Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[biozeminadae1]

And? So you are fully in support of replacing one plate of shit with another just because you don't quite like the rainbow colored shit and prefer the HIV infected TB encrusted plate of shit. Let me ask you a question, when has Russia ever been a good country? These are people whose "great" leader was a guy who just copied a bunch of shit from France and taxed peoples beards because he realized everyone else laughed at them because the entire population looked like homeless people.

It's not about Russia for me, it's about how many options for survival does my own country have. The current status quo doesn't seat well with me and I would prefer it if my nation-state has alternatives. The facetious over-generalisation of Russia's historic destiny is not warranted, when the West has tried its best to bar Russia from trading with it and other parts of the World (Great Game).

And if both plates are filled with shit - what's your problem, to you they're not replacing anything.

 

[biozeminadae1]

"Damn dude, my neighbor is trying to date some guy I really hate, better break into her house and kill her!" really makes a good case for Russia being sane. Because if someone is your neighbor you get to decide what kind of groups they associate with.

A country's might dictates it, just how America dictates the policies of most Latin American countries.

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I don't understand what the big deal is - Ukraine is a contested area between traditional Russian interests in the region and newly arrived Western ones. The best thing Ukraine can do is to surrender, it's not like their country is going to improve by siding with the West, it will still be a shithole for decades to come.

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You just can't comprehend brilliance and 6D chess of Putin. He attacked Ukraine, because then Russia would have longer border with NATO. That resulted in Finland and Sweden joining NATO, increasing it's border with Russian tenfold.

Trully, yet another win for russian school of diplomacy!

nope, not a part of NATO.
Surprisingly, Russians don't want their European heartland threatened in any way by a Bloc that seeks to destroy it.

 

[Titos]

It's not about Russia for me, it's about how many options for survival does my own country have. The current status quo doesn't seat well with me and I would prefer it if my nation-state has alternatives. The facetious over-generalisation of Russia's historic destiny is not warranted, when the West has tried its best to bar Russia from trading with it and other parts of the World (Great Game).

And if both plates are filled with shit - what's your problem, to you they're not replacing anything.

I'd rather not eat either. So when someone says to go to their restaurant instead of the other guys, and I go there and it tastes just the same if not worse I'm not going to defend them blowing up shit just to try to prove their turd is superior. Answer the question, when has Russia ever been a good country? This is about Russia for me, not because I give a shit about Ukraine, but because Russia should have been smashed into a dozen different smaller countries after the collapse of the USSR as punishment for all the faggotry the USSR inflicted on the world. Idiots like to pretend Russia is against all the degeneracy of the west, who the fuck do you think helped infect everything in the west to intentionally spread degeneracy? Couldn't have possibly been Russia.

 

[White_N]

"Damn dude, my neighbor is trying to date some guy I really hate, better break into her house and kill her!" really makes a good case for Russia being sane. Because if someone is your neighbor you get to decide what kind of groups they associate with.

The world's powers are insane, but it's considered normal.

 

[biozeminadae1]

I'd rather not eat either. So when someone says to go to their restaurant instead of the other guys, and I go there and it tastes just the same if not worse I'm not going to defend them blowing up shit just to try to prove their turd is superior. Answer the question, when has Russia ever been a good country?

I don't owe you an answer. At least make the question more concrete. Good how? In what way? A high standard of living? Being morally righteous?

This is about Russia for me, not because I give a shit about Ukraine, but because Russia should have been smashed into a dozen different smaller countries after the collapse of the USSR as punishment for all the faggotry the USSR inflicted on the world. Idiots like to pretend Russia is against all the degeneracy of the west, who the fuck do you think helped infect everything in the west to intentionally spread degeneracy? Couldn't have possibly been Russia.
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The West invented communism, the West invented modern liberalism, the West promotes neo-colonialism while allowing the flourishment of White guilt and multiculturalism. To put the blame on the USSR, whose people, ironically, lived in a more "traditional" patriarchal society than the West, is ridiculous.

 

[UVB-76]

I don't believe anyone who isn't a z-tard would try to propagate the idea that Russia is oppressive and authoritative. That isn't what this is about though, it's about being disgustingly gaslit into believing that Ukraine is marginally better.

It is more than just marginally better.
Russia is watching the war from TV while Ukrainians are living it. Different standards apply.

Their platform was deliberately eliminated and fragmented so that even if they tried to rebrand they would have to build from the ground up. Don't be disingenuous.

Are we actually simping for political parties now? Oh now, they have to throw out all of the old logos and flags.
The people are the same, the money is the same, the connections are the same. It's only the facade that changes. Give me a break. I don't give a shit about people in suits and who probably never worked a real job in their lives having to face such a small inconvinience.

