Debate Dom Cruise on the ethics of defending Capcom as long as you can coom to Cammy's ass

[Aquinas]

Who the fuck cares about street fighter, all the RE games, DMC5, and Dragons Dogma is based as fuck

 

[Marissa Moira]

Who the fuck cares about street fighter, all the RE games, DMC5, and Dragons Dogma is based as fuck

Dragon's Dogma came out in 2012, this is well after the period that Dom likes to reminisce about.

 

[Aquinas]

I didnt read anything in this thread and i dont know why you would assume i did

 

[TV's Adam West]

I do enjoy Cammy ass.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Let me try to explain why I'm so hung up on this issue.

I was a big gamer throughout the 2000s, I remember the controversy over GTA, I remember how literally every single person that touched a video game controller agreed Jack Thompson was a piece of shit using controversy as a way to gain clout and money, I remember everyone being anti-censorship and pro developers making whatever game they wanted.

I remember how circa 2009, some people would laugh at T&A in games as kind of silly, but nobody got genuinely OFFENDED over it, people would have looked at you like a crazy person if you started demanding that stuff be censored and would have rightfully compared you to Jack Thompson, people would have said "what's the big fucking deal?"

Then, just a few years later, in 2012 along comes Anita Sarkeesian and her demands for censorship and all of a sudden even though she's literally just Jack Thompson with hoop ear rings and lipstick, suddenly we see many gamers taking her side, taking the attitude of "censorship is good actually!" and shouting down any criticism of her, no matter how fair and respectful, as simply sexism or misogyny.

Even though we tried to argue that censorship of any kind, be it sex or violence, no matter who was calling for it, would lead to a chilling effect on creativity in the game industry, which is literally what happened, all anyone was saying is that devs should be free to make whatever kind of game they wanted, if they wanted T&A, they should be allowed to do it, if that's not what they wanted, that's fine, but now there's immense social pressure to never have it.

And it isn't just over a female character's body, it's how they are written, now under Woke feminism they can only be bland and lack the depth male characters are still allowed, I said before if things could have at least stayed at 2013 levels I could have lived with it, but people got their asses chapped over Lara Croft being in peril in the 2013 Tomb Raider game, I knew their complaints would never end, there would be literally no pleasing SJWs and shit would only get worse and worse unless people loud and clearly told them to fuck off and sadly exactly what I feared would happen, happened.

I will never not call out what happened with that shift in gaming culture as bullshit, complete fucking bullshit on every level, Woke/SJWs are completely full of shit.

Bullshit is bullshit and that was some serious bullshit.

 

[byuu]

>still crying about Anita in the year of our lord 2022

 

[Aquinas]

Let me try to explain why I'm so hung up on this issue.

I was a big gamer throughout the 2000s, I remember the controversy over GTA, I remember how literally every single person that touched a video game controller agreed Jack Thompson was a piece of shit using controversy as a way to gain clout and money, I remember everyone being anti-censorship and pro developers making whatever game they wanted.

I remember how circa 2009, some people would laugh at T&A in games as kind of silly, but nobody got genuinely OFFENDED over it, people would have looked at you like a crazy person if you started demanding that stuff be censored and would have rightfully compared you to Jack Thompson, people would have said "what's the big fucking deal?"

Then, just a few years later, in 2012 along comes Anita Sarkeesian and her demands for censorship and all of a sudden even though she's literally just Jack Thompson with hoop ear rings and lipstick, suddenly we see many gamers taking her side, taking the attitude of "censorship is good actually!" and shouting down any criticism of her, no matter how fair and respectful, as simply sexism or misogyny.

Even though we tried to argue that censorship of any kind, be it sex or violence, no matter who was calling for it, would lead to a chilling effect on creativity in the game industry, which is literally what happened, all anyone was saying is that devs should be free to make whatever kind of game they wanted, if they wanted T&A, they should be allowed to do it, if that's not what they wanted, that's fine, but now there's immense social pressure to never have it.

And it isn't just over a female character's body, it's how they are written, now under Woke feminism they can only be bland and lack the depth male characters are still allowed, I said before if things could have at least stayed at 2013 levels I could have lived with it, but people got their asses chapped over Lara Croft being in peril in the 2013 Tomb Raider game, I knew their complaints would never end, there would be literally no pleasing SJWs and shit would only get worse and worse unless people loud and clearly told them to fuck off and sadly exactly what I feared would happen, happened.

I will never not call out what happened with that shift in gaming culture as bullshit, complete fucking bullshit on every level, Woke/SJWs are completely full of shit.

