War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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[LORD IMPERATOR]

Yes. My point is the west has way more to lose in a nuclear war. Russia's entire economy is the size of Texas. When only a handful of nukes are required to delete the entire digital economy via geomagnetic storm, everyone loses but some players lose more than others. We *should* avoid backing Russia into a corner where how fucked they'll be by our nukes is worth how fucked we'll be.

In my opinion, the US, NATO, Ukraine, and Russia are all pants-shitting retarded for the constant escalation. Putin is the most at fault but the west has hardly helped the situation.

In the event of an escalation, all the West needs to destroy Russia is two nukes; one aimed at Moscow, the other at St. Petersburg. Take those two big population centers away, and the rest of Russia will be nothing but small cities and bumfuck wilderness that won't pose a threat.

Also, Putin can quit this war anytime and claim that he's done enough damage to "de-Nazify Ukraine". He just chooses not to. Zelensky even gave him an "out" and offered to recognize the breakaway provinces while promising not to join NATO; Putin responded with silence and refused.

Russian elites have 100% everything to loose, because none of it is in Russia.

Low born regular Russians may not have much to loose (except their outdoor shitters), but in fact Putin and pretty much anyone of importance there, lives/has real estate outside of Russia, have families outside of Russia. Most Duma members have foreign citizenships.

Sure, shit is bad right now and a lot of people got sanctioned, but it will pass eventually, so there will be ways to recover fortunes.

Russia is not in the corner, Ukraine is. RF troops aren't the same "polite men" they have been in Crimea. Surrendering means loosing territory, any claims to compensation, hundreds of thousands of displaced people, perma-fucked economy. Under Russian occupation it's total looting, rape and murder. Ukrainians haven't got much choice, they are in the corner, not Putin and not Russia.

Exactly. You can't get any more cornered than the enemy baring down on your land and raping/killing your civilians. At that point, the kid gloves have to come off, and you have to fight seriously.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Also, Putin can quit this war anytime and claim that he's done enough damage to "de-Nazify Ukraine". He just chooses not to. Zelensky even gave him an "out" and offered to recognize the breakaway provinces while promising not to join NATO; Putin responded with silence and refused.

There's a reason why the initial push was directed at Kiev, rather than just at securing the "republics" in the east. Putin considers Ukraine's entire existence as an independent state to be "anti-russian" IE "nazi". The current attempt at creating a land bridge is a fallback position, designed to encircle and isolate Ukraine in order to finlandise it, with the long term goal of cultural suppression and absorption into Russia. He clearly, originally wanted to decapitate the government and install a puppet for the same purpose.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

There's a reason why the initial push was directed at Kiev, rather than just at securing the "republics" in the east. Putin considers Ukraine's entire existence as an independent state to be "anti-russian" IE "nazi". The current attempt at creating a land bridge is a fallback position, designed to encircle and isolate Ukraine in order to finlandise it, with the long term goal of cultural suppression and absorption into Russia. He clearly, originally wanted to decapitate the government and install a puppet for the same purpose.

Exactly. And a lot of people claim otherwise, but only after the Russians got the beating of a lifetime and went from being the second most-powerful army in the world to the second most-powerful army in Ukraine. All the Russiaboos were claiming that Kiev can fall at any minute, then when that failed to materialize, they began making excuse after excuse. Pathetic.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

And your articles are more accurate than mine because........why, again? Those sources of yours are hardly as valid as the more mainstream sources; one of them even claims that Islam is pro-life AND pro-choice, which is impossible.

If you look at the numbers lost, and the budget that Russia has, it's obvious that they've lost more than one T-90M, and they don't have that much of them around. Again, look at the national GDP of Russia, and ask yourself: is that capable of buying enough T-90Ms to turn the tide of the war? Or is that even enough to maintain a large tank force, alongside a modern air force, navy, and ground forces? Can they really afford all of that on the same budget as New York State? If that's the case, then by that logic, New York State would be capable of making enough T-90M tanks to supply to Ukraine, would it not?

https://www.engineerine.com/2022/03/how-powerful-is-russian-armys-t-90-tank.html

Dude, what is wrong with you. I sent the last link as an explainer about open-source reporting. You didn't read it, read through the headlines on the site's homepage, found one that upset you, and stopped there. Read the article. The reason open-source casualty confirmation is more reliable than mainstream sources is because it's reliable at all.

