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The problem is a great lack of engagement with the rest of the forum, which has created a culture conflict. Think of it like a bunch of immigrants setting up camp in a previously culturally homogenous area. While individual members of that immigrant group might be able to successfully integrate with the surrounding culture, the large majority of them will tend to ghetoise and become insular, simply because they're culturally distinct. It leads to resentment in both directions; the native culture feels threatened by the influx of potentially incompatible culture and sees it as the cause of all the issues it experiences from that moment forward, while the immigrant culture resents having to adapt and subsume to its new environment and alien cultural mores. Sometimes it can work out, if the cultures are compatible enough to merge peacefully into one another, but a lot of the time the end result is some level of conflict, until one culture becomes dominant and the other is suppressed.

Basically what I'm saying is, the only solution that doesn't lead to A&H being nuked is for A&H members to join the wider board and become part of it, rather than becoming an insular minority that finds itself constantly scapegoated for everything wrong with the site.
Before I joined, I still lurked certain threads like IBS, ResetERA, Terry Davis and TDS. I pulled the trigger on making an account when A&N was hidden to save the site SEO and to discuss the 2020 election and everything else going on in 2020. After that shitshow, I took a break and got reinvested with Ralph's drama and Chris getting an Oedipus complex. I really dabble in any lolcow I find interesting (mostly Ralph and Fuentes now, but will branch out if I see something), but I like coming back here to keep up with stuff and keep updated.

The point is that if the issue is integration to board culture, then I would recommend to shut off viewing the entire AT from the public. Make it seem like only a lolcow site, and only people interested in lolcows would come. I don't know how effective that would be with the site gaining noteriety from the NZ mosque shooting video and the Byuu drama, but that's my view. You will NEVER get some people to integrate to the other parts of the site at large, and that should be seen as a downside, but expected. They need to venture out themselves.

If it is just to stop shitflinging, issue 1 warning to both the bait taker and the bait giver. If either continues, ban the guilty party. This does not mean no debating. Any debate is welcome, shitflinging is not. Any potshots should be followed up by an actual argument.

If its to stop clutter from a gorillion threads about trannies or another topic, make megathreads.

Just some basic things I feel like should be standard to raise the quality up from poop flinging.
 
I'm guilty of that. There are a few other places on the site I check out and respond in occasionally, but largely, I've contained myself, not wanting to be a pain in the ass to the autistic cowhunters. But that's a good point.

Anybody have a cow recommendation (not a troon. I cannot abide troons. Preferably a poli, celeb, or a feminist) I can put in minimal effort hatebonering for?
Dax Herreras a fairly low effort cow, and while it's a stretch to class him in any of those categories, he has been pretty entertaining. I definitely agree with you though. ever since the Ethan Ralph and Fuentes threads blew up I stopped going there bc of all the time it would take.
 
My economics teacher in high school said the same thing. He said he used to bring his rifles and shotguns to school all the time to show his football coach or a few of his teachers. He said they would leave them in the truck for after school so they could do some shooting or go hunting. He said some would take them into the school and leave them in their lockers for shooting club after school.
There were a lot more school shootings in the past than people realize. The biggest difference now is the media is all-in on taking away our right to self-defense so that it becomes safe for antifa and BLM to attack innocent people.

 
There were a lot more school shootings in the past than people realize. The biggest difference now is the media is all-in on taking away our right to self-defense so that it becomes safe for antifa and BLM to attack innocent people.
I was wondering how much of this is increase in gun violence and how much is turning up the volume on the reporting.

They learned from the covid hoax when they shined a light on people who died but also had a viral infection at some point that it's very effective in pushing the narrative at hand.
 
Before I joined, I still lurked certain threads like IBS, ResetERA, Terry Davis and TDS. I pulled the trigger on making an account when A&N was hidden to save the site SEO and to discuss the 2020 election and everything else going on in 2020. After that shitshow, I took a break and got reinvested with Ralph's drama and Chris getting an Oedipus complex. I really dabble in any lolcow I find interesting (mostly Ralph and Fuentes now, but will branch out if I see something), but I like coming back here to keep up with stuff and keep updated.

The point is that if the issue is integration to board culture, then I would recommend to shut off viewing the entire AT from the public. Make it seem like only a lolcow site, and only people interested in lolcows would come. I don't know how effective that would be with the site gaining noteriety from the NZ mosque shooting video and the Byuu drama, but that's my view. You will NEVER get some people to integrate to the other parts of the site at large, and that should be seen as a downside, but expected. They need to venture out themselves.

