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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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MK ULTRA was a failed, American research program that was really just an excuse for a bunch of CIA spooks to take drugs

It has been estimated, that the USSR has spent over a billion USD to develop ESP/clairvoyance/mind-control techniques. Or do you think that Eltsin had a "paranormal" FSB spook attached to him because everyone just went batshit crazy after the Union fell? Apparently, the "research" continued well into the Putin era.

And don't get me started on Putin being a kabbalist.

Every time these inbreds project, they project their own shit unto others.
 
MK ULTRA was a failed, American research program that was really just an excuse for a bunch of CIA spooks to take drugs. I'm not American.

Ukraine had lost over a third of its territory a month ago. Now it's a quarter. :story:
So what, Crimea isn't considered Ukrainian territory? LOL

If not MKULTRA, what was it that made you so retarded and gullible? Everyone used boobytrapped ammunition since at least WW2.
 
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Ah yes, that well know explosive, silicon dioxide. It's no wonder people hate sand. It's coarse and gritty, and it explodes everywhere.
Hohol expects to find ammo, but instead finds sand. Not as funny as hohol losing both arms, but still funny. Now come on, tell me more about how Russia has no ammo, no missiles, and no fuel left.
 
Hohol expects to find ammo, but instead finds sand. Not as funny as hohol losing both arms, but still funny. Now come on, tell me more about how Russia has no ammo, no missiles, and no fuel left.
They're no longer allowing commercial airlines to refuel on their airports, meaning that they're running low on aviation fuel.
 
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I see some Ziggers are confused about fractions. It is most assuredly certain that Ukraine did not lose one third of anything. Russia has certainly lost far, far more than a third of its matériel it originally committed to the war. Russia has barely advanced in the Donbas, take a village, lose a village. Now in one of those offensives they cut the main road, although there is another to Lysychansk

Denys Davydov, a 737 pilot (I think I found him pre-war with some pilot vlog) discusses concerning, but overall minor in the scheme of things, happenings.


It's basically a bit of recently taken land extending from the corridor taken early in this war, linking the two territories illegally in 2014, Crimea and a portion of Donbas. The Deepstate.live map link shows this effort to cut off Lysychansk.

Two Tatars on their efforts to support the liberation of Ukraine from the Russian dictator. Yet what utterly fires them is the hope of freeing their homeland of Crimea, itself seized from a Tatar ruler by the German Tzarina Catherine 'the Great' and more recently taken again in 2014, after Ukraine had finally gained independence. These men are the Crimean Battalion and it a fine thing to see the Crimean symbol of their unit patches.


Russia won't run out of fuel, although spare parts will have to be gone for crude oil and refining operations. What they most definitely lack are aircraft spares. This will ground all those stolen lease aircraft. PRC is not remotely capable of supplying any spares shortfall and actually they keep on the right side of sanctions measures from DC and Europe. They blundered in trying to copy the SU-33, a would-be carrier craft that kept going on fire. The Russkies don't have any sort of air superiority. Ukrainian MI-24 Hind helicopters and Mig-29s still fly and ground troops have plenty of success in shooting down vatnik aircraft. The Bayraktar TB2 has shot down ten helicopters.

The Hellenic Armed Forces are quite sizeable (their navy would be more noteworthy), but somewhat underfunded for their mission, but the understandable given history with Turkey, whether Cyprus and recent disputes over small islands,. Now they are now providing aid to Ukraine. One notable help is they have sizeable stocks of eastern bloc equipment for which Ukrainians need far less training.

What they provided was:

20.000 Kalashnikov assault rifles, 815 RPG-18 disposable rocket launchers and an undisclosed number of 122mm unguided rockets.
but so far they are not sending any of their 'huge arsenal' of 'S-300PMU-1, Tor-M1 and 9K33 Osa SAM systems in addition to multiple rocket launchers (MRLs), armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs)'.
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By now, nearly all EU and NATO member countries have provided varying degrees of military support to aid Ukraine in its fight against the Russian Army. While the transfer of a S-300PMU SAM battery by Slovakia and the supply of Javelin and NLAW ATGMs by the U.S. and UK have garnered much public attention, many more countries have contributed in their own respective ways. One of these countries is Greece, which pledged to provide military aid to Ukraine as early as February 27. [1] This consisted of 20.000 Kalashnikov assault rifles, 815 RPG-18 disposable rocket launchers and an undisclosed number of 122mm unguided rockets. [1] At least two plane loads worth of armament and munitions were dispatched to Ukraine shortly thereafter, where this armament is currently used in action against Russian forces. [2]

