Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Haint]

Ok, lads, I brought you some furry news from MOTHEЯЛAИD. State-endorced furry news from MOTHEЯЛAИD, no less.
So, yesterday Russian National Guard dropped a teaser [main site,youtube] for a comic they've made. Comic itself is not avaliable yet, but it should be soon. Since teaser speaks with text blocks and short, I'll translate it right here.

Spoiler: TL

Slide 1: Welcome to Dubrava(tl note: 'Dubrava' can be translated to Oakwood, if you're one of the bad bad boys who translates names)

Slide 2: DUBRAVA is a METROPOLIS, populated by all kinds of animals. Dubrava harbors everyone, who relinquished ancient enmity between carnivores and herbivores.

Slide 3: Peaceful coexistance and acceptance of each others nature replaced archaic way of life.

Slide 4: Hares, once timid and defenseless, now live and work together with wolves, who might be wayward, but accepted the new order.
Hare: Can it be any other way?

Slide 5: And sly foxes aren't trying to raid chicken coops in the darkness of night anymore.
Chicken: True!

Slide 6: However, not everybody is happy by the current state of affairs.

Slide 7: Insidious enemies are plotting to destroy what's been built by many generations of citisen.

Slide 8: The Forestguard was created for the protection of civilians(tl note: 'Forestguard' is a literal transation. In russian it's reminicent of the official short name for the National Guard, and I feel there must be a better way to translate it, but right now I don't have any ideas)

Slide 9: Forestguard is a household troop of Dubrava.

Slide 10: Rosgvardia presents: "Forest Guard(tl note: now it's written in two words, for some reason): Ever Vigilant. Attack of the firebugs." vol. 1, 2 and 3

My initial prediction is, it won't be good or even remarkable, since it's state-sponsored. I'll save "even North Korea does furries better" till I see the final product, but I have a feeling it would be an accurate statement.
However, remember Zabivaka the husky? Some milk could be made, potentially.

Red Army furry propaganda comic.
Well, furries wanted to get main streamed. Have fun with being used as political pawns.

 

[Noebel]

What the fuck

Well, there's the thing. Furries aren't as common there as in the West. And many soviet cartoons featured anthropomorfised animals, way before furries became a thing. There might be zero actual furfags involved. Some boomer could've just thought: "How do we teach patriotism to kids? Kids today like cartoons, animals, whatever that Minekampft thing... Sergei! Draw me a tiger with an AKM!". Or there might be some covert furfags in there. Nobody knows. The only way to find out is to look at the thing when its out. I'll keep you updated.

 

[StarDog]

@StarDog In response to your "...this community serves as a hole for pedophiles to hide in.", You aren't wrong.
Why tf can I not use the reply function?

The babyfur group is an untapped goldmine of hilarity and horror alike, and I intent to take full advantage of it whenever the opportunity arises.

It’s not the fact that they exist that scares me... It’s the size and influence of their community. Pedophilia has been frowned upon to such a degree that they’d have to hide. Even offshoots like lolicon for anime or cub-porn for furries were topics that were taboo in their respective communities... giving very few mainstream communities for pedos to settle.

With this though, now they do, and they have a platform to make money, gain popularity, and have big influence. Thousands of followers, thousands of dollars. This Tato guy probably made booku bucks... and look at that... in the background he’s directly sexualizing children (if constantly drawing them in their absorbent underwear wasn’t enough).

 

[Parce Que]

Furries aren't as common there as in the West. And many soviet cartoons featured anthropomorfised animals

How peculiar. A lot of furries in the west became that way because of anthro animals in media, I wonder what made Russia have less furfags

 

[Noebel]

How peculiar. A lot of furries in the west became that way because of anthro animals in media, I wonder what made Russia have less furfags

Censorship is one thing, I guess. This https://youtu.be/a2XHHJQGo9g definetly wouldn't fly there at the time. Society definetly won't approve of public gatherings like anthrocon. Affordable internet became a thing only somewhat recently. More capable ones just participate in the already existing western fandom. Being a furry ain't cheap.
There are many possibe factors, and I don't have a definitive answer. There are furries, there are horse fans. Maybe there would be more after generation changes.

 

[Trilby]

Censorship is one thing, I guess. This https://youtu.be/a2XHHJQGo9g definetly wouldn't fly there at the time. Society definetly won't approve of public gatherings like anthrocon. Affordable internet became a thing only somewhat recently. More capable ones just participate in the already existing western fandom. Being a furry ain't cheap.
There are many possibe factors, and I don't have a definitive answer. There are furries, there are horse fans. Maybe there would be more after generation changes.