The way open-source reporting works is they use photos uploaded from the warzone, geo-tag them so they know exactly where they were taken and that they are actually from the war and not a casualty which has already been counted. If you click on each individual loss from the first two links, you can see the photos which were used to confirm each loss, and confirm it for yourself if you doubt it. It's independently verifiable and rigorous, unlike the journo fluff pieces you are posting, which just repeats what's been posted to Twitter without verifying it.

Lastly, this talking point about New York is ridiculous. Yes, New York could buy a huge army if it wanted to, but how is that relevant? New York isn't just "some aging blue state", it's one of the world's centers of finance, which means the state's GDP is huge compared to the actual industry the state has. Russia, on the other hand, has very little international finance bumping up its GDP, while having much more heavy industry. There's a million reasons why using GDP as a measure of anything is dumb, but probably the other most important one to account for here is that Russians are much less wealthy when compared to New Yorkers, and the cost of living is also much, much, lower in Russia. So money goes a lot further in RU than in NY, and war material can be produced much less expensively.

Russia has way more heavy material than Ukraine, we can verify that, and no amount of GDP penis inspection is going to change that lmao

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Dude, what is wrong with you. I sent the last link as an explainer about open-source reporting. You didn't read it, read through the headlines on the site's homepage, found one that upset you, and stopped there. Read the article. The reason open-source casualty confirmation is more reliable than mainstream sources is because it's reliable at all.

The way open-source reporting works is they use photos uploaded from the warzone, geo-tag them so they know exactly where they were taken and that they are actually from the war and not a casualty which has already been counted. If you click on each individual loss from the first two links, you can see the photos which were used to confirm each loss, and confirm it for yourself if you doubt it. It's independently verifiable and rigorous, unlike the journo fluff pieces you are posting, which just repeats what's been posted to Twitter without verifying it.

And yet your sources come from very biased websites that make outlandish claims. Compare that to news sites that have more legitimacy than some website that claims that Islam is somehow both pro-life and pro-choice (not possible, BTW) that have all claimed that T-90Ms are being destroyed at an alarming rate. So again, your sources are nowhere near as viable or trustworthy as mine.

It's obvious that news sources have biases. But the biases from my sources aren't as obvious when compared to the biases that your sources use.

I have more sources than you do, and your sources have rather strange.......views that don't match up to reality.

https://www.defenceview.in/why-russias-feared-t-90-tank-keeps-getting-killed-in-ukraine/

https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/05/05/russias-t-90-tank-is-being-destroyed-in-big-numbers-in-ukraine/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10783207/amp/Ukraine-war-Russian-T-90M-main-battle-tank-destroyed.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/russia-ukraine-tank-destroyed-video-b2076028.html

So what, are they all liars while yours is the only source that tells the truth? How biased of you.

Lastly, this talking point about New York is ridiculous. Yes, New York could buy a huge army if it wanted to, but how is that relevant? New York isn't just "some aging blue state", it's one of the world's centers of finance, which means the state's GDP is huge compared to the actual industry the state has. Russia, on the other hand, has very little international finance bumping up its GDP, while having much more heavy industry. There's a million reasons why using GDP as a measure of anything is dumb, but probably the other most important one to account for here is that Russians are much less wealthy when compared to New Yorkers, and the cost of living is also much, much, lower in Russia. So money goes a lot further in RU than in NY, and war material can be produced much less expensively.

New York is also a failing blue state rife with corruption, crime, and a dysfunctional government. Also, isn't Russia supposed to be a hotbed of natural resources and minerals? The Nazis even invaded them for that specific purpose; outside of eliminating Communism, they needed the rich natural resources of Russia to keep their society going. If Russia's rulers actually put their backs to it, they'd be richer than all 50 states put together, yet they produce less wealth than New York and the increasingly weakening Wall Street, because corruption is so bad in Russia it makes Wall Street corruption look positively ignorable.

Using GDP as a measure of resources is a great way to explain things. It explains how much money per year a country makes, which in turn, explains how much money they can spend on things like the military. A lower GDP means less money for the military, which means less advanced tanks, and more reliance on mothballed equipment that won't stand the test of modern warfare.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

And yet your sources come from very biased websites that make outlandish claims. Compare that to news sites that have more legitimacy than some website that claims that Islam is somehow both pro-life and pro-choice (not possible, BTW) that have all claimed that T-90Ms are being destroyed at an alarming rate. So again, your sources are nowhere near as viable or trustworthy as mine.