Since then, Greece has been mentioned as a possible source for additional weapons systems on numerous occasions. Most notably, Greece operates a vast arsenal of Soviet-made weaponry, with which Ukrainian forces are already familiar (contrary to most Western types of armament currently being delivered). This includes S-300PMU-1, Tor-M1 and 9K33 Osa SAM systems in addition to multiple rocket launchers (MRLs), armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs) and other equipment. It is certain that the U.S. for this reason looked at Greece as a potential source for Soviet-made armament that could directly enter service, with similar efforts undertaken with Cyprus for the supply of Buk-M1 and Tor-M1 SAM systems. [3] Nonetheless, in early April the Greek government formally rejected the supply of such equipment on the grounds that it would not compromise its own defence capabilities, later confirming that it had no plans of sending additional military equipment to Ukraine. [4] [5]

Although the Greek government's statements are sure to have been disappointing for Ukraine, which has little other opportunities to acquire longer-ranged SAM systems like the Tor and Buk, the supply of advanced armament like Osa and Tor-M1 could seriously weaken Greece's posture against Turkey. While the U.S. has promised to compensate countries if they decide on supplying high-grade equipment to Ukraine, or temporarily deploy U.S. systems to that country, few Western systems exist that could suitably replace the ones currently in use with Greece. The Hellenic Armed Forces would likely otherwise be unable to procure replacement systems due to its limited funding, and the delivery of replacement systems by the U.S. can be expected to trigger fierce objection from Turkey.

While Greece is the only NATO country to operate the Tor, Poland, Bulgaria and Romania all operate significant numbers of 9K33 Osa systems, and therefore represent more sensible sources of such armament, with the S-300PMU-1 in particular constituting one of Greece's most prized assets (at least on paper). Greece's S-300PMU-1s, which it took over from Cyprus as a result of the Cypriot Missile Crisis in the late-1990s, are towed by KrAZ-260B semi-trailer trucks as opposed to the heavier tracked vehicles or MAZ-543M trucks often associated with the S-300. For the PMU-1's radar systems alone, deployment can therefore take up to two hours, significantly reducing its tactical mobility and exposing the systems to Russian UAVs that can direct ground-based munitions at their deployment location. Ukraine already found this out the hard way, losing 12 5P851A semi-trailer launchers (used with the S-300PT SAM system) during the first days of the war. [6]
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#Ukraine: Tachankas of the Ukrainian army - a Maxim M1910/30 7.62x54R machine gun installed on a Soviet LuAZ-969 amphibious vehicle and operated by the Territorial Defense of #Zaporizhzhia. TDF units are usually badly mechanized, so this is a way to increase firepower.
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In this war of drones it is still good these Zaporizhzhian territorials (where one of the most notable Cossack formations once operated, tho they handed over Ukraine to the Tsar having seized land from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) keep up the old traditions, including good beards and a likely well oiled maxim gun.

Pillar Catholic talks on the present troubles of the UOC-MP which has seen defections to the new Kyiv Patriarchate, but as this was a project of Petro Poroshenko, former president, whom Zelenskiy is said to dislike intensely, the Ukraine Ortho Moscow Patriarchate bishops are taking care to focus mostly on Poroschenko and less on Patriarch Kirill and his Russkiy-mir language. It's fascinating.
 
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Hohol expects to find ammo, but instead finds sand. Not as funny as hohol losing both arms, but still funny. Now come on, tell me more about how Russia has no ammo, no missiles, and no fuel left.

a bunch of rusia DVD bros died (proly 'cause can't shoot send) to make it realistic and shit. Funny indeed that RF soldier's lives are that cheap just to make joke for hohols. Tell rusia bros to make more jokes like that.

that ammo was stolen long ago, about time when you can buy 5.45 at less than 22LR. I have a few tins, I know people who bought hundreds of crates. Why do you think 5.45 barrels became so popular in US? Stronk leaders like Putin sold anything they could lay their hands on, pack boxes in storage with sand and put a checkmark next to ammo reserves.
 
Two of the most powerful guys there want to kill each other.
Bunch of paper tigers. PRC is easily dealt with as they are utterly reliant on imports of energy and food. Bolsonaro could well be losing to Lula the former jailbird who's every more pro-Putin than the somewhat Putin leaning incumbent.



