How do I prep for famine?

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Don't bother. Prepping is for boomer tier prepper tards. You can't possibly stockpile enough food to survive anything. You also have the cost issue since no one is giving away free food. Also don't listen to the people telling you to buy cans this and packages that. They took the preservatives out of stuff, and nothing lasts very long anymore. A lot of it wasn't good for you and also the health nuts complained like faggots. So now those cans of baked beans all the boomer and boomer tier prepper tards bought are all going to rot eventually. Gone are the days of your boomer prepper tard stash of baked beans surviving for 10+ years. You will be lucky if they survive 5 years.

Some people will tell you to hunt. But here is a little fact those retards don't know. The whitetail deer population was almost driven into extinction during the great depression. They had to set up a whitetail deer conservation program to bring the population back up. I will repeat, whitetail deer nearly went extinct. All the boomer tier prepper tards are out there chuckling saying, "well I just go out and get me uh deer and shiiiiiiieeeeeeet". Guess what retard? You aren't the only one with that idea. This is how hunting for survival really works. You hunt what's around you. There is a limited supply of that. The numbers thin out and they get harder to find. Then you have to travel farther to hunt. People doing stuff burns calories which means you will have to eat more. Eventually you will run out of deer and starve to death. Doesn't really matter what you hunt because you will eventually run out and starve to death.

Nothing is going to happen where you would find the need to stockpile that much food.

 

[TC-P]

Prepping for a famine is fine but if you do not consider what will be your water source it does not matter how much food you have as you will survive only approximately five days without water but you can survive a good three four weeks without food. Most people in the cities will survive as long as there is a food source i.e. what is in the grocery stores and water availability. I would argue that a large number of the population would not leave thinking that it is temporary. And regarding the argument that most will just hunt you actually have to have skills to do that. It is more than just shooting at a static target. So all the Americans who have guns may know how to shoot but not hunt. Those are two very different skill sets. Even if they manage to kill an animal they will not have the skills to butcher and preserve it.

Hence, if you live in the city move out. Find a property that has a water source and if it is a spring that will not be fouled even better. If your land is not large enough to be a going concern than look at hydroponics. You can have fish who give nutrients to the plants you grow which is considered a closed circuit within the food chain. Thought it is expensive in the initial outlay there is a breakeven point and once established relatively easy to maintain. If you have enough land to grow veg etc than also look at chickens and pigs. Pigs are the best because they will eat the scraps and anything else. Also if you need to have some land cleared of roots etc. pigs are good at clearing it. Learn to can and smoke meat. Chickens are better to have because you will have eggs and when the chicken no longer lays you can eat it. Plus you can raise chicks and for that matter baby pigs. For your health you really should make sure you have a source of protein and veg and if lucky fruit. This takes a lot of work and is not easy but if you are that worried and willing to do it than I wish you all the best.

While at it think long and hard about what you will use for an energy source. There is fire but you would need a lot of coal/wood. If money is not an object than look at solar and wind power. There are ways to build this cheap but you would really need to know what you are doing. You can build solar ovens on the cheap but how are you going to heat the house in the winter. Even in the South of America it gets cold.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Don't bother. Prepping is for boomer tier prepper tards. You can't possibly stockpile enough food to survive anything. You also have the cost issue since no one is giving away free food. Also don't listen to the people telling you to buy cans this and packages that. They took the preservatives out of stuff, and nothing lasts very long anymore. A lot of it wasn't good for you and also the health nuts complained like faggots. So now those cans of baked beans all the boomer and boomer tier prepper tards bought are all going to rot eventually. Gone are the days of your boomer prepper tard stash of baked beans surviving for 10+ years. You will be lucky if they survive 5 years.

Some people will tell you to hunt. But here is a little fact those retards don't know. The whitetail deer population was almost driven into extinction during the great depression. They had to set up a whitetail deer conservation program to bring the population back up. I will repeat, whitetail deer nearly went extinct. All the boomer tier prepper tards are out there chuckling saying, "well I just go out and get me uh deer and shiiiiiiieeeeeeet". Guess what retard? You aren't the only one with that idea. This is how hunting for survival really works. You hunt what's around you. There is a limited supply of that. The numbers thin out and they get harder to find. Then you have to travel farther to hunt. People doing stuff burns calories which means you will have to eat more. Eventually you will run out of deer and starve to death. Doesn't really matter what you hunt because you will eventually run out and starve to death.

