How do I prep for famine?

[comfysocks]

Learn about vertical gardening. You can just cut the top off a gallon milk container, fill it with dirt and stick a potato in it. Then stick it against a wall. Rows and rows of potatoes. Vertical farming mushrooms is delicious and if you get the right spores (psychedelic or just the expensive foodie ones) you can make a decent profit.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Become a deathfat. No one will be able to steal your supply because you'll be wearing it.

* sees avatar. Surprised you didn't think of this yourself.

Yeah, you gotta pack up on the reserves to keep you going.

 

[Lee Crabb]

Dried rice, beans and lentils. All of them are cheap, versatile, easy to portion, easy to prepare, and last forever.

Anything marketed to preppers is a scam. You don't want to be that guy who's constipated when the end of the world comes because you fell for the $15 canned hamburger meme.

I guess I lucked out then. I could eat rice and beans 7 days a week no problem.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I guess I lucked out then. I could eat rice and beans 7 days a week no problem.

Same. I love rice and beans. Keep a good selection of seasonings and spices around and you'll be eating like a king.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Okay, so I was looking up pemmican again today and I found out, to my shock, that the Mormon church, that I spent one year in college with, has a special commissary. Wasn't raised in it, haven't set foot in one in half a decade, but Salt Lake City owns my soul now, on paper, so technically I have the right to milk that for all it's worth.

Why rambling about it here? Well, it's a commissary, a members' church. They're a race of preppers, basically the Far Cry 5 cult in real life. (I suspect it was based more on them than on Jonestown, which they claimed.) So I could buy, out of pocket today, a years worth of food for under one thousand dollars. It's amazing. It has to be cooked, of course, with water; not MREs or the like but just regular dried out food.

Just need to know what the proper ratios of milk, beans, and potatoes are. Maybe add some pemmican to as a luxury. Shit that can sit in my apartment for twenty-nine years and never be used and still have been worth it if before year thirty the world ends.

Learn about vertical gardening. You can just cut the top off a gallon milk container, fill it with dirt and stick a potato in it. Then stick it against a wall. Rows and rows of potatoes. Vertical farming mushrooms is delicious and if you get the right spores (psychedelic or just the expensive foodie ones) you can make a decent profit.

This is a really good idea, not for end of the world (nobody is going to survive off of a small plot), but because I like toppings like tomato and mushrooms and herbs but dislike buying it in stores where it always comes in a scale larger than I need.

Can a person grow truffles, you know? I know you can farm ginseng, but it doesn't sell for near as much as genuine wild ginseng that's been foraged.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Learn to identify whatever grows wild in your area that you can eat, as well, including any steps you need to make the stuff safely edible. Waste of time knowing baby fiddlehead ferns are edible if the nearest patch of them is 2000 miles away.
Start practicing your cooking with foraged stuff and whatever you decide to stock up on now. Don't wait until you need to do it.
Spend a few days learning how to butcher - @NekoRightsActivist is right, but you'll need to cut that meat up into managable chunks.
Spend another few weeks learning how to preserve stuff. It's not difficult, since nogs and wogs do it on the regular, but it does take some practice to not poison yourself.
On that note: stock some charcoal tablets. You will get food poisoning sometimes.

What does charcoal do?

You're thinking about this wrong. World starts ending? You gotta suit up with the boys and take over the local pharmacy. Highest value items will be gold and drugs.

Become Warlord Walgreens and you'll never be hungry again.

Banditry was one of my main hopes, followed by baby formula speculating.

Something everyone needs but everyone forgets to stock up on: salt. There's a reason it was used as a currency in ancient times. It's inexpensive, has a shelf life that goes until the end of time, makes literally everything taste better, and can be used for food preservation. Go grab a 50lb bag for the apocalypse.

Secondary under-recommended item is some kind of fat to cook with.

I save bacon grease (Southerners use it to season vegetables, which is why they're so fat), don't know how long it lasts or how far it would go.

The correct way to do it at this point is to assemble a time machine and go back to before literally everyone else had the same idea. You're going to be paying the highest prices for small quantities of low-quality material. Frankly, you'll probably be fine. Practical advice:
- Multivitamins: you want adequate quality, but more important will be quantity and shelf stability.
- Specific vitamins: prenatal has folic acid and some neat stuff that you might wind up deficient in. It won't harm a dude to pop these. Vitamin D/Potassium: important ones, if direct sun exposure may be in question, get a small full-spectrum grow light to sit under.
- Water purification: depth, breadth, and variety. Tablets, filters, ways to boil it, or even a foot of clean sand to filter it through: the more options you make available the better.
- Processed, shelf-stable, empty calories. My personal preference is pop tarts, they last years in terms of safety. You'll eat your way into shit like scurvy subsisting on this, that's what the vitamins are for.
Vitamin deficiencies or similar issues are far more likely to kill you than a complete lack of available calories. This shit can fit in a small backpack and buy you months of not-starving.

