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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Russia and Ukraine are both fictitious meme countries. Everyone knows they're both integral Mongol territories

Wh*te devils will again learn to bow before the sons of the great Khan
Considering some of the "Russian" troops we've seen that's already happening... RiP to that tank biathlete. His ancestors are smiling at him for dying a violent death in the saddle like all true Mongolians should.
 
You will never be a superpower. You have no modern army, you have no industrial base, you have no force projection. You are a kleptocracy twisted by oil money into a crude mockery of a functional country.....................
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Russia survived it in the 90's, but America never had a crash that bad, at least not since the Great Depression. Ngl, will be interesting to see how burgers react.
Weren't there people eaten by homeless in Russia in the 90's?

I'm not sure a country that's gotten used to having McDonald's is going to be able to handle a return to that sort of lifestyle.
 
It's different - Russia actually polices its Muslim populations, so even if what you said is true, there wouldn't be much of a problem for the rest of the country. And they would be mostly relegated to the territories that they've been living on for centuries - even before the Russian conquest.

In Western Europe they are mostly immigrants and they get pampered by the government even if they kill, rape and steal. And if you don't like that - well that's hate speech, and you get fined and go to jail, bigot!
That's not really true. They often get away with shit because local police is too afraid for reasons other than optics.
 
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Putin really didn't miss the opportunity to own the US. The United States really look like cucks. This so far wasn't an absolute humiliation for Russia lmao.
Ziggers are the final boss in bad faith arguments. You will accomplish nothing engaging them. Even if unquestionably proven embarrassingly crushingly incorrect they will simply ignore it and continue to repeat the lie as if nothing happened. There is nothing you can bring to the table, no evidence to show them. no argument you can make that will dissuade them from their "truth". Their minds simply do not operate on reason or logic. They believe in the "truth" given to them by their Orwellian authorities. If Big Brother tells them X then that is what they will repeat. If Big Brother tells them Y then they never repeated X and it was always Y.

They live in an eternal present where reality is just what they are told to believe in the moment. Do not engage.
 
Ukrainians got frog cannons now:
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That's not really true. They often get away with shit because local police is too afraid for reasons other than optics.
I wonder how easy it is to bribe local police; especially in eastern states, closer to the conflict.
 
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What reasons, exactly?
I'm surprised people are this clueless https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cs...detain-hundreds-who-had-nothing-to-do-with-it

And much more prominent case, I almost joined ultranationalist movement due to these events:
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TL;DR is that police covers up such crimes, either to avoid retribution from mountain nigger diaspora, due to corruption or to hide the fact that there are ethnic tensions. Depends on the case. But it has always been a problem.
 
TL;DR is that police covers up such crimes, either to avoid retribution from mountain nigger diaspora, due to corruption or to hide the fact that there are ethnic tensions. Depends on the case. But it has always been a problem.
Considering how much industrial grade projection I've seen come from russia these past 3 months, pretty much from every source possible, Putin, Medvedev, vatniks, gopniks, russian media, lukashenko, kadyrov... Part of me wonders how big a part of this war is to actually hide/distract from various problems russia has by simply saying "Look over there, look how much worse it is in the west"

After all, nothing unites a nation like a common enemy and war. And most wars are started by states who have very little to lose and are collapsing even if only the high ups actually realize that fact.

When I watch russian state TV I think about that scene in "V for Vendetta" where british hitler was ordering the media to create stories about how the entire world is collapsing and how people under him are safe because unlike the rest of the world a dictatorship can take care of things the right way, doesn't help that lukashenko said pretty much literally that a few weeks back.

Just about every single thing I've heard from russian sources is an accusation of the west doing/being something that russia is actually currently doing/being and even when it's true what they say about the west it's exaggerated to a hilarious degree, I live in the west, I really don't like the west as it is but god fucking damnit it doesn't even come remotely close to being as hilariously bad as they describe it.
 
Part of me wonders how big a part of this war is to actually hide/distract from various problems russia has by simply saying "Look over there, look how much worse it is in the west"
I always assumed that it was the main purpose of the aggressive foreign policy and rhetoric.
After the fall of USSR anti-West sentiment all but died, but Putin resurrected Cold War era notions over the years and here we are, at the point where Russia is flailing nukes impotently.