It's obvious that news sources have biases. But the biases from my sources aren't as obvious when compared to the biases that your sources use.

I have more sources than you do, and your sources have rather strange.......views that don't match up to reality.

https://www.defenceview.in/why-russias-feared-t-90-tank-keeps-getting-killed-in-ukraine/

https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/05/05/russias-t-90-tank-is-being-destroyed-in-big-numbers-in-ukraine/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10783207/amp/Ukraine-war-Russian-T-90M-main-battle-tank-destroyed.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/russia-ukraine-tank-destroyed-video-b2076028.html

So what, are they all liars while yours is the only source that tells the truth? How biased of you.


New York is also a failing blue state rife with corruption, crime, and a dysfunctional government. Also, isn't Russia supposed to be a hotbed of natural resources and minerals? The Nazis even invaded them for that specific purpose; outside of eliminating Communism, they needed the rich natural resources of Russia to keep their society going. If Russia's rulers actually put their backs to it, they'd be richer than all 50 states put together, yet they produce less wealth than New York and the increasingly weakening Wall Street, because corruption is so bad in Russia it makes Wall Street corruption look positively ignorable.

No. Using GDP as a measure of resources is a great way to explain things. It explains how much money per year a country makes, which in turn, explains how much money they can spend on things like the military. A lower GDP means less money for the military, which means less advanced tanks, and more reliance on mothballed equipment that won't stand the test of modern warfare.

That's twice now that the point has sailed over your head. That third link from the site you're complaining about isn't the source I'm using, it's just a general explainer on open-source casualty confirmation, since you didn't know what that was. The top two sources that you've so far completely ignored are the actual casualty reports I'm directing you to, which, again, are based on geo-located photographic evidence which you can verify yourself if you don't trust it.

You haven't even read your own sources, because if you did, you'd see that every reference to a destroyed T-90M in all the articles you've posted, are referring to the exact same T-90M, the only one which has been confirmed destroyed. Here's a good summary of the info on the T-90M that was destroyed, hopefully it helps you: https://youtu.be/mjx_GMLF--Y

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

That's twice now that the point has sailed over your head. That third link isn't the source I'm using, it's just a general explainer on open-source casualty confirmation. The top two sources that you've so far completely ignored are the actual casualty reports I'm directing you to, which, again, are based on geo-located photographic evidence which you can verify yourself if you don't trust it.

You haven't even read your own sources, because if you did, you'd see that every reference to a destroyed T-90M in all the articles you've posted, are referring to the exact same T-90M, the only one which has been confirmed destroyed. Here's a good summary of the info on the T-90M that was destroyed, hopefully it helps you: https://youtu.be/mjx_GMLF--Y

Again, all these news sources are reporting MULTIPLE T-90M casualties, so it's obvious you didn't read them at all. They aren't all referring to a single tank that has been destroyed, but rather, reports of multiple T-90M tanks that have been destroyed. This whole idea that Russia is holding back its best has been disproven:

And again, GDP is a great way to tell how much a country can spend on war. Especially since heavy industry still counts as GDP because it's still economic activity. Just ask the Chinese; industry practically made their country an economic superpower.

 

[Les Morfalous]

.......Lower GDP means less money for the military.....

Not in Russia. I'll use this old witz to explain

A boy comes home from school and goes to his dad:
"daddy on the radio today they anounced an increase in the price of vodka! Does this mean you are going to drink less?"
"No son - replied the father - It means you are going to eat less".

Russian national identity is dominated by "Russia STRONK" - they would happily eat pig shit to keep their delusional superpower status going.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Not in Russia. I'll use this old witz to explain

A boy comes home from school and goes to his dad:
"daddy on the radio today they anounced an increase in the price of vodka! Does this mean you are going to drink less?"
"No son - replied the father - It means you are going to eat less".

Russian national identity is dominated by "Russia STRONK" - they would happily eat pig shit to keep their delusional superpower status going.

Their DELUSIONAL superpower status. You can only produce so much with a yearly budget of New York State. Even if they spent every red cent they made every year on the military, it won't get close to being enough. Which means all the high-tech stuff like the advanced T-90Ms are not going to be mass-produced.

 

[Occam's Spork]

Again, all these news sources are reporting MULTIPLE T-90M casualties, so it's obvious you didn't read them at all. They aren't all referring to a single tank that has been destroyed, but rather, reports of multiple T-90M tanks that have been destroyed.

