I sperged about them before on here and I know that repeat comparisons have been made to them but I don't think people realize how closely connected BIID (Bodily Integrity Identity Disorder) and Gender Dysphoria really are. Or rather, how many trannies have BIID, and actively take part in BIID communities. The reason I'm writing this long and incredibly autistic post is to give lurkers insight into their Munchie behavior and how it really is a mental illness, as well as how degenerate some of them are. This is a thread about troons so I don't want to focus on BIID itself but rather the link between BIID and troons. I haven't posted things from their private forums (yet), just Reddit. When I search transgender and BIID on Youtube it comes up with a lot of people trying to debunk the links (despite them admitting it exists time and time again, and studies that they themselves link to which back it up), but there are several German channels from troons talking about it. I don't speak German so I haven't put them in as I don't know what they're saying.
BIID is usually characterized as a desire to amputate one or more of your limbs. They now have people who just feel they were meant to be disabled in some way. The obvious one is the woman who blinded herself. This means there are people in BIID communities who have a desire to be mute etc. Like troons dressing up as the opposite sex, people with BIID will buy equipment for disabled people (wheelchairs, crutches, even going as far as specialist IT equipment), making themselves look like amputees and going out in public. Most people are sympathetic (or awkward) to the person they see missing a leg and they certainly would not challenge them. They can enjoy their cosplay safe in the knowledge that the unsuspecting general public must join in their fantasy/fetish. BIID has an overwhelming sexual element (like being a troon) that BIID admits to and doesn't actually try to hide (although they are now trying to do so in public in an attempt to be more mainstream because they follow how trannies behave). They still don't really make any secret of the fact they are turned on by amputees and by the idea of becoming an amputee.
Like troons, they invade disabled spaces and become incredibly hostile/aggressive to disabled people who tell them to fuck off. They also have a disability (BIID) and people with real disabilities should understand that they too are suffering. I lurk in their private forums and they are more fucked up in there (including the trannies) than they are in public, hence why I am writing this (I can post more from there). They openly abuse and tell disabled people how they should feel about being disabled, telling them that if they are disgusted by their behavior then it is because they are ashamed of being disabled themselves and need to work on that. They have this weird hang up on people who have had 'elective' amputations in the same way trannies don't seem to understand 'gender non conforming' people not being trannies. It is all far too familiar sounding.
They believe that they should have healthcare (the right to have their limbs chopped off). They share information on how to DIY. They believe that teenagers with BIID should have healthcare options. There are teenagers active on their forums.
They aspire to what the troons have achieved and mimic trans rights activism. They openly conflate the two, including the trannies who take part. Again, a significant amount of troons admit both on Reddit and in private groups to having BIID.
He's not the one who wants to cut his own leg off just to get his dick hard.
Another reason I am posting this is because BIID involves a large element of cosplay in public; going out in crutches, wheelchairs, self diagnosis. When you have had your eyes opened to that it becomes very difficult not to see the Munchie. Mild PL but I have a condition that they love to fakeclaim (it isn't autism but I wouldn't blame you with this post) and it does piss me off. I have seen self proclaimed 'trans activists' posting in BIID groups about their desire to amputate limbs and going out in public in wheelchairs as cosplay. Or troons admitting they are perfectly capable of speaking but going out pretending to be mute and showing their specialist equipment to random kids who asked, having to use their phone as a back up talk to text device to carry on the ruse, to post on forums about their fantasy. Rate me autistic or MATI but this is equipment people with disabilities actually need to go to work or college and its something you see as a game.
I think I've covered the bare basics for now but it really wouldn't surprise me if a lot more troons had full blown BIID rather than Munchies than they were willing to divulge in public. Like I said at the start, this thread is about trannies and I don't want to go too much into a post on how fucked up BIID itself is (it is). And I know people make comparisons to BIID all the time. But I don't think people realise how many troons have BIID, or hang around in BIID communities.
