Prison Letters (6/04/22) - New Chris Jail Letter - Chris Explains Soul Bonding and the Goddess Logs

[Hogar Grupal]

Calling Null Judas implies that Chris wishes him to be hanged on the tree. So far, no letter reply about considering to forgive Null since he's Jesus.

Because he believes he will return to his temple, I wish someone records his journey from stepping out of jail to his another arrest for trespassing and/or harrassment after arriving 14BC.

He won't be chummy with the jerkops this time, that's for sure.

 

[A Grey Cat]

No, they'd eat him alive there. Chris is too naive to make it, and the bums can smell a mark. Lucas Werner would consistently get tricked out of his EBT or just robbed and he's a lot more cogent than Chris.

Homeless shelters are the 21st century equivalent to Dickensian workhouses. The bums there are dog eat dog and WILL shake down the weaker ones for whatever they have and the unpaid staff are volunteers who mean well, but aren't earning anything so they hand out food and clothes but often stay at arms length from the occupants or behind safety glass barriers.

Even I wouldn't wish that kinda hell on Chris despite him being a pos who did something utterly heinous. If at least want him sitting in a trailer home or a seedy roach motel no longer able to hoard toys living off shitty cheap TV and internet service and as someone said hungry man dinners and canned spaghetti.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Homeless shelters are the 21st century equivalent to Dickensian workhouses. The bums there are dog eat dog and WILL shake down the weaker ones for whatever they have and the unpaid staff are volunteers who mean well, but aren't earning anything so they hand out food and clothes but often stay at arms length from the occupants or behind safety glass barriers.

Even I wouldn't wish that kinda hell on Chris despite him being a pos who did something utterly heinous. If at least want him sitting in a trailer home or a seedy roach motel no longer able to hoard toys living off shitty cheap TV and internet service and as someone said hungry man dinners and canned spaghetti.

Honestly I see him ultimately living out of a car, like some shitty used van. Definitely not a full blown Winebeago or even some renovated school bus, just some dumpy panel van or minivan he sleeps in the back of while he leeches free internet from the library or starbucks he's parked near. Probably decorated with a zillion dumb stickers like the MAGA bomber some time back, except instead of political slogans it's all ponies, trans-rights, and other social causes Chris latches onto in place of a real identity.

 

[I_Am_Honor_Roll]

So now he's just straight up denying he ever had intercourse with Barbara.

Golly gee--why didn't he just try THAT in the first place?

 

[PsychoNerd054]

So now he's just straight up denying he ever had intercourse with Barbara.

Golly gee--why didn't he just try THAT in the first place?

It's speculated that Chris might have been told that it can't be PROVEN that he had any affair with his mother, and his trial is coming up soon, so he's likely trying to take full advantage of that fact, and outright denying that he claimed anything like that unironically. Plus, the Kiwi Farms and the CWCki can't be used as evidence for a court case.

Before he never explicitely talked about his sex drive in previous letters, despite being very horny before his arrest, instead talking about "soul-bonding".

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

But I digress...

Than explain the freezer full of tupperware filled with Man Milk?

Doesn't mean a thing. Wasn't done because Chris enjoys wanking. Was done because he was worried that his becoming a 'woman' might mean that he wouldn't have the sperm to guarantee creating his God-and-Bear-ordained daughter Crystal, so he panicked and stockpiled as much as he could.

Necessity rather than pleasure.

 

[I_Am_Honor_Roll]

It's speculated that Chris might have been told that it can't be PROVEN that he had any affair with his mother, and his trial is coming up soon, so he's likely trying to take full advantage of that fact, and outright denying that he claimed anything like that unironically.

Obviously I have no idea whether or not this will progress to a full-blown trial, but I would be really shocked if they didn't have Barbara undergo a physical examination and/or interview during intake. If they intended to go to trial, I would assume evidence like that would be crucial.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

His mannerisms right before he sprays the guy are clearly of a child making sure the coast is clear before doing something they know very well not to do.

Really? He doesn't look or sound to me as though he's being cautious or wary at all. He swaggers through by his standards, and his 'Don't call anybody' is delivered in the high-handed, snotty tone of someone who thinks that he's unassailable and that mere mortal rules do not apply to him.

In short, he's being arrogant and unsubtle. Classic Chris.

 

[A-№1]

As I understand it, he was first placed in medical and then moved to isolation/protected/whatever. Now he’s in medical again.

I thought he was put in the obligatory covid quarantine everyone gets these days, and then moved to "medical" (a.k.a. crazies) isolation because it's easier to manage the nutball inmates that way.