And again, GDP is a great way to tell how much a country can spend on war. Especially since heavy industry still counts as GDP because it's still economic activity. Just ask the Chinese; industry practically made their country an economic superpower.

It's called propaganda bud. You're falling for it harder than most in this thread. You also had a curious predilection pages back about dedovshcina, and you constantly brought up homo buttrape of conscripts in the Russian military as some sorta weird try at a gotcha whenever anyone disagreed with you on contested points. Not sure why, but it made me raise an eyebrow. Anyways, I'll read your posts the same way I always have in this thread, with a nice dose of salt. Remember, this is a war with vast consequences for both victor and vanquished, and even if you're all in for team red or team blue, this war will have serious ramifications for quite some time to everyone but poor south americans, africans, and middle easterners too unintelligent to understand the situation. If it gets to a point where MAD breaks down, we're all pretty fucked. I think you were also one of the ringleaders of the spergfest WWII derail, as if that is anything but tangentially relevant to the current conflict. WWII is history, and speculating on how many tanks the Nazis would have needed to reinforce Rommel would have saved the bacon in NA and how that would have affected the Russian response to Barbarossa without lend lease or whatever is a far cry from speculation on a current battlezone full of drones, loitering munitions, satellite info, and the internet. Quit your sperging, dig deeper, and quit fucking cheerleading.

I'm no fan of Russia in it's current state, what it's done in the recent past, and what it did as the USSR, but this thread needs way less cheering for more dead fuckers on either side, and way more thoughtful analysis, imo. Problem there, is that it's a still very hot war. So you can't really trust much.

To reiterate from my first post in this thread, I hope for the quickest end to this idiot conflict. Not just for saving lives that would be ground up, but for the people it will affect outside of the conflict, and the huge amount of knock on effects this will have economically that can be strained to ends by activists who have singular agendas and no scruples.

 

[CaesarCzech]

Okay so lest assume Russia keeps going until it goes USSR(i find it curious how pro ukies claim that Russians are literally orcs and yet they claim that russia will give up any minute because they wont fight to the end living in shacks, AT THE SAME TIME) how long can it go on ? because while Russia with its mentality can go on pretty long time but its propable they cant go on forever because there is difference between drop in quality of living no matter how massive and total collapse of function of the state.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

Again, all these news sources are reporting MULTIPLE T-90M casualties, so it's obvious you didn't read them at all. They aren't all referring to a single tank that has been destroyed, but rather, reports of multiple T-90M tanks that have been destroyed.

No, I've read your sources, and you haven't. Let's go over every article you've posted so far, and see if you're telling the truth:

Spoiler: For length

#1 https://www.defenceview.in/why-russias-feared-t-90-tank-keeps-getting-killed-in-ukraine/
Source: defenseview.in, an obscure Indian military blog.
Your Claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's Claim: No kill-count is provided, and the T-90M is never mentioned. This article is also a re-post of #8.

0/1

#2 https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/05/05/russias-t-90-tank-is-being-destroyed-in-big-numbers-in-ukraine/
Source: ukrainetoday.org, an obscure pro-Ukraine blog
Your Claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's Claim: Only the one destroyed T-90M is mentioned. No other losses are mentioned, despite the title of the article saying T-90s are being destroyed in "Big Numbers"

0/2

#3 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Russian-T-90M-main-battle-tank-destroyed.html
Source: The Daily Mail, a British tabloid with a long history of reporting blatant falsehoods. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/
Your Claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's Claim: Only talks about the one T-90M that has been destroyed, and mentions that it is the first and only one.

0/3

#4 https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/russia-ukraine-tank-destroyed-video-b2076028.html
Source: The Independent, a left-wing British news site with a mixed history of false reporting. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/
Your Claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's claim: Again, only the one T-90M is mentioned.

0/4

#5 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Russias-latest-gen-T-90M-tank-destroyed.html
Source: The Daily Mail, a British tabloid with a long history of reporting blatant falsehoods.
Your claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's claim: This is just a repost of the previous Daily Mail story about the same T-90M, but with new footage.

0/5

#6 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Russian-T-90M-main-battle-tank-destroyed.html
You posted this one twice lmao

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#7 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-tsaplienko-tank-t-90-1703662
Source: Newsweek, an American left-wing news site.
Your claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's claim: Again, the article is about the same T-90M, the only one confirmed to have been lost.

