Prison Letters (5/8/22 + 6/1/22) Two New Chris Jail Letters from Helena Fiorenza

And that should be redacted as well. Or are you saying we can be outwitted by Chris?
How is it "outwitted?" He has the right to talk shit about whoever he likes. She's a public employee now associated with a public event involving an ongoing criminal case. So I frankly don't see the point in pretending we don't know who she is. Her only relevance is establishing exactly where Chris actually was. If someone else digs up more for no particular reason that's really on them.
My working hypothesis is he didn't like the idea of going back to Jail because it was less comforts for him than the jail, he likely had a nicer bed, some more privileges and time to talk to people like the staff rather than being locked up in protective custody all day with nothing but his Bible, Koran, Goddess log and Radio he can't afford to run 24/7 to keep him company, and he's not getting as many regular top-ups so he can't eat the pain away with junk food.
Mental hospitals very often have a limited selection of food. They avoid things with caffeine and sugar if they can, especially with people who get agitated after consuming them. I know the better places sometimes have menus the patients can order off using one of those rubber pens they give you in jail, but it's usually nutritionally planned so one from column A, one from column B, etc. gets you essentially the same nutritional value.

Of course Chris wasn't in a Cadillac plan mental hospital but a state run hospital. It may also have been "eat the bologna sandwich or go hungry."
 
We have a weener!

Why are you doxxing a woman who had no choice but to be associated with Chris?
its bad enough to be a nurse in a pysch ward looey toons bin, now they're going to keep calling her work place. Then again if your job is to tard wrangle the clinically insane, you have two types of people those who wimp out the first week and those who no longer has fucks to give, no amount of weenery would compare to a day in the looney bin.
 
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Just because she's already been violated, that makes her fair game for further violation? That's a pretty fucked up attitude.
I haven't violated shit. Blow me. Also I would have released the entire letter unredacted if I were enough of a ween asshole to do the whole "write to Chris for clout" thing.
 
Mental hospitals very often have a limited selection of food. They avoid things with caffeine and sugar if they can, especially with people who get agitated after consuming them. I know the better places sometimes have menus the patients can order off using one of those rubber pens they give you in jail, but it's usually nutritionally planned so one from column A, one from column B, etc. gets you essentially the same nutritional value.

Of course Chris wasn't in a Cadillac plan mental hospital but a state run hospital. It may also have been "eat the bologna sandwich or go hungry."

True but I was thinking more in generality than in regards to specific things, his recent jail stint was the first time in his life that he's been separated from what he considers comfy in practically his whole life, he's had a Hard Bed (even if it is cleaner than his own), no entertainment on tap, no access to what passes for companionship aka Barb, all his little baseline comforts had been stripped away from him so getting a glimmer of them back was a godsend to him it wasnt perfect it wasnt home but it was better than the Jail of Fail, and finding out he's going back there and not home was something he hated the idea of losing.
 
So now according to Chris he didn't fuck Barb but still creepily laid in bed with her and him being in jail for a year is totally owning the trollz.

Also he mentioned testimony from Barb being moot because of her age, which to me implies that Barb did testify against Chris and threw him under the bus.
They didn't have sex, only HAMS
 
Hot damn, it's been a while since I've read anything written by Chris, but he's gone full-on schizo, hasn't he? I never looked over the original jail letters, so I think part of me didn't fully believe that he'd gone this far off the deep end and was doing some weird autist LARP.
I'm right there with you. I've been following the Chris saga from the docu-series and a little reading on the board. Coming new to this feels like the decline was rather sudden and steep.
Is there anything to the "late onset schizophrenia" theory Null floated a while back?
 
Chris mirrors the language and patterns of people he talks to and seeing as he's recently gotten out of a medical institution and back into jail he's likely been meeting with his solicitor regularly or communicating with him at least so that's the language he is using.
Chris may be a parrot, but a broken parrot is still right twice a day.

I think that simple evasion is certainly part of it, but this letter feels too specific and I believe at least some substance filters through.

The incest -> soul bonding is Chris' own invention, I assume, but the rest doesn't feel that way. "No eye witnesses" is new. "Barb's testimony is not admissible in court" is also new. Plus, they're at least semi-credible as legal arguments and not just repeating "noting happened" until it goes away. Since Chris just returned, presumably, from competency restoration, that also means it may be the first time in a long while, if ever, Heilberg has meaningfully divulged the defense strategy to Chris. That gives us a plausible reason for this new language and thinking.