Bullshit is bullshit and that was some serious bullshit.

shut the fuck up

 

[Dom Cruise]

Imagine being an ass kisser for Anita and Woke.

 

[byuu]

Imagine being an ass kisser for Anita and Woke.

Anita hasn't been relevant for years yet she's still living rent-free in your head.
Have sex.

 

[Aquinas]

Imagine being an ass kisser for Anita and Woke.

what the fuck are you even talking about, take your fucking meds

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Just a passing suggestion, but have you perhaps considered the change in the landscape of videogames was a result of changing priorities in society rather than because of some stupid Armenian lady?

Most people I know fully recognize the culture behind videogames has become dumb, but they just sort of went "Oh. Well I guess I'll do without videogames then". It's been years since I or most anyone I know has played videogames even though we all grew up with them, because it's not that big a deal. You're a grown man, you just find something else to do.

Meanwhile fat retards, control obsessed trannies, grifters, whatever, want gaming so badly because they're losers who can't do anything outside of exclusively consumption-centered mediums. So if you personally are finding it difficult to imagine life without videogames, sorry, but you might need to examine the possibility that you yourself are a fat retard.

 

[Spud]

I will never not call out what happened with that shift in gaming culture as bullshit, complete fucking bullshit on every level, Woke/SJWs are completely full of shit.

You'll be spending a lot of time screaming into the void. No normie cares about any of this, they're nigger cattle, let them play the slop that is modern gaming it's what they deserve. Don't waste your time trying to convince people who don't care just play games from the time they were good and let the nigger cattle lie in the bed they've made

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Let me try to explain why I'm so hung up on this issue.

I was a big gamer throughout the 2000s, I remember the controversy over GTA, I remember how literally every single person that touched a video game controller agreed Jack Thompson was a piece of shit using controversy as a way to gain clout and money, I remember everyone being anti-censorship and pro developers making whatever game they wanted.

I remember how circa 2009, some people would laugh at T&A in games as kind of silly, but nobody got genuinely OFFENDED over it, people would have looked at you like a crazy person if you started demanding that stuff be censored and would have rightfully compared you to Jack Thompson, people would have said "what's the big fucking deal?"

Then, just a few years later, in 2012 along comes Anita Sarkeesian and her demands for censorship and all of a sudden even though she's literally just Jack Thompson with hoop ear rings and lipstick, suddenly we see many gamers taking her side, taking the attitude of "censorship is good actually!" and shouting down any criticism of her, no matter how fair and respectful, as simply sexism or misogyny.

Even though we tried to argue that censorship of any kind, be it sex or violence, no matter who was calling for it, would lead to a chilling effect on creativity in the game industry, which is literally what happened, all anyone was saying is that devs should be free to make whatever kind of game they wanted, if they wanted T&A, they should be allowed to do it, if that's not what they wanted, that's fine, but now there's immense social pressure to never have it.

And it isn't just over a female character's body, it's how they are written, now under Woke feminism they can only be bland and lack the depth male characters are still allowed, I said before if things could have at least stayed at 2013 levels I could have lived with it, but people got their asses chapped over Lara Croft being in peril in the 2013 Tomb Raider game, I knew their complaints would never end, there would be literally no pleasing SJWs and shit would only get worse and worse unless people loud and clearly told them to fuck off and sadly exactly what I feared would happen, happened.

I will never not call out what happened with that shift in gaming culture as bullshit, complete fucking bullshit on every level, Woke/SJWs are completely full of shit.

Bullshit is bullshit and that was some serious bullshit.

I'm not going to read any of this and say stop cooming to virtual women, it's unhealthy. It's weird.
You're weird.

 

[Nobunaga]

I was a big gamer throughout the 2000s

He just can't help himself
He said the fucking thing
I clapped

 

[Dom Cruise]

Anita hasn't been relevant for years yet she's still living rent-free in your head.
Have sex.

Thankfully the grift didn't work out as well for her personally as she would have liked, she isn't relevant now, but she set the tone for the zeitgeist for the last ten years, she set the playbook for using the identity card and the "help, I'm being harassed!" grift that far too many people have used even if it all eventually outgrew being centered around her.

But it all started with her, she literally ruined pop culture in the US.

Just a passing suggestion, but have you perhaps considered the change in the landscape of videogames was a result of changing priorities in society rather than because of some stupid Armenian lady?

Most people I know fully recognize the culture behind videogames has become dumb, but they just sort of went "Oh. Well I guess I'll do without videogames then". It's been years since I or most anyone I know has played videogames even though we all grew up with them, because it's not that big a deal. You're a grown man, you just find something else to do.