There isn't a bigger sign of purging than officially banning entire political parties, not your short-sighted conjectures. Nice slippery slope.

Yeah, there are. Such as lining people against the wall and shooting them.
I think you are perhaps unfamiliar with history if you think this is a purge.

Prove me wrong.
McCarthy was looking for spies. The spies existed and were feeding the Soviet Union with intel.
Now people use "McCarthyism" as a synonym for the red scare or as a shorthand for political "cancelling" but McCarthy wasn't even wrong.

Are we even talking about the same thing here? The political parties in Ukraine aren't apart of the Russian armed forces

But they represent the political force that wanted a closer relationship with Russia, which is now a nation at war with Ukraine.

That is nearly 3 million voting aged citizens. Do you really think unimpeded dissolvement of the political dissidents of which a substantial proportion voted for in 2019 is inconsequential, or are you just dense?

And 5 million citizens had to flee the country as a result of Russia's actions. There's maybe even overlap there. If you voted for the party that was pro-Russia and your home got bombed and now you're living in Poland or Germany do you actually give that much of a shit that your political party had to be reformed? You don't even know when you'll be back, or even if you want to go back.

 

[Titos]

I don't owe you an answer. At least make the question more concrete. Good how? In what way? A high standard of living? Being morally righteous?

The West invented communism, the West invented modern liberalism, the West promotes neo-colonialism while allowing the flourishment of White guilt and multiculturalism. To put the blame on the USSR, whose people, ironically, lived in a more "traditional" patriarchal society than the West, is ridiculous.

And yet nobody in the west was dumb enough to take that faggot Marx seriously, the Russians sure as shit were though. Funny how none of that "White guilt" and other faggotry really existed in places like the US before a certain Union started infiltrating all the media, education, and government of the US. Nothing says "based" like subverting other cultures to be degenerate then whining about them being degenerate. OY VEY WHY IS THE GOLEM I CREATED ATTACKING ME?

 

[biozeminadae1]

And yet nobody in the west was dumb enough to take that faggot Marx seriously, the Russians sure as shit were though. Funny how none of that "White guilt" and other faggotry really existed in places like the US before a certain Union started infiltrating all the media, education, and government of the US. Nothing says "based" like subverting other cultures to be degenerate then whining about them being degenerate. OY VEY WHY IS THE GOLEM I CREATED ATTACKING ME?

I'm sorry, but the moral depravity of the West is not due to the Soviet Union. Even if the overblown subversion was caused by Soviet infiltration of your institutions, that could have only been possible if people within your realm wanted to change the core values of the nations of the Free World. There's also the fact that none of the peoples of the former Soviet Empire exhibit traits prescribed by the Soviet subversion.

That faggot Marx is taken seriously by the West now.

 

[Captain Wetbeard]

The world's powers are insane, but it's considered normal.
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Governments are just the largest form of street gang. Consider that a red hat nigger sees his neighbor having a bunch of well armed blue hat niggers hanging out at his house. How much of a stretch is it that the red hat nigger chimps out and shoots up the place?

 

[DumbDude42]

There's also the fact that none of the peoples of the former Soviet Empire exhibit traits prescribed by the Soviet subversion.

of course not, because they didn't apply the type of hostile subversion at their own people that they did to their enemies, cause why the fuck would they do that lol

either way, westoids and commie fucks blaming each other for marxism is pointless and redundant because at the end of the day in both west and east it was the jews who were (and still are) the primary propagators and agitators behind the rise of marxism. the protocols were right about almost everything.

 

[UVB-76]

>im ngl im really disappointed how we're fighting this
>we should have gone dirlegang (reference to the Dirlewagner Brigade of the Waffen SS) twenty times over now

>they had the right ideas but executed them in the completely wrong order, and wrong way
>in a way though, the war being dragged out will work for the better. they're trying to fucking drown us in blood, which just means that the most soy, most zog-serving wignat, most gay Ukrainians will all auto-eject from the genepool and populace and only true comrades in the white struggle will live.

Denazification, everyone.

>we pulled out of the north because local mayors jewed us
>they promised they flipped to us but started raising territorial defence units in our rear
>so if we stayed we'd have gotten encircled
>the pullouts are humiliating but strategically correct decisions rather than staying in still like the ukrops in mariupol who are now surrendering in the thousands

>Russian intelligence objectively failed in the preparation before the invasion of making sure the people who said they'd flip would actually flip.
>Putin paid the Jew mayor of Odessa a bunch of money to switch sides but instead of doing that he just pocketed the money and kept as is. He was a literal mafioso though so I don't know how they were retarded enough to trust him.

Okay, that is hilarious.

I'm sorry, but the moral depravity of the West is not due to the Soviet Union. Even if the overblown subversion was caused by Soviet infiltration of your institutions, that could have only been possible if people within your realm wanted to change the core values of the nations of the Free World.