Nothing is going to happen where you would find the need to stockpile that much food.

Bruh I already have four months of food.
Deseret Farms Home Storage Center food
30 years
Cheap as hell (sold at cost)
$2.75 a day for four months.
These Mormons don't even require you to be a church member to shop with them, they said half their customers are just preppers. It's not exactly a healthy diet but it's emergency food, it just has to keep you from dying.
My biggest constraint is that this shit is already taking up a lot of my pantry space. If I had a house it wouldn't be a problem.

I completely agree that hunting (and in my opinion gardening/farming) is a retarded strategy, for the reason you said. If you're the only one hunting, that'll be fine, but EVERYBODY will take the rifle they already own or go get one and they'll wipe them out. Gardening/farming is a problem because it takes time to grow, you can't just start doing it one day, and compared to prestocked food it would be very vulnerable to random bad luck/theft/other damage. You can grow self-sufficiently on 1/4 acre, but even if you own property that's a big ask to farm intensively like that.

Prepping for a famine is fine but if you do not consider what will be your water source it does not matter how much food you have as you will survive only approximately five days without water but you can survive a good three four weeks without food. Most people in the cities will survive as long as there is a food source i.e. what is in the grocery stores and water availability. I would argue that a large number of the population would not leave thinking that it is temporary. And regarding the argument that most will just hunt you actually have to have skills to do that. It is more than just shooting at a static target. So all the Americans who have guns may know how to shoot but not hunt. Those are two very different skill sets. Even if they manage to kill an animal they will not have the skills to butcher and preserve it.

Hence, if you live in the city move out. Find a property that has a water source and if it is a spring that will not be fouled even better. If your land is not large enough to be a going concern than look at hydroponics. You can have fish who give nutrients to the plants you grow which is considered a closed circuit within the food chain. Thought it is expensive in the initial outlay there is a breakeven point and once established relatively easy to maintain. If you have enough land to grow veg etc than also look at chickens and pigs. Pigs are the best because they will eat the scraps and anything else. Also if you need to have some land cleared of roots etc. pigs are good at clearing it. Learn to can and smoke meat. Chickens are better to have because you will have eggs and when the chicken no longer lays you can eat it. Plus you can raise chicks and for that matter baby pigs. For your health you really should make sure you have a source of protein and veg and if lucky fruit. This takes a lot of work and is not easy but if you are that worried and willing to do it than I wish you all the best.

While at it think long and hard about what you will use for an energy source. There is fire but you would need a lot of coal/wood. If money is not an object than look at solar and wind power. There are ways to build this cheap but you would really need to know what you are doing. You can build solar ovens on the cheap but how are you going to heat the house in the winter. Even in the South of America it gets cold.

I'm not real worried about water because what I'm preparing for is really high inflation rather than a total breakdown, but yeah, water is going to be an issue with drinking and cooking if it ever does go down. There's water filter bottles, but I doubt that's real practical for trying to survive day to day. But I think that's a far-fetched scenario compared to just having to choose between eating or paying rent.

Living in a forest region there's always wood around.

 

[A-Stump]

^That food in a bucket shit is for morons. You're a trueborn sucker my dude.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

^That food in a bucket shit is for morons. You're a trueborn sucker my dude.

Pinto beans and rice for pennies is for suckers?
I picture you being one of those dudes who laughs at people buying up supplies then gets stuck in hurricane flood water or buried in blizzard snow crying for government to come save you.

 

[Pringles Can]

Simple. Get a few sticks, weapons, and get ready to raid everyone else for food.

 

[A-Stump]

Pinto beans and rice for pennies is for suckers?
I picture you being one of those dudes who laughs at people buying up supplies then gets stuck in hurricane flood water or buried in blizzard snow crying for government to come save you.

