Steven Universe - Now a Griefing Thread

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Damn Becky, between the baldspots and tacky scarf who are you trying to convince you're still hip with the queers, us or you? And you're getting dicked a black dude. Just because they added black and brown stripes to the gay flag doesn't mean that still makes you one of the queers.

I haven't seen the movie she's talking about but is the girl in question a character or just another representation quota based on her verbal asspatting?

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Alex is just butt hurt that no one wants to watch his girlfriend's crappy lesbian fanfic and is too addicted to wokeshit and twatter to make anything as good as GF.
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FTFY Oats.
 
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Damn Becky, between the baldspots and tacky scarf who are you trying to convince you're still hip with the queers, us or you? And you're getting dicked a black dude. Just because they added black and brown stripes to the gay flag doesn't mean that still makes you one of the queers.

I haven't seen the movie she's talking about but is the girl in question a character or just another representation quota based on her verbal asspatting?
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I haven't seen it either, but it looks like a pretty okay movie. Unfortunately.... watching this entire shit show in full really sours my interest in seeing it
 
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I checked in on the former board revisionist on SU and I was not expecting this.
What does an originally lesbo couple do after one troons out to save their marriage? Get a boyfriend.
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He started doing daily comics full of oversharing and being terminally online. It could be worth mining for the Bad Webcomics thread. I think it's safe to assume anyone who worked on this show is far from normal.
 
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Look, I understand how a lot of you feel about this show and I might catch a lot of hate for this but really it wasn’t that bad most of the time at least pre-Change Your Mind/Steven Universe Future. I felt like there was a lot built up whether intentionally or otherwise for the series that was ultimately never given any sensical or meaningful closer. It could have been great, I really believe that.

Personally, I was a huge fan of Pearl’s whole love triangle with Rose and Greg. There was so many good and complex emotions wound up in there and it felt a bit daring even at times with its hints of resentment towards Steven for merely existing in Rose’s place. There was good writing here when they tried.

I also really enjoyed the question of what Steven really even is in the context of this universe but ultimately felt that they made the wrong decision in that regard. I think it would have been much more impactful if when White Diamond tried to force Pink out, it worked. Pink would then have to answer for everything she’s done up to this point instead of hiding behind her “son” and forcing him to suffer the consequences of her actions.

I also really liked most of the songs. There were a few duds of course but I think for the most part they were a highlight of the show during its runtime especially after the series grew out of its initial silliness.
 
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DDBCAE CBAADCBE said:
I felt like there was a lot built up whether intentionally or otherwise for the series that was ultimately never given any sensical or meaningful closer. It could have been great, I really believe that.
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That’s all well and good, but there’s an old adage when it comes to creative endeavors: we can entertain hypotheticals about what something could’ve been if things had shaken out differently behind the scenes all we want, but at the end of the day you have to judge the final product based only on what’s on the wall.

What’s on the wall for SU unfortunately is a series that made a whole lot of promises and never delivered on most of them, and the ones it did deliver on were clumsy and poorly thought out at best. (Change Your Mind/Future are merely symptoms of already existing problems after all.) The Crewniverse and fans can blame that on 5 seasons being too few episodes, being simultaneously given too much and not enough time, the serialized bomb format Cartoon Network mandated, the non-serialized filler/townie format fans also claim Cartoon Network mandated, and working on tv budget all they want; but that won’t make the fact that SU overall dropped the ball (and dropped it hard) any less true.
 
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Modern SU is shit and I continue to find it hilarious how such a progressive show cpmpletely skated over the literal imperialism and genocide and eugenics carried out by the diamonds because 'they feel really bad about it guys', but earlier today I was reminded of how great the soundtracks were in the earlier season and it bummed me out a bit, because I just started thinking about how charming and funny and creative those first 3 seasons actually were. I was a big fan back then partially because of the music, but the direction the show took later turned me off it completely. The integration of music and visuals was always so striking, some scenes could have gotten away with no dialogue at all and still been completely comprehensible.

Like the gem shard monster scene from season 2. I watched it through again on youtube, just focusing on the music, and it's pretty incredibly how effectively the tension is ramped up through sound alone, yet the soundtrack itself is subtle enough that you barely notice it.

I think that's what's so bothersome about the last couple of seasons of SU and future. There was so much potential, so much talent, and it all led to nothing. Aside from a single pale rose, none of the music from the final season or Future is particularly memorable.

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It could have been great, I really believe that.
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And doesn't that make it so much worse?
 
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Modern SU is shit and I continue to find it hilarious how such a progressive show cpmpletely skated over the literal imperialism and genocide and eugenics carried out by the diamonds because 'they feel really bad about it guys',
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It wasn’t even that, they’re forgiven for everything by deciding to only begrudgingly change at Steven’s request because of his connection to Pink.

That’s one of the reasons I think Rose being revealed to be Pink in disguise was a bad idea in the long run. Because it meant that SU didn’t actually have to try to come up with any convincing arguments are for Steven’s beliefs when the mass murdering tyrants can be won over through bribery of reuniting with estranged family. Turns out Steven’s real power wasn’t love, but nepotism.
 
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It wasn’t even that, they’re forgiven for everything by deciding to only begrudgingly change at Steven’s request because of his connection to Pink.

That’s one of the reasons I think Rose being revealed to be Pink in disguise was a bad idea in the long run. Because it meant that SU didn’t actually have to try to come up with any convincing arguments are for Steven’s beliefs when the mass murdering tyrants can be won over through bribery of reuniting with estranged family. Turns out Steven’s real power wasn’t love, but nepotism.
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Rose being Pink really cheapened the characters of all the crystal gems. They were established as being hardened freedom fighters who had done some morally dodgy and even reprehensible things for the sake of the cause, and having Pink Diamond's death be a lie sort of killed that angle on their characters and really reduced the morality of the show to black and white terms. In that clip I posted earlier Garnet grapples with the idea of Rose knowing about the gem mutants, and you get the sense that she really doesn't know if Rose was aware or not, and she feels tremendous guilt for subjecting other people to such torment. You get the sense that the gems in the war weren't exactly the soft lovable characters they are in the present day.

One thing I found interesting, and that I wish they addressed more in Future, was the fate of all the colonies once they were liberated. The gem empire was dissolved so hastily, the show never really showed the audience how it worked or how big it was. Some of those planets must have been under Gem control for millenia, depleted of resources and dependant on the gems for support due to the hugely destructive mining operations taking place. I can't imagine that suddenly having that authority and centralising power stripped away because of events that took place light years away would be a particularly good thing.
 
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