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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Don't equate wetback civilians to the warrior class. If one cop gets hurt, there is gonna be manhunt so big, anyone in US who can pronounce "da" will be purged on a scale never seen before.
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I understand that you are probably new to America, but cops and veterans, or the "warrior class" as you call them, are treated worse than shit by the American government.

I don't want the US to send them, because Putin will be a faggot and whine about MUH PROVOCATIONS all while threatening to nuke anyone and everyone who doesn't give him what he wants like a petulant child. Which is not surprising, have you heard the guy speak in English? He lisps like a queer and sounds like a 5 year old. Now if we were to just so happen to give some to Poland, and whoops they end up in Ukraine I have no problem, as long as they level every laffy taffy "cathedral" in Russia. Oh and hey, keep simping for a Russian glownigger.

Edit: Also if Russia is super competent and le based like your favorite foreskin munchers in Mossad why do they need to invade Ukraine to "denazify" it? Why not just use the super duper tacticool GRU to capture all da ebil nadzeeez? Oh yeah, because either A: Russia is fucking incompetent or B: The whole "denazify" excuse is just that, a lame excuse.
So you're afraid of getting nuked, got it. Also you forgot option c) NATO bred so many nazis in Ukraine that it required a full scale military operation to clear them out.
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I understand that you are probably new to America, but cops and veterans, or the "warrior class" as you call them, are treated worse than shit by the American government.


or c) NATO bred so many nazis in Ukraine that it required a full scale military operation to clear them out.
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You know that saying about everyone you meet being an asshole? Maybe Russia and you should think on that. Now that I think of it Russia and Ethan Ralph really are more similar than one would initially think, especially in terms of their handling of relationships
Step 1: Do something really fucking stupid that pisses everyone around you off
Step 2: Throw a shitfit when people call you a retard for your idiotic behavior
Step 3: Claim everyone is betraying you and that they attacked first to provoke you
Step 4: Burn every bridge to the point only retards and grifters are left on your side
Step 5: Claim you are winning in a state of pure delusion
Step 6: Repeat
 
You know that saying about everyone you meet being an asshole? Maybe Russia and you should think on that. Now that I think of it Russia and Ethan Ralph really are more similar than one would initially think, especially in terms of their handling of relationships
Step 1: Do something really fucking stupid that pisses everyone around you off
Step 2: Throw a shitfit when people call you a retard for your idiotic behavior
Step 3: Claim everyone is betraying you and that they attacked first to provoke you
Step 4: Burn every bridge to the point only retards and grifters are left on your side
Step 5: Claim you are winning in a state of pure delusion
Step 6: Repeat
Great description of America's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan from 2001 leading up to today, but what does that have to do with Ukraine?
 
That probably explains why Russia has to take out mothballed tanks while not having as many T-90Ms as the West predicted.

Again, GDP is important, because it shows how much money your war chest has, and how much you can spend on things like tanks, planes, the navy, and so on.
The bit that seemed funky to me was the idea that it was mostly those that would have been really corrupt in the Soviet era that would have had the money saved up to buy up stock in companies after everyone just had it handed out to them. Plus just the idea everyone had this stock handed out to them and they just gave it up, not necessarily seeing the value in it.

It's like reading stories of people buying a drink a decade ago for 1,000 bitcoin. Except they should have been able to gain insight as to how valuable stock could be given how it had been around in other countries for ages. It demonstrates a weird level of ignorance among Russians as to how companies should operate.

It would mean their core industries that make up the bulk of the Russian economy are run by people that historically have no knowledge of how to naturally improve a company and instead were focused on how to cheat their way into having control of the company. Like the bit about selling themselves resources at a loss to the core company, but giving them the opportunity to sell it to third party companies for regular prices to enrich themselves a ridiculous amount. That's not even sophisticated corruption, that's fucking retarded corruption you'd imagine a child dreaming up.
 