No matter what the Russian state does, there is always someone who says: let's take its interests into account. This year in Davos it was heard again. Despite thousands of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine. Despite tens of thousands of Ukrainians killed. Despite Bucha and Mariupol, etc. Despite the destroyed cities. And despite the "filtration camps" built by the Russian state, in which they kill, torture, rape and humiliate like on a conveyor belt. Russia has done all this in Europe.
But still in Davos, for example, Mr. Kissinger emerges from the deep past and says that a piece of Ukraine should be given to Russia. So that there is no alienation of Russia from Europe.
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Henry Kissinger is a good expert in helping a superpower suffer epoch making humiliation. Pres Zelenskiy is right to be annoyed by bad advice from that old corpse. Says his calendar is in 1938. It's a bit like those old security experts and Kremlinologists who vastly over-estimated Soviet capabilities.
 
I'm surprised people are this clueless https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cs...detain-hundreds-who-had-nothing-to-do-with-it

And much more prominent case, I almost joined ultranationalist movement due to these events:
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TL;DR is that police covers up such crimes, either to avoid retribution from mountain nigger diaspora, due to corruption or to hide the fact that there are ethnic tensions. Depends on the case. But it has always been a problem.

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tl;dr: There was a race riot and only migrants were arrested. Russian rioters weren't.

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ResultThe riots were quelled, with some members receiving prison sentences. The murderer of Yegor Sviridov was sentenced to 20.5 years.

So basically you just proved my point. Muslims are being policed.

Yeah, there was a bit of a struggle on the second one, but no one said it'd be easy.

Offtopic: So how did you transition from a Russian ultranationalist to a pro-Ukraine traitor? Binge-watching NFKRZ videos?

Moslems dwell throughout Russia, Tatarstan, Chechnya and other places mainly in the Russian far east they have done for centuries. That's fine, but they certainly count and are far likelier to follow their faith than the Patriarchate of Moscow Orthodox and have a higher birthrate than European Russians who are likelier to leave anyhow. Perhaps more relevantly, Russia prior to this present war had a notable trend where the well educated left (rather than at best being a poor flunky of state official or a low cost worker in some foreign company) and they were replaced by poor Central Asian casual laborer migrants. These now find themselves pressed into the Putin war as their ID papers certainly aren't in order. Russian policing is certainly harsh on the poor and ill connected, but that's hardly much better than your rather stereotyped generalization for Europe.

Ever heard of this?

 
Dear Lord. When I said that they will be using T-62s before too long I meant it as a joke. I didn't intend it to be the reality in three months.

What strange meme power is this? It's like if you just set the bar lower even in jest they somehow manage to go under it. And how long before we see them equipping berdan rifles?
Who fucking knows?
Lol, more pathetic w*stoid cope. Guess this is what the bongs looked like when their empire collapsed and got reduced to a tiny island full of inbred yokels with shit teeth.
A tiny island that can somehow keep multiple aircraft carriers working. Cope harder.
Ivan Jones snatched the ammo and replaced it with sand, no alarms are triggered if the weight checks out.

Gotta wonder where the contents are right now, some soldat probably made quite a few rubles with this one simple trick.
I wonder how much Russian-made 5.45 has wound up in Ukrainian hands because of stuff like that. Easy enough to have spies or third parties buy the ammo and then arrange for it to be shipped into Ukraine. Christ, to think the USA was terrified of these people flooding through Fulda when a couple pairs of Levi jeans and a Barbie doll would see a quartermaster sign over half his inventory on the spot.
 
Yes, and it's funny that people who think that Russia will save Europe from being overrun by brown men, can't see that Russia is also increasingly becoming an Asian man's country.

By the end of this war, Russia will become Northern China. Hey, they already have a good hold on Siberia. It won't be long before Moscow has to slip back into its traditional role of being a vassal of an Asiatic power.

Bunch of paper tigers. PRC is easily dealt with as they are utterly reliant on imports of energy and food. Bolsonaro could well be losing to Lula the former jailbird who's every more pro-Putin than the somewhat Putin leaning incumbent.
That's what they always were: paper tigers that wouldn't survive getting cut off from the West. If Beijing were to cut off the import economy with America, and the Chinese economy falls flat like a tofu-dreg skyscraper getting knocked down by the wind.

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Henry Kissinger is a good expert in helping a superpower suffer epoch making humiliation. Pres Zelenskiy is right to be annoyed by bad advice from that old corpse. Says his calendar is in 1938. It's a bit like those old security experts and Kremlinologists who vastly over-estimated Soviet capabilities.
That whole discipline of people who studied the Soviets modern Russia as their academic calling really overestimated the kind of damage the Kremlin could do. Especially when the demographic decline has not been kind to Russia, and many of their soldiers have always been poorly-trained levies that would get their brains blown out if they fought against motivated farmers with guns.
 
