Pathetic Gender Critical Parents of Troons - And others who object to troonery while also enabling it

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

And, on top of that, my husband and I were going to be investigated for "abuse" because we called her “Sage” and not “Draco”,

Hahaha Draco. Oh man.

 

[sperginity]

Ah, the classic women's gambit:
"You're just an asshole with no compassion! A closed minded selfish bigot! I'm going to fight for the well being of the downtrodden against you selfish oppressors, since I'm so much better more enlightened than you!"
"Oh no, I'm being affected! Someone come fix it for me! I'm being inconvenience and it's all your fault!"

your post is nothing but one set of politics going too far, which is the only thing that happens with politics. Any politics. I am struggling to think of a policy or position that isn't taken too far by retarded people, it will absolutely happen to you in your lifetime if it has not already.

 

[DumbDude42]

why liberal women refuse to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions even in the face of constant overwhelming evidence

evidence doesn't matter
you think facts don't care about their feelings, but their propaganda doesn't care about your facts either, and it has a much louder voice than you

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Draco?

You already fucked up by naming her sage. It was all down hill from here.

But the juvenile justice system is more fucked than I thought if you can be barred from seeing your sex trafficked kid because you misgendered her. These kids don't realise how much they are damaging their lives. And the adults in charge are letting it happen because tranny feels.



Or the lady that got cucked by her 22 year old blonde Ukrainian charity case.

Just be careful what you wish for.

The actual, full story behind that saga has to be something truly impressive. Because you may note, they did not name her Sage- her birth mother, presumably, did. Who was the daughter of the woman now raising "Draco." What happened to her? No idea, no mention. Whenever gran is raising the kids though, something has gone enormously wrong.

Because of that implied backstory- "I fucked up raising my own child so badly she is not able to parent her daughter, so I have to fuck that up too"- I take everything else with a grain of salt. If only we could hear the other sides of the story.

 

[Chongqing]

@Bani, do you possibly have insight as to why liberal women refuse to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions even in the face of constant overwhelming evidence?

I think it's because, for liberal women, their whole political ideology (and usually their identity as a person) is based on the idea of overcoming their own biology, their own reality.

Look at the abortion issue in the US. A lot of women think they have a right to never have a baby if one is conceived inside their body, just because it's their body. They take this concept and run with it into other forms of insanity beyond the abortion topic.

I know there's a lot of other examples but I can't think of them now.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Got a new one today (archive)

Since I have found so much comfort in reading other parents’ posts, I wanted to share my letter, in case it can help someone else. This letter was inspired (and in fact a few areas lifted) from a post titled Dear Daughter that appeared on your site. I have that post sitting on my desktop and I have read and reread it numerous times.

I, like many other parents here, am a registered democrat and used to be a donor to both the ACLU and Planned Parenthood. I am bi-sexual and have been married for 20 years. It is an interracial marriage and our oldest daughter (not my bio daughter but who I raised) is gay and has been with her partner for over 5 years. Our family has always been open about love and being true to yourself..I'm the handy one in our family, and my husband loves a craft fair. Both my husband and I are outspoken. We fight for social justice and have always encouraged our 3 girls to speak their minds and made sure they knew that they can do anything! We know we are not alone—we believe in our heart of hearts that it will all work out for our family and our daughter, but some days are just so hard.

Thanks for helping me process and allowing me to share our story.

Bisexual Proud Dem AWFL married to black (? I guess could be Asian) SJW man, with lesbian oldest daughter, "processing muh feels" about her other daughter trooning out. Comedy gold.

The rest of the letter isn't notable, it's just boring mushy stuff that should not be put in the public but nothing funny or interesting. The thing that gets me is that these people just cannot even post their sad poems and weepy diary entries without putting their social justice feminist gay cred up front. THAT is what makes it amusing.

 

[Cringe newfag]

Got a new one today (archive)



Bisexual Proud Dem AWFL married to black (? I guess could be Asian) SJW man, with lesbian oldest daughter, "processing muh feels" about her other daughter trooning out. Comedy gold.

