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[supdup]

"No one here believes anything you say. "

Good, then stop mentioning any of it anymore and judge things on the merits of what the facts are.

I agree. The problem is, you never state facts with supporting evidence and a logical argument that demonstrates that your conclusion is the most logical. Instead, you state your opinions (i.e assertions) based on a very limited knowledge base. This is where learning critical-thinking would help you.

But when I didn't know that I knew you couldn't have seen at as unpleasant because modern Western women want to have their nasal cavity smashed by an axe and feces inserted in it. Men who do that are kings and men who want serious relationships scum.

To you, somebody who shoots a woman in the head is a god. Even liberal women will be attracted by whites who do so, despite the religion telling them to hate them.

This is a purely hyperbolic rant.

 

[SlayerOfTyranny]

This is a purely hyperbolic rant.

Watch as progressives make a video more concerned about defending muslims and islam than they are about condemning muslim rapists and protecting women from them.

Additionally note that the finger is pointed at the false supposed rape culture in the United States to misdirect the discussion from the atrocities committed by asylum seekers.

Also note that progressives believe and express in this video that the muslim culture and severe oppression of women is totally fine and they respect it.

They just make the point that the muslims have to learn to integrate into the new culture rather than condemning muslim oppression of women.

Nowhere in the video do the progressive hosts make any attempt to condemn and reject the rapist refugees.

They give them nothing but leeway tolerance and understanding.

They actually make the case that it's just because they aren't adapted to the new culture yet and simply need some cultural education classes rather than to be held accountable for their disgusting actions.

If any straight white male were to do any of the things to women that are common place and normal in the middle east then the liberals/progressives would eat them alive and call for them to be sent to prison.

But when muslims do it it's ok and to say different is xenophobia,islamphobia,and racism.

They are a protected class.That is an objective fact.

This is why people are pissed supdup.Women are getting raped and liberals/progressives don't give a shit.

Even more importantly millions of women are severely oppressed in the middle east but liberals/progressives never discuss the issue nor condemn this oppression.

They are too busy going after fake white male "rapists" and "rape culture" along with "islamophobia" and "racism" to care.

 

[GS 281]

REMEMBER

1. Women want to be raped.
2. Women want to be killed.
3. Women want to be maimed.

They hate consent, respect and intelligence.

If a woman stays alive - a guy won't.

Women want to have their legs broken and be then shot in the head.

If niggers and Guatos do it these are sacred acts by liberals. They'd never be punishable if it were up to them but considered exotic, wild and due to stresses minorities suffer.

Despite all this, you are still more intelligent and grounded in reality than the topic of out PM chain this morning. Cheers.

 

[Strelok]

You can't dislike white men raping while lionizing niggers who cut off a woman's head or a Guato who peppers a woman with bullets.

Dude Durka Durka Sand Niggers and Dindu Niggers are different, use the right terms at least.

 

[supdup]

Watch as progressives make a video more concerned about defending muslims and islam than they are about condemning muslim rapists and protecting women from them.

Additionally note that the finger is pointed at the false supposed rape culture in the United States to misdirect the discussion from the atrocities committed by asylum seekers.

Also note that progressives believe and express in this video that the muslim culture and severe oppression of women is totally fine and they respect it.

They just make the point that the muslims have to learn to integrate into the new culture rather than condemning muslim oppression of women.

Nowhere in the video do the progressive hosts make any attempt to condemn and reject the rapist refugees.

They give them nothing but leeway tolerance and understanding.

They actually make the case that it's just because they aren't adapted to the new culture yet and simply need some cultural education classes rather than to be held accountable for their disgusting actions.

If any straight white male were to do any of the things to women that are common place and normal in the middle east then the liberals/progressives would eat them alive and call for them to be sent to prison.

But when muslims do it it's ok and to say different is xenophobia,islamphobia,and racism.

They are a protected class.That is an objective fact.

This is why people are pissed supdup.Women are getting raped and liberals/progressives don't give a shit.

Even more importantly millions of women are severely oppressed in the middle east but liberals/progressives never discuss the issue nor condemn this oppression.

They are too busy going after fake white male "rapists" and "rape culture" along with "islamophobia" and "racism" to care.

