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Are MauLer's videos too long?

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    Votes: 186 13.0%
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I think y'all are giving MauLer and Rags too much credit. I think they're honest that they're not being political, because I don't believe that they're actually capable of thinking politically. They're just parrots for whoever they think would like them the most. That's why they're drifting a little to the left and having Destiny on now that Jay trooned out. It's not about politics, it's about their ego.
 
Destiny is a meth head leftist that attacked their "friend" Aydin Paladin and wanted to take her to court. Destiny is such a fucking sperg HE is why JonTron is called a "racist" by normies and lost a lot of connections/business. Destiny is inherently a political sperg and a piece of shit. I'm sure having him on will be great for them. Yet another 200IQ move by MauLer lol.

MauLer is a massive pussy, so it's possible. I think that'd go to show how dumb he is in terms of basic politics when he wants to use very different people like Sargon and Destiny to push what he believes in. I wish for once someone could challenge him on his bullshit.
Make no mistake: everything you say about Destiny is correct and it's a stupid PR move for MauLer to do that. In this case, I find the bit with Aydin more damning than anything else. (I hope that girl gets help someday, but she probably won't); it's kinda a shame that, even on the forums, she's been dropped from the EFAP EU (I threw up in my mouth typing those six letters). The moment she became problematic, she was basically left to the wayside.
 
Longman preparing his Kenobi videos. Kinda dreading this since many of the criticisms I've seen of Kenobi seem to be hyper exaggerations. Like "Obi-Wan didn't know Vader survived until know, therefore the story of ANH is broken" type shit.
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Reddit boy having no self-awareness, as if EFAP isn't a glorified reaction channel.
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Reddit boy having no self-awareness, as if EFAP isn't a glorified reaction channel.
I really hate this notion in the EFAP sphere that being a reaction channel is somehow a bad thing anyway. Yes, there are some channels that are exactly what this Redditor describes, including the EFAP minis. The Batwoman EFAP minis are a prime example. They follow a strict formula: Recap what happened last time, make predictions, laugh at the show being bad, then recap how bad it was. They don't add anything substantive at all. Which, for the record, doesn't make the videos valueless. You don't have to have a substantive opinion on everything you watch.

But that's not the point. The point is that there are reaction channels out there that actually add something. Some people are going to have different perspectives on art, and sometimes it's nice to expose yourself to those other perspectives. Are they allows deep? No, but it's still nice hearing those perspectives regardless. Take Cowboy Bebop, for instance. There are loads of different things that people take away from that show. But I reckon that if EFAP watched it that they'd either hate it or have the exact same reaction that The Normies did. This episode is probably the best example how vapid their takes are. They're more concerned about who sent the tape to Faye, how they knew her, etc. rather than the content of the tape itself. The point goes right over their heads, like it often does with EFAP. They just sit there with that blank, retarded expression on their faces trying to think of something clever to say. If you asked them how Faye's arc ties into the primary theme of the show, The Normies would just have no idea what to say. But EFAP? They'd call you stupid for even caring about the theme in the first place.
 
The "theme doesn't matter" stance EFAP takes is so weird to me, especially given they say they only care about the quality of the writing. In what world is theme not part of the writing? I definitely agree that having a theme doesn't make something automatically be good or flawless, but I also don't know anyone who was insisting that in the first place. There are also situations where the theme of a movie can technically make things worse. One of the big examples I can think of is Terminator 2 and 3. T2 was all about fighting against the future/predetermination. By overcoming challenges, they were able to avert disaster. T3 is the exact opposite, doomsday is inevitable no matter what you do. Now, neither one is the deciding factor if it's good or bad, T3 had a lot of other flaws and T2 had a lot of other strengths, but I dunno, I think it's still interesting to discuss, especially if you're a channel that tries to advertise itself as being so deep, you pause to discuss every frame.
 
One of the big examples I can think of is Terminator 2 and 3.
The funny thing is that they make this argument all the time for why 3 is bad, but completely discount anyone who values themes in things that they dislike. I think it stems from the people they argued with forever ago in regards to TLJ, but I'm not entirely sure. It's the same shit they do with Batwoman, actually. There's moments in that show that are fairly contrived solely to push a pro-LGBT message. This bothers the EFAP crew. It bothers me to. It bothers them because politics makes them feel icky or something. It bothers me because I don't like fags. Nonetheless, I can see why people who lean in favor of LGBT stuff might appreciate that messaging. I can see where the writers are coming from and why they felt the message justified the contrivance. The EFAP crew simply don't care about that. They have no interest in the art or the artist, they only have interest in how the art can serve as entertainment for them. They're just consoomers with a more elitist mindset.
 