It got me thinking: everyone here here is familiar with the "adult human female" definition that makes TRAs seethe but I think we don't focus enough on the "adult" part. The new and improved TRA definition is "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman." But notice it's not "any adult who identifies as a woman."
I don't think that everyone who parrots that definition is consciously trying to advance pedophilia. But by swallowing the ideology, they have made it easier for pedos (and people who are happy to promote pedophilia to prove that they are groundbreaking non-normies) to advance their cause.
The issue is: once you have started placing feelings and desire over actual biological boundaries, why not try to push the age boundary next? A lot of victims of pedophilia end up convinced (because of grooming) that the relationship they are in is consensual. And child molesters will argue about how a certain victim is actually very mature for their age and was totally ready for a sexual relationship. Well, we have already decided as a culture that feelings trump biological sex, and now we have moved onto "biological sex isn't real anyway," so... why should the fixed adult/child boundary remain in place?
It's particularly ominous now that it's occurring alongside the push for puberty blockers and the reframing of natural puberty as something optional and possibly harmful. Once you decouple chronological age from physical and sexual maturity, the concept of a "child" becomes even fuzzier and easier to attack.
Note that the idea of suppressing some secondary sexual characteristics permanently is even being floated in science journals now, and has received zero pushback. Activists have tied puberty blockers to trans rights so successfully that the subject has become almost untouchable. And so now it's just ratcheting up, slowly.
Sorry for waxing philosophical, it's just something that really struck me, especially when combined with all the good liberals insisting that this sexualized drag queen stuff is good because they don't want to disagree and be one of Those People.
I said it in some other thread, but queer theorists, like all post-structuralists, are literal chaos cultists. If something is the "normative" thing to do, like not eating people, a queer theorist will come in an talk about the need to "queer" our ideas of what is edible. It is literally insane garbage, and should not be taught in universities.
I took one class focused on post-structuralism as part of my history degree. I had a huge argument with the TA about how stupid one of the articles she gave us was, that described scientific measurement with instruments, like the kind on a space probe, as a masculine and patriarchal act of violation (ie. Metaphorical rape). The reasoning was supposed to be about questioning "knowledge production". It is literally the dumbest and most insulting shit
E: @DancesWithLeto, I knew about BIID but holy shit, it never occurred to me that it would also be a sexual fetish. The link between the two seems unbelievably obvious in retrospect. Even the screenshots you posted show them talking about developing these feelings at the onset of puberty, around 12 or 13. It's unbelievable people haven't made that link more generally, I guess the problem is that BIID is still quite unknown generally.
AFAIK in UK in recent years there were more people were killed by troons than there were killed troons. Of course, the victims were mostly female, you know, troons greatest oppressors.
I said it in some other thread, but queer theorists, like all post-structuralists, are literal chaos cultists. If something is the "normative" thing to do, like not eating people, a queer theorist will come in an talk about the need to "queer" our ideas of what is edible. It is literally insane garbage, and should not be taught in universities.
We joked about this stuff in university. I would hunt out shit papers from dodgy journals to laugh at when I should have been studying. Yet it has manged to turn the academia into tumblr.
AFAIK in UK in recent years there were more people were killed by troons than there were killed troons. Of course, the victims were mostly female, you know, troons greatest oppressors.
There is nothing wrong with eugenics. It does not always involve Nazis and death camps. Troons are the ones sterilizing kids with Lupron and other drugs, and see how they react to women like HormoneHangover, Alex of DaysGoByGoBy (She's an XY Swyer female) and Helena. They would rather see them gone.
Eugenics is a formalized version of natural selection. Instead of shunning people with bad genes, or undesirable traits we are starting to be able to use technology to fix those traits for the betterment of the species.
Obviously people can do such in bad faith, and sometimes eugenics is an atrocity. The Holocaust was an atrocity. The stuff China is doing is too. There are many other examples throughout history of eugenics done wrong. It's good to be against those uses of the term. Means you have an understanding of right and wrong.
