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So Sagedynamics and Roscoe are releasing a barrel with a new gas length that they're calling patrol length. I guess it's supposed to be optimized for silencers on 12.5 barrels which apparently can have trouble with silencers. I don't know a whole a lot about silencers so I don't know if this is a real thing.
Faxon had and 11.5 with a mid-length gas port that was supposedly designed for suppressor use. Based on reviews though it looks like in order to deal with the lack of dwell time, they opened up the gas port so much that it was overgassed even with adjustable blocks set on their lowest setting - and people were theorizing this was to ensure function WITHOUT a suppressor. Giving it a bit more dwell time by using an intermediate between mid length and carbine seems like it could be a good idea.
As someone who would like to put together a short (10 - 12 inch) SBR, for use as a suppressor host for a HD gun, if the gas port on this barrel is tuned right I think it could be quite a good setup. That being said, I don't care for the stainless barrel because I'd never shoot the thing at any kind of extended range and I'd prefer the durability of a nitrided 4150 or regular old chrome lined barrel. Still think there could be merit to the gas port location though.
 
Some recent Karl Twitter activity. Karl is revealed to simp for a washed up Canadian Proto-Egirl and continues to retweet Chris Chan pronoun policer Robert Evans. Karl is also very butthurt about the mean evil Christians and retweeted a tweet by the Nigger Loving Terrorist Gun Club seething about them standing up to the groomers (The event was a bunch of crossdressers dancing around kids IIRC).
 

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For context (this is elaborated upon in two videos linked in the twitter thread but I will summarize it here for brevity and to save my fellow farmers from watching his gay videos) Beau the Human Trafficker here believes that the Sig Spear and the .277 Fury cartridge are going to lead to the 2nd Amendment being repealed or some shit. How has he come to this conclusion? Basically Beau is a retard who does not understand Terminal Ballistics or the .277 Fury cartridge. Beau believes without seeing a single gel test (To be fair I do not think anyone has actually gel tested with .277 Fury) that anyone hit with it will instantly expire and thus mass shooting committed with weapons chambered in the round will be so horrific that the Government begins gun confiscation. There is Also a bunch of shit in there about how the bigot chuds like guns the Military uses and have created a "toxic" gun culture.

Beau probably does not understand that there will be 3-4 different .277 Fury loadings power wise (Civ brass, Civ Hybrid, Mil pressure and potentially specific Mil pressure training ammo assuming that is not just civ pressure ammo.
 
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And then a marching band went through and everybody applauded?

ETA: for the record, .277 Fury has a muzzle energy only about 10% higher than bog-standard 7.62mm NATO. I imagine recoil might be slightly harsher due to the higher velocity but I question whether anyone would pass the Pepsi test between .227 Fury and 7.62mm NATO on recoil impulse alone.
It's out of a 13" barrel compared to 20/22 inch 7.62 barrels. Even with the same muzzle energy the impulse delivery will be worse for the .227, but it has even more energy and a shorter impulse so it will be doubly worse. A 20" M16 will shoot softer than a 10" gun and the 10" gun certainly has less muzzle energy, so it's more about the final impulse rather than raw energy for semi automatics.
 
For context (this is elaborated upon in two videos linked in the twitter thread but I will summarize it here for brevity and to save my fellow farmers from watching his gay videos) Beau the Human Trafficker here believes that the Sig Spear and the .277 Fury cartridge are going to lead to the 2nd Amendment being repealed or some shit. How has he come to this conclusion? Basically Beau is a retard who does not understand Terminal Ballistics or the .277 Fury cartridge. Beau believes without seeing a single gel test (To be fair I do not think anyone has actually gel tested with .277 Fury) that anyone hit with it will instantly expire and thus mass shooting committed with weapons chambered in the round will be so horrific that the Government begins gun confiscation. There is Also o a bunch of shit in there about how the bigot chuds like guns the Military uses and have created a "toxic" gun culture.

Beau probably does not understand that there will be 3-4 different .277 Fury loadings power wise (Civ brass, Civ Hybrid, Mil pressure and potentially specific Mil pressure training ammo assuming that is not just civ pressure ammo.
That's the big thing, not even the army is going to be using the full pressure ammo for most of its purposes. And anyone who thinks that just because .277 Fury is a thing all the mass shooters are going to start using it... well...

Have these people ever heard of the M14? Military rifle. We still have the damn thing in service. 7.62mm NATO is a caliber that's already in service, and it's still damn powerful for what it does. It'll definitely do awful, awful things to fleshy things it hits, even through multiple cinderblocks. Same with .30.06 Springfield if you're feeling particularly patriotic. Yet you don't see a lot of people going around slinging those rounds in mass shootings. Wonder why? Maybe it's because most mass shootings are carried out using smaller weapons, and trying to sling around a full-sized, full-recoil battle rifle in a tight mass shooting environment is not going to do you any good?

Who knows. All I know is, Beau is obviously ignoring that most mass shootings in the US still happen with the good ol' 9mm out of pistols, between gangs of young men shooting the hell out of one another in the inner cities. Somehow that never really affected the 2A discourse. Wonder why.
 
The average mentally ill twink dipshit who goes and shoots up his school typically don't know much about guns, but more importantly is fucking noodle armed. I don't see a guy like Lanza, Roof, or Tranny Phantom even getting a PTR91 inside without getting winded. I can't imagine any of them being able to cope with the weight of a loaded XM5 if they had one.
 
Even forgetting about anything else, military small arms are regulated under international treaty to have pretty tame wound profiles.

He's making this huge hullaballoo about muh military boolets like it means anything, but it's not like civilians will be wearing body armor. It'd probably be deadlier to shoot them with one of those modern hollow point 9mms than some gubmint ball or penetrator, because the wound profile is way nastier.
 
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