I grew up poor as dirt as a kid. Most of the time we had meat, especially in the winter, is if we hunted. We put in gardens every year and canned that shit. If the world gets so fucked I can't put my practical skills to use, I'm OK with being dead. At that point what the fuck is left to live for. Enjoy your bucket of shit.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I grew up poor as dirt as a kid. Most of the time we had meat, especially in the winter, is if we hunted. We put in gardens every year and canned that shit. If the world gets so fucked I can't put my practical skills to use, I'm OK with being dead. At that point what the fuck is left to live for. Enjoy your bucket of shit.

Ah, I see, just make a farm on my apartment porch. So I can grow food to put in the can. Instead of buying the can.
Good advice, shitheel.

 

[A-Stump]

Ah, I see, just make a farm on my apartment porch. So I can grow food to put in the can. Instead of buying the can.
Good advice, shitheel.

How the fuck do you expect to live out anything serious in an apartment? Smooth fucking move, first sign of trouble some nigger is going to set fire to your building.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

How the fuck do you expect to live out anything serious in an apartment? Smooth fucking move, first sign of trouble some nigger is going to set fire to your building.

Real answer, my fear of massive inflation isn’t high enough for me to base my life around it (like moving where I live or changing careers), but it is high enough for me to take some precautions. I don’t expect a total breakdown of society, I just fear really high inflation that would make it difficult to function on my salary. Being still in school I can’t afford a house nor would want one here.

If things did get bad enough, like it wasn’t even worth it to finish here, Id move back in with my parents (who have a yard, but probably not real suitable to crops due to septic tank issues), go study to be an electrician or just work in a factory I guess.

I don’t see crime being a particular issue in a rural Deep Southern town (where I am). When “niggers” start setting fire to the building the locals would crush them.

I do wish I had more space, though. There isn’t any real space for things like water storage and charcoal. Some of it I could probably unload on my parents, but that assumes being able to get to it when I need it. Gasoline is just a lost cause.

Ideally I’d be in a situation where even if everything became unaffordable I could still limp along.

If I had a house it would be nice to have something like a well locked up basement to put things in.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

Don't bother. Prepping is for boomer tier prepper tards. You can't possibly stockpile enough food to survive anything. You also have the cost issue since no one is giving away free food. Also don't listen to the people telling you to buy cans this and packages that. They took the preservatives out of stuff, and nothing lasts very long anymore. A lot of it wasn't good for you and also the health nuts complained like faggots. So now those cans of baked beans all the boomer and boomer tier prepper tards bought are all going to rot eventually. Gone are the days of your boomer prepper tard stash of baked beans surviving for 10+ years. You will be lucky if they survive 5 years.

Some people will tell you to hunt. But here is a little fact those retards don't know. The whitetail deer population was almost driven into extinction during the great depression. They had to set up a whitetail deer conservation program to bring the population back up. I will repeat, whitetail deer nearly went extinct. All the boomer tier prepper tards are out there chuckling saying, "well I just go out and get me uh deer and shiiiiiiieeeeeeet". Guess what retard? You aren't the only one with that idea. This is how hunting for survival really works. You hunt what's around you. There is a limited supply of that. The numbers thin out and they get harder to find. Then you have to travel farther to hunt. People doing stuff burns calories which means you will have to eat more. Eventually you will run out of deer and starve to death. Doesn't really matter what you hunt because you will eventually run out and starve to death.

Nothing is going to happen where you would find the need to stockpile that much food.

Even if you are a master hunter and can live off the land that way, eventually people will come for your food. People are going to want what you have because they don't know how to hunt or fish or whatever. They will take it from you by any means necessary. Even if that means killing you for it which brings me back around to my original point: Don't bother prepping, it's a waste of time."

Prepping is not a waste of time, but it is important to understand that it is not a panacea either. Prepping should be seen as one part of an overall survival strategy, and not the only thing someone does to prepare for SHTF scenarios. There are many things that can happen in the world that would make prepping essential, and there are also many things (such as economic collapse) where prepping would be helpful but not necessarily life-saving. It all depends on the situation.

 

[SITHRAK!]