Thank goodness such spectacles didn't came about because of "Nu, Pogodi!"

 

[JethroTullamore]

Ok, lads, I brought you some furry news from MOTHEЯЛAИD. State-endorced furry news from MOTHEЯЛAИD, no less.
So, yesterday Russian National Guard dropped a teaser [main site,youtube] for a comic they've made. Comic itself is not avaliable yet, but it should be soon. Since teaser speaks with text blocks and short, I'll translate it right here.

Spoiler: TL

Slide 1: Welcome to Dubrava(tl note: 'Dubrava' can be translated to Oakwood, if you're one of the bad bad boys who translates names)

Slide 2: DUBRAVA is a METROPOLIS, populated by all kinds of animals. Dubrava harbors everyone, who relinquished ancient enmity between carnivores and herbivores.

Slide 3: Peaceful coexistance and acceptance of each others nature replaced archaic way of life.

Slide 4: Hares, once timid and defenseless, now live and work together with wolves, who might be wayward, but accepted the new order.
Hare: Can it be any other way?

Slide 5: And sly foxes aren't trying to raid chicken coops in the darkness of night anymore.
Chicken: True!

Slide 6: However, not everybody is happy by the current state of affairs.

Slide 7: Insidious enemies are plotting to destroy what's been built by many generations of citisen.

Slide 8: The Forestguard was created for the protection of civilians(tl note: 'Forestguard' is a literal transation. In russian it's reminicent of the official short name for the National Guard, and I feel there must be a better way to translate it, but right now I don't have any ideas)

Slide 9: Forestguard is a household troop of Dubrava.

Slide 10: Rosgvardia presents: "Forest Guard(tl note: now it's written in two words, for some reason): Ever Vigilant. Attack of the firebugs." vol. 1, 2 and 3

My initial prediction is, it won't be good or even remarkable, since it's state-sponsored. I'll save "even North Korea does furries better" till I see the final product, but I have a feeling it would be an accurate statement.
However, remember Zabivaka the husky? Some milk could be made, potentially.

So Russian state sponsored Beastars, basically?

What timeline are we in right now and how do we get the world back on track?

 

[Roxanne Wolf]

goodness such spectacles didn't came about because of "Nu, Pogodi!"

Dude that shit rocks, I can watch those nowadays and still be as entertained to when I first saw it.

Even offshoots like lolicon for anime or cub-porn for furries were topics that were taboo in their respective communities... giving very few mainstream communities for pedos to settle.

With this though, now they do, and they have a platform to make money, gain popularity, and have big influence.

100% agree, I totally get people will have atypical sexual attractions (i.e. absorbent undergarments) but the fact that there's been normalization and a huge market for art of furry anthro minors that include implied bodily waste is absolutely reprehensible. What's even worse (and also makes me MATI) is the blind hypocrisy where the same niggers that pay for pics of baby animals pissing and shitting themselves then do a 180 and denounce cub porn, as if the former is perfectly fine.

I will lay out my case in the form of three individuals, two popular in the babyfur scene that are hypocrites and one that is a head of a convention that is straight up gross. Some spoilers will be marked "NSFL", these really do mean NSFL. You have been warned.

Case

Spoiler: JimmyWuffster

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The Virtue Signaling:

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The Hypocrisy:

Spoiler: NSFL

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In

Spoiler: Jaq

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Face ("FtM"):

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The Virtue Signaling:

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Standards:

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Hypocrisy & Broken Standards:

Spoiler: NSFL

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And just to make it clear the Growlithe illustrated is by no stretch of the imagination an adult:

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FA Gallery for good measure - no way can anyone claim that this depicts an adult:

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Point

Spoiler: Miles T. F. Baxxter

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Facepic:

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Did you see that? NordicFuzzCon Staff & Board.

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Wow, vice-CEO of a furry convention! I sure wonder what private interests he has...

Take on Cub:

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I can't find any convenient examples of hypocrisy, but there is an obscene amount of this guy talking about soiled diapers and how much he loves it

Spoiler: REALLY NSFL, Islamic Content

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There is also a plethora of IRL pictures of him in soiled diapers, but does not include face. I'll spare you all and myself that, since there's no evidence to be gained.

And that folks is just scraping the surface, these examples represent a majority of babyfurs that purchase art depicting minors in various states of undress and questionable situations. I have a laundry list of horrorcows like these that literally spill their entire goddamn lives onto the internet, begging the question how any of them keep in touch with family, are perceived at work or even interact with normal society.