A more productive question might be to ask what it would mean if it was their strategy and the implied facts are true, particularly with Barb. Chris seems to be trying to imply that Barb herself has said nothing happened and that claim would be rejected due to her age. That's a huge development and it would finally shut me up with my nitpicking about 'we can't be sure it's rape although that seems likely solely by probability'. Literally "big if true" with a big if.

The alternative interpretation is that she's saying incest did happen but Heilberg told Chris they'll try to get it thrown out. That would be a hell of a longshot strategy though, I'd guess.
 
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Well, at least this is the first time that he has explicitly denied having sex with his mother. He would dance around the question in the former letters.

Also did Helena the Goblina waste tons of money to send international mail to US just to larp with chris? Jesus, the lengths she goes for weenery.
He's lying. Why else the details that she said it hurt, asked him to stop, and was "partially confused"?
 
Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the words of a crazy person, but it really does sound like Heilberg is really working the 'it never happened' angle. Those feel far too 'legal' for Chris's own fantasy land and Heilberg did say in his only public statement that online trolls would play a part, although we dismissed that as meaningless talk at first. It seems like that may actually play a part in discrediting any third parties' statements
It is an interesting theory. It could be that Chris just got the idea from talking to Heilberg because he definitely brought up the trolls, and David could have said something that tripped something in his cricket brain. Chris talks about the phony stuff of Bella, the BDSM stuff with Barb, and that all came out after he was incarcerated, so it's strange for him to know unless the cops brought it up or someone went into great detail to tell him. Maybe Kenneth?
Also he mentioned testimony from Barb being moot because of her age, which to me implies that Barb did testify against Chris and threw him under the bus.
That's an interesting theory. In the first letter Chris sent after getting out of Bedlam, he demanded Barb be brought in an interrogated like he was, ON CAMERA, to talk about how she groomed him. It could either be he thinks that she just gave a statement that got him into trouble, and wants to "make it official" with lots of threats about lying, or wants Barb to confirm she groomed into fucking her.

Chris may just be dumb enough to float both the "I didn't do it but if I did, Barb forced me".
 
A couple interesting things. Fascinating that Chris' understanding of the Russo-Ukraine war boils down to "toxic men dying, so it's awwright".

Have to say, I kinda hope when they decide to let him walk, they also ban him from setting foot in BC14 or getting close to his mother ever again. That or the house is getting sold and everything in it thrown in a landfill before he makes it out of jail.
Dude needs a toy-detox.
"The staff in 1 Hickory...literally had me pinned and recreated the pin-me-down event from fourth grade (minus the choke hold)"
I see kick-the-autistic is the facility's main sport there as well.
Once more, he gets pushed to the ground and once more we don't get a recording of his screams smh.

They didn't have sex, only HAMS
"I thought you said you enjoyed your mother's clam".
-"Oh no, I said 'I enjoyed my covered hams'. That's what I call soulbonding."
"You call soulbonding 'covered hams'?"
-"Yes, it's a regional dialect."
 
Ya this is his first denial of the "affair with mother" in Helena's letter she wrote to chris she posted that may just be chris responding to her. Didn't Null have evidence via chris' financial records he was buying sext toys to use on barb or something?
No, it was a book about having sex with disabled, elderly and/or infirm people safely if I'm not mistaken.

The shit about toys and bdsm were fabricated by Bella and the gang.
 
I really want to know more about what he thinks happened during that particular indecent, I am of the opinion young Chris chimped out started getting angry and smashing up the room kicking, biting and lashing out at the teachers etc and for his own safety they restrained him till he calmed down and the recording they made was either already going on as part of a assessment or something they did when a teacher / student where alone to prevent any claims of impropriety or as evidence in this case that Chris should be in a special school.

My guess is he doesn't even really recall what happened and just goes off what he was told by Bob and Barb happened. He has always been far too consistent with his description and comes off as it's something he has been told as a fact, and it doesnt match up with how he really recalls events he can recall, and he fills in the blanks he does have in the sotry with what he's seen on TV / Cartoons and Games as fighting, because even in the late 80's and early 90's a grown adult a teacher non the less wouldn't under any circumstances use a choke hold on a young child having a tantrum.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chris went ballistic in 4th grade and had to be restrained as such. I remember something similar or what could be similar happen to a kid I knew back in 8th grade. Don't wanna get too detailed for privacy reasons but essentially he tried to beat up another kid in an ESE class, other kid fought back, shit got out of control, and the dean, some teachers, and a resource officer came in and restrained him for a good while. Of course, this happened in Florida back in 2013 and whatever happened to Chris happened in Virginia in the 90s, so there is a difference in how temper-tantrum throwing children are treated due to different state school boards and time periods.