First, are you using this to say that Fuckbot's statement that "women want their nasal cavities smashed by an axe" is not a hyperbolic statement? If not, then I don't understand the relationship between this and my complaint that Fuckbot only talks in hyperbole and hubris.

I read what you wrote and watched the video, not sure you saw the same video. I'll agree, they weren't exactly condemning all muslims like you think they should, but I think you're reading into more than what was there. For example, you say that the people in this video think "the muslim culture and severe oppression of women is totally fine and they respect it." Toward the beginning one of the hosts said when you come from a country that oppresses women, then some of those people are going to commit these acts and there is a huge difference between these two cultures. She said that there are laws that these refugees need to follow and she condemns any one with those ideologies in this country or other countries. Did you miss that part?

You're like a conservative radio host who takes anything other than stern objection as total support. No nuance, no room for a middle ground. "If you don't hate muslims, you must totally love them and support everything they do". That is sloppy thinking.

Now about the US rape culture. Since rape mostly goes unreported, neither you nor I can present any definitive conclusions. Anecdotally, I know too many women who have been sexually assaulted and not think something is amiss in our culture. But I agree that the statistics don't necessarily support the conclusion that there is a culture of rape in the US.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Dynastia, Jews and Slaves are seen as same white scum as other whites.

Jews are smart and thus were always able to make good money and be seen as privileged by degenerates. I read somewhere that Jews would come to US with no knowledge of English and make the same money Anglosaxon people did in a relatively short time. Niggers never did - some of the reasons for this aren't just segregation and culture.

Slavs are basically regarded as Russians by moron Americans. So they'll be treated as some communist countries with poor infrastructure, which is nonsense. I've often been told by liberal imbeciles that we lack necessary mental health or whatever. Ummm, in fact it's much better than in America, since shrinks here aren't liberals and wouldn't, say, imprison you the moment you admitted of some things. It's just that they can't help you kill and hunt women and can't make you no longer desire women just like they can't make you no longer desire water or air. Lol, the idea that therapy will help you get a gf. That's like saying learning philosophy would help you swat flies. A nail to the head would do better, Besides, even if one was no longer to desire women they'd still see other good men desiring them and suffering while being demonized for their suffering. All the while sacred classes are free to do what they will.
There is no possibility that Slavs would have ever been treated as Guatos or niggers had they somehow arrived in America in tens of millions. They're smarter than these groups and are on level of most other white non-Jews. They'd be something like Italians, I guess.

 

[VLAD]

Dynastia, Jews and Slaves are seen as same white scum as other whites.

Jews are smart and thus were always able to make good money and be seen as privileged by degenerates. I read somewhere that Jews would come to US with no knowledge of English and make the same money Anglosaxon people did in a relatively short time. Niggers never did - some of the reasons for this aren't just segregation and culture.

Slavs are basically regarded as Russians by moron Americans. So they'll be treated as some communist countries with poor infrastructure, which is nonsense. I've often been told by liberal imbeciles that we lack necessary mental health or whatever. Ummm, in fact it's much better than in America, since shrinks here aren't liberals and wouldn't, say, imprison you the moment you admitted of some things. It's just that they can't help you kill and hunt women and can't make you no longer desire women just like they can't make you no longer desire water or air. Lol, the idea that therapy will help you get a gf. That's like saying learning philosophy would help you swat flies. A nail to the head would do better, Besides, even if one was no longer to desire women they'd still see other good men desiring them and suffering while being demonized for their suffering. All the while sacred classes are free to do what they will.
There is no possibility that Slavs would have ever been treated as Guatos or niggers had they somehow arrived in America in tens of millions. They're smarter than these groups and are on level of most other white non-Jews. They'd be something like Italians, I guess.

TOMALO TOMALO TOMALO

 

[Vauxhall13]

REMEMBER

1. Women want to be raped.
2. Women want to be killed.
3. Women want to be maimed.

But I've never been raped, maimed or killed. What am I doing wrong??

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

"I read what you wrote and watched the video, not sure you saw the same video. I'll agree, they weren't exactly condemning all muslims like you think they should, but I think you're reading into more than what was there. For example, you say that the people in this video think "the muslim culture and severe oppression of women is totally fine and they respect it." Toward the beginning one of the hosts said when you come from a country that oppresses women, then some of those people are going to commit these acts and there is a huge difference between these two cultures. She said that there are laws that these refugees need to follow and she condemns any one with those ideologies in this country or other countries. Did you miss that part?"