I am truly sorry that I had to leverage such & content as evidence, but there is no reasonable, scientific, comprehendable, ethical or moral way to explain the displayed behavior.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to contemplate my 3 years of sobriety now.

 

[Noebel]

Thank goodness such spectacles didn't came about because of "Nu, Pogodi!"

Well, you may call Hare first soviet twink, but that's a modern cathegory. Most people watched it because what Wolf's doing is basically DSPs blind playthrough of Darks Souls.
What soviet animation is excelled at is making children shit a few bricks with dank artsy shit. Like this cartoon about close contact of third kind. This one, despite dank music, funky visuals and Tarantino angles, is on a tamer side. Still, I know a few people who were scared to shit as kids by this. However, stuff like this was most prevalent in the 90-s, when nobody gave shit and artsy adult animation could been aired right around when children got home from school.

So Russian state sponsored Beastars, basically?

I fucking wish, dude, because in that case there would be something to talk about. That woman who made beastars had a vision. This one, again, I doubt.

 

[Walther Springfield]

Coming out of left field with some dramas from one of the most degenerate of subgroups, babyfurs. The crown jewel is the level of autism and disregard one poster has for the victims who lost their lives due to mass shootings - you can find that in "The Good Stuff" Spoiler.

To preface this post after skimming the situation, there was once an artist named tato.
Tato appears to have been a big name in the babyfur art commissioning scene, as their FA gallery is expansive with work they have been paid for that is mostly simplistic at best.
Now, Tato had a dark secret, one of shota (under the name "Shoestrings") and nazi art (under the name "ThirdPotato"). When this was found out, their fellow babyfurs (from what I can tell) Ate. Them. Alive. I wish I was there when it happened, the virtue signaling is hilarious.
Anyways, your run of the mill babyfur and furry for that matter suck at archiving and only take screenshots. Since this was roughly little under a year ago, half the posts about it are lost to time, but I can piece together a brief picture from keywords and the like. Since this is just lolworthy drama and not something substantial like zoo shit, I'm not gonna bother too much with archiving entire galleries. Instead I'll just touch on important bits.

Spoiler: Highlights of the Controversy

Sample of Nazi-like art:
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Screencap of Shota Acct comment:
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Take from (who I can determine is) an influential individual in the deviant community:
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Damage Control - FA Journals
(Too big and spergy, feel free to read via links)
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Backlash Results
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With that, you have context for what I ACTUALLY wanted to post about. One particular autistic white knight, BetoWolf couldn't let sleeping dogs lie and kicked up shit about it and responded in the worst way possible. Also the art from both Tato and Beto is absolutely awful.

Spoiler: The Good Stuff

The best part:
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He Mad lol:
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Eating Crow:
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That's all I have for now on this subgroup of deviants, I'm also open to suggestions if anyone has a request to cover other similar happenings.

Thank you for reading, I hope y'all at least got a giggle.

And yet, the fandom keeps trying to act like Rainfurrest 2015 was just a single, isolated incident.

How peculiar. A lot of furries in the west became that way because of anthro animals in media, I wonder what made Russia have less furfags

For once, I think I envy Russia.

I fucking wish, dude, because in that case there would be something to talk about. That woman who made beastars had a vision. This one, again, I doubt.

Is Beastars any good? I've heard some decent things about it, but the fact that it's basically a massive furry anime kinda pushed me away from it.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I don't know where you people got this notion that Russia doesn't have a lot of furries. It does. They're not as obvious to us because 90% of these guys don't speak a lick of English, and Russia's economy was never so strong as to foster the kind of First World bullshit we do with conventions (furry or otherwise) here so they don't do large public gatherings. But there's a reason FA got flooded by cheap Russian artists a while back. These guys are out there.

It took a bit longer for Russian furries to become organized, particularly since reliable internet took much longer to show up in that area, but Disney was pumping DuckTales and Rescue Rangers into Russian TV basically the moment the Soviet Union fell. Any 5-8 year old kid at the time would be at least 35 today, so there are at least two or three generations of furries out there already.

 

[Noebel]

I don't know where you people got this notion that Russia doesn't have a lot of furries. It does. They're not as obvious to us because 90% of these guys don't speak a lick of English, and Russia's economy was never so strong as to foster the kind of First World bullshit we do with conventions (furry or otherwise) here so they don't do large public gatherings. But there's a reason FA got flooded by cheap Russian artists a while back. These guys are out there.

It took a bit longer for Russian furries to become organized, particularly since reliable internet took much longer to show up in that area, but Disney was pumping DuckTales and Rescue Rangers into Russian TV basically the moment the Soviet Union fell. Any 5-8 year old kid at the time would be at least 35 today, so there are at least two or three generations of furries out there already.