Meanwhile fat retards, control obsessed trannies, grifters, whatever, want gaming so badly because they're losers who can't do anything outside of exclusively consumption-centered mediums. So if you personally are finding it difficult to imagine life without videogames, sorry, but you might need to examine the possibility that you yourself are a fat retard.

There's more to life than video games, I know, but it still sucks that what used to be a fun hobby was ruined by assholes coming along and shitting all over it.

It meant a lot to me and it's hard for me to let it go, it is what it is.

But yeah, it's getting obvious at this point it's so infested with AIDS that at some point you're going to have to just walk away, it's already been years by this point that I've played a new game developed in the west, my focused has shifted towards Japan.

Still, I will never not be bitter about what the assholes did to gaming, it will never not sting.

I guess I should be thankful I got to see gaming when it was good, but the good days ended far sooner than they should have.

You'll be spending a lot of time screaming into the void. No normie cares about any of this, they're nigger cattle, let them play the slop that is modern gaming it's what they deserve. Don't waste your time trying to convince people who don't care just play games from the time they were good and let the nigger cattle lie in the bed they've made

Starting in 2010 a lot of time I've spent gaming has been playing catch up on what I've missed or revisiting old favorites, the more time has gone on, the more the balance has shifted from new games to old games.

And even after a decade+ there's still tons of quality old games I haven't played, but we've lost something if new games cease to be worth playing, we've lost that awesome experience of seeing gaming grow and evolve, that "wow" moment when something came along that totally rewrote the rules of what you thought was possible, retro games are great but seeing things take a step forward was always what was most exciting about gaming, if we've lost that, we've lost something dear.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I'm not going to read any of this and say stop cooming to virtual women, it's unhealthy. It's weird.
You're weird.

If you had bothered to read the post you'd know my point was that it's not just about sexy virtual women, it's about the chilling effect the Woke climate has had on all artistry in video gaming, it's about the way dangerhairs have been able to use the Woke climate to get jobs they don't have the actual talent for which shits up the whole entire process of development, have you ever noticed how glitchy so many games have got?

It started as an argument over sexy virtual women, it wound up being something that destroyed video games entirely.

You can give not a single shot about sexy women in games, but if you care about gaming at all what you should care about is the wider Woke climate and seen through their grift of using sexy women as just the excuse to seize control of the entire thing, but because of people like you who didn't help nip the shit in the bud and said "whatever" because it's "gross" to like sexy virtual women, congrats, gaming was ruined in part thanks to people like you not understanding that IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE T&A, IT'S ABOUT THE ENTIRE APPROACH TO HOW GAMES ARE MADE AND HOW IT WAS MADE WORSE BY PEOPLE FIRST GETTING A BUG UP THEIR ASS ABOUT T&A.

 

[karz]

Let me try to explain why I'm so hung up on this issue.

I was a big gamer throughout the 2000s, I remember the controversy over GTA, I remember how literally every single person that touched a video game controller agreed Jack Thompson was a piece of shit using controversy as a way to gain clout and money, I remember everyone being anti-censorship and pro developers making whatever game they wanted.

I remember how circa 2009, some people would laugh at T&A in games as kind of silly, but nobody got genuinely OFFENDED over it, people would have looked at you like a crazy person if you started demanding that stuff be censored and would have rightfully compared you to Jack Thompson, people would have said "what's the big fucking deal?"

Then, just a few years later, in 2012 along comes Anita Sarkeesian and her demands for censorship and all of a sudden even though she's literally just Jack Thompson with hoop ear rings and lipstick, suddenly we see many gamers taking her side, taking the attitude of "censorship is good actually!" and shouting down any criticism of her, no matter how fair and respectful, as simply sexism or misogyny.

Even though we tried to argue that censorship of any kind, be it sex or violence, no matter who was calling for it, would lead to a chilling effect on creativity in the game industry, which is literally what happened, all anyone was saying is that devs should be free to make whatever kind of game they wanted, if they wanted T&A, they should be allowed to do it, if that's not what they wanted, that's fine, but now there's immense social pressure to never have it.

And it isn't just over a female character's body, it's how they are written, now under Woke feminism they can only be bland and lack the depth male characters are still allowed, I said before if things could have at least stayed at 2013 levels I could have lived with it, but people got their asses chapped over Lara Croft being in peril in the 2013 Tomb Raider game, I knew their complaints would never end, there would be literally no pleasing SJWs and shit would only get worse and worse unless people loud and clearly told them to fuck off and sadly exactly what I feared would happen, happened.