Excellent point, no need for a diversified diet if you can get it another way. Probably the most helpful thing I've read here.

Dried rice, beans and lentils. All of them are cheap, versatile, easy to portion, easy to prepare, and last forever.

Anything marketed to preppers is a scam. You don't want to be that guy who's constipated when the end of the world comes because you fell for the $15 canned hamburger meme.

Prepper food does indeed seem to be a scam, what's needed is regular food (not preassembled meals) sold really cheap. I eat lots of those things anyways so it's good.

A rifle, a good hunting dog, and a garden can feed you for the rest of your life.

I do have a rifle, but I'm afraid that if severe food shortages happen, there will be so many rifles out there that the meat will quickly dry up. You can't really sustain on a modern population on hunting, I'd be afraid things like deer could go straight up extinct in a modern famine.

 

[Chiribisco]

Okay, so I was looking up pemmican again today and I found out, to my shock, that the Mormon church, that I spent one year in college with, has a special commissary. Wasn't raised in it, haven't set foot in one in half a decade, but Salt Lake City owns my soul now, on paper, so technically I have the right to milk that for all it's worth.

Why rambling about it here? Well, it's a commissary, a members' church. They're a race of preppers, basically the Far Cry 5 cult in real life. (I suspect it was based more on them than on Jonestown, which they claimed.) So I could buy, out of pocket today, a years worth of food for under one thousand dollars. It's amazing. It has to be cooked, of course, with water; not MREs or the like but just regular dried out food.

Just need to know what the proper ratios of milk, beans, and potatoes are. Maybe add some pemmican to as a luxury. Shit that can sit in my apartment for twenty-nine years and never be used and still have been worth it if before year thirty the world ends.

This is a really good idea, not for end of the world (nobody is going to survive off of a small plot), but because I like toppings like tomato and mushrooms and herbs but dislike buying it in stores where it always comes in a scale larger than I need.

Can a person grow truffles, you know? I know you can farm ginseng, but it doesn't sell for near as much as genuine wild ginseng that's been foraged.

Truffles are hard to grow since they depend on having a tree to attach to. They can take about a decade to actually start producing and require you to have an orchard of mushroom trees essentially. It's not really a practical food

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

I do have a rifle, but I'm afraid that if severe food shortages happen, there will be so many rifles out there that the meat will quickly dry up. You can't really sustain on a modern population on hunting, I'd be afraid things like deer could go straight up extinct in a modern famine.

Well upside to that is I don't have to worry about the faggots trying to destroy my younger fruit trees anymore.

 

[Scolopendra Dramatica]

I've nothing to add, only I don't know why I'm so surprised at how much you faggots know and I want to post something to make this thread easy to find in the near future..

 

[Law]

Check out the Deathfats subforum for lots of tips and tricks.

 

[Uncle Buck]

You can't really sustain on a modern population on hunting, I'd be afraid things like deer could go straight up extinct in a modern famine.

The game you have to learn to hunt in a true end of the [civilized] world scenario won't be deer or other four-legged animals. The will to kill and the knowledge to do it without becoming a PTSD-crazed lunatic will be more important than access to/knowing how to cook food.

 

[moseph.jartelli]

Bro. It's easy. Show butthole. Charge one ear of corn for a look. You'll be up to your neck in maize in no time.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Something everyone needs but everyone forgets to stock up on: salt. There's a reason it was used as a currency in ancient times. It's inexpensive, has a shelf life that goes until the end of time, makes literally everything taste better, and can be used for food preservation. Go grab a 50lb bag for the apocalypse.

Secondary under-recommended item is some kind of fat to cook with.

My Nigga. I have 10 pounds of salt in my pantry and I just work through it. Its literally rocks. So long as you keep it dry it never goes bad.

The advice for anyone wanting to have a SHTF food supply is pretty simple. Buy staples with a long shelf life. Odds are good things won't actually get that bad, so you want to have stuff you will actually use over time. For me, I like asian food, and I do much of my own baking. So there is 40 pounds of Rice and 75lb's of flour in my pantry at any one time.