If it is just to stop shitflinging, issue 1 warning to both the bait taker and the bait giver. If either continues, ban the guilty party. This does not mean no debating. Any debate is welcome, shitflinging is not. Any potshots should be followed up by an actual argument.

If its to stop clutter from a gorillion threads about trannies or another topic, make megathreads.

Just some basic things I feel like should be standard to raise the quality up from poop flinging.
I agree with most of this. The only part I don't understand is, why create a section of the forum and then get upset people like that section and post there? I post in other sections of the forum but most of my posts are here because there is always a fresh article to read and respond to, there are only so many ways you can laugh at Jim Sterling for being an ugly troon, or how retarded Ethan Ralph is. I started to read the thread about the mod situation in A&N and some of the posts I thought offered good solutions, but then some of it read like shit you would see on Reddit, and by the end of the thread it was just high concentrated autism that put this section of the forum to shame.
 
I was wondering how much of this is increase in gun violence and how much is turning up the volume on the reporting.

They learned from the covid hoax when they shined a light on people who died but also had a viral infection at some point that it's very effective in pushing the narrative at hand.
Well you kind of see it today how the news is reporting "8 mass shootings" this weekend in X amount of states,, when this has been Chicago or DC for decades now but then it was just a murder occurring, now it is "mass shootings." It happens every time they go for a gun grab and it creates more copycats and it goes on until the next thing Democrats think they can use to save their asses in November.
 
the reason none of the right-wing outlets are talking 2000 Mules is because it's specifically funded by Salem, a competitor to other right-wing outlets
same reason Burger King and McDonalds don't talk about Arby's reuben sandwich
The 1.5 Billion dollar Defamation lawsuits from Dominion that happen whenever someone in media suggests the 2020 election wasn't the most transparent and secure election in history certainly aren't helping, either.
 
Well you kind of see it today how the news is reporting "8 mass shootings" this weekend in X amount of states,, when this has been Chicago or DC for decades now but then it was just a murder occurring, now it is "mass shootings." It happens every time they go for a gun grab and it creates more copycats and it goes on until the next thing Democrats think they can use to save their asses in November.
Exactly. When it was just black-on-black violence in true blue shitholes it did not serve a narrative function but now that it can be lumped in with the "pandemic of gun violence" they can lump it in and crank up the "reeeee".
 

Biden wants to get out more, seething that his standing is now worse than Trump’s​

By: Johathan Lemire

President Joe Biden and his aides have grown increasingly frustrated by their inability to turn the tide against a cascade of challenges threatening to overwhelm the administration.
Soaring global inflation. Rising fuel prices. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. A Supreme Court poised to take away a constitutional right. A potentially resurgent pandemic. A Congress too deadlocked to tackle sweeping gun safety legislation even amid an onslaught of mass shootings.
In crisis after crisis, the White House has found itself either limited or helpless in its efforts to combat the forces pummeling them. Morale inside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. is plummeting amid growing fears that the parallels to Jimmy Carter, another first-term Democrat plagued by soaring prices and a foreign policy morass, will stick.
“It’s something that has bedeviled quite a few previous presidents. Lots of things happen on your watch but it doesn’t mean there is a magic wand to fix it,” said Robert Gibbs, a press secretary under President Barack Obama. “The limits of the presidency are not well grasped. The responsibility of the president is greater than the tools he has to fix it.”
The West Wing believes there is still time for a course correction.