The best time for prepping was 2018. If you’re starting now you’re probably fucked.
That said:
Water. You’ll die of thirst before you die of hunger. Minimum fifty gallons per person, stabilised with chlorine bleach. x2 in arid areas. Helps to also have charcoal water filters and a water still on hand.
Protein. Whole dried legumes, because you can eat them and plant them too. Beef jerky and canned/jarred meats. Canned legumes such as garbanzos and kidney beans because the liquid they’re canned with is still protein rich and can help stave off dehydration.
Fats, shelf stable. Olive oil is ideal. Coconut oil solids are surprisingly affordable. Cheaper oils like canola, sunflower and grape seed are acceptable but they’re a bit shit, try to stick with stuff that’s not poison.
Carbs. Simple carbs like sugar are cheap. Complex carbs like oats, dried wheat, flour etc are also affordable. Try to get a millstone and keep wholegrains so you can eat them or plant them as needed.
Vitamins and minerals. Often forgotten. Survivalist diets may run short of vital nutrients. Keep vitamin supplements and several pounds of ‘Himalayan pink salt’. You may also want a supply of electrolytes- look up ‘snake diet’ for the ingredients to make a salt solution that will at least keep you alive on reserves if food runs out.

Lastly: seeds, animal food (if you have pets), a farmer’s almanac, classic handgun/shotgun/rifle plus ammo to suit, camping gear, batteries, a solar battery charger, toilet paper, methylated spirits, a plain longbow and arrows, gas/kerosene/diesel, a radio, walkie-talkies, first aid and field surgery kits, everclear, nitrile gloves, mylar blankets, needles and thread, a no-bullshit solid tang knife, machete, camp axe, cable saw, binocular, signalling mirror, flares, lighters, matches, candles, toothbrushes and floss, reloading equipment, stinger missiles, silver coins, plate carrier with multiple spare plates, analgesics (paracetamol, aspirin and ibuprofen), splint sets, military manuals on bare hand killing, improvised explosives, traps, survival, navigation, body disposal, electrical basics, field surgery etc.

There’s probably more but this is just what I could recall off the top of my head. Good luck; if you didn’t start at least three years ago you’re probably not going to make it anyway.

Edit: peanut butter is a great survival food. Fat, carbs, salts and protein all together at once. Try to have at least five pounds per person.

Oh and don’t tell a fucking soul about your prep collection. Not even your parents, siblings, or wife. People who don’t prep will always leech off people who do and you will absolutely not be able to prep for people outside your household.

Don‘t know about you but I look forward to watching boomers starve to death when the collapse occurs.

A rifle, a good hunting dog, and a garden can feed you for the rest of your life.

If that’s what your idea of ‘prepping’ is, then being fed for the rest of your life is likely to be the three weeks between eating the dog and becoming too weak from starvation to resist Ronnie McNutting. NGMI amigo.

 

[Akashic Retard]

Gain a shit ton of weight before the famine and fast, surviving off of your stored fat. Then once you lose 150 lbs or so you can start breaking into the emergency food supply. This will give you at least a few months cushion.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Go to your local farmer's market asap and chat up some of the people there. Make friends. Buy from them for produce and meats, because you can usually get a better deal. If things go south and people begin to struggle, having contacts that you can barter with and trade comes in clutch.

What do you trade? That's simple. If you're living somewhere where you can't necessarily offer food in exchange, learn a skillset that would be desirable. Market yourself.

In times of struggle there's gonna be the people who obviously can't cope and go nuts but once they're taken care of you're left with mostly like-minded individuals. The way that people have survived has been through creating communities and shifting from money to goods and services as currency. Obviously there will be some people you can't trust and are shitty but if you make headway before an emergency you'll be able to sus out who to trust and who's a fucking idiot.

Knowing the people you may have to protect yourself from can save your life, too.

 

[MySonDavid]

Get fat enough to last a little while but not SOOOO fat that your neighbors will get any bright ideas about eating you.

 

[Retink]

^That food in a bucket shit is for morons. You're a trueborn sucker my dude.

1.) Buy boxes/buckets from whatever place.
2.) Label boxes/buckets with years such as 2023, 2024, 2025, etc.
3.) Go to grocery store and buy products ranging from dried, canned, and other goods that can survive for extended periods of time.
4.) Fill said boxes based on expiration date.
5.) Forget about said boxes.
6.) Remember about them years later, find 2023 box has expired and toss it out.
7.) Repeat step 6 when 2024 rolls around.

