US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Meat Target]

If I were one of those kids who got turned to giblets by Jerry's machine guns on Omaha Beach, I'd be begging God to start throwing meteors at DC right now.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

some types of wild boar. It’s just barely capable of putting down some deer.

A 16-20" barrel 5.56 is perfectly capable of taking a deer. Some states require .25 caliber or greater. So, in those states you can't legally shoot a deer with a 22-250 either and that definitely has the energy to do it cleanly. 5.56 (especially out of a sub 18" barrel) does have issues penetrating far enough into boars to cause significant damage to organs and soft tissues. Boar hunting is one of the few applications where 6.8spc is just better.

that's been a bigger one for DeSantis than a lot of GOP, but tbf it's probably an easier sell in a state that's known for its wetlands and nature stuff among other things

And actually managing their fire risks.

 

[make_it_so]

If I were one of those kids who got turned to giblets by Jerry's machine guns on Omaha Beach, I'd be begging God to start throwing meteors at DC right now.

While Google used the day to celebrate the inventor of the Espresso Machine.


Of course, this is probably going to become more common as we get further and further away from the events of World War II and the members of that generation die off. By now the men who fought at Normandy are as generationally distinct and distant from us as the men who fought at Gettysburg were to them.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

This will be a slight bit off-topic but I just wanna muse a bit.

I am saddened that the Democrats have poisoned certain topics beyond recovery. My own pet one is climate and environmental issues.

It should not be a hard case to -conservatives- to -conserve- nature. There were so many avenues of argument that it beggers belief.

Conservation of nature: "We have such lovely natural beauty and splendour, perhaps we should help to maintain it more?"
Independence & Self/Community-Reliance: "Encourage recycling to reduce our reliance on foreign oils and products. Consider community composting and vegetable growing. Carpooling can help tie communities together."
Religion: "Did God not bequeath Earth to man and command him to rule it? And is not a part of rule the act of safeguarding?"

And I can keep going. These issues should in theory by bipartisan as fuck because unlike something like guns, or taxes, or almost anything else "Preserving Nature" has no real hard reason to be a political divide.

But they -made- it a political divide, went balls to the wall nuts on it, made apocolyptic predictions which never come true. and poisoned the very concept of the issue for generations.

I think the politics came in when the very next line was "and we need you, Joe Schmo, to take the brunt of it while I fly around in my jet and roll around in my tanks."

 

[XYZpdq]

I think the politics came in when the very next line was "and we need you, Joe Schmo, to take the brunt of it while I fly around in my jet and roll around in my tanks."

yeah there's been lots of instances when "eco friendly" meant "fuck over other special interests in favor of my special interests"
like the entirety of watermelon (green outside, red [commie] inside) suppressing atomics
as long as atomic energy doesn't enter the conversation you can bank they're some losers cashing a check to cry about snails or whatever

 

[Ser Prize]

Not to doomer you @Gehanna, but I feel much the same, as I like that my city and has recycling and such. Doesn't make me "better", just that I'm playing a part in trying to prevent the Idiocracy garbage piles.

But the doomer in me knows that for every effort I do, there's some street shitter in India, China, wherever that gives zero fucks about the environment.

Can pat myself on the ass all I want, but reality tells me I make zero difference.

Recycling is a grift that has a net negative effect. Penn and Teller did an episode on it a long time ago.

Broke my heart, too.

 

[Breadbassket]

While Google used the day to celebrate the inventor of the Espresso Machine.
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Of course, this is probably going to become more common as we get further and further away from the events of World War II and the members of that generation die off. By now the men who fought at Normandy are as generationally distinct and distant from us as the men who fought at Gettysburg were to them.

At this point we are further away from the American entry into World War 2 (81 years) then the USA entry into World War 2 was from the start of the American Civil War (80 years). In a few years time World War 2 will become something that is merely historical rather then something in living memory. On that note though I hope when the last American soldier from that time passes away, it is understood by the masses as the huge sigificant moment it is and not just used as fodder for some two-bit news website.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

You know what this sounds like?
Back when the last recession hit, I saw the rise of (drumroll) LABOR READY!! Bummage of all stripes showing up at 4AM lining up at the LABOR READY hall. Work Today, Paid Today.
Maybe I'll see more of them eyesore labor halls popping up again.

One tour I was on a few years ago, the company behind the tour was super cheap and insisted on the tour using labor ready to load shows in and out. I was good friends with the production manager and would hang out during load outs and load ins bullshitting with him and watching the load out/in.