How convenient that you should ignore everything that doesn't fit your pattern but emphasize everything that does. A trivial example of that is how I said my first gf said she'd object but I had to take her anyway (thereby, to rape her) and you turned this into "she said you should take the initiative".

Umm, no. She said I should have raped her, ie taken initiative with her defending.

"I know too many women who have been sexually assaulted and not think something is amiss in our culture. "

And there is, and that is that women love rape.

Talking about Slavs, here was this crazy woman once who said men get one year in prison for killing a woman here. Ummm, no, in fact they mostly get zero years and much respect, while men who want a serious relationships get canned. Just like in the West.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

"I read what you wrote and watched the video, not sure you saw the same video. I'll agree, they weren't exactly condemning all muslims like you think they should, but I think you're reading into more than what was there. For example, you say that the people in this video think "the muslim culture and severe oppression of women is totally fine and they respect it." Toward the beginning one of the hosts said when you come from a country that oppresses women, then some of those people are going to commit these acts and there is a huge difference between these two cultures. She said that there are laws that these refugees need to follow and she condemns any one with those ideologies in this country or other countries. Did you miss that part?"

How convenient that you should ignore everything that doesn't fit your pattern but emphasize everything that does. A trivial example of that is how I said my first gf said she'd object but I had to take her anyway (thereby, to rape her) and you turned this into "she said you should take the initiative".

Umm, no. She said I should have raped her, ie taken initiative with her defending.

"I know too many women who have been sexually assaulted and not think something is amiss in our culture. "

And there is, and that is that women love rape.

Talking about Slavs, here was this crazy woman once who said men get one year in prison for killing a woman here. Ummm, no, in fact they mostly get zero years and much respect, while men who want a serious relationships get canned. Just like in the West.

Do they not teach proper paragraph structure in third world countries? Is it an MRA thing?

 

[systemlord_baal]

Do they not teach proper paragraph structure in third world countries? Is it an MRA thing?

Since when is Croatia a 3rd world country. Marjan didn't become head of state there yet.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

But I've never been raped, maimed or killed. What am I doing wrong??

Nothing. It's men who are doing something wrong.

I was speaking to a German woman of the age 40 following me recently. She hasn't really encountered Muslims, living in German countryside. So what happened? Did she find a German husband? Of course not. She's a spinster who is called the "watcher of life" by others.

She had been naturally repelled by disgusting, degenerate German men and was left barren and alone. It's kinda similar to that bitch Merkel, who has a husband but also never had any kids.

Women are disgusted by degenerate Western men who have no kids. Because, as I always say, women have only one criteria of attraction - how successful is the man reproductively? Everything else doesn't matter.

And, yes, of course women will like men who earn money if they're successful reproductively but in order for that to happen they have to be financially dependent on men, lest they start hating them.

Men, in a state of nature, rape constantly without contraceptives.
Imagine raising kids in such an environment!
Remember: Kids need to survive until maturity in order to pass on their genes.

Raising kids in such a society was a disaster. And that's why patriarchy, ie making women the property of men (among other things) is when we started progressing.

The kind of reproduction we have right know (and had been having since even 1970s in some parts of the West) actually predates agricultural societies of any kind.

And you wonder why this society is such a joke.

And you know what that German woman told me? She said that she doesn't blame men.

I told her she damn well should.

It's men who gave women rights that they're not equipped to handle.

 

[Vauxhall13]

Women are disgusted by degenerate Western men who have no kids. Because, as I always say, women have only one criteria of attraction - how successful is the man reproductively? Everything else doesn't matter.

LMAO.....alrighty then....

And you wonder why this society is such a joke.

I never said it was. You did.

 

[systemlord_baal]

Ja pierdole... Is this guy for realz (Poe's Law, huh?)??

 

[supdup]

"

How convenient that you should ignore everything that doesn't fit your pattern but emphasize everything that does.