The plan is to put Biden on the road to highlight progress being made, even incrementally, in meeting the series of tests, with visits this week to California, where he will preside over a summit of Western Hemisphere allies, as well as New Mexico to push for his climate agenda. The administration will also set aside its reluctance to work with “a pariah” nation with hopes to spur oil production. And it plans to sharpen its attacks on Republicans, aiming to paint the GOP as out-of-touch with mainstream America on issues like gun safety and abortion, all while hoping the upcoming Jan. 6 congressional hearings will further color the party as too extremist and dangerous to return to power.
But first aides need to quell the finger-pointing that’s been erupting internally and the increasing concern over staff shakeups, according to five White House officials and Democrats close to the administration not authorized to publicly discuss internal conversations. They also increasingly are trying to soothe the greatest source of West Wing frustration, coming from behind the Resolute Desk.
The president has expressed exasperation that his poll numbers have sunk below those of Donald Trump, whom Biden routinely refers to in private as “the worst president” in history and an existential threat to the nation’s democracy.
After publication, White House spokesperson Andrew Bates said: “This depiction of the White House is simply divorced from reality.”
Far more prone to salty language behind the scenes than popularly known, Biden also recently erupted over being kept out of the loop about the direness of the baby formula shortage that has gripped parts of the country, according to a White House staffer and a Democrat with knowledge of the conversation. He voiced his frustration in a series of phone calls to allies, his complaints triggered by heart-wrenching cable news coverage of young mothers crying in fear that they could not feed their children.
Biden didn’t want to be painted as slow to act on a problem affecting the working-class people with whom he closely identifies. Therefore, when aides convened a meeting with formula company executives, the president — against the advice of staffers — publicly declared it took weeks before details of the shortage had reached him, even though the whistleblower complaint that led to the shutdown of a major production facility was issued months ago. Some aides feared the moment made Biden look out of touch, especially after the CEOs in the very same meeting made clear that warnings of the shortage were known for some time.
Members of Biden’s inner circle, including first lady Jill Biden and the president’s sister, Valerie Biden Owens, have complained that West Wing staff has managed Biden with kid gloves, not putting him on the road more or allowing him to flash more of his genuine, relatable, albeit gaffe-prone self. One person close to the president pushed for more “let Biden be Biden” moments, with the president himself complaining he does not get to interact enough with voters. The White House has pointed to both security and Covid concerns in restricting the travel of the 79-year-old president.


“A lot of things are out of his control and we are frustrated and all Democrats — not just the White House but anyone with a platform — need to do a better of job of reminding Americans of how terrible it would be if Republicans take control,” said Adrienne Elrod, a senior aide on Biden’s transition team and aide to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
Complicating the White House’s efforts to turn around the president’s midterm fate has been the exodus of staff from its communications shop: from press secretary Jen Psaki to several deputy press aides. Psaki’s successor, Karine Jean-Pierre, took the post with little experience, and allies were critical when, days later, the White House brought over her Pentagon counterpart, John Kirby to join the staff. Kirby has been a candidate for Jean-Pierre’s role but will serve on the national security team.
The staff drama hasn’t ended there. While Biden is undyingly loyal to his small inner circle of advisers, whispers in the building have built over whether the return of Anita Dunn — back to a senior adviser post — could portend her eventually succeeding Ron Klain as chief of staff.
With worries rising about the Democrats’ fate this November, the White House switched to more aggressive attacks on Republicans recently. Frustrated that the GOP has not been called to task for releasing few policy ideas of its own, Biden has gone hard after a tax plan put out by Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.). But those broadsides have gained little traction.
“The president is taking action to lower prices and fight the global rise in inflation, building on the unprecedented job creation and the manufacturing resurgence he has delivered,” said Bates. “And he’s working with Congress to cut the deficit as well as many of the biggest costs families face, like energy and prescription drugs. He knows what families are going through and is moving to help them.”
But much of what the White House can accomplish is only around the edges. Biden has sounded the alarm about the potential overturn of Roe v. Wade and continues to push Congress to act on guns in the wake of the mass shootings in Buffalo, N.Y., and Uvalde, Texas. But he also signaled in his Thursday evening speech that he knows that Congress, at most, will pass small measures on firearms that will leave much of his party dissatisfied.
And while Biden has received high marks — even from some Republicans — for holding together an alliance to stand up to Russia in the wake of its invasion of Ukraine, voters this fall will likely care far more about some of the war’s aftershocks: its further strain on supply chains has only added to rising inflation and, most painfully for the White House, soaring gas prices.
A driver passes a sign with gas prices over $6.00 per gallon.
BY ADAM CANCRYN
For nearly a month, Biden and his inner circle have agonized over whether to make a trip to Saudi Arabia, a nation the president deemed a “pariah” after its crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, ordered the murder and dismemberment of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi. Biden, for a time, angrily rejected meeting with the crown prince, arguing the presidency “should stand for something,” according to two people with knowledge of his thinking.
But he has recently relented, recognizing a need to push Riyadh for more oil production. Still, the dates for the trip remain fluid, leaving some aides to wonder if the president will change his mind again.
Biden’s inner circle is well aware of recent presidential precedent. Presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton both overcame a rough first midterms only to benefit from economic turnarounds and cruise to reelection. But George H.W. Bush and, especially, Carter were felled by shaky economies and rising inflation.
“[Carter] lost because of inflation and bad feelings about the economy and a sense that America was flailing and Biden is finding now that it’s hard to be a leader when other things are unraveling,” said Douglas Brinkley, presidential historian at Rice University. “He can’t just be a mourner-in-chief, he can’t just play defense. He needs to be on offense and convince Americans that, despite the challenges, better days are ahead.”

