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Having to act like an SSD is some sort of crucial component is the kind of shit that people who took the time and money to grab a PS5 need to tell themselves to justify owning a console where 95% of games are on the last gen.

Which I guess is better than Series X adopters telling me that their console can levitate a ping pong ball, but still...
 
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Marissa Moira said:
Series X is about as hard to find as a PS5, the series S is the one that's easier to find but lacks a disc drive and binds you to the microsoft store.
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Nigger I see the Series X in stock more frequently on the Microsoft online store, along with refurbished models as well. PS5? Ain't a single lick, along with how their queue system being fucking ass.
 
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SSj_Ness said:
And by time it does, the DLC will already be out and it'll be patched. Nobody needs to rush out to play Devil May Fantasy day 1, do they?
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It's going to be the same song and dance when it comes to steam

"it's a 2 year old game how dare they sell it for 70 dollars, I demand a discount"

and when it does go on sale

"oh look I bought ten $20 dollar games, final fantasy was still too much "

"eh I don't feel like playing any of these games that I bought, I'm going back to league of Legends"


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I think there is a level of dishonesty going on tbh
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He's talking about hypotheticals, I thought he actually was able to bypass things and actually sticking a normal hard drive in there and getting a PS5 to run with it.

Like what he's talking about may be plausible but will it actually work when done with an unaltered game?
 
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Marissa Moira said:
It's going to be the same song and dance when it comes to steam

"it's a 2 year old game how dare they sell it for 70 dollars, I demand a discount"

and when it does go on sale

"oh look I bought ten $20 dollar games, final fantasy was still too much "

"eh I don't feel like playing any of these games that I bought, I'm going back to league of Legends"
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Possibly, but just goes to show there's so much choice on PC and at good prices, kinda hard to spin that negatively.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
"it's a 2 year old game how dare they sell it for 70 dollars, I demand a discount"
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Games shouldn't be 70 to begin with, especially after 2 years.
How is this an argument?

Marissa Moira said:
"oh look I bought ten $20 dollar games, final fantasy was still too much "

"eh I don't feel like playing any of these games that I bought, I'm going back to league of Legends"
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Steam players aren't the only ones buying games on sale, you know.

Also League of Legends is a PC exclusive, is it not? Seems the PC player is just playing games they enjoy on their platform of choice. Were those ten games also PC exclusive? Name me 10 PS5 exclusives.
 
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Gru said:
Games shouldn't be 70 to begin with, especially after 2 years.
How is this an argument?
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That's pretty much why PC won't be primarily catered towards. PC Players are not willing to buy new and they just stick to the same 2-3 games that they've been playing for hundreds if not thousands of hours.

The current mentality is consoles don't have much to fear from PC ever eating away at their sales, they exist in their own segregated area. PC and console segregation existed in the past and even when they're running most of the same software, they're now more divided then when they were 10 years ago when they really started to congeal together for the first time.

It's like the shifting of the continents in the end they drift apart.

Sony's whole plan for PC in the end is to have them drive towards microtransaction games because that's what's been the big seller not only on PC but on mobile. So say eventually one of Sony's new MTX games really take off they now have something that functions like Genshin Impact is doing on top of having all the rights to the IP. That's pretty much their end game for PC and Mobile expansions.

The single player games being offered on PC are meant to supplement the movies and shows which are also advertisements, so people can dip their toes into an IP and if they want more they will buy a PS5.


Microsoft's strategy is similar in concept but executed differently because games are not their primary money maker, windows and it's whole ecosystem is. Xbox is treated as an entryway into that ecosystem, it's not the end goal where as for sony the PS5 is the end goal.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
That's pretty much why PC won't be primarily catered towards. PC Players are not willing to buy new and they just stick to the same 2-3 games that they've been playing for hundreds if not thousands of hours.
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And yet you've literally spent pages arguing to us why you believe Sony felt the need to release games to cater specifically to PC gamers. And we've already had others post slides from Sony's own investor call explaining that they expect PC and Mobile game sales combined to actually outsell their PS5 game sales, with PC taking the bigger chunk. That completely flies in the face of this statement.

Marissa Moira said:
The current mentality is consoles don't have much to fear from PC ever eating away at their sales, they exist in their own segregated area. PC and console segregation existed in the past and even when they're running most of the same software, they're now more divided then when they were 10 years ago when they really started to congeal together for the first time.
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If the PC market was really that segregated, Sony and Microsoft wouldn't bother putting their games on it, just like they don't bother porting games to each other's systems.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
He's talking about hypotheticals, I thought he actually was able to bypass things and actually sticking a normal hard drive in there and getting a PS5 to run with it.
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No? Because he did similar work for TT, and they used a similar technique that a Rift Apart did for a Lego game. They also implemented split-screen control in that technique as well, which at face value is how a goatse apart is pulling off the interdimensional gameplay. So in other words, a Lego game did more with this technique in a PS3 than a R & C game for the PS Fünf
 
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The Last Stand said:
Give me examples, please.
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Psychonauts 2 did a very similar thing and is playable without an SSD
The Medium does a similar thing and doesn't require an SSD on PC
Prey 2006
There was a PS1 or PS2 game that did the exact same thing just using technical trickery. It was made by the same dude that worked on Sonic 3D Blast that makes videos of old game tech tricks. Can't remember the name of it at the moment though.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
That's pretty much why PC won't be primarily catered towards. PC Players are not willing to buy new and they just stick to the same 2-3 games that they've been playing for hundreds if not thousands of hours.
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Where is your data for this because I highly doubt this considering how many Steam Sales there are or Free games on EGS.

Marissa Moira said:
Sony's whole plan for PC in the end is to have them drive towards microtransaction games because that's what's been the big seller not only on PC but on mobile. So say eventually one of Sony's new MTX games really take off they now have something that functions like Genshin Impact is doing on top of having all the rights to the IP. That's pretty much their end game for PC and Mobile expansions.
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Are these new MTX games coming out on Mobile?
 
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Urbanmech said:
Where is your data for this because I highly doubt this considering how many Steam Sales there are or Free games on EGS.


Are these new MTX games coming out on Mobile?
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Also what's he going on about with regards to MTX? Yes we know they're a money maker but are Sony actually tapping into that market? As far as I'm aware not that well, only with Gran Turismo 7 being the only newly released game that has any form of MTX, I would not include DLC because Sony do not really see that as major way to make more profits, only a minor one, they tend to make more of their money these days with live service shit, I think they've dropped the ball with all these PS plus tiers when you compare it to stuff like gamepass, but that's a discussion for another separate post.

If he's talking about mobile stuff, Sony shut down their mobile store division ages ago, like in 2015, and that was probably just before (or around that time period) where mobile games started to go really heavy with the free to play aspect/MTX and buying mobile games outright became far less attractive to your average consoomer, it wasn't the main factor as to why they shut down their mobile division but come to think if it it might have been one of their deciding ones.
 
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