What that person said in that video is completely the opposite of what @SlayerOfTyranny said they said. I merely gave an example using his words and then their words to demonstrate he was only seeing what he wanted to see. I'm not going to go through a 13-minute video and recap everything for someone who fails to comprehend nuances arguments and only sees in black-and-white.

A trivial example of that is how I said my first gf said she'd object but I had to take her anyway (thereby, to rape her) and you turned this into "she said you should take the initiative". Umm, no. She said I should have raped her, ie taken initiative with her defending

If she wanted you to fuck her, it's not rape. Besides, I don't trust that you comprehend the words people say to you in the way they were meant. Until she comes here and confirms the story, it's either you misunderstood her, you're lying or her screws are almost as loose as yours.

And there is, and that is that women love rape.

Talking about Slavs, here was this crazy woman once who said men get one year in prison for killing a woman here. Ummm, no, in fact they mostly get zero years and much respect, while men who want a serious relationships get canned. Just like in the West.

You must provide evidence that supports these conclusions and an argument that demonstrates your conclusion is the most logical. Otherwise, your words are worthless.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

Nothing. It's men who are doing something wrong.

I was speaking to a German woman of the age 40 following me recently. She hasn't really encountered Muslims, living in German countryside. So what happened? Did she find a German husband? Of course not. She's a spinster who is called the "watcher of life" by others.

She had been naturally repelled by disgusting, degenerate German men and was left barren and alone. It's kinda similar to that bitch Merkel, who has a husband but also never had any kids.

Women are disgusted by degenerate Western men who have no kids. Because, as I always say, women have only one criteria of attraction - how successful is the man reproductively? Everything else doesn't matter.

And, yes, of course women will like men who earn money if they're successful reproductively but in order for that to happen they have to be financially dependent on men, lest they start hating them.

Men, in a state of nature, rape constantly without contraceptives.
Imagine raising kids in such an environment!
Remember: Kids need to survive until maturity in order to pass on their genes.

Raising kids in such a society was a disaster. And that's why patriarchy, ie making women the property of men (among other things) is when we started progressing.

The kind of reproduction we have right know (and had been having since even 1970s in some parts of the West) actually predates agricultural societies of any kind.

And you wonder why this society is such a joke.

Guy who's never met a brother judging others for meeting people. That shit's just crazy. #WhiteNonsense

 

[4Macie]

I'm not rating @systemlord_baal dumb because he's new but c'mon. Do you have some kind of learning disability?

Well...I'm kinda thinking you have the disability at this point...

 

[Andy27]

REMEMBER

1. Women want to be raped.
2. Women want to be killed.
3. Women want to be maimed.

They hate consent, respect and intelligence.

If a woman stays alive - a guy won't.

Women want to have their legs broken and be then shot in the head.

If niggers and Guatos do it these are sacred acts by liberals. They'd never be punishable if it were up to them but considered exotic, wild and due to stresses minorities suffer.

I wasn't taking your posts seriously but now that you are using red letters and a slightly bigger font for your main points, I'm completely convinced.

 

[SlayerOfTyranny]

Short version:

Why won't liberals and progressives address and denounce the widespread mass extreme oppression of women in the middle east?It's great hypocrisy that undermines their validity completely.

First, are you using this to say that Fuckbot's statement that "women want their nasal cavities smashed by an axe" is not a hyperbolic statement? If not, then I don't understand the relationship between this and my complaint that Fuckbot only talks in hyperbole and hubris.

Fair enough.That is certainly an extreme statement.

But aren't you being hyperbolic as well?

Even though the statements Marjan is making are excessive and extreme they aren't without any underlying truth.

This is a big thing with you that makes interacting with you difficult that I have already said before.

You like to be extremely technical whereas I generally prefer to argue and think in metaphors and analogy and that's usually how I express myself.

But for you everything has to be a 100% literal affair that is perfectly proven and substantiated at every turn or else by your standards it is invalid and incorrect and you will discard it.

I read what you wrote and watched the video, not sure you saw the same video. I'll agree, they weren't exactly condemning all muslims like you think they should, but I think you're reading into more than what was there. For example, you say that the people in this video think "the muslim culture and severe oppression of women is totally fine and they respect it." Toward the beginning one of the hosts said when you come from a country that oppresses women, then some of those people are going to commit these acts and there is a huge difference between these two cultures. She said that there are laws that these refugees need to follow and she condemns any one with those ideologies in this country or other countries. Did you miss that part?