I will never not call out what happened with that shift in gaming culture as bullshit, complete fucking bullshit on every level, Woke/SJWs are completely full of shit.

Bullshit is bullshit and that was some serious bullshit.

If you had bothered to read the post you'd know my point was that it's not just about sexy virtual women, it's about the chilling effect the Woke climate has had on all artistry in video gaming, it's about the way dangerhairs have been able to use the Woke climate to get jobs they don't have the actual talent for which shits up the whole entire process of development, have you ever noticed how glitchy so many games have got?

It started as an argument over sexy virtual women, it wound up being something that destroyed video games entirely.

You can give not a single shot about sexy women in games, but if you care about gaming at all what you should care about is the wider Woke climate and seen through their grift of using sexy women as just the excuse to seize control of the entire thing, but because of people like you who didn't help nip the shit in the bud and said "whatever" because it's "gross" to like sexy virtual women, congrats, gaming was ruined in part thanks to people like you not understanding that IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE T&A, IT'S ABOUT THE ENTIRE APPROACH TO HOW GAMES ARE MADE AND HOW IT WAS MADE WORSE BY PEOPLE FIRST GETTING A BUG UP THEIR ASS ABOUT T&A.

 

[byuu]

Thankfully the grift didn't work out as well for her personally as she would have liked, she isn't relevant now, but she set the tone for the zeitgeist for the last ten years, she set the playbook for using the identity card and the "help, I'm being harassed!" grift that far too many people have used even if it all eventually outgrew being centered around her.

But it all started with her, she literally ruined pop culture in the US.

How is pop culture ruined? Because you're getting older and out of touch so the new things don't appeal to you anymore? Because you've already seen everything so it became much harder to find something new and exciting? Because you see many old beloved franchises whored out for cheap cashgrabs? Because the video game industry has matured and is now mostly consolidated into few huge international soulless corporations?
Or because some idiots on Twitter get mad about shit?

 

[Dom Cruise]

Look, it boils down to this, censorship is wrong, it doesn't matter what your personal tastes are, if you don't think free speech should include speech you would personally find offensive or distasteful, then you don't support free speech at all and in a climate with no free speech, artistry and creativity dies.

It's exactly the attitude of just shrugging this shit off that allowed the dangerhairs to seize control and ruin gaming, they prey on your indifference, if you were a fence sitter, congratulations, you're part of the reason of why it was ruined, you have nothing to be smug about.

Anyone with any damn sense should have told anyone clamoring for censorship to fuck off, regardless of whether you personally cared about what was being censored, the cry for censorship itself was the problem, not what it was they wanted censored.

Why are you even fucking on Kiwi Farms if free speech isn't important to you and censorship is not something you're against?

 

[Spud]

Starting in 2010 a lot of time I've spent gaming has been playing catch up on what I've missed or revisiting old favorites, the more time has gone on, the more the balance has shifted from new games to old games.

And even after a decade+ there's still tons of quality old games I haven't played, but we've lost something if new games cease to be worth playing, we've lost that awesome experience of seeing gaming grow and evolve, that "wow" moment when something came along that totally rewrote the rules of what you thought was possible, retro games are great but seeing things take a step forward was always what was most exciting about gaming, if we've lost that, we've lost something dear.

The problem is that the times and the people changed, the ease of access to making games has been a blessing and a curse. It allowed people who had an idea and knew how to express that idea in a way that people can enjoy but it's also allowed greedy soulless husks to infect and corrupt something great all because they weren't profiting from it. There has been new games worth playing, they're few but they're there so long as you're willing to put the effort to find them. Though some blame must be laid on the nigger cattle gamers who ate the slop that is yearly sequels, empty walking simulators made by empty soulless people, remakes of old games that remove content to dumb down the game for "Modern" gamers or just because they're lazy talent-less hacks and feel of the month games that come and go spawning imitators in it's wake diluting the pool even further.

I want games that expand and push on the technology we currently use to create something that can touch the soul, with stories crafted from a place of love, passion and desire to push the industry/genre to new heights. People who care deeply about games, yes in the end it is just pixels on a screen but games are a medium unlike the others, it is one where you the player are the catalyst for the story's progression and what good or bad thing happens as a result of your action, no other media achieves the level of storytelling that games can due to the interaction between player and game.

I do not worry about the puritans who screech that a digital character looks better than they do because they cannot create stories that touch the soul or challenge the way I think for they lack divinity or more so a sense of the divine to do so. Compare the works of the Renaissance artists to that of today's "Artist" and you will see what I mean by this sense of the divine, the love, passion and the time that went into creating these works of art when compared to the modern artists works the difference are day and night.