A nice article of cope I found.
 
What is a red flag law exactly?
In theory it is supposed to be things like "if the person is diagnosed with serious mental illness" that is a red flag.
"If the person is heavily addicted to meth/crack" tthen that is a red flag.
"If the person is a member of a group that want to violently overthrow the government (antifa)" that is a red flag too.
Those kind of things. Too many red flags and you can't own a gun.

In theory. In practice if always are expanded to also cover people for political reasons.
 
Before I joined, I still lurked certain threads like IBS, ResetERA, Terry Davis and TDS. I pulled the trigger on making an account when A&N was hidden to save the site SEO and to discuss the 2020 election and everything else going on in 2020. After that shitshow, I took a break and got reinvested with Ralph's drama and Chris getting an Oedipus complex. I really dabble in any lolcow I find interesting (mostly Ralph and Fuentes now, but will branch out if I see something), but I like coming back here to keep up with stuff and keep updated.

The point is that if the issue is integration to board culture, then I would recommend to shut off viewing the entire AT from the public. Make it seem like only a lolcow site, and only people interested in lolcows would come. I don't know how effective that would be with the site gaining noteriety from the NZ mosque shooting video and the Byuu drama, but that's my view. You will NEVER get some people to integrate to the other parts of the site at large, and that should be seen as a downside, but expected. They need to venture out themselves.

If it is just to stop shitflinging, issue 1 warning to both the bait taker and the bait giver. If either continues, ban the guilty party. This does not mean no debating. Any debate is welcome, shitflinging is not. Any potshots should be followed up by an actual argument.

If its to stop clutter from a gorillion threads about trannies or another topic, make megathreads.

Just some basic things I feel like should be standard to raise the quality up from poop flinging.
I just came here for the Vic/Weeb Wars shit, and as well as that community has developed the case when went south and the topic is dry. Not even the costhots provide any milk.

I just can't see myself engaging with any lolcow thread unless they're politispergs like Ralph, Fuentes, Murphy, Cernovich, Pool, or Peterson to a lesser extent. Like, after the Oz shit, make a thread on Posobiec and Con Inc. But I guess that's the point.

The issue isn't moderation, it's a lack of autists. Internet topics are fine to laugh at so long as they involved a specific person/people. We can laugh at troon news all day, but the site thrives on laughing in threads about troons. A Chris Chan article is one thing, and his sub-forum is another.

The problem is laughing at Brooklyn Dad tweets here, instead of laugh about them in his thread. And that "conservative pornstar" debate we had in the first Biden thread? Could have brought that to Porn and Porncows, while we kept the politics here. Just a hunch.
 
What is a red flag law exactly?
Your vengeful ex or your nosy neighbor can go to a judge behind your back and have your guns seized indefinitely.

What's that? Right to a fair trial? Search warrant? Right to face your accuser? All those pesky due process things are threats to Our Democracy™️.
 
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The problem is a great lack of engagement with the rest of the forum, which has created a culture conflict. Think of it like a bunch of immigrants setting up camp in a previously culturally homogenous area. While individual members of that immigrant group might be able to successfully integrate with the surrounding culture, the large majority of them will tend to ghetoise and become insular, simply because they're culturally distinct. It leads to resentment in both directions; the native culture feels threatened by the influx of potentially incompatible culture and sees it as the cause of all the issues it experiences from that moment forward, while the immigrant culture resents having to adapt and subsume to its new environment and alien cultural mores. Sometimes it can work out, if the cultures are compatible enough to merge peacefully into one another, but a lot of the time the end result is some level of conflict, until one culture becomes dominant and the other is suppressed.

Basically what I'm saying is, the only solution that doesn't lead to A&H being nuked is for A&H members to join the wider board and become part of it, rather than becoming an insular minority that finds itself constantly scapegoated for everything wrong with the site.
Honest question - exactly how widespread is this alleged problem in reality? I've seen other A&N regulars reacting to/participating in/lurking in lolcow threads, and vice-versa.
 
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