I'd still say there's proportionally less furries. Exposure to the fandom is the key in acquiring new members. And there's less of it, therefore - proportionally less furries. But those that are there are no better than the western ones. Like, that infamous as-seen-on-youtube ball-cutting incident comes to mind. So, there's no fundamental difference.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I'd still say there's proportionally less furries. Exposure to the fandom is the key in acquiring new members. And there's less of it, therefore - proportionally less furries. But those that are there are no better than the western ones. Like, that infamous as-seen-on-youtube ball-cutting incident comes to mind. So, there's no fundamental difference.

Dude Russia's full of fucking furries. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I'd still say there's proportionally less furries. Exposure to the fandom is the key in acquiring new members. And there's less of it, therefore - proportionally less furries. But those that are there are no better than the western ones. Like, that infamous as-seen-on-youtube ball-cutting incident comes to mind. So, there's no fundamental difference.

Just look at the earnings for Zootopia broken down by nation.

Russia managed to earn more for Disney than France, Germany and the UK, even though its economy is about a third the size of any of them. Yes, Zootopia was a big hit with the normies, hence the billion gross worldwide earnings, but it was an even more explosive success with furfags. I genuinely don't know a single furry who was already a furry in 2016 and didn't watch that shit in theaters, often more than once. And you can't say France, Germany and the UK aren't full of furries either. They absolutely are.

The only reason there would be fewer furries per capita in Russia compared to the west is because close to half is population is over 50 years old and was too old to be exposed to western furry shit growing up. As I said, furfags started late there, compared to the first rumblings in the late 70s over here. But furries spread like fucking wildfire once Disney got their hands on Russian TV stations in the 90s.

 

[Billy_Sama]

I can see Russia being full of Furfags since it such a culturally bankrupt country after the fall of USSR. It probably goes hand and hand with Vodka.

 

[Calamity]

Dude Russia's full of fucking furries. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

It definitely feels that way, even if it's only furs who use the fandom as a cash grab and aren't in it for the actual fandom activities. The amount of "pls use boost" journals that popped up the second after the Ukraine paypal issues happened shows that.

The FA frontpage is always filled with Russian artists trying to peddle ychs and adopts, they run the place like a sweat shop.

 

[Some Badger]

That shit'll never die; there's too many horsefuckers around to let it die off. They'll keep shoving that shit around the internet for the forseeable future.

I dunno, it’s definitely become more of a niche thing now far-removed from the Internet zeitgeist of 2012. It may not die off, but it’s nowhere near as broad in scope as the furry fandom and I suspect that’s why it has mostly withdrawn from the online mainstream.

Needless to say, both communities have impenetrable surfaces of autism and can’t gatekeep sex pests to save their lives.

 

[Roxanne Wolf]

Caught some more babyfur drama - this time with censored Islamic Content. You may remember in my last post here I mentioned one "JimmyWuffster".

Spoiler: Summary for Lazybones

• I hate cub porn
• Babyfurs have enabled it (and even normalized it to a degree)
• That shit get me MATI

Well the Political Philosophy MA, ~6k followers baby/popfur recently helped me prove a point I wasn't planning on bringing up soon (since these fags delete everything) but I was lucky enough to archive it before it got memory-holed (See, "The Good Stuff").

To provide context, since I do my best to provide quality contributions we talk about another baby/popfur, KubbyKar "Karr":

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Now this (up and coming) exceptional individual came under some heat recently. How? Infighting - specifically a callout post by a much lesser known babyfur account:

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Now, Karr was on this list and there was some back and forth which is now (of course) deleted. But there is still enough around to fill in some holes.

Spoiler: Babyfur Sperging & Proof of Cub

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After Karr was finished huffing and puffing up a storm of self-righteousness due to lack of evidence, evidence was found that Karr did in fact commission cub porn (with fellow degenerate Nathyrin):


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The below spoiler will contain the link and image, but it has been censored for the sake of your sanity. I still consider it NSFL as it is clear what is going on.

Spoiler: NSFL

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And for those who don't want to see the NSFL or want to read the "story" as well as tags, here ya go:

Spoiler: Literary Haram

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And just to make sure there is no doubt the character Karr's fursona was raping (because minors can't consent, obviously), Nathyrin's fursona is obviously a cub.

Spoiler: Nathyrin's Inkbunny - NSFL

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What's even worse is not only did BaltNWolf make this, he also has a hoard of images he has made from toddlers to minors in soiled diapers. View the archived links at your own risk.