The rest of the letter isn't notable, it's just boring mushy stuff that should not be put in the public but nothing funny or interesting. The thing that gets me is that these people just cannot even post their sad poems and weepy diary entries without putting their social justice feminist gay cred up front. THAT is what makes it amusing.

I think it's great. All this new wave of dissidents from the former mainstream are a lot more persuasive to normal people. No normie will listen to an article from Breitbart or whatever warning about all this. But if the article is hosted somewhere inoffensive, and starts with "I am a gay woman/liberal professor/black man/etc", they keep reading. If it's someone "from my side", then they can't immediately dismiss it as right wing propoganda. It keeps them reading and listening.

And I think a lot of these dissidents probably grasp that when writing, at least subconsciously. They know how to get their foot in the door. Just like any ex cultist. Those are always the best at talking to people still inside.

Obviously narcissism/guilt/reflex etc is part of the IdPol splurge these articles always have, but on some level it's pragmatic too.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I think it's great. All this new wave of dissidents from the former mainstream are a lot more persuasive to normal people. No normie will listen to an article from Breitbart or whatever warning about all this. But if the article is hosted somewhere inoffensive, and starts with "I am a gay woman/liberal professor/black man/etc", they keep reading. If it's someone "from my side", then they can't immediately dismiss it as right wing propoganda. It keeps them reading and listening.

And I think a lot of these dissidents probably grasp that when writing, at least subconsciously. They know how to get their foot in the door. Just like any ex cultist. Those are always the best at talking to people still inside.

Obviously narcissism/guilt/reflex etc is part of the IdPol splurge these articles always have, but on some level it's pragmatic too.

In principle, in the abstract, that makes sense.

I don't think reality plays out like that. People get "peaked" by the horrors they see going down and they get disillusioned with the whole thing. They want nothing to do with the virtue signalling cowardice. Yeah I guess a few other wine aunts and awfls will be persuaded but here's the problem with them: they don't do shit. They are completely ineffectual. Because as long as you are pro-bisexual-poly-leftism-whatever, you don't actually understand the problem. So any attempts you make to fix it are ineffective at best, or may even make it worse.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

In principle, in the abstract, that makes sense.

I don't think reality plays out like that. People get "peaked" by the horrors they see going down and they get disillusioned with the whole thing. They want nothing to do with the virtue signalling cowardice. Yeah I guess a few other wine aunts and awfls will be persuaded but here's the problem with them: they don't do shit. They are completely ineffectual. Because as long as you are pro-bisexual-poly-leftism-whatever, you don't actually understand the problem. So any attempts you make to fix it are ineffective at best, or may even make it worse.

It's entirely possible that they'll slowly come to understand that "pro-bisexual-poly-leftism-whatever" is the root of the problem though.

As frustrated as I am with TERFs and their lack of self awareness, they may or may not be on the right path to finally getting it.

Lefties do have the tendency to reverse-engineer traditionalism, and act like they discovered Atlantis.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I think it's great. All this new wave of dissidents from the former mainstream are a lot more persuasive to normal people. No normie will listen to an article from Breitbart or whatever warning about all this. But if the article is hosted somewhere inoffensive, and starts with "I am a gay woman/liberal professor/black man/etc", they keep reading. If it's someone "from my side", then they can't immediately dismiss it as right wing propoganda. It keeps them reading and listening.

And I think a lot of these dissidents probably grasp that when writing, at least subconsciously. They know how to get their foot in the door. Just like any ex cultist. Those are always the best at talking to people still inside.

Obviously narcissism/guilt/reflex etc is part of the IdPol splurge these articles always have, but on some level it's pragmatic too.

or it just shift the overton window where the most radical position you could have against all this stuff is to be someone that supports it 90% of the way there. Thats why i don't really care for terfs, they are still far left just not far left in the same way, it's ultimately not a big win if terfs get their way with the tranny issue but still push all their other radfem comunist crap in the process.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

or it just shift the overton window where the most radical position you could have against all this stuff is to be someone that supports it 90% of the way there. Thats why i don't really care for terfs, they are still far left just not far left in the same way, it's ultimately not a big win if terfs get their way with the tranny issue but still push all their other radfem comunist crap in the process.