Holy shit - the people who show up from labor ready just blew my mind. The mexicans waiting in a home depot parking lot looking for work are like 5 steps above labor ready.

They'd get people who never loaded in a show a day in their life and had zero idea what things were around them. You'd get just absolute weirdos - one time they had a spanish guy who wore a small disco ball as a medallion and kept telling everyone how he just got out of prison for stabbing someone. Another guy on that crew had B.O. like he hadn't showered in months. The PM told me that that guy shook his hand and the PM said he washed his hand over and over and couldn't get the smell of B.O. off of it.

The stage was held up with these huge X shaped legs that closed shut when transporting. There were injuries abound when two labor ready people would pick one up (one at each end) to carry it, one of the labor ready people would almost always close the X completely, trapping both their hands in it.

The PM had told me that there are reputable labor companies like Rhino, who send people who have show experience but he said that he swears that labor ready literally just goes over to skid row or the bowery and rounds up however many homeless they need to fulfil a labor request and just sends them over.

 

[Slappy McGherkin]

Of course, this is probably going to become more common as we get further and further away from the events of World War II and the members of that generation die off. By now the men who fought at Normandy are as generationally distinct and distant from us as the men who fought at Gettysburg were to them.

You're correct. But there are those of us who still share a commonality of spirit for all that have died serving this country, no matter when, no matter what campaign, no matter what year.

Call us those that choose not to forget. We are the American Legion and our cousins in the VFW.

Yes, we're becoming very old bastards. Personally, 35+ years continuous with the American Legion. We're dying due to old age at incredible numbers and there's really no one to step and replace the Greatest Generation, 'cept some Sandbox boys coming into the fold.

When we're gone, nobody will give a fuck. History buried in the sands of time. Pains me dearly whenever another of us passes. Lost a damn good friend, a Phantom pilot from Nam days earlier this year. Incredible pilot, incredible man. Really miss that bastard. Almost a father to me.

Go to your local Legion post. Have a drink with us. You'll discover the men that made America American. Boomer shit aside. It will be a very heartfelt experience, even though none of us wear it on our sleeves as a badge of courage, and even fewer will discuss it openly with you.

Slappy out.

 

[Puff]

I think there's ways to find an audience if you can make a clear case why it's actually to Save The Snails and make it clear that it's not some bullshit NGO formed to push the idea that The Snails are found at a particular lot of land up for sale (and not at that other parcel of land who's owners happen to fund Save The Snails)
if you can give a decent amount of accounting and paper trail of "here is how we improved wetlands, here is a stream that was fugly shit and now looks nice, here are less dead turtles" concrete results (obviously lacking in most leftest "eco" efforts) then it's a lot easier to sell

Conservatives do environmentalism under government forestry grants. Source: they're paying Mexicans to plant trees for me.

 

[Kane Lives]

This will be a slight bit off-topic but I just wanna muse a bit.

I am saddened that the Democrats have poisoned certain topics beyond recovery. My own pet one is climate and environmental issues.

It should not be a hard case to -conservatives- to -conserve- nature. There were so many avenues of argument that it beggers belief.

Conservation of nature: "We have such lovely natural beauty and splendour, perhaps we should help to maintain it more?"
Independence & Self/Community-Reliance: "Encourage recycling to reduce our reliance on foreign oils and products. Consider community composting and vegetable growing. Carpooling can help tie communities together."
Religion: "Did God not bequeath Earth to man and command him to rule it? And is not a part of rule the act of safeguarding?"

And I can keep going. These issues should in theory by bipartisan as fuck because unlike something like guns, or taxes, or almost anything else "Preserving Nature" has no real hard reason to be a political divide.

But they -made- it a political divide, went balls to the wall nuts on it, made apocolyptic predictions which never come true. and poisoned the very concept of the issue for generations.

Let's not forget how the COVID hysteria has resulted in unprecedented amount of trash being generated, both from demand of disposable masks and the surge in takeout dining. And not even mentioning how much fuel is wasted doing all those delivery.

It's all fucking tiresome, is what it is.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Presenting Environmental Conservatism and Self Sufficient Homesteading as compatible would have been an incredible political move. Instead they doubled down on the irony of Consumerist Environmentalism where you just need to buy the new cars and the new solar panels and pay taxes to the new wind farms and if you spend enough we can totally fix it. Imagine a world for a moment where they'd promoted the idea of owning a sewing machine and knowing how to patch your favorite but worn down lazy day t-shirt, instead of fast fashion companies presenting an "environmentally conscious" brand image while running coal powered sweatshops to make pizza patterned leggings.