That’s not a slap on the wrist.

The court is looking for a solution to Chris, not a punishment for him. That's not a slap on the wrist either.

Chris will, of course, view placement in a tard farm as punishment, but that's not how the rest of the world will see it.

He won’t have a jury trial.

This.

The very rare J&DR cases that actually go to trial are almost always bench trials. Chris can insist on a jury trial, but that would be very, VERY stupid. I would love to see the look on Heilberg's face if Chris does that.

Chris would not have been kept locked up for a year if nothing happened.

Also this.

One of the reasons Chris was denied bail for a pissant misdemeanor charge was to keep him the fuck away from 14BLC. I can't imagine the court has changed their mind about that and will send him back there now.

Even if he goes to trial, in J&DR there is no jury. It's just the judge.

Chris can insist on a jury trial. It might need to be part of an appeal, but he does have the right to face a jury of his (for lack of a better word) "peers". It would be an incredibly stupid thing for him to do, and I'm certain NOBODY (not even his own lawyer) is letting him know of this right, but he can do it.

If it does go the felony route, we should know by mid-August.

Fingers crossed.

@Spamton G. Spamton was using a mail service to avoid being doxxed, so he's safe at least.

@Spamton G. Spamton is not a ween. He didn't write to Chris for attention for himself. He didn't play along with Chris' games or pretend to be a boyfriend-free-girl. He didn't lie to Chris about not posting Chris' reply on the internet. In so far as I'm aware, he did everything right, and so, honestly, I'm amazed he got a reply.

I don't think so. I believe the assessment was done earlier.

Heilberg had his own assessment done first thing, probably to figure out what he'd just voluntarily stepped in. His assessment seems to have found Chris fit to face trial or there wouldn't have been the subsequent hearings. It would have gone straight tot the funny factory with Chris for lessons.

The six month continuance is usually for an attempt to restore to competence.

On paper it's to "determine competence". I don't believe the judge is qualified / permitted by law to simply declare Chris incompetent, so he shunted Chris off the the hospital to get such a "determination" from them. The state hospital then "determined" Chris competent by making him take courtroom behavior classes until they were reasonably confident he wouldn't sperg out in court again.

There's what's on paper on the official record, and then there's what they actually do. Chris, for once, seems to have given a reasonably accurate description of what the hospital actually did.

They can't really stop him from going there as a condition for release

However they CAN place him in an appropriate care facility (tard home) far away and hope it's far enough to keep him away.

They're required to *help* Chris, but they're not required to force him to accept help.

They're required to help Chris, but they're not required to find more than one way to help him. Chris has the right to choose between what the state offers and, well, nothing.

A motel room is not viable long-term,

It doesn't have to be long-term. They usually pay for seven days with a reminder to attend the mandated therapy appointments. That's still a possibility for Chris, assuming the court just wants to dump him.

I would feel bad for whatever No-Tell Motel they shoved him in.

Chris would be lucky beyond belief to get a No-Tell Motel. No-Tell Motels are several levels up from the absolute fleabags flops they use for temporary indigent housing.

School shooter arc has been avoided

Chris is too lazy. He's not going to spend money for guns when he can spend it on some lego.

Homeless shelters are the 21st century equivalent to Dickensian workhouses.

It depends on the shelter. Also on the homeless.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

But I digress...



Doesn't mean a thing. Wasn't done because Chris enjoys wanking. Was done because he was worried that his becoming a 'woman' might mean that he wouldn't have the sperm to guarantee creating his God-and-Bear-ordained daughter Crystal, so he panicked and stockpiled as much as he could.

Necessity rather than pleasure.

And for those Lesbians trying for In Vitro, but failed against the virility of a troll/porn star.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

And for those Lesbians trying for In Vitro, but failed against the virility of a troll/porn star.

I can just imagine Chris looking into sperm storage costs, finding out there expensive looking up how to store sperm, getting that it's frozen but not much else and then digging out some cleaner than average tupperware in the horde writing his name on the box and then telling Barb not to use it.

 

[Male Idiot]

Oh, he will skate.
He's the one with the slick bent dick to which charges won't stick. The teflon hard-on.

He's going to come out of jail a toughened single tomboy with a new found level of notoriety. He was mentioned on Tucker Carlson. He trended on Twitter. He's practically a household name at this point, tons of retarded normies know about Chris Chan. He'll have a whole line of people clamoring to have him move in with them, e-girls sending him nudes trying to be his online GF for clout, business deals from idiot entrepreneurs with no understanding of internet culture, media outlets supporting him as a victimized trans woman. Years of fame, and just as many years of sweet government tugboat.