I have the unopened sack of rice on the shelf, and the open sack I go through. When the open sack is empty I switch to the unopened one and buy another sack. Ditto for Flour. I 2, 25lb bags of flour on the shelf at any one time, with another emptied into a hopper that was marketed to store pet food. works just fine for dry people food. Once that is all used up, I clean it, dry it, and empty a new 25lb bag of flour into it, and buy another one.

Same with sugar. 30lbs of that, at any one time. 2 unopened 10lb bags, and 1 open 10lb bag. Work through it, buy a new one as you go, etc. Same with a bag of yeast. Bottles of Canola Oil, chicken stock base, and bags of dried beans. Just work through them. Ground Beef and Sausage also stores really well in the freezer. You can cycle through that as well.

The first rule is actually buy stuff you will use. You don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on crap that will sit on your shelf until it goes bad. That's silly.

 

[comfysocks]

Can a person grow truffles, you know? I know you can farm ginseng, but it doesn't sell for near as much as genuine wild ginseng that's been foraged.

I've never seen truffle spores for sale.

 

[SpergPatrol]

Stockpiling and gardening is two of the most effective ways to survive during times like this.
A deep pantry filled with cans and other needed items will save your butt espeically ramen because one pack is your entire day worth of salt you need to function.
This is why most college kids haven't died yet is because you can eat one pack a day and you can survive.

If you need stuff like milk get substitutes like powered milk if you need it for stuff.

Stockpiling meats unless you have a good freezer meant for that, or a way to properly preserve the meats, then it won't be good for you as they will get freezer burned after a certain point.

Freezer burn causes tissue damage effecting the meat and making it taste horrible while also harming the nutrients in it.
You would be at that point better off eating a boot.

Best bet for regular people who aren't survivilists already (because learning how to find edible wild plants takes a while to learn and this shit is occuring now) is to garden because if you get food to grow your set.
You can prestarted seeds of any fruit or vegetable on earth and just stick it in a pot and your golden.

If you really need protein growing soybeans actually will benefit you as I know most people do not have acess to cows so this will be a good replacement as you can make tofu from it and tofu you can make taste like anything

So your best bet is to look up now how to do that you can make chicken soup without any actual meat and get the same nutritional benefit from it.

Best places to look are not vegan or white valley mom websites. They will waste your food supply make you want to eat a bullet.

Asian websites are your best bet because many cultures in asia survived famines before through easy to grow and nutrient dense foods.
Cabbage soup, ect are easy to make foods due to this and have a lot of nutrients to help you function.

Start growing shit and learning now because, even without the wheat shortage about to happen, it is always good to have back up plans

 

[Chiribisco]

I've never seen truffle spores for sale.

Can't really grow them from petri dishes, they are very finicky with environmental conditions. They need an infected tree to spread to other trees and that process takes a long time

 

[Akashic Retard]

I thought of another tip. Canned sardines. If you can stomach them (they really aren't that bad unless you're particularly opposed to eating seafood I like to put mustard on them) they are the best combination of nutrition, cost, and shelf life for meat. One of the few foods that has naturally occurring vitamin D!

Another one that really maximizes potential at little cost: books. Get a book about farming practices, get a book about the plants and wildlife indigenous to your area, get a book about field medical treatment, get a book about simple mechanical and electrical repair, get a general book about survival techniques. These are simple little things that could mean the difference between subsisting and thriving if the shit really hits the fan. Also obviously wouldn't hurt to read them before the apocalypse instead of flipping through them while partisan death squads are banging down your door.

 

[FFinfo]

Can't really grow them from petri dishes, they are very finicky with environmental conditions. They need an infected tree to spread to other trees and that process takes a long time

Yeah truffles take several years to develop and you need a lot of woodland IIRC. They're closer to those puffball mushrooms than potatoes in ease of farming. Very RNG dependent

 

[Mango Cobra]

Buy an electric rice cooker and spend cash on rice, @Ughubughughughughughghlug
Not those little shitty single pound bags of rice, go down to your local Cosco / Sam's Club / Whatever and buy four 50 lbs bags of rice. That's 200 pounds, you won't run out. It won't be all you need, but it'll supplement your food reserves nicely. Rice goes with everything.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

You can't really sustain on a modern population on hunting, I'd be afraid things like deer could go straight up extinct in a modern famine.

I really do think this is underplayed when it comes to famine type scenarios, a small town going hunting at once could wipe out their local forest for wildlife so most places would be completely wiped out within a weekend. At that point you'd have diminishing gains and people desperately trying to find 'the last rabbit' and getting more furious and desperate as time goes on.