no longer a safe place to do business in.


I'd say the takeaway from that is that the US is becoming increasingly isolated from the global economy. As for western goods, well, how many of those western goods are still actually made in the west, now that the west has been cut off from cheap energy and other resources? That famed German industry is now all but dead, thanks to a lack of cheap Russian energy to fuel it.
What are they going to do? Sell US assets and sit on a pile of inflationary dollars? They can't exchange them because of Chinese currency controls. The only option left is to buy western stuff and ship it home. Ag products, aerospace, industrial equipment, machine tools, refined oil products, chemicals, plastics, ore and metals, timber products, automobiles, white goods, etc. All of it being of significantly higher quality than Chinese products.

The US is the largest economy in the world with a robust export market. You are making the assumption that cheapo low-end rubber dogshit consumer goods are the be-all-end-all of economies. It isn't. They don't have a Boeing or Caterpillar or General Electric. They have shitty knock offs that cannot replicate the US made equivalents. They imitate they do not innovate.
 
Defending Feminism to own the Russians, man i do think Ukraine deserves all Western advancements such as multiculturalism LGBT, Trannies and other western shit, nothing would be more hilarious that Ukraine getting what its so heavily fighting for.
Imagine an adult man thought this was a sound argument. No wonder you have a micropenis

Hey, what does it mean when America's biggest trading partner says it's no longer safe for them to hold assets in America? We winning yet, America bros?
Holyshit, did you just used an article from Glob Times for your argument? The Global Times, an even more blatant propaganda platform than RT?

THE Global Times???

I know you're a Russian shill man, but at least do better
 
If they say anything other than Finlandia, it's a lie.
I honestly never tried, usually the low price scares me to try.

This is the hill I die on fite me
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swill for poor people with taste of vomit included.

Imagine thinking that best vodka is Russian.

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if you haven't tried it, do, you won't fucking regret it


... it's made in Riga (not Russia) Balts make the best vodka, and I am not from there, no bias except the fucking excellence.
 
I honestly never tried, usually the low price scares me to try.



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if you haven't tried it, do, you won't fucking regret it


... it's made in Riga (not Russia) Balts make the best vodka, and I am not from there, no bias except the fucking excellence.
I have been meaning to try that one in all seriousness, my trust fund neighbor has something called Beluga vodka, its pretty good but hard to source
 
That's the whole point. That means it's the official position of the CCP.
In many cases, they more often than not just became what I call "a barking dog" of the CCP, not everything that they said is necessarily what the Party and its leaders decided on. They often get into troubles because they're sometimes too overzealous or not zealous enough with their articles, and didn't always follow what the Emperor actually want. It's said that was one of the reason Hu Xijin was forced to step down as their Chief Editor
 
Not going to lie, I’d like to see the Chinese eat their plastic dollar store shit in the dark.
I can imagine them eating the action figures that they made for the West while their food imports trickle to a minimum, mostly because they went to war with most of their food sources.

Yes, it’d suck, but a lot of production is shifting away from China because of their 0 covid policy anyways. Chances are they’ll double and triple down whenever someone gets a cough instead of the reasonable thing ie just move on.
Some companies are already moving. I saw some Transformers figures on the market, they were made in Vietnam.

If we did go to a war, they have 0 capability of protecting the supply chains needed to feed their people, especially by sea. They wouldn’t even be able to get a skiff out of port. They wouldn’t be able to export diddly squat either. Who would they sell to? The Indians hate them more. Russia? They’re destitute. The West on the other hand is shifting production to Vietnam, Phillipines, etc.
I can imagine ASEAN and American ships ambushing Chinese cargo ships at sea and confiscating all their cargo. They won't be able to win the naval war against Japan alone, and once the Americans get involved, it'll be a lopsided slaughter.

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If China went to war with the US, I’d expect their merchant marine & fishing fleets to be in port or on the sea floor.
My money's on the latter. The CCP might be stupid enough to use them to distract western navies from their military vessels, but it won't last long.
 
Imagine thinking that best vodka is Russian.
Pardon me for being the uncultured beer drinking heretic but isn't the point of vodka to distill it multiple times dumping tops and tails so that very little is left except water and alcohol? How are you people going "mmmm yes I can taste the flag of the country this was made in. it is superior than the other flag tastes. most delicious."? It's grain alcohol fire water. What more is there to taste?
 
Pardon me for being the uncultured beer drinking heretic but isn't the point of vodka to distill it multiple times dumping tops and tails so that very little is left except water and alcohol? How are you people going "mmmm yes I can taste the flag of the country this was made in. it is superior than the other flag tastes. most delicious."? It's grain alcohol fire water. What more is there to taste?
Well, in Russia itself there's a non-zero chance of getting counterfeit vodka that would kill you, dunno if that applies to export.
Mmm methanol. The taste of ekzzelence.
 
Saviors of the white race right there. I think "Ork" should become an official designation when it comes to these supposedly huwite Russians, as opposed to "Slav".
Dude on the left looks like a fucking pelmen.
"Can we not take counsel together as we once did, my fellow Slav? Can we not have peace, you and I?"
"We shall have peace. We shall have peace when you answer for the burning of Mariupol, and the children that lie dead there! We shall peace when the bodies of the soldiers who were raped even as they lay dead against the gates to the Avozstal are avenged! When you hang in the stocks for the sport of you own soldiers, we shall have peace."
You over-estimate the power of bribes on a legislator. They pocket them for most heed the saying of the late Carlos Hank Gonzalez that a 'poor politician is a poor politician' but any who out of some misguided sense of duty or bloodmindedness stick with an aggressive foreign power, like Gerhard Shroeder, become lepers. Any bits of money for speeches or help with loans are also a drop in the bucket compared to what the behemoth of the permanent bureaucratic state in DC, the 'Deep State' if you like, can dole out or deny from that bottomless treasure chest called US Federal spending. Contrary to what RT tells you, the US cannot and will not go bankrupt. If PRC dumped securitised US debt or similar instruments for abusive political reasons, the debt will be annulled. This sort of force majeur action wouldn't effect the credit of the US with those who count. Screeching Third Worlders don't.
I'd also add that politicians are rarely bought but always available for rent. And like rental contracts, there's always negotiating room, exemptions, wiggle room to squeeze out, etc. The minute the money dries up or the situation changes to where supporting China isn't worth what they're getting paid, they're going to drop China like a hot potato.
I honestly never tried, usually the low price scares me to try.
Ironically, I've heard very good things about the bitch-basic Kirkland store brand vodka at Costco. Not the best, but amazing for its price.
 
Pardon me for being the uncultured beer drinking heretic but isn't the point of vodka to distill it multiple times dumping tops and tails so that very little is left except water and alcohol? How are you people going "mmmm yes I can taste the flag of the country this was made in. it is superior than the other flag tastes. most delicious."? It's grain alcohol fire water. What more is there to taste?

Technically vodka must be tasteless, it provides alcohol, not taste for fruity cocktails and such, but it's not, because getting rid of subtle hints of taste is very hard. Kind of like you can taste water and tell where it came from despite minute concentrations of chemicals in it. Kind of like vanilla ice cream can have hundreds of variations. Not everyone cares, an alcoholic will pick the cheapest swill or drink anything that contains alcohol, and cheapest vodka is just one of easiest of alco drinks to make.

Vodka goes well with good food, it gives you a shot of euphoria without overwhelming the flavor of the food itself, so you don't need to pair it with anything. It interacts with taste buds directly, indirectly and even its vapor rising up from your stomach. The location of your tastebuds plays role on what you are tasting as well, so it's a pretty practical drink to enjoy.
 
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