But alas, we live in the consoom hellscape. I wish we lived in the world you wanted to see, my friend.

I really wish that was the world we live in, hell, it's one we used to live in! But that shit didn't actively make someone money and in late-stage capitalism that's all that matters to anyone in power.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Someone asked where the 'tumbling in the body' came from.

Well, it was taught in Basic Training that the M16A1 round tumbled when it hit, bouncing around in the body, as recently as the 1990's, so of course, that spread.

Now, supposedly, the ammunition, barrel twist, and design of the M16A1 was all about doing the tumbling round to wound rather than kill.

Whether or not it was actually true, didn't matter. It was like the old "You cannot shoot enemy troops with a fifty, so shoot their equipment belt" rumor from Basic.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

I really wish that was the world we live in, hell, it's one we used to live in! But that shit didn't actively make someone money and in late-stage capitalism that's all that matters to anyone in power.

Its not even contra-indicated for capitalism. A self sufficient home at a near-modern quality of life requires a huge amount of tech and associated. High Tech off the grid living is a thing, and its not the worst thing. Sure, you probably still want good old fashioned iron and fire (Which they'll also happily sell you), but if your already set on the basics, why not splurge on a solar system for independence instead of environmentalism? And focusing on more domestic production means many more smaller firms competing, letting investors balance out risks investing in different regions, instead of relying on a megacorp to do it right for you.

Even modern capitalism is peak lazy, with people seeking massive corporations to save them the work of identifying quality firms, and paying painful overhead as a result. Any gains in removal of redundancies has been long lost to middle management bloat, so why even bother now.

 

[Garm]

The add insult to injury, Mexican president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador will not be attending the Summit of Americas in CA. His reasoning is that Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua were not invited, but I sense theres more to it than that. Kamala is unlikable and creates more enemies than friends. Throw it on the pile of failures of Biden.

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In other news, Trump lives rent free in these idiots heads, Biden is claiming that no one told him about the formula crisis and is mad about approval ratings. My guess is his aides have no idea whats going and just keep trying to corral him or he was asleep in the briefing and brushed it off. Either one is plausible with the hot mess express running the economy into the ground.

Could someone build a statue of Biden and Jimmy Carter standing next to each other? Maybe with some latin phrase about how they were equals in governance.
I do respect Jimmy Carter but really dislike Biden so anything to infuriate him from beyond the grave and for the historical record would be appreciated.

This will be a slight bit off-topic but I just wanna muse a bit.

I am saddened that the Democrats have poisoned certain topics beyond recovery. My own pet one is climate and environmental issues.

It should not be a hard case to -conservatives- to -conserve- nature. There were so many avenues of argument that it beggers belief.

Conservation of nature: "We have such lovely natural beauty and splendour, perhaps we should help to maintain it more?"
Independence & Self/Community-Reliance: "Encourage recycling to reduce our reliance on foreign oils and products. Consider community composting and vegetable growing. Carpooling can help tie communities together."
Religion: "Did God not bequeath Earth to man and command him to rule it? And is not a part of rule the act of safeguarding?"

And I can keep going. These issues should in theory by bipartisan as fuck because unlike something like guns, or taxes, or almost anything else "Preserving Nature" has no real hard reason to be a political divide.

But they -made- it a political divide, went balls to the wall nuts on it, made apocolyptic predictions which never come true. and poisoned the very concept of the issue for generations.

Conspiracy theory of mine is that Dems have co-opted the environmentalism movement to be... Well... Racist/authoritarian douche nozzles.

One of the last things Obama did was to establish a Marsh Refuge in my area. He didn't do it through normal channels but rather there is a provision in the law that states "if someone donates enough land, then a refuge could be established." So they get a group of 5 people who donate almost a hundred acres.

Of course it won't stop there. They want 16,000 acres or so and it just so happens to target some poor minority towns and rural folk that just trying to survive.

TLDR: Dems will Green Wash things if it serves their purposes. Yes, I believe that in the end they will even steamroll over the trannies when the time comes.

 

[Breadbassket]

Could someone build a statue of Biden and Jimmy Carter standing next to each other? Maybe with some latin phrase about how they were equals in governance.
I do respect Jimmy Carter but really dislike Biden so anything to infuriate him from beyond the grave and for the historical record would be appreciated.