Well this is good.At least we are having a actual reasonable discussion right now which is about as juicy for me as a lolcow probably is for you.

I am going to rewatch the video and give you real time interpretation of it so that you can see why I took it the way I did and why I disagree with you.

First she talks about what happened and just states the facts of the situation.That's fine nothing bad there.

Then she says it's unclear if they actually did anything wrong.That's also fair although it's already hypocritical since I'd bet that if the situation involved say white males at a college she'd probably adopt a guilty until proven innocent strategy.However I have no evidence to back up that statement objectively at this point so I will concede that right now.

Then she states the facts about germany letting in 1.1 million refugees and what Angela Merkel's response to the rapes by the refugees in this particular case has been.

Ok that's fine.She just stated some facts.

But right after that is when the spin and propaganda begins.Literally right after the facts get stated.Beginning at 2:10 in the video.

Her first statement is (not verbatim but accurate representations of what she is saying)- "This is not a representation of all islams".Slippery slope introduced.

Then she says "If people come from a culture where women who aren't covered are considered "asking for it" to a culture like Germany then they inevitably will rape some people.It's really a huge cultural difference that needs to be addressed".Notice that she makes no mention of the Muslim culture being wrong they are just "different".

Then the black anchor says "We do need to worry about wheter a safe environment is being created.But we need to make sure that people do not start to judge refugees and Islam off the actions of these small amount of men who are doing these things.Rapes were probably being committed by the native population before these guys ever arrived so we shouldn't judge the Refugees and Islam as a whole based off the actions of these few".Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression in the middle east by my knowledge.

Next female anchor says "We need to create a education program and require refugees to go through it before they are accepted to teach them about our culture."

And now here is her quote verbatim this time right after that:

"The education program is basically getting them accustomed to the cultural differences in this european country.So the way that you treat women in our country is very different from the way that women are treated in your country.You know not to you know violate your own beliefs or whatever but these are our laws and you have to follow our laws."

This part really stuck out to me.Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women in the middle east.In fact it's the opposite here.It's respect for it.

The trend continues after this.There is no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women.It's all about just making the refugees follow the laws while they are in the country.That's as far as it goes.

There is no way you can be intellectually honest at this point and ignore this glaring hypocrisy here.

I literally rewatched the whole entire video a second time to see if I could catch one,just one condemnation of oppression of women in the middle east.I couldn't find a single one.But I could find condemnation of a US rape culture.There is also plenty of praise and acceptance of Islam.

She also ironically laments the rolling stone rape hoax as making people become skeptical to the claims of women that they have been raped but that's exactly what she does at the start of the video in relation to the women raped by the Muslim refugees.So make up your mind Ana,which is it?

Also they talk about how Muslims don't have a rape culture (false) but the US does.So remember the argument they make that only a small number of refugees rape?Well so does a small number of US white men.So how come the US has a "rape" culture but Muslims do not?

The comedian even tries to claim he "doesn't know enough about Muslim culture" to say if it's a rape culture or not.Huh?

Ana Kasparian even says and I quote:

I don't think their culture is "rapey".

She was referring to Muslim culture by the way.

Toward the beginning one of the hosts said when you come from a country that oppresses women, then some of those people are going to commit these acts and there is a huge difference between these two cultures. She said that there are laws that these refugees need to follow and she condemns any one with those ideologies in this country or other countries. Did you miss that part?

I rewatched the clip and so should anyone else before they listen to you.You misrepresented this to fit your bias here.That is not an accurate representation of what was said.

They don't address oppression of women in the middle east they just address that you are expected to cover up there or you are asking for it.That's it.

To them in this video they literally verbatim claim that US rape culture is a bigger deal than Muslim rape culture.Come on now.

I am literally asking you supdup in the name of intellectual honesty,how can you not admit the glaring hypocrisy here for any reason other than bias and ego and the need to preserve a delusion?

All I am asking for is liberals/progressives to be fair and just.That's it.But they are not.

 

[CatParty]

Short version:

Why won't liberals and progressives address and denounce the widespread mass extreme oppression of women in the middle east?It's great hypocrisy that undermines their validity completely.