People don't want to change the core values of their nation until told they have to do it by college professors, media, etc.

 

[Titos]

I'm sorry, but the moral depravity of the West is not due to the Soviet Union. Even if the overblown subversion was caused by Soviet infiltration of your institutions, that could have only been possible if people within your realm wanted to change the core values of the nations of the Free World. There's also the fact that none of the peoples of the former Soviet Empire exhibit traits prescribed by the Soviet subversion.

That faggot Marx is taken seriously by the West now.

Wow, you got this all figured out don't you. Because if a country is subverting other countries it must be a fact that the people doing the subverting must also already be subverted. Just like if someone is shooting people they must also have already been shot themselves. Big brain.

 

[Elbereth]

I don't owe you an answer. At least make the question more concrete. Good how? In what way? A high standard of living? Being morally righteous?

The West invented communism, the West invented modern liberalism, the West promotes neo-colonialism while allowing the flourishment of White guilt and multiculturalism. To put the blame on the USSR, whose people, ironically, lived in a more "traditional" patriarchal society than the West, is ridiculous.

You really act like soviets didn't played up racial tensions during cold war. Here, have some look at old propaganda posters!

 

[biozeminadae1]

of course not, because they didn't apply the type of hostile subversion at their own people that they did to their enemies, cause why the fuck would they do that lol

What do you mean "their own people"? Communism calls for all men to be the same, so they would have applied the same shit to the nations the Soviets directly controlled.

either way, westoids and commie fucks blaming each other for marxism is pointless and redundant because at the end of the day in both west and east it was the jews who were (and still are) the primary propagators and agitators behind the rise of marxism. the protocols were right about almost everything.

You can't exactly kill off the Jews now, unfortunately Hitler failed hard, he only went 1/3rd of the way.

People don't want to change the core values of their nation until told they have to do it by college professors, media, etc.

didn't knew core values were so easily changed, I guess power is everything

Wow, you got this all figured out don't you. Because if a country is subverting other countries it must be a fact that the people doing the subverting must also already be subverted. Just like if someone is shooting people they must also have already been shot themselves. Big brain.

If the subversion were as effective as you say, we would see it among the populations of former Soviet satellite states like Bulgaria. But the only faggotry espoused by Bulgarians is that which pro-Western scum promote.

 

[Ward]

"Damn dude, my neighbor is trying to date some guy I really hate, better break into her house and kill her!"

Why are you fags oversimplify geopolitics by comparing a nuanced conflict that already has consequences on the global scale to "bully vs a nerd" or "my girlfriend dumped me so now I must murder her"? If everything was that easy, then democracy would actually work.

 

[biozeminadae1]

You really act like soviets didn't played up racial tensions during cold war. Here, have some look at old propaganda posters!
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Of course, communism is for everyone, after all. A utopian state where all races are equal, regardless of culture, because all culture belongs to everyone. Regardless of preference, because everyone is equally worthy and beautiful, etc.

A lot of Africa supports Russia to this day, lmao, the retards.

 

[DumbDude42]

What do you mean "their own people"? Communism calls for all men to be the same, so they would have applied the same shit to the nations the Soviets directly controlled.

the soviet message to westerners was "your society is evil and backwards, you must dismantle and destroy it for the greater good"
meanwhile the soviet message to soviet population was "your society is great and just, you must support and defend it for the greater good"

 

[Titos]

If the subversion were as effective as you say, we would see it among the populations of former Soviet satellite states like Bulgaria. But the only faggotry espoused by Bulgarians is that which pro-Western scum promote.

Again, if someone poisons you, that doesn't mean that they already poisoned themselves. Ideological weapons are not something that you need to introduce to your own population before you use it on an enemy dumbass.

 

[biozeminadae1]

the soviet message to westerners was "your society is evil and backwards, you must dismantle and destroy it for the greater good"
meanwhile the soviet message to soviet population was "your society is great and just, you must support and defend it for the greater good"

So? I'm failing to see your point. Every country does that. Because the Soviets wanted "their" people to defend Soviet territories they weren't put under subversion? Sounds unlikely.

Again, if someone poisons you, that doesn't mean that they already poisoned themselves. Ideological weapons are not something that you need to introduce to your own population before you use it on an enemy dumbass.

So what stopped them from introducing them and promoting them at the same time?

 

[Titos]

Why are you fags oversimplify geopolitics by comparing a nuanced conflict that already has consequences on the global scale to "bully vs a nerd" or "my girlfriend dumped me so now I must murder her"? If everything was that easy, then democracy would actually work.

Not really an oversimplification when that's how Russia has acted throughout its entire existence. This is a "people" who got their start fucking over their neighbors.