 

[LeChampion1992]

This isn't perfect but some ideal stuff you want survival should depend.

Generally speaking look at starting a garden even an indoor garden in a crappy apartment is a good start. You can always at the very least grow your own herbs and tomatoes.

Second stock up on non perishable foods that you can use. If you have a high cooking skill stock up on things like vegetable/seed oil, Lard, Powdered dairy, Flour, rice, and cornmeal.

If you have a rather basic skill non perishable foods like ramen/Mac n cheese, Rice is still important as you can always cook it the old fashioned way or simply buy a rice cooker for perfect rice every time. Go cheap as possible cheap as possible means cheap to repair or replace parts. Believe me having tomatoes, Herbs and alternating between rice or ramen dinners will save you money in the long run.

Don't buy excess of perishable foods as they're perishable and only use what you need. Unless you plan on freezing/preserving them.

As for alternate sources of meat. Rabbits are a good way to substitute chicken or beef. cheaper cuts can still be made better with spice.

Also stock up on dried spices as they tend to last years and decades. If you have the land check your local laws you might be able to own chickens which you can raise in some suburban/urban areas legally still. growing your own chicken is healthier then buying at the store.

 

[Dysnomia]

Gain a shit ton of weight before the famine and fast, surviving off of your stored fat. Then once you lose 150 lbs or so you can start breaking into the emergency food supply. This will give you at least a few months cushion.

You'll also be really attractive to all those post-apocalyptic babes because you look like you eat well.

 

[L50LasPak]

Regardless of whatever else you choose to stock up on, make sure you have 100 ft of good strong rope.

I can think of a lot of uses for rope in a situation where there's precious little electricity or fuel and you need elbow grease and human ingenuity to perform heavy lifting.

Also, if you didn't stock up properly and find yourself starving/dying of dysentery, there's one more use for rope I can think of.

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

Purchase dry goods such as various beans, rice, potato flakes, lentils, steel cut oatmeal, and pastas from wholesalers (If you're friends with restaurant managers, they can get you great deals) then store them in mylar bags with oxygen absorbers. Ensure the oxy absorber can absorb all of the oxygen in the bag, different foods stored will have more oxygen comparative to others, 300cc is a safe starting point for majority of them. As for the mylar bags you can go as thick as 7mm but 5mm will do just fine for most dry food as well. Push as much air out as you can then seal them with a hair straightener at it's maximum setting for 3 seconds on the 7mm and 2 seconds on the 5mm bags, add an extra second or two if you notice don't get a proper hermetic seal, don't forget the oxy absorber before sealing them either. You can also get an impact sealer which is quicker and takes less guesswork to use efficiently.
I'd recommend using quart sized mylar bags for things like beans and rice and gallon sized for salt, sugar, and any other staple powders you consume. This will keep your food at a maximum shelf life and will allow you use only what you need. Place these bags into 5 gallon buckets that you have sterilized, with lids that preferably have gaskets to help keep the seal longer. After a few hours open the lids and inspect your mylar bags to ensure the oxygen absorbers are working, the bags will have a vacuumed look to them if successful and will contract and lessen in size slightly. When completed, store your buckets in a cool, dark spot in your residence and you've taken out the main environmental factors that reduce shelf life of all food - those being moisture, temperature, oxygen, insects, and sunlight. As an extra precaution, put them a few inches off the ground in any basement or sub floor to a house. Lastly, place the date you stored them on the buckets and/or mylar bags, a labeler really helps here. Going extra is placing nutritional information on it as well, but this is entirely optional. You now have food that will last 30 years and likely well past that.
This is what I would consider tier 1 of food. Very basic but more than enough to keep you fed in a prolonged period of famine. Water w

Hint; don't put oxygen absorbers into sugar or salt piles with your mylar bags, you will get bricks from them, don't worry about oxygen for those when you store them. Just push what air you can out of the bag before you seal them up and follow the same instructions above.

I would also disregard anyone telling you not to prep, nobody expected Texas to get slammed by a snow storm. There are several events in America that would benefitted from people having some foresight in preparing for them as well.