Vatniks, especially boomers, would justify any hardships as long as it's for the sake of fighting the perceived threat, within and without.

For example, if I say that cutting global internet would be an issue for me, they would reply with "We grew up without internet just fine, in fact it was even better back then!", so fuck me I guess, and everyone who relies on it for work and/or education.
They're willing to give up nigh anything for the supposed stability, even if it means regressing back decades. Don't rock the boat or else.
 
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Russians appear to have finally found some focus as the Popansa salient has widened and seemingly stabilized, with advances and attempted aggression from the north and east as well they seem to be encirling and trying to snap shut the Lysychansk salient.

The Russians seem to be distracting the Ukranians by hurling as much artillery as humanly possible all along the novorussia fronts, keeping resources pinned there that could be moved up to deal with this advance.
 
I always assumed that it was the main purpose of the aggressive foreign policy and rhetoric.
After the fall of USSR anti-West sentiment all but died, but Putin resurrected Cold War era notions over the years and here we are, at the point where Russia is flailing nukes impotently.

Vatniks, especially boomers, would justify any hardships as long as it's for the sake of fighting the perceived threat, within and without.

For example, if I say that cutting global internet would be an issue for me, they would reply with "We grew up without internet just fine, in fact it was even better back then!", so fuck me I guess, and everyone who relies on it for work and/or education.
They're willing to give up nigh anything for the supposed stability, even if it means regressing back decades. Don't rock the boat or else.
It's so pathetic listening to russians groveling about how threatened they are, how everyone is out to get them, people living inside a nuclear state that is untouchable thanks to M.A.D. squealing like dogs about how terrified they are that the western baba yaga will come and snatch their kids and turn them trans, that NATO soldiers are around every blade of grass.

Officially this shit started because about a dozen people per year were being killed in Donbas, right? Stalinist thought remains strong, dozen was casus belli, tens of thousands dead civilians since are a statistic, russia will fight for Donbas and Lugansk to it's last citizen.
 
It's so pathetic listening to russians groveling about how threatened they are, how everyone is out to get them, people living inside a nuclear state that is untouchable thanks to M.A.D. squealing like dogs about how terrified they are that the western baba yaga will come and snatch their kids and turn them trans, that NATO soldiers are around every blade of grass.

Officially this shit started because about a dozen people per year were being killed in Donbas, right? Stalinist thought remains strong, dozen was casus belli, tens of thousands dead civilians since are a statistic, russia will fight for Donbas and Lugansk to it's last citizen.
I like to call it "siege mentality" and I'm not talking about the book by James Mason. It's the same thing that the Chinese use to justify their aggression against other peoples or territories. These countries have spent at least a good half of their history being under siege from enemy empires, be it the mongols or the ottoman turks, and so any time the nation needs to go to war or rile up it's citizenry it can appeal to this old feeling of being under attack by an eternal enemy.
 
It's different - Russia actually polices its Muslim populations, so even if what you said is true, there wouldn't be much of a problem for the rest of the country. And they would be mostly relegated to the territories that they've been living on for centuries - even before the Russian conquest.

In Western Europe they are mostly immigrants and they get pampered by the government even if they kill, rape and steal. And if you don't like that - well that's hate speech, and you get fined and go to jail, bigot!
Moslems dwell throughout Russia, Tatarstan, Chechnya and other places mainly in the Russian far east they have done for centuries. That's fine, but they certainly count and are far likelier to follow their faith than the Patriarchate of Moscow Orthodox and have a higher birthrate than European Russians who are likelier to leave anyhow. Perhaps more relevantly, Russia prior to this present war had a notable trend where the well educated left (rather than at best being a poor flunky of state official or a low cost worker in some foreign company) and they were replaced by poor Central Asian casual laborer migrants. These now find themselves pressed into the Putin war as their ID papers certainly aren't in order. Russian policing is certainly harsh on the poor and ill connected, but that's hardly much better than your rather stereotyped generalization for Europe.
 
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