Fair enough.That is certainly an extreme statement.

But aren't you being hyperbolic as well?

Even though the statements Marjan is making are excessive and extreme they aren't without any underlying truth.

This is a big thing with you that makes interacting with you difficult that I have already said before.

You like to be extremely technical whereas I generally prefer to argue and think in metaphors and analogy and that's usually how I express myself.

But for you everything has to be a 100% literal affair that is perfectly proven and substantiated at every turn or else by your standards it is invalid and incorrect and you will discard it.



Well this is good.At least we are having a actual reasonable discussion right now which is about as juicy for me as a lolcow probably is for you.

I am going to rewatch the video and give you real time interpretation of it so that you can see why I took it the way I did and why I disagree with you.

First she talks about what happened and just states the facts of the situation.That's fine nothing bad there.

Then she says it's unclear if they actually did anything wrong.That's also fair although it's already hypocritical since I'd bet that if the situation involved say white males at a college she'd probably adopt a guilty until proven innocent strategy.However I have no evidence to back up that statement objectively at this point so I will concede that right now.

Then she states the facts about germany letting in 1.1 million refugees and what Angela Merkel's response to the rapes by the refugees in this particular case has been.

Ok that's fine.She just stated some facts.

But right after that is when the spin and propaganda begins.Literally right after the facts get stated.Beginning at 2:10 in the video.

Her first statement is (not verbatim but accurate representations of what she is saying)- "This is not a representation of all islams".Slippery slope introduced.

Then she says "If people come from a culture where women who aren't covered are considered "asking for it" to a culture like Germany then they inevitably will rape some people.It's really a huge cultural difference that needs to be addressed".Notice that she makes no mention of the Muslim culture being wrong they are just "different".

Then the black anchor says "We do need to worry about wheter a safe environment is being created.But we need to make sure that people do not start to judge refugees and Islam off the actions of these small amount of men who are doing these things.Rapes were probably being committed by the native population before these guys ever arrived so we shouldn't judge the Refugees and Islam as a whole based off the actions of these few".Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression in the middle east by my knowledge.

Next female anchor says "We need to create a education program and require refugees to go through it before they are accepted to teach them about our culture."

And now here is her quote verbatim this time right after that:

"The education program is basically getting them accustomed to the cultural differences in this european country.So the way that you treat women in our country is very different from the way that women are treated in your country.You know not to know violate your own beliefs or whatever but these are our laws and you have to follow our laws."

This part really stuck out to me.Still no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women in the middle east.In fact it's the opposite here.It's respect for it.

The trend continues after this.There is no condemnation of Muslim oppression of women.It's all about just making the refugees follow the laws while they are in the country.That's as far as it goes.

There is no way you can be intellectually honest at this point and ignore this glaring hypocrisy here.

I literally rewatched the whole entire video a second time to see if I could catch one,just one condemnation of oppression of women in the middle east.I couldn't find a single one.But I could find condemnation of a US rape culture.There is also plenty of praise and acceptance of Islam.

She also ironically laments the rolling stone rape hoax as making people become skeptical to the claims of women that they have been raped but that's exactly what she does at the start of the video in relation to the women raped by the Muslim refugees.So make up your mind Ana,which is it?

Also they talk about how Muslims don't have a rape culture (false) but the US does.So remember the argument they make that only a small number of refugees rape?Well so does a small number of US white men.So how come the US has a "rape" culture but Muslims do not?

The comedian even tries to claim he "doesn't know enough about Muslim culture" to say if it's a rape culture or not.Huh?

Ana Kasparian even says and I quote:

I don't think their culture is "rapey".

She was referring to Muslim culture by the way.



I rewatched the clip and so should anyone else before they listen to you.You misrepresented this to fit your bias here.That is not an accurate representation of what was said.

They don't address oppression of women in the middle east they just address that you are expected to cover up there or you are asking for it.That's it.

To them in this video they literally verbatim claim that US rape culture is a bigger deal than Muslim rape culture.Come on now.

I am literally asking you supdup in the name of intellectual honesty,how can you not admit the glaring hypocrisy here for any reason other than bias and ego and the need to preserve a delusion?

All I am asking for is liberals/progressives to be fair and just.That's it.But they are not.

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