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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Then why keep bringing them up?
I was replying to someone whose post was about the not-z's in Ukraine who are ACTUALLY not REAL nazis and it's all one big misunderstanding. You can go read the post I replied to for context.
Your concern trolling for a billionaire in a golden palace whose pathetic propagandists threatened to destroy Ireland (I note your Christian name) who sent a horde with names like Chinghiz (one of the Bucha killers) to rob and slaughter European Christians and steal their land is a form of sad cuckoldry. I posted the same earlier with sources, which I'm not bothered to search out again. The Avoz Regiment are among those heroically defending the frontiers of civilisation from an Asiatic despot and his orc horde.
It's not trolling and you're off your rocker. It's not even controversial to say Azov are nazis but you act like it's some big Russian lie.
 
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Then why keep bringing them up?
Because the Russian shills keep doing it. So because he’s hanging out with them so much it’s all he hears - Azov this Azov that muh Nazis blah blah blah.

A coalition of all the far right parties in Ukraine have a grand total of… one seat in parliament. A nation that needs people willing to fight is going to take these guys as volunteers without question because they’re rabid nationalists. In 2014, the Ukrainian army was a mess. They needed these guys and they still do - but they cracked down on them when they formally integrated them into the military. Most of the former leadership went into politics. And failed. They’ll probably do well in the next elections but I doubt they’ll get more than maybe 5 or 6 seats tops.
 
Perhaps the patch is upside down?

it is, but obviously neither the family nor photographer knows that. How often do you put your national flag upside down for an important propaganda photoshoot?


This is an interesting investigation, (in Rus) that dives deeper into Russians shipping shit out home, TVs', chairs, guitars, tents ... 50 tonnes worth. One of the bigger city recipients by weight is actually Moscow and Ekaterinburg.

The hilarious part was a Russian captain shipping Orlan 10 drone back home. In case anyone doubted how much theft goes on. I mean fuck your platoon, imma shipping this drone back to Russia.

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There are some really good interactive infographics about the loot, average parcel sizes etc.

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it is, but obviously neither the family nor photographer knows that. How often do you put your national flag upside down for an important propaganda photoshoot?
I believe you thought it was manufactured incorrectly. It's just as possible that the kid put the patch on himself; the photographer should have fixed it for him so if anything the retardation is probably on them. Kids get a free pass for dressing themselves poorly where I'm from.
 
This thing looks pretty damn hot
I believe you thought it was manufactured incorrectly. It's just as possible that the kid put the patch on himself; the photographer should have fixed it for him so if anything the retardation is probably on them. Kids get a free pass for dressing themselves poorly where I'm from.
Yeah and vegan cats exist.
 
See, I told you plebs that the international community wants nothing to do with Joe Biden's proxy war, they don't want to lose access to Russian markets. Anglo warmongers BTFOd yet again.


never mind the humanitarian side, that article is dumb, very dumb calling that conflict "regional" and not global. There is no "regional" conflicts anymore.

1. Afrika and countries of ME starving because disrupted grain supply suddenly involves more than one region. That's a big and current problem.

2. Trade in stolen goods, i.e. grain, steel, produce is global. Russiabros are willing to delivery anywhere who'd pay money. That's pretty global.

3. Ukraine has many nuke stations. Chernobyl has affected EU and as far North as Swedes and Norway. Shooting artillery into nuke stations, cutting off power to cooling to waste and reactors can very quickly become very global problem, in the sense of EU getting radioactive and 1/3 of global grain supply becoming radioactive. Ukraine can also have capability and brains to go nuclear power and missile tech yet again.

4. A lot of oil/gas supply goes through Ukraine to EU. The gas embargo can happen very quickly.

5. All countries play their games to their benefit, on a global stage, which this article tries to say that they are not. BRICS is a global organization.
 
never mind the humanitarian side, that article is dumb, very dumb calling that conflict "regional" and not global. There is no "regional" conflicts anymore.

1. Afrika and countries of ME starving because disrupted grain supply suddenly involves more than one region. That's a big and current problem.
Other nations are not entitled to the grain produced by Russia or Ukraine. If they don't like it, they can try to negotiate better terms instead of making empty threats.

2. Trade in stolen goods, i.e. grain, steel, produce is global. Russiabros are willing to delivery anywhere who'd pay money. That's pretty global.
Europeans have been stealing grain from Ukraine throughout its entire history, so this statement is nothing short of laughable.

3. Ukraine has many nuke stations. Chernobyl has affected EU and as far North as Swedes and Norway. Shooting artillery into nuke stations, cutting off power to cooling to waste and reactors can very quickly become very global problem, in the sense of EU getting radioactive and 1/3 of global grain supply becoming radioactive. Ukraine can also have capability and brains to go nuclear power and missile tech yet again.
Russia can maintain those nuke stations better than drunk Ukrainian selyuks. We don't need another Chernobyl on our hands, thank you very much.

4. A lot of oil/gas supply goes through Ukraine to EU. The gas embargo can happen very quickly.
You mean there's a way for Russia to stop selling gas to the Europeans AND have Ukraine take the blame for it? That sounds like a great way to turn Europe against Ukraine and end the weapon shipments right away.