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I assume he might be a migrant somewhere in Germany or some other European country, if not somewhere else in the West.

He's an American who saw a pond full of easily trollable fish and you've all been clamoring for his bait ever since. He just intentionally writes stuff he knows is going to piss you off with just the thinnest veneer of plausibility so that you keep shitting the thread up by engaging. Pages and pages of cold war dick measuring contests instead of news discussion because none of you learned basic internet shit when you were teenagers and can't spot an obvious troll when they're being obvious.

He's not an actual Russian agent, for Chrissake, he's a basic bitch troll.
 
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tl;dr: There was a race riot and only migrants were arrested. Russian rioters weren't.

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So basically you just proved my point. Muslims are being policed.

Yeah, there was a bit of a struggle on the second one, but no one said it'd be easy.

Offtopic: So how did you transition from a Russian ultranationalist to a pro-Ukraine traitor? Binge-watching NFKRZ videos?



Ever heard of this?

LMAO do you really think you've got an "own" on me by combing through the wiki articles, after all but admitting you had no idea these things even happened?
These riots led to prominent Russian nationalists becoming political prisoners, with Putin going hard after nationalist parties and activists.

You really have no idea, the Russia you believe in only exists in your head.

Muh ruble stabilized, yet I'm listening to vatniks in my office cry that prices keep rising. Economy is good though!
As for how I got away from ultranationalism after briefly coming in contact with it, it was like a vaccine against ideological possession - I ended up being smarter than that. I wish you the same.
 
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LMAO do you really think you've got an "own" on me by combing through the wiki articles, after all but admitting you had no idea these things even happened?
These riots led to prominent Russian nationalists becoming political prisoners, with Putin going hard after nationalist parties and activists.

You really have no idea, the Russia you believe in only exists in your head.

Muh ruble stabilized, yet I'm listening to vatniks in my office cry that prices keep rising. Economy is good though!
As for how I got away from ultranationalism after briefly coming in contact with it, it was like a vaccine against ideological possession - I ended up being smarter than that. I wish you the same.

You're confusing your own arguments - first you were saying that muslim crime was tolerated by the police because... reasons... and then you shifted to condemning Putin and the Russian government for arresting nationalists.

Nationalist rioted, some of them were arrested, but in the end the muzzie in question was re-arrested and sentenced to 20 years in prison for murder. It set a precedent that these sort of crimes by certain religions/nationalities will not be tolerated by the population.

Also, you didn't need to become a quisling to renounce extremism, y'know?
 
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LMAO do you really think you've got an "own" on me by combing through the wiki articles, after all but admitting you had no idea these things even happened?
These riots led to prominent Russian nationalists becoming political prisoners, with Putin going hard after nationalist parties and activists.

You really have no idea, the Russia you believe in only exists in your head.
They see a stable Christian empire that will save them from the manipulations of the godless Bolshevik Jews, even though modern Russia simps for the USSR and doesn't seek to serve anyone but its own upper class.

Muh ruble stabilized, yet I'm listening to vatniks in my office cry that prices keep rising. Economy is good though!
As for how I got away from ultranationalism after briefly coming in contact with it, it was like a vaccine against ideological possession - I ended up being smarter than that. I wish you the same.
The best vaccine against Russiaboo idiocy is experiencing Russia firsthand.

You're confusing your own arguments - first you were saying that muslim crime was tolerated by the police because... reasons... and then you shifted to condemning Putin and the Russian government for arresting nationalists.

Nationalist rioted, some of them were arrested, but in the end the muzzie in question was re-arrested and sentenced to 20 years in prison for murder. It set a precedent that these sort of crimes by certain religions/nationalities will not be tolerated by the population.
They will once those populations outnumber the ethnic Russians. White Russian Christians are dying by the bucketloads thanks to your beloved pseudo-Tsar. I hesitate to call Putin a real Tsar because aside from the fact that he didn't have the balls to crown himself, he also chimps out against the international community for the stupidest things, whereas the Tsars, for all their repressive actions towards their own people, still cooperated with international powers and were still respected instead of loathed by the rest of Europe. They were tyrants that you can do business with, unlike the Soviets and their modern successors.

Also, you didn't need to become a quisling to renounce extremism, y'now?
Why not? Germans who renounced Nazism became traitors in the eyes of their own country.
 
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