Yeah exactly. There are individual terfs who are alright or even cool and relatively sensible. But at the end of the day they still don't comprehend or want to accept "biology is real and it is not your enemy." They want to combat "heterocentrism" and a lot of them are antinatalist. They think women's ability to get pregnant is a scary liability and not just a normal part of life. They disapprove to various individual degrees of the normal male drive to sexually desire and pursue women. They are just as much at war with reality as the troons, in their own way.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Look on the bright side, troons being the bridge too far for otherwise still very left wing people might be a good sign at people waking up, on the other hand it might be too late, these people allowed things to get to the point that only massive, maybe even unprecedented levels of violence might be the only thing that stops it.

Shit could have been stopped far sooner but if you chose to ignore it all and sperg out about Trump instead, congratulations, you are why things are so awful now.

From the "What's in a Name?" link:

>loves to watch anime
>is a "gay" ftm
Every time.

I feel bad about the long term impact anime has had sometimes, I think of all those geeky girls in the 2000s who were anime fans, now if you're like that, very quickly it's getting to be the default is to troon out.

That's... not good.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Yeah exactly. There are individual terfs who are alright or even cool and relatively sensible. But at the end of the day they still don't comprehend or want to accept "biology is real and it is not your enemy." They want to combat "heterocentrism" and a lot of them are antinatalist. They think women's ability to get pregnant is a scary liability and not just a normal part of life. They disapprove to various individual degrees of the normal male drive to sexually desire and pursue women. They are just as much at war with reality as the troons, in their own way.

then there's the whole political lesbianism aspect that is rife with grooming. So cool, my daughter is not groomed by troons on discord but groomed by dykes that tell her she has to munch the carpet to abolish capitalism or some shit.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

It's entirely possible that they'll slowly come to understand that "pro-bisexual-poly-leftism-whatever" is the root of the problem though.

As frustrated as I am with TERFs and their lack of self awareness, they may or may not be on the right path to finally getting it.

Lefties do have the tendency to reverse-engineer traditionalism, and act like they discovered Atlantis.

That's the issue though, is that it isn't pro-bisexual-poly-leftism-whatever, the problem is the identity politics themselves. BLM, feminists, trannies, etc, see themselves as a group separate from society maliciously and unjustly kept down, since they know they are superior to everyone and thus any society where they are not given what they want is obviously an evil and unfair one.

Inflammatory hyperbole aside, the truth is being into identity politics is virtually always a sign someone sucks. You have to be kind of a psychopath to see people as nothing but walking sets of labels, so I don't know if they'll ever necessarily "get it" because they see nothing wrong with the lefty nonsense. They love it as a tool to undermine the social order, it works great as a weapon against those they feel socially threatened by, the only thing they see as wrong is the fact it's being used against them.

Look on the bright side, troons being the bridge too far for otherwise still very left wing people might be a good sign at people waking up, on the other hand it might be too late, these people allowed things to get to the point that only massive, maybe even unprecedented levels of violence might be the only thing that stops it.

Shit could have been stopped far sooner but if you chose to ignore it all and sperg out about Trump instead, congratulations, you are why things are so awful now.

I think the issue is that whether or not they see it as a bridge too far, what are they going to do about it? Because mostly their response seems to be to sit around crying and hoping someone else fixes the problem, they won't ever take steps to address it beyond that. If the government/corporations tell them to get fucked, they'll swallow it.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

then there's the whole political lesbianism aspect that is rife with grooming. So cool, my daughter is not groomed by troons on discord but groomed by dykes that tell her she has to munch the carpet to abolish capitalism or some shit.

Yeah it's just specialized gay groomer shit, tailored for people who are responsive to political idealism. Or fearful of males, which could come from anything from actual abuse history to just being a shy nerd who is awkward about sex. And just like the teachers who troon kids out, the radfem dykes will swear all they did was help some lost young woman have the courage to live her true self.