Yeah it is, and Russias doing the same retarded shit right now. But you'll defend it because you're a retarded contrarian who has no consistency in terms of views.
Iraq and Afghanistan weren't shelling American people for 8 years before America decided to get involved. Iraq and Afghanistan do not have a significant American population that has been systematically targeted by the local government. Oh and Iraq and Afghanistan did not threaten to get nuclear weapons so they could use them on America. Makes sense?
 
If they're both orcs, then the Russians are LOTR Orcs because they're pillaging and destroying a sovereign nation, while the Ukrainians are like the Warcraft Orcs under Thrall: honorable and just looking to find their way to living well.
Oh look at you you even started to consoom.
 
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It says something when the French have provided more useful aid (2 arty batteries with fire control linked into Ukrainian systems and MILAN and hand held AT) than the GermansG

German tokenism:
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Germany will sent vehicles to Greece who'll send BMPs to Ukraine

I saw one Youtube vid of the Victory Day in Moscow, and watching were quite a few smug looking, well dressed young men, who didn't look fearful of conscription or a hard day's work for that matter. Presumably these would be Moscow University University students (it has a fine languages department), who like their Tsar in Leningrad University, will at most will be just messing around, playing at soldiers in some officer training corp, but likely not. Instead they post bellicose stuff online or say nothing. Also those old vatniks can back their words now (given the age limit but that might need to increase to 60), but won't. Instead mostly poor men from the poorest areas of Russia will fight and die for a pittance. Unfortunately given their unsoldierly conduct, they are not deserving of much respect or pity, unless they surrender, walk off, or sabotage, which some do. Allegedly some might be contemplating desertion for June as that's when their contracts supposedly run out. Still I don't see too may instances of 'hacking the system' as Kamil Galeev call it in reference to the National Guards who refused to cross as they lacked passports. He liken it to onetime nobleman in St Petersberg, who on hearing he might be purged, robbed a smart store and waited for the police, and enjoyed the relative (compared to deaths by murder and starvation in the gulag, which itself is a parallel to the German concentration camps where criminals had a comfier time of it) safety of penal colonies alongside hardened crims.

This is what Putin supporters endorse:



This is what Putin supporters tacitly endorse or blame Ukrainians (the well known image of a store in Mariupol used as an improvised morgue, likely any jewellery was stolen, with that often found on dead Russians, but unlike with the dead Russians left in railway cars, unclaimed by Russia, bodies are not looted) for:



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‼️Маріуполь. Чергові страшні знахідки.
В приміщенні супермаркету «Щирий кум» в Лівобережному районі по пр. Свободи росіяни облаштували трупозвалище. Буквально. Сюди росіяни звозять тіла загиблих, що вимило з могли при спробі відновлення водопостачання та частково - ексгумованих. Просто звалюють, наче сміття. Катастрофічна нехватка людей для захоронення та потужності навіть імпровізованих моргів. До такого ступеню, що в Москві розпочали окрему рекрутингову кампанію паталогоанатомів.
Фото свіже. Наочна демонстрація нелюдства та загроз епідемії.

(право власності на фото ТГ «Мариуполь сейчас» з позначкою вільне для розповсюдження)
‼ ️Mariupol. Another terrible discovery.
In the premises of the supermarket "Sincere Godfather" in the Left Bank district on Svobody Avenue, the Russians set up a cadaver. Literally. The Russians are bringing the bodies of the dead here, which they washed away when they tried to restore the water supply and partially exhumed them. They just dump it like garbage. There is a catastrophic shortage of people to bury and power even makeshift mortuaries. To such an extent that a separate recruitment campaign of pathologists was launched in Moscow.
Photo fresh. Visual demonstration of inhumanity and threats of the epidemic.