Also he mentioned testimony from Barb being moot because of her age, which to me implies that Barb did testify against Chris and threw him under the bus.
Knowing Barb, her doing anything to save herself isn't anything new. Look at how she blew Bob's inheritance on a top-tier lawyer for the Game Place incident back in 2011.
 
The incest -> soul bonding is Chris' own invention, I assume, but the rest doesn't feel that way.

Soul bonding is Chris saying something he learned from various neo-hippy / new age stuff he's been exposed to, the idea in a lot of these Circles is Sex is a wonderful Joyus thing your a fool to deny, but Making "love is a bonding between partners and a unbreakable connection of two souls"

"No eye witnesses" is new. "Barb's testimony is not admissible in court" is also new. Plus, they're at least semi-credible as legal arguments and not just repeating "noting happened" until it goes away. Since Chris just returned, presumably, from competency restoration, that also means it may be the first time in a long while, if ever, Heilberg has meaningfully divulged the defense strategy to Chris. That gives us a plausible reason for this new language and thinking.

Not really Chris has been told about some things related to the legal system from a stock education on the subject and brief explanation of it - Chris learns a little on a topic and fills in the gaps from the media he has consumed for example when he was demanding money from Tito and Clyde he asked for "Non sequencial unmarked bills" that was common from the 20's to 90's in media when dealing with money ina underhand way, it was only the late 90's and 00's when Non negotiable bearer bonds even came into it and now it's crypto - Chris has been told "Unless someone says they have saw it there testimony is inadmissible" disregarding that Barb is the person making the complaint and is a victim and is entitled to make a statement.

If you give Chris a small bit of information that he can understand he will take it and misunderstand it and change it to suit himself.

The only reason Chris has picked up new phrases and alike is because they have sat him down and talked to him and he's been looking for a magical cheat phrase that will absolve him of all responsibility and it was just important sounding enough to sink into his brain.

A more productive question might be to ask what it would mean if it was their strategy and the implied facts are true, particularly with Barb. Chris seems to be trying to imply that Barb herself has said nothing happened and that claim would be rejected due to her age. That's a huge development and it would finally shut me up with my nitpicking about 'we can't be sure it's rape although that seems likely solely by probability'. Literally "big if true" with a big if.

It's more simple than that, Chris is for the first time in his life in deep trouble and Barb is at best a NPC Party member to Chris so if it comes down to Him or Barb he's going to chose himself, Remeber Chris has claimed that she instigated it and offerd to take his virginity that at best is a gross misrepresentation of what happened or a outright lie to save his own skin and move his problems onto her.

I can see his solicitor trying to muddy the waters using Barbs age and cognative health as a issue but both Chris and Barb have had a odd relationship with each other and Chris has talked positively about Incest and dreams about Sex with her, long before this - It just took Chris a long while to work up the courage to take barb on in a weakened state and molest her, but some of that is on Barb for having poor boundary with a mentally challenged child she knew was overly sexually interested ( Just a side note I would like to make a thread about this topic in general about special needs people with the mind of a child and a adult sex drive it's a horrifying topic nobody seems to be willing to address).


The alternative interpretation is that she's saying incest did happen but Heilberg told Chris they'll try to get it thrown out. That would be a hell of a longshot strategy though, I'd guess.

I doubt it, my guess is they have more than circumstantial evidence and they just want this whole mess to go away - This isn't a case anybody wants to deal with, it's not like it will win them accolades for "Bringing justice to the children abused by a trusted Teacher" or "The Wolf in sheep's clothing who preyed on our children" - This is a man with the brain of a disturbed child who has never gotten the help he needed left alone with his demeneted mother and something awful happened and now the government has to step in and clean up the mess and it could have stepped in sooner and saved everyone involved this whole situation but it was easyer not to.
 
No, it was a book about having sex with disabled, elderly and/or infirm people safely if I'm not mistaken.

The shit about toys and bdsm were fabricated by Bella and the gang.
Hmmmm I could have sworn null mentioned in his interview something about how Chris was broke cuz he bought a bunch of stuff like dildos and lube off Adam and eve. And that was why his bank account was drained at the time he stole from barb to get his motel money. Maybe I mis remembered
 
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