0/7

#8 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/russian-t-90m-battle-tank-154853760.html
Source: Yahoo, an American news aggregator site.
Your claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's claim: Again, only the one T-90M is mentioned.

0/8

#9 https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/russias-t-90-tank-is-being-destroyed-in-big-numbers-in-ukraine/
Source: 1945, an American military blog.
Your Claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's Claim: The exact same article from Source 1.

0/9

#10 https://www.engineerine.com/2022/03/how-powerful-is-russian-armys-t-90-tank.html?m=1
Source: engineerine.com, the personal blog of some guy named Ahmad Ghayad. Seems to be Lebanese.
Your claim: Multiple T-90Ms have been destroyed.
Article's claim: Opinion article. Says the T-90 "sucks", only mentions the one T-90M in passing.

0/10

Zero for ten so far. Not a shred of evidence that more than the one T-90M has been destroyed. You are retarded hahahaha

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Dude, what is wrong with you. I sent the last link as an explainer about open-source reporting. You didn't read it, read through the headlines on the site's homepage, found one that upset you, and stopped there. Read the article. The reason open-source casualty confirmation is more reliable than mainstream sources is because it's reliable at all.

The way open-source reporting works is they use photos uploaded from the warzone, geo-tag them so they know exactly where they were taken and that they are actually from the war and not a casualty which has already been counted. If you click on each individual loss from the first two links, you can see the photos which were used to confirm each loss, and confirm it for yourself if you doubt it. It's independently verifiable and rigorous, unlike the journo fluff pieces you are posting, which just repeats what's been posted to Twitter without verifying it.

Lastly, this talking point about New York is ridiculous. Yes, New York could buy a huge army if it wanted to, but how is that relevant? New York isn't just "some aging blue state", it's one of the world's centers of finance, which means the state's GDP is huge compared to the actual industry the state has. Russia, on the other hand, has very little international finance bumping up its GDP, while having much more heavy industry. There's a million reasons why using GDP as a measure of anything is dumb, but probably the other most important one to account for here is that Russians are much less wealthy when compared to New Yorkers, and the cost of living is also much, much, lower in Russia. So money goes a lot further in RU than in NY, and war material can be produced much less expensively.

Russia has way more heavy material than Ukraine, we can verify that, and no amount of GDP penis inspection is going to change that lmao

You seem German

All the dick measuring aside, I just want to take a moment to tell all the motherfuckers cheering for Russia in this war to fucking kill themselves.
Millions of lives ruined due to displacement, destruction of property, loss of family and friends.
This is what you jerk off to, deranged bastards.
Go and do a school shooting or something, if you want your people to suffer so much. Leave mine alone.

 

[MG-34]

You seem German

All the dick measuring aside, I just want to take a moment to tell all the motherfuckers cheering for Russia in this war to fucking kill themselves.
Millions of lives ruined due to displacement, destruction of property, loss of family and friends.
This is what you jerk off to, deranged bastards.
Go and do a school shooting or something, if you want your people to suffer so much. Leave mine alone.

Wait for the idiots who after calling Ukranians pigs and fake people claim they only want whats best for them, as if Russia brand corruption and globohomo is a flavor better than western brand corruption and globohomo.

 

[Occam's Spork]

You seem German

All the dick measuring aside, I just want to take a moment to tell all the motherfuckers cheering for Russia in this war to fucking kill themselves.
Millions of lives ruined due to displacement, destruction of property, loss of family and friends.
This is what you jerk off to, deranged bastards.
Go and do a school shooting or something, if you want your people to suffer so much. Leave mine alone.

I could've sworn you said you actually were Russian tho. Not that I would go against you given what is currently happening. My bad if I'm wrong again.

Wait for the idiots who after calling Ukranians pigs and fake people claim they only want whats best for them, as if Russia brand corruption and globohomo is a flavor better than western brand corruption and globohomo.

I really don't want to derail this thread again, but this whole concept of globohomo seems manufactured to me and always has. I get that certain powerful Jews and their gentile cohorts call the shots at gatherings like Davos and their aims will make us all less "free". However, I see some massively good effects of globalism as well as assholes with power doing what assholes with power tend to do. I think that more nationalism is needed, since peoples should have pride in their past and present. I don't want to derail this again. DM me or just @ me to an extant thread, pls.