 

[Sarah Connor]

Boomer, Gen X, and millenial leftists spend their lives undermining human society, and when they have children, shocked that their kids take it to its logical conclusion.

Millennials especially. I never really see it amongst boomers or Gen Xers, but Millennials seem to be going hog wild for making the world filled with more degenerates. Look at how many Millennials are childfree polyamorous queer free range vegan soy sex positive atheist libertarian cucks. There’s no hope for them.

I wonder what things are going to look like 10-15 years from today.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Today's parents are somewhat better than the other ones so far. (archive) They still mindlessly "affirmed" the declaration of gayness from a 12 year old boy without immediately digging into where and how he was being groomed, though, so their impressiveness is severely limited.

He had always been a special boy —a square peg, a socially awkward kid who preferred the company of adults to hanging out with his peers. He is sensitive, empathetic, mature, and intelligent, but he never quite fit in at school.

During his pre-teen years, he went down the Reddit, Tumblr rabbit hole, searching for his tribe. You’ve heard his story before on PITT, because it’s a common one.

At 12 1/2, he told us he was gay. We responded with love and support. But his social anxiety only grew and he began cutting. At 13 1/2 he asked for a gay therapist, and our school’s director recommended one. After three sessions our son told us he needed to come out to us AGAIN. “I’m a girl, I’m trans.” And again his revelation was met with love and support also this time we also reacted with surprise—and private and confident disbelief.

He had always been a special boy- the smother mother vibes are overwhelming.

Today, our son blames us for not pushing back at this absurd diagnosis. He doesn’t understand how we bought into it. Why did we not trust our gut feeling that this was wrong? Why did we let him buy girl clothes he never wore? Why did we send him to an LGBTQ+ summer camp, where counselors tell the kids, “This is where you can be yourself, this is where you are safe, your parents don’t understand you, we do”. Why did we go along with any of this when he had never shown “consistence, persistence or insistence” regarding gender dysphoria?

Why indeed? We gave him the simple answer. Fear. He had been cutting. And was constantly sharing statistics about trans suicide rates and that he only had a 40% chance of living past 18. We went along with it all, knowing it was not his truth, because we were scared he would kill himself. And whenever we sought reasonable counsel and wisdom we found none.

Son senses his parents' extreme moral and emotional weakness and correctly disrespects them. With these good instincts, he has a chance of actually fully recovering from this farce. Whitepill? I'll take it.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

Today's parents are somewhat better than the other ones so far. (archive) They still mindlessly "affirmed" the declaration of gayness from a 12 year old boy without immediately digging into where and how he was being groomed, though, so their impressiveness is severely limited.

He had always been a special boy- the smother mother vibes are overwhelming.

Son senses his parents' extreme moral and emotional weakness and correctly disrespects them. With these good instincts, he has a chance of actually fully recovering from this farce. Whitepill? I'll take it.

I dunno Cape, maybe I'm cynical but kids who manipulate their parents with threats of suicide multiple times have something wrong with them. He can't just blame that on grooming, he chose to utter those words to get his way knowing what it would to. The parents are naive dummies, but this kids is a little cluster B waiting to happen.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I dunno Cape, maybe I'm cynical but kids who manipulate their parents with threats of suicide multiple times have something wrong with them. He can't just blame that on grooming, he chose to utter those words to get his way knowing what it would to. The parents are naive dummies, but this kids is a little cluster B waiting to happen.

This is true. If I had to guess based on just what's available, I'd say it's probably a case of an overbearing mother and passive, checked-out dad leading to nonexistent discipline and structure and an insecure, chaotic attachment style. He seems to be prodding the inert corpses of his parents' giveadamns and trying to get a reaction, any reaction- definitely a solid precursor to being a personality disordered adult if he doesn't snap out of it soon. But, with DBT it is possible to snap out of it, especially caught early, so I won't go full blackpill on this one.

 

[Aunt Marge]

This shit always starts in America and gradually spreads throughout the west. I'm curious to see how other countries, particularly in the Anglosphere are gonna handle this shit.