5. All countries play their games to their benefit, on a global stage, which this article tries to say that they are not. BRICS is a global organization.
BRICS nations make up more than half the world's population and represent the majority of the international community. Does not even begin to compare to a meager handful of anglos and angry pollacks who think they rule the world (while the doctors aren't watching), lol.
 
Most of the former leadership went into politics. And failed. They’ll probably do well in the next elections but I doubt they’ll get more than maybe 5 or 6 seats tops.
And the rest are now dead, in a Russian gulag or FSB basement (i.e. dead), with a few survivors still running around like goblins under Azovstal.

At this point Azov Battalion exists in name only, besides the few who managed to escape before Azovstal was totally cut off; contrary to what a bunch of larping edgelords & ideological survivor/escapees would have everyone believe.
 
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I didn't condemn it, I merely stated the facts. What I condemn is unjust imprisonment, regardless of ideology.

I gave you just couple examples out of many. This shit happens constantly, and immigration is a big issue in Russia, it's just not something that propaganda outlets the likes of RT are going to cover.
Russia is not some kind of based white heaven, anyone thinking otherwise is patently retarded and should stop chugging Kremlin's tard cum.
Culturally speaking, even the supposed ethnic Russians could be hardly considered white.
people (especially westerners but also lots of others around the globe) tend to conflate nationalism and imperialism but they're not the same
in russias case, the ruling elite are definitely russian imperialists (they want to expand the russian state's domination and control over foreign territories) but they are definitely not russian nationalists (they don't give a shit about the russian people, they're perfectly fine with going against ethnic russian interests when doing so serves their personal or political goals)

moscows population could become 80% asiatic muslim and putins clique wouldn't give a single fuck about it as long as their hold on state power isn't threatened. they're anti-nationalist, and in that regard they are very similar to those who hold power in the west.
 
Russia can maintain those nuke stations better than drunk Ukrainian selyuks. We don't need another Chernobyl on our hands, thank you very much.
"lole Chernobyl was operator error"
your line has been out of date for longer than most of the people you're talking to in this thread have been alive
read the INSAG-7 report, i don't think theres much risk of another Chernobyl unless soviet-era incompetencies in designing nuclear safety controls makes a comeback for some reason
 
"lole Chernobyl was operator error"
your line has been out of date for longer than most of the people you're talking to in this thread have been alive
read the INSAG-7 report, i don't think theres much risk of another Chernobyl unless soviet-era incompetencies in designing nuclear safety controls makes a comeback for some reason
Well, I was not the one concerned about Chernobyl in the first place. But still, put a drunk peasant at the controls and you'll be surprised at how much they can destroy.

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I have a fourth option: The good equipment is needed to secure and maintain effective defensive positions on occupied territory and the shit equipment will be thrown onto the front line offensives in hopes that maybe they'll get some more ground or at least tie the Ukrainian forces and buy time to prepare for any counter offensives, it matters little, both the steel bricks and whoever is manning them are expendable, offensive is no longer a priority, maintaining any and all captured and occupied territory is.
I think it's the other way around. T-62s are for the tank companies of the motorized/mechanized BTGs on secondary fronts. You don't need the bestest tanks when they are just doing fire support for infantry against Ukrainian NG Motorized or TDF formations where they will be mostly used for knocking out bunkers and stuff. This frees up their more capable tanks to be sent east to the high intensity operations against the more formidable opponents.

There are also a couple BTGs of Naval Infantry that are refitting after Mariupol operations near where the T-62s were spotted. Marines are also the ones doing a bunch of heavy lifting in the Popansa area in the east. If they refit with T-62s then their surviving T-80BVs can go replace Popansa losses to keep them up to strength.

Just speculation here but it makes the most sense.
 
I think it's the other way around. T-62s are for the tank companies of the motorized/mechanized BTGs on secondary fronts. You don't need the bestest tanks when they are just doing fire support for infantry against Ukrainian NG Motorized or TDF formations where they will be mostly used for knocking out bunkers and stuff. This frees up their more capable tanks to be sent east to the high intensity operations against the more formidable opponents.

There are also a couple BTGs of Naval Infantry that are refitting after Mariupol operations near where the T-62s were spotted. Marines are also the ones doing a bunch of heavy lifting in the Popansa area in the east. If they refit with T-62s then their surviving T-80BVs can go replace Popansa losses to keep them up to strength.

Just speculation here but it makes the most sense.
The Naval Infantry only swapped away from T-55’s about a decade or so ago. The T-62M’s being given to them makes at least some sense.
 
T-80BV spotted on trains headed from Moscow area, likely to replace losses suffered by the 4th Guards Tank Division. Pretty interesting, I’m wondering if they’ve got spare T-80U or not now.
The 12th GTR hasn't been seen for a while. The assumption was it got amalgamated with the 13th GTR for the Izyum push. Could be trying to reform it with T-80BVs and making the 13th the only T-80U unit.

Or it could just be the obvious option. Replacements for the tank company of the 423rd GMRR.
 
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