I honestly hope the incompetence of Biden completely outweighs that of Carter. Carter is mostly a good man, not a good president. Biden is neither.

One of the last things Obama did was to establish a Marsh Refuge in my area. He didn't do it through normal channels but rather there is a provision in the law that states "if someone donates enough land, then a refuge could be established." So they get a group of 5 people who donate almost a hundred acres.

Of course it won't stop there. They want 16,000 acres or so and it just so happens to target some poor minority towns and rural folk that just trying to survive.

There has been an instance of rural folk vs environmental conservationists taking place at least once thus far as I know of. In Pembroke, Illinois black farmers who fall behind on property taxes are having land scooped up by The Nature Conservancy. Sites held by the Conservancy have banned long-standing local traditions like hunting, picking wild fruit, horse riding but allowed things like cross-country skiing for some reason. Before the conservationists arrived none of these restrictions were in place and they are designed to stay forever even if ownership of the land changes hands.

All of this is quite ironic when you see this statement from the head of the Nature Conservancy regarding the 2020 election:

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Could someone build a statue of Biden and Jimmy Carter standing next to each other? Maybe with some latin phrase about how they were equals in governance.
I do respect Jimmy Carter but really dislike Biden so anything to infuriate him from beyond the grave and for the historical record would be appreciated.

Conspiracy theory of mine is that Dems have co-opted the environmentalism movement to be... Well... Racist/authoritarian douche nozzles.

One of the last things Obama did was to establish a Marsh Refuge in my area. He didn't do it through normal channels but rather there is a provision in the law that states "if someone donates enough land, then a refuge could be established." So they get a group of 5 people who donate almost a hundred acres.

Of course it won't stop there. They want 16,000 acres or so and it just so happens to target some poor minority towns and rural folk that just trying to survive.

TLDR: Dems will Green Wash things if it serves their purposes. Yes, I believe that in the end they will even steamroll over the trannies when the time comes.

You should check out what the Sierra Club does in the West Coast.

Plus, there's a big thing with the BLM goons taking property, then turning it over for strip mining, clearcuttting, and then development once the State sells it because it turns out it was a 'mistake' that there were plants/animals/insects designated as endangered on the property.

Another interesting thing is how the last 10-12 years invasive species have been treated as "endangered" by some state organizations. And it's always interesting that the inspectors just 'happen' to find the invasive species.

 

[quaawaa]

One of the last things Obama did was to establish a Marsh Refuge in my area. He didn't do it through normal channels but rather there is a provision in the law that states "if someone donates enough land, then a refuge could be established." So they get a group of 5 people who donate almost a hundred acres.

Of course it won't stop there. They want 16,000 acres or so and it just so happens to target some poor minority towns and rural folk that just trying to survive.

Conservation by buying land only works as long as people have faith in their government. As soon as that faith is lost, the billionaire/government will discover that their “nature preserve” isn’t one anymore. Absentee land ownership is meaningless; it’s the same as “buying” a star in one of those star registries.

Before the conservationists arrived none of these restrictions were in place and they are designed to stay forever even if ownership of the land changes hands.

There’s plenty of land with covenants that mandate that only single family houses can be built on them or that only White people can own it, yet those covenants aren’t enforced. If too much of the land is restricted by covenants or if what the covenant restricts falls out of fashion, people will just ignore them.

 

[Garm]

I honestly hope the incompetence of Biden completely outweighs that of Carter. Carter is mostly a good man, not a good president. Biden is neither.

There has been an instance of rural folk vs environmental conservationists taking place at least once thus far as I know of. In Pembroke, Illinois black farmers who fall behind on property taxes are having land scooped up by The Nature Conservancy. Sites held by the Conservancy have banned long-standing local traditions like hunting, picking wild fruit, horse riding but allowed things like cross-country skiing for some reason. Before the conservationists arrived none of these restrictions were in place and they are designed to stay forever even if ownership of the land changes hands.

All of this is quite ironic when you see this statement from the head of the Nature Conservancy regarding the 2020 election:
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Yep. That's the one I was talking about. Real eye opening. Of course no one will believe you are actually care when you bring this up.

Just feels like clang of iron jaws closing around people.

 

[Ita Mori]

let me know when he gets the ROCKET LAWN CHAIR

The HEAVY MACHINE GUN is always classic, but I wanna see that boy handle a DRAHP SHOT.