Now for The Good Stuff, you're probably asking after dredging through all that context, "how does this tie back to Jimmy?"

Well, Jimmy stuck his neck out for Karr and from what I can understand (before he started deleting evidence after learning he was on the wrong side) was on Karr's side.

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Once it hit that Karr was not as innocent as he claimed to be, JimmyWuffster made a short-lived tweet CONFIRMING it was cub porn - only to then pose the question "Why?" as if it could be explained away

Archive

Not long after it was posted, the above tweet was deleted and replaced with a "All I ever wanted was to clarify the situation - I don't want to be involved in drama why can't we all just enjoy this space" copout:

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UPDATE: Karr, after admitting no wrongdoing before evidence came out, now admits he knew it was not acceptable when getting the commission. But it's okay guys, it was for highly personal reasons (with a known cub enthusiast, no less) and he's still not okay with cub porn despite having commissioned it:

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I have no intrest to hear how he tries to explain it away or justify it and the fact that he can't post it publicly and instead to do so in DMs only makes this all the more suspect. (Of course, if someone leaks I'll be sure to share)

So the point from my last post stands, not just with one leg but now two:

1. The normalization of cubs depicted in compromising situations by babyfurs and its consequences have been a disaster for the furry fandom.
2. If you're a popular enough babyfur, support for cub can be defended, swept under the rug and/or even explained away.

As always thank you for reading, knowledge is power, yadda yadda yadda.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Caught some more babyfur drama - this time with censored Islamic Content. You may remember in my last post here I mentioned one "JimmyWuffster".

Spoiler: Summary for Lazybones

• I hate cub porn
• Babyfurs have enabled it (and even normalized it to a degree)
• That shit get me MATI

Well the Political Philosophy MA, ~6k followers baby/popfur recently helped me prove a point I wasn't planning on bringing up soon (since these fags delete everything) but I was lucky enough to archive it before it got memory-holed (See, "The Good Stuff").

To provide context, since I do my best to provide quality contributions we talk about another baby/popfur, KubbyKar "Karr":
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Now this (up and coming) exceptional individual came under some heat recently. How? Infighting - specifically a callout post by a much lesser known babyfur account:
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Now, Karr was on this list and there was some back and forth which is now (of course) deleted. But there is still enough around to fill in some holes.

Spoiler: Babyfur Sperging & Proof of Cub

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After Karr was finished huffing and puffing up a storm of self-righteousness due to lack of evidence, evidence was found that Karr did in fact commission cub porn (with fellow degenerate Nathyrin):
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The below spoiler will contain the link and image, but it has been censored for the sake of your sanity. I still consider it NSFL as it is clear what is going on.

Spoiler: NSFL

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And for those who don't want to see the NSFL or want to read the "story" as well as tags, here ya go:

Spoiler: Literary Haram

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And just to make sure there is no doubt the character Karr's fursona was raping (because minors can't consent, obviously), Nathyrin's fursona is obviously a cub.

Spoiler: Nathyrin's Inkbunny - NSFL

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What's even worse is not only did BaltNWolf make this, he also has a hoard of images he has made from toddlers to minors in soiled diapers. View the archived links at your own risk.

Now for The Good Stuff, you're probably asking after dredging through all that context, "how does this tie back to Jimmy?"

Well, Jimmy stuck his neck out for Karr and from what I can understand (before he started deleting evidence after learning he was on the wrong side) was on Karr's side.
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Once it hit that Karr was not as innocent as he claimed to be, JimmyWuffster made a short-lived tweet CONFIRMING it was cub porn - only to then pose the question "Why?" as if it could be explained away
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Not long after it was posted, the above tweet was deleted and replaced with a "All I ever wanted was to clarify the situation - I don't want to be involved in drama why can't we all just enjoy this space" copout:
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So the point from my last post stands, not just with one leg but now two:

1. The normalization of cubs depicted in compromising situations by babyfurs and its consequences have been a disaster for the furry fandom.
2. If you're a popular enough babyfur, support for cub can be defended and swept under the rug.

As always thank you for reading, knowledge is power, yadda yadda yadda.

Cub drama is like the Fast & Furious movies. Something new comes out on the regular, and while it's formulaic and samey, it's always at least entertaining to watch.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

I genuinely don't know a single furry who was already a furry in 2016 and didn't watch that shit in theaters

Hi.
I stayed away from it BECAUSE it was overly furry. I waited until it came out on DVD instead, to where all the hype died down and I could watch my furry buddy-cop movie in peace.