The "theme doesn't matter" stance EFAP takes is so weird to me, especially given they say they only care about the quality of the writing. In what world is theme not part of the writing? I definitely agree that having a theme doesn't make something automatically be good or flawless, but I also don't know anyone who was insisting that in the first place. There are also situations where the theme of a movie can technically make things worse. One of the big examples I can think of is Terminator 2 and 3. T2 was all about fighting against the future/predetermination. By overcoming challenges, they were able to avert disaster. T3 is the exact opposite, doomsday is inevitable no matter what you do. Now, neither one is the deciding factor if it's good or bad, T3 had a lot of other flaws and T2 had a lot of other strengths, but I dunno, I think it's still interesting to discuss, especially if you're a channel that tries to advertise itself as being so deep, you pause to discuss every frame.
Rate me autistic but I think that the "art is objective, themes don't matter" argument is a development of the "art is apolitical" stance that people took against SJWs. Yeah, we all laugh when Lindsay Ellis makes a video on feminist theory in the Transformers, and I do hate the fact that modern critical theory has led to the widespread belief that all tv show writers have to incorporate hot-button politics into their material. But in retrospect, the opposite position that stories can be purely neutral with no ideology basically does what MauLer does, it removes the artist from the equation.

In a story with moving parts, the choices that are made naturally reflect the writer's views on the world, characters, themes, whatever. The communication between the storyteller and the audience is an integral part of the process beyond just entertaining them, it's what makes stories stick with us. Everyone takes a lesson away from something, even if it's just "good triumps over evil".
One of the few things I remember from E;R's star wars vids is his point, "all narratives are ideological, that's what makes them narratives, but when you wear them openly you open the debate to everyone". There's a semantic argument to be made about politics vs ideology, and yeah, stories which are about personal journeys or the nature of humanity are likely to be about more universal moral and introspective themes than controversial topics, but pretending that writers are robots with no opinions is just wilfully ignorant.

It's also why the idea that every aspect of writing can be judged objectively is still retarded.
 
Y'know, for people who constantly harp about "visuals don't matter as much as the writing", they were really pedantic about that shaky cam.

Reva: Farmer, right? Kids?
Metal: How do you know that?!

Nigga, she asked him a question. She's not omniscient. Fucking Christ.
This is what's inspiring about EFAP: knowing you can not pay attention and make no effort to understand what you're talking about and still be taken seriously as a voice of criticism. So thank you, EFAP, for setting the bar so low.
 
Oh so when celebrities drive a meme into the ground, it is now ruined. Next Jared will say to Christian Bale, "Patrick, it's you!! You're the American Psycho?!!"
 
This is what's inspiring about EFAP: knowing you can not pay attention and make no effort to understand what you're talking about and still be taken seriously as a voice of criticism. So thank you, EFAP, for setting the bar so low.
Or pointing out something to criticize only to realize it wasn't even a problem. Like Jay saying "why does Obi-Wan need binoculars to watch Luke" only to realize that it's because he's far away.
Oh so when celebrities drive a meme into the ground, it is now ruined. Next Jared will say to Christian Bale, "Patrick, it's you!! You're the American Psycho?!!"
I doubt MauLer would be pissing himself if a celebrity he liked hopped on the Morbius train. But yeah, how dare Jared Leto participate in the meme.

I still find it interesting that EFAP hasn't released their Aquaman video yet. Guess their DC arc was just a ploy to capitalize on the Snyder Cut.

And it's almost been a year and still no Batwoman video. These guys have such poor work ethic that the show has had a third season and then canceled and these guys aren't even halfway through season 2. Looks like those "editors" took a page out of Rags' book. Still working on that Mando video, doggo? Been two years my guy.
 
So the algorithm recommended this SFO video, in which at the beginning he explains how Doomer left the internet, and will soon delete his youtube channel.

Found this on the comments

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EDIT: E;R made a public appearance somewhere else
 
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Ah, so when EFAP values writing over everything else that makes a movie, its okay. But when other people value themes over other aspects of writing, they're brainless idiots who don't understand objective storytelling.

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Dick dropped the ball hard at the end. Could have and should have said "No, I have a problem with them pretending they're objective when they aren't. They can value bra sizes and luminosity for all I care."
Of course, it probably still would have been outright. Anyway, never gets old seeing fans show they got a C- in Highschool English.
 
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