War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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I know a fair portion of the Ukie faction here is pretty openly globohomo
Define "globohomo". I have yet to see anyone nail it down to any specific ideology. It just exists as a "things I don't like politically in the moment because it is fashionable to hate those things within my gathering of dissidents" grouping. I spelled out exactly why I'm anti-Russian in this conflict. Because they clearly said they are the enemy to me, the center-right flag-waving beer-chugging burger-grilling American.

Poke the troon-supporting libtards with a pillow and they will call an ambulance. Let's not pretend they are some threat to the existence of the Russian state. Russia is scared of people with a backbone and guns, not weaponized creampuff crybullies.

What I think just so happens to be a pro-Ukrainian position.

Come at me bro.
 
Please tell me more how they don't want to defend their country. I am all fucking ears.
After dodging a proper rebuttal to the "Ukrainians are throwing their lives away" argument he said this:
I get told I post in bad faith but no one can say how
It's a real strange thing that. Wonder where people got the idea that your bullshit is bad faith arguments. Let's put Columbo on the case.
 
>tfw you've watched live in 2012 drama unfolding when emails of youth wing of United Russia and Russian State Committee for Youth being hacked exposed extensive troll operations, with a few leaks that followed after (and even ledgers of people on payroll) and some le ebin edgy dumbass from Hicksville, Arkansoury tells me that Russian troll farms do not exist.

Committ die please.
 
Military History Visualized looked into T-62s being shipped to the front.
tldw: T-62M/MVs were definitely sent to the front possibly to reinforce reserve BTGs
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T-62 with cope cages spotted in the south, I think around Kherson.
 
>tfw you've watched live in 2012 drama unfolding when emails of youth wing of United Russia and Russian State Committee for Youth being hacked exposed extensive troll operations, with a few leaks that followed after (and even ledgers of people on payroll) and some le ebin edgy dumbass from Hicksville, Arkansoury tells me that Russian troll farms do not exist.

Committ die please.
lol it's common knowledge among Russian non-vatnik population, "troll factories" have been infiltrated, their shit leaked, whistleblowers coming out and shedding light on their operations...
China pioneered this shit, it's nothing new.
I won't bother linking articles and vids as they're all in Russian, search for "фабрика троллей" if you're interested, may google translate help you.
 

Biden says Ukraine might have to give Russia land in ‘negotiated settlement’


American attention span strikes again. First the white women on social media lost interest, now the dementia patient in the Oval Office. We got more important shit like midterms coming up along with the accompanying summer riots, a backalley abortion industry to rebuild, highest gas prices evar, COVIDPOX on the horizon etc etc.

If only Putin had seen that coming.
Read the fucking article nigger, rather than just the headline holy fuck
 
The argument of "Why does Ukraine want more aid if they are winning?" is dumb. No matter what the situation is they're going to want and need a steady flow of material as they cannot produce it locally until the cessation of hostilities.
its a dumb argument in general because any state at war will ALWAYS try to get as much external aid and support as possible, regardless of how good or bad the war is going.
like, even when it was the gigantic US invading the hopelessly outmatched afghanistan and iraq, they still asked for (and got) military support from their allies, that's how we got german troops hanging around afghanistan and british troops in iraq.
 
Well that's the interesting Chinese Calculus at the moment, given Russia has to be pulling tanks and troops from somewhere, an the East is likely it. If Xi goes for Taiwan he gets the full Russia sanctions dropped on him. Which would be way more punishing to China than the global rural gas station that is Puttie's Paradise. But would anybody else in the world give a shit if he snatches Vladivostok while Putin's pants are around his ankles? Or would the world just point and laugh.
Taiwan-RoC has been preparing 70 years for a foe who hasn't managed any sort of a military victory since the border war with India in '68 (perhaps Tiananmen Square using Uighur troops to kill students and not really their '79 war with Vietnam), and still fail to copy a fairly old Russian design for their carriers, the Sukhoi 33. And they are for all intents and purposes they are completely reliant on imported energy and food, which Russia cannot hope to supply. The US Treasury would just cancel PRC bonds or what fucks with them best.

Yes, then, Xi might decide to be fashionable and stab Putin by taking back former Chinese territory, or forcing concessions. Putin delayed the war so as not to coincide with the Beijing Olympics. I'm sure he'll give Xi what he wants without any ugly war business. Realistically Xi could wait for the post Putin free stuff times, altho he has his own pressing economic issues.
 
its a dumb argument in general because any state at war will ALWAYS try to get as much external aid and support as possible, regardless of how good or bad the war is going.
like, even when it was the gigantic US invading the hopelessly outmatched afghanistan and iraq, they still asked for (and got) military support from their allies, that's how we got german troops hanging around afghanistan and british troops in iraq.
They think that war is like a forum slapfest and Ukraine is reporting Russia's posts to moderators, so to speak. That's their level of thinking.
 
I read the article, guessing english isn't your first language since you can't understand what he's saying. Now pay attention this summer and see how this plays out ya muppet.
“From the beginning, I’ve said and I’ve been — not everyone’s agreed with me — nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine,” Biden began his answer. “It’s their territory. I’m not going to tell them what they should and shouldn’t do.

But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there’s going to have to be a negotiated settlement here,” the president added. “And what that entails, I don’t know. I don’t think anybody knows at the time. But in the meantime, we’re gonna continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves.”

We’re not going to tell them what to do, and we’re going to continue shipping weapons to them. Cope, seethe, cry into your Trump body pillow.

In further T-62 news, one has been spotted already disabled. Seems to be new too, not 2008 era.

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