Every day it'll be like the rollin' and trollin' video, but real. Nothing but straight swagger.

Granted, it's tough to be more of a king than sitting around all day tweeting from your throne to people who live on your every word while not working a minute and having your every desire catered to by a pack of white knights and weens, living off the tax dollars of the working class sheep, playing with toys and getting laid whenever you want, but I'm sure he'll manage.

The King in stripes.

What if Barb isn't at 14BC anymore, but is ok with Chris living there?

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

What if Barb isn't at 14BC anymore, but is ok with Chris living there?

Someone mentioned somewhere, that the section 8 housing could be applied to 14BLC if he was able to get it - so it's possible.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

how quickly are those logs going to be leaked to Internet?

As fast as that blue hedgehog that ruined his life?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

@Pointless Sperg Sorry to tag you like this. Your post is long so I can't directly reply

No problem. I wish that issue didn't occur.

I guess it depends on the state. Every time I've seen a DV or abuse of a family member case there's a mandatory RO. Regardless of competency. It's not even negotiable. It's just standard. But it may very state by state.

It's more of a fast track to issuing a protective order so the petitioner doesn't have to go through the normal hoops to get it issued. The relevant Virginia code is § 16.1-253.1 and § 19.2-152.10.

It still requires a petitioner. For violent crimes, the prosecutor can do it "on behalf" of the victim, but it can only be on behalf of the victim if the victim is not in a position to disagree.

And really, even if a protective order was issued automatically, it requires the cooperation of the "victim". You can't arrest somebody for violating an order when the "victim" calls them first, or shows up at their home, etc.

(There are some extremely cruel victims who abuse orders by following the restricted person around in public places, forcing them to leave, but that doesn't work at a person's domicile.)

But yeah, when the person is a person who is their own guardian, you can't enforce it without that person's consent.

From what I understand, Alford pleas or nolo contendere are relatively rare and depending on the offense/Judge it may not even be an option. I mean, I believe no contest (throwing yourself upon the mercy of the court) is always an option, but Alford pleas aren't. I thought you had to work that out as part of a plea arrangement and that plea can be rejected through an objection or motion.

They're pretty common. About 17% of non-federal convictions in the US are from nolo or Alford pleas.

I never understood the point of the Alford plea or nolo contendere in a criminal case. You either did it, or you didn't. Any other option and you open the door to appeals. I guess you can say "I didn't do this, but I don't have enough evidence to refute the evidence against me to mount a competent defense or rebuttal". But that'd mean you're guilty.

That's exactly what an Alford plea is. Prosecutors don't like to cut deals for Alford pleas but they'll often do it just to get a case out of the way. nolos are a lot more common in plea deals.

In terms of immediate impact, there is none. It's just a guilty verdict. A nolo or Alford plea can have a follow-on effect in a separate case civil court though, where a guilty plea can be used as evidence of liability, whereas a nolo or Alford plea, while admissible in some places, does not necessarily imply liability.

Oddly, there have been conflicting rulings from federal courts, and currently a nolo plea is actually stronger for the civil defendant in terms of admissibility than an Alford plea. There's been a fair amount of controversy over this.

So if you're worried about later civil cases, plead nolo, not Alford.

In the case of someone like Chris though, it's just a matter of pride. Demanding an Alford plea is a worthless exercise in narcissism.

In the case of Ethan and his nolo, it's probably a mixture of narcissism and worry about being sued over the pics.

I don't know. I don't live in a Commonwealth state. Maybe they do things different in Commonwealths.

I don't think there's much difference. I'm not in a Commonwealth state, but from what I've seen, there's far more differences between states in general rather than there being some particular difference about states calling themselves a Commonwealth.

Wouldn’t someone like Heilberg or a court appointed social worker be there to assist him on release?
I know that it probably is not standard practice, but Chris is not a standard case.

Heilberg's job is done when the case is over. If he even checks in on Chris, it's just out of professional courtesy.

Chris will be connected to a social worker, and it's the job of the jail to see to it that that happens.

Homeless shelters are the 21st century equivalent to Dickensian workhouses.

A Victorian workhouse might actually be something that could do some good for Chris. Beating his ass until he does something productive. In some ways it would be more merciful than his tugboat.

One of the reasons Chris was denied bail for a pissant misdemeanor charge was to keep him the fuck away from 14BLC. I can't imagine the court has changed their mind about that and will send him back there now.