 

[Tovarisz]

You seem German

All the dick measuring aside, I just want to take a moment to tell all the motherfuckers cheering for Russia in this war to fucking kill themselves.
Millions of lives ruined due to displacement, destruction of property, loss of family and friends.
This is what you jerk off to, deranged bastards.
Go and do a school shooting or something, if you want your people to suffer so much. Leave mine alone.

Perhaps a grandson of a victim of rape of Berlin, Ey if they weren't fucking westernized pussies and faggots they would be on the front lines already but I'm sure they have it in their head they're doing their part fighting the "infowars" against "even worse than me" degenerates.

Russians have it on easy mode, especially ones living in the evil, degenerate west, nobody is even daring to bomb their shit or turn their lives into living hell, they can talk shit and act tough but if life taught me anything about gopniks, all you need to do to make them shrink is look them in the eyes with confidence, and sadly, that's what the western leaders seem incapable of understanding, but hey, what can you expect from people who were well of from their birth and never faced something like a gopnik, worse, they fear him when an average gopnik is a basic bitch Ethan Ralph, punch him once and suddenly he's making pig noises in the hopes the Police he hates will rescue him.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I could've sworn you said you actually were Russian tho. Not that I would go against you given what is currently happening. My bad if I'm wrong again.

I'm half-Russian half-Ukrainian who was born in Ukraine but lived all his life in Russia. I have family in both countries, and know people on both sides of the conflict who were affected by it, even someone lucky enough to be wounded but return in one piece on the Russian side.

We all pay the price for the ambitions of one evil manlet, some more than others.
There's no justifying it.

 

[Occam's Spork]

I'm half-Russian half-Ukrainian who was born in Ukraine but lived all his life in Russia. I have family in both countries, and know people on both sides of the conflict who were affected by it, even someone lucky enough to be wounded but return in one piece on the Russian side.

We all pay the price for the ambitions of one evil manlet, some more than others.
There's no justifying it.

I'm gonna just say I totally agree with you instead of mashing a button to do so. I wish that endemic corruption and a "strongman good" ethos wasn't a thing in Russia, but that goes way back, for a lot of reasons that I've learned.

At this point, I'm just twisting my beard at how Putin will go out, not whether he will. And who will be his replacement. And we know it will be some ass from the higher ranks born eating KGB propaganda.

 

[Snekposter]

To go with what Lord Imperator is saying, even though he's stuck on repeat and can't come up with a new way of phrasing things...

Three things are necessary to wage war: money, money, and yet more money.

The sinews of war are infinite money.

Russia cannot, no matter how destitute the average Russian becomes, no matter how many rubles are sucked out of his pocket to go to the military, cannot sustain this war longer than Ukraine, backed by the economic and industrial might of the west. Ukraine has zero incentive to not take out every loan it can from the West, since if they lose its moot, and if they win there will almost assuredly be some sort of Marshall Plan 2.0 to get NATO's newest member back on track. And join NATO they will, should the war be resolved in a way that leaves them free from Moscow's dominion, either de facto or de jure.

I'm half-Russian half-Ukrainian who was born in Ukraine but lived all his life in Russia. I have family in both countries, and know people on both sides of the conflict who were affected by it, even someone lucky enough to be wounded but return in one piece on the Russian side.

We all pay the price for the ambitions of one evil manlet, some more than others.
There's no justifying it.

I've run into a few Russians online since shit kicked off. They're incredibly pissed about seeing whatever future their country might have had pissed away down the shitter by Putin's ambitions. Not everyone in Russia is a braindead vatnik (whatever the fuck that term means).

 

[Tovarisz]

I've run into a few Russians online since shit kicked off. They're incredibly pissed about seeing whatever future their country might have had pissed away down the shitter by Putin's ambitions. Not everyone in Russia is a braindead vatnik (whatever the fuck that term means).

Vatnik is the dude with USSR nostalgia who accepts his role as a pawn in the hands of something bigger, eats all the slop he's fed and is a good russian citizen.

Gopnik is essentially a slav squatting, vodka fueled bully demanding protection money from every random who passes by with dreams of becoming a member of the ruling gang.

Russia never had any future because anyone who wasn't one of the afromentioned is either in a prison colony, dead, has emigrated or is playing the "I'll just try to get by" game praying that his ass won't be on the list of next wave of cannon fodder.

All things considered, russia had nearly the same amount of time to become a real power that china had, but they also had all the resources in the world they didn't have to import on top of that, they squandered it all, became a global gas station and fuck all beyond that, now they're coping, threatening everyone because they have fuck all left but being a bitch state to eastern asia.