(ownership of the photo of TG "Mariupol now" marked free for distribution)
The gullible or ill willed blame it on the 'Nazis' when Azov Reg were an heroic largely civnat special army unit. They are easily more Russian state employees and soldiers with far worse tattoos, posted earlier. I hope the brave men of Azov survive their maltreatment, including torture and being forced to make statements., including under the guise of supposed lawyer approved statements as had happened with the UK citizen Kurd. Given that Russians led by you know who-ish gangsters engineered in the Holmodor the slaughter and starvation of millions. Khrushchev perhaps had a bad conscience when he transferred Crimea, taken in the reign of a German woman ruling Russia who died mating with a horse, to Ukraine SSR.



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Iraq and Afghanistan weren't shelling American people for 8 years before America decided to get involved. Iraq and Afghanistan do not have a significant American population that has been systematically targeted by the local government. Oh and Iraq and Afghanistan did not threaten to get nuclear weapons so they could use them on America. Makes sense?
Last time I checked the Donbass wasn't part of Russia, and no putting a bunch of soldiers into an area and then holding a "vote" with soldiers standing next to the voters with loaded rifles isn't exactly a trustworthy referendum. But hey, let me guess you probably believe the bombings used as an excuse for the Chechen war was totally legit too right? Because a glownigger in charge would never ever stage a false flag to justify a war right? Now, I'm going to ask you 3 questions that I've asked multiple times over the last 3 months and have not gotten a single good answer from any of you idiots. If you cannot answer them I reccomend you take up auto-erotic asphyxiation with no safety measures. It's not like you can embarrass your parents any further.

1: When has Russia ever been a good country?
2: How exactly are Nazis in a different country a threat to Russia when they have not attacked Russian soil?
3: If Nazis are the problem, why not just infiltrate/assassinate them? Much better solution than invading an entire country.
 
Last time I checked the Donbass wasn't part of Russia, and no putting a bunch of soldiers into an area and then holding a "vote" with soldiers standing next to the voters with loaded rifles isn't exactly a trustworthy referendum.
Right, and you read about that on MSN News and uncritically believed it like a good burger.

But hey, let me guess you probably believe the bombings used as an excuse for the Chechen war was totally legit too right? Because a glownigger in charge would never ever stage a false flag to justify a war right? Now, I'm going to ask you 3 questions that I've asked multiple times over the last 3 months and have not gotten a single good answer from any of you idiots.

1: When has Russia ever been a good country?
By what standard, and can that same standard be applied to America?
2: How exactly are Nazis in a different country a threat to Russia when they have not attacked Russian soil?
If you have cancer, do you treat it before it spreads, or after? Also, coming from an American, that's a rich take.
3: If Nazis are the problem, why not just infiltrate/assassinate them? Much better solution than invading an entire country.
You seem to be utterly convinced there are only a dozen or so nazis in Ukraine and that nazism is not a state-backed ideology that was spread by NATO. I'll just let you meditate over that one.
 
Right, and you read about that on MSN News and uncritically believed it like a good burger.
You seem to be utterly convinced there are only a dozen or so nazis in Ukraine and that nazism is not a state-backed ideology that was spread by NATO. I'll just let you meditate over that one.
Lol. The absolute state of vatniks.
 
Right, and you read about that on MSN News and uncritically believed it like a good burger.


By what standard, and can that same standard be applied to America?

If you have cancer, do you treat it before it spreads, or after? Also, coming from an American, that's a rich take.

You seem to be utterly convinced there are only a dozen or so nazis in Ukraine and that nazism is not a state-backed ideology that was spread by NATO. I'll just let you meditate over that one.
Don't read MSN, and no reading Russian MSM is no better than reading western MSM retard. But hey, let me guess your argument is "muh ethnic Russians" right? Well ok, let's see what happens if China holds a "vote" in all those chink majority areas in "Russia" with assistance from the PLA. How will Putin respond? Surely he wouldn't hypocritically whine about it right?