Just a reminder, as I've said it before, it's documented in the newspaper article. The court was offering to negotiate bail with Chris, and when the judge asked Chris what his release plan would be, that's when Chris chimped out about not being allowed to get his toys, and refused to discuss it further until the toys had been recovered.

Chris could have potentially gotten out. Chris fucked it up. Poor Heilberg, he'd only just met Chris at that hearing and didn't know what would happen.

Chris can insist on a jury trial. It might need to be part of an appeal, but he does have the right to face a jury of his (for lack of a better word) "peers". It would be an incredibly stupid thing for him to do, and I'm certain NOBODY (not even his own lawyer) is letting him know of this right, but he can do it.

Yes, it has to be on appeal. The bench trial has to complete first (which obviously means Chris has to plead not guilty). Then on appeal it goes to a jury trial in Circuit Court. This trial is de novo, so it basically becomes like the bench trial never happened and everything starts over again from scratch. It's a massive waste of time, but Virginia has weighed that more people give up in district court than if they could just jump directly to a jury trial.

Heilberg had his own assessment done first thing, probably to figure out what he'd just voluntarily stepped in. His assessment seems to have found Chris fit to face trial or there wouldn't have been the subsequent hearings. It would have gone straight tot the funny factory with Chris for lessons.

The court probably did its own assessment too.

The assessment was incompetent but restorable, so Chris was sent to get lessons. If you are ruled competent you don't get sent off for those lessons.

They don't give you a six month continuance and send you to hospital for an assessment. They do it because you failed your assessment. It's right there in the statute.

EDIT: In his most recent letter, Chris specifically uses the term "Restoration". He would not know to use that term unless he had been told that by Heilberg or the court.

This pretty much confirms that he was sent to be restored to competence, under the 6 month procedure in the relevant statute. I'll need to update the FAQ to indicate that it's confirmed.

Chris is too lazy. He's not going to spend money for guns when he can spend it on some lego.

And this is one of the strongest arguments against there being cheap guns. He did buy pepper spray after all.

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

like some shitty used van. Definitely not a full blown Winebeago or even some renovated school bus, just some dumpy panel van or minivan he sleeps in the back of while he leeches free internet from the library or starbucks he's parked near.

Used ambulances are incredibly cheap and convert to "Van Life" really easy. I helped a buddy convert one to a camper. They're already wired for 120 and you can use the medic bench as a built in bed with lots of storage underneath. A mini fridge, microwave and water storage can be fit in there easy enough with no stretcher in the way.

Of course, Chris wouldn't take the time or have the knowledge of how to do this, but I think this would be his best option for comfort and he'd have a huge canvas to paint his shit art on the panels. I'd name it Siren-chu.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Of course, Chris wouldn't take the time or have the knowledge of how to do this, but I think this would be his best option for comfort and he'd have a huge canvas to paint his shit art on the panels. I'd name it Siren-chu.

It would just become the new Son-chu.

Or if we were going by G1 lore, it'd be Ratchet-chu.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Chris soul bonded the hell out of Barbs ass and vagina.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Used ambulances are incredibly cheap and convert to "Van Life" really easy. I helped a buddy convert one to a camper. They're already wired for 120 and you can use the medic bench as a built in bed with lots of storage underneath. A mini fridge, microwave and water storage can be fit in there easy enough with no stretcher in the way.

Of course, Chris wouldn't take the time or have the knowledge of how to do this, but I think this would be his best option for comfort and he'd have a huge canvas to paint his shit art on the panels. I'd name it Siren-chu.

There was a bunch of Landrover Defender Field Ambulance conversion shells sold recently and they where snapped up by people looking for smaller campers, there was also a bunch of the dedicated Field Ambulances sold at the same time and they where selling for far more than the same van frame with a cargo bed, the real kinds though where the Comms and Officers ones with wired box's inverters and alike just add a bed and chemical toilet and your all set.

I can't see Chris adapting to Van life even for a short while unless he had no other choice and he's be looking for any way to get out of the van he could, i doubt he'd even consider the basics like water, food, power etc he'd just buy a car and sleep in it and go to mcdonnalds etc for each an every meal and drive around all day.

I see chris landing in a small 1 room bedsit deal, where he has to pay for things himself and begging for money for basic things like electricity, food, toys and games because it's unfair that he has to go without his basic creature comforts rather than trying to find some form of income that isn't from the sate each and every month.

 

[Michael Janke]

The bible is pretty cool with trying to pimp out your daughters, then getting drunk and banging them after your wife gets turned to salt.

that was the other way around wasn't it.
sodom and gamorroh were turned to salt, then his daughters got him drunk and raped him.