But using gene editing to prevent disabilities and birth defects is not a bad use of eugenics. I highly doubt any child who should have deaf is going to say when they get older, gee I sure wish I couldn't hear my kitten purr!, it's just not going to happen. Yet that's eugenics, selecting and fixing things that have a grouping, a culture, because it's better for the individuals to not be disabled.
You have to understand that while he is driving he is imagining himself being chased by a ninja running along the electric wires on the sides of the street. In such a situation, it is understandable the world's best gender would make a few mistakes.
The sample of transgender boys and girls included very few trans girls, which is to say, that the apparent finding that "trans and non-binary" youth are less likely to commit sexual assault relies on a sample that is mostly female compared to a overall normal population (especially given how often non-binary people are female). It's using self-reported identities to obfuscate the fact that women and girls are more at risk of being targets of SV than the perpetrators.
This study design is baffling. Perpetrators of rape frequently lack insight into the nature of their crimes. They see it as consensual, they downplay their actions when they suspect they're in trouble, they can read the questionnaire and figure out what it's trying to get at and lie. I don't find it reasonable to expect perpetrators to accurately self-report about this type of behavior. Obviously there's a case to do this type of study first and then try to get objective data later, but even if this sample wasn't heavily skewed to females, there's still no way to trust this result. And as you mention, the age range is too specific to extrapolate the results to any other populations of trannies.
I think I've covered the bare basics for now but it really wouldn't surprise me if a lot more troons had full blown BIID rather than Munchies than they were willing to divulge in public. Like I said at the start, this thread is about trannies and I don't want to go too much into a post on how fucked up BIID itself is (it is). And I know people make comparisons to BIID all the time. But I don't think people realise how many troons have BIID, or hang around in BIID communities.
Great post, thank you. BIID is so fucking weird. You're right about the exact same cognitive distortions being applied by these fetishists as AGPs. That teenager fantasizing about C3 paraplegia is really chilling- the only thing stopping him is empathy for his mom, but that never lasts that long with AGPs...
But using gene editing to prevent disabilities and birth defects is not a bad use of eugenics. I highly doubt any child who should have deaf is going to say when they get older, gee I sure wish I couldn't hear my kitten purr!, it's just not going to happen. Yet that's eugenics, selecting and fixing things that have a grouping, a culture, because it's better for the individuals to not be disabled.
I'm not sure if there is a thread on them, but the capital D Deaf community is pretty militant. You'd think things like cochlear implants in a toddler that would give the toddler the joy of hearing their mother's voice for the first time would be a no brainer and would be supported by all? Not if your Deaf. It is literally cultural genocide!
Tiny power level but a friend of the family is deaf and he keeps clear of the Deaf community because of what sperging lolcows they tend to be.
It's true. Knitters have their own brand of autism. If you're ever stuck with a group of knitters and get bored, ask them if acrylic or wool is better. For extra pot-stirring points mention Red Heart Super Saver. That flame war has been going on since at least the usenet days.
(The correct answer is: neither are better, they both have their uses. But RHSS is absolute shit.)
I posted the analysis of a few surveys a few pages back. Most "LGBT" are non-religious and almost all of them are Far-left. It seems to be a social identity driven identifier.
I recall a bunch of folk talking about how Succulent (as in the plants) groups on Facebook are absolutely batshit insane and have the most absurd drama nonstop.
I couldn’t get in to look because they were all super locked down with extremely aggressive looking questionnaires… which backed up the information given as to drama prevalence in and of itself.
I ain’t gonna screen all this as there’s tons of it, so just read the thread- guy has capped a load of really fucking desperate and depressing r/detrans posts.
It’s fuckin grim.
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It's unbelievable people haven't made that link more generally, I guess the problem is that BIID is still quite unknown generally.
I almost feel patriotic. 