By the standard most people aren't starving, 10 percent of the population doesn't have tuberculosis, people aren't being stuffed into gulags, the people actually have a say in how things are run, the country isn't ruled by the fucking mob. Now I know you're gonna say some dumb shit about how "hurr durr that sounds like America" and sure, but there has been points in US history where that hasn't been the case, whereas there hasn't for Russia.

If my neighbor has cancer that doesn't give me the right to bust down their door and LARP as a surgeon after downing a fifth of vodka and pepto bismol soup.

Funny, since you know if Putin just assassinated or infiltrated the organizations nobody would care in fact most people would be A OK with it, but because he invaded nobody gives a shit that they're nazis now except jew dickslurpers like you.
 
Lol. The absolute state of vatniks.
zigga please
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Don't read MSN, and no reading Russian MSM is no better than reading western MSM retard. But hey, let me guess your argument is "muh ethnic Russians" right? Well ok, let's see what happens if China holds a "vote" in all those chink majority areas in "Russia" with assistance from the PLA. How will Putin respond? Surely he wouldn't hypocritically whine about it right?

By the standard most people aren't starving, 10 percent of the population doesn't have tuberculosis, people aren't being stuffed into gulags, the people actually have a say in how things are run, the country isn't ruled by the fucking mob. Now I know you're gonna say some dumb shit about how "hurr durr that sounds like America" and sure, but there has been points in US history where that hasn't been the case, whereas there hasn't for Russia.

If my neighbor has cancer that doesn't give me the right to bust down their door and LARP as a surgeon after downing a fifth of vodka and pepto bismol soup.

Funny, since you know if Putin just assassinated or infiltrated the organizations nobody would care in fact most people would be A OK with it, but because he invaded nobody gives a shit that they're nazis now except jew dickslurpers like you.
Just answer me one thing. What right did America have to interfere in Ukraine's elections in 2014?
 
None, what right does Russia have to do it either? Oh and hey, man since you love Israel so much can you please tell me why you're such a Nazi?
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I guess in that case if Russia installs a puppet president in Mexico and starts placing nuclear missiles there, you won't have a problem with it either, right?

Why does it bother you so much that nazis are being put in ditches in Ukraine? Suddenly remembering grandpa's stories about felling lumber in Siberia after the war?
 
I guess in that case if Russia installs a puppet president in Mexico and starts placing nuclear missiles there, you won't have a problem with it either, right?

Why does it bother you so much that nazis are being put in ditches in Ukraine? Suddenly remembering grandpa's stories about felling lumber in Siberia after the war?
What part of neither group has the right to interfere in elections are you unable to comprehend? Learn how to read.

It doesn't bother me, I'd think it would bother you more though since you suck the cock of Israel so much, you know a state that was created with the help of Hitler.
 
What part of neither group has the right to interfere in elections are you unable to comprehend? Learn how to read.

It doesn't bother me, I'd think it would bother you more though since you suck the cock of Israel so much, you know a state that was created with the help of Hitler.
You really don't understand that actions lead to reactions? America installed a puppet president in Ukraine in 2014 and started pumping weapons into Ukraine and legitimizing nazism as an ideology, brainwashing the population and turning them into fanatics. If Russia hadn't conducted the special military operation to slaughter all the NATO-financed scum, the next step would've been a Ukrainian dirty bomb attack against Russian civilians. Since America would've been seen as 100% responsible for that, the only appropriate reaction would've been a nuclear strike on Washington DC. Actions lead to reactions. Fuck around and find out.

Anyway, no offense to the burgers here, but you kind of caused this situation. Be glad it didn't get nuclear.

Back to articles, Posobiec has some theories why Ukrainian soldiers have to use Maxim machineguns and other WW1-era equipment, and why Western humanitarian aid ends up on supermarket shelves in Lvov. On an unrelated note, my cousin in Tel Aviv just got a shipment of body armor and Javelin missiles for sale, anyone interested?

This is a good one too. Should the EU drop the sanctions and save themselves? The Guardian thinks so.
 
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