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Playing the Star Wars gag from Toy Story 2 straight would've been better than this...
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That is so fucking retarded. These people really just hate the franchise down to its roots, don't they? Maybe that's why they had to #MeToo Lasseter and get Chris Evans, John would've been very out-spoken about this, and Tim Allen wouldn't have liked this in the slightest.
I'm flabbergasted by this. Does it still not make sense in context?
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Lasseter was the one who gave this the green light back in 2016, but I imagine a lot of things were still in flux by the time he was removed. I don’t tend to get too precious about the last five to six years of Lasseter’s reign at Pixar. Brave and The Good Dinosaur are worse than anything that has come out of that studio since 2018, and both of those are the result of Lasseter micromanaging (Brave) and flat out ignoring story issues (The Good Dinosaur).
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You know, since this is meant to be a blockbuster sci-fi film in 1995, they could've structured it like one, framed the SFX shots like they did back then, maybe get Phil Tippett to direct and oversee the scenes with Zurg and his robots. Fuck, get Will Smith or Chris Tucker to voice Buzz's buddy and have Billy Corgan do a song for the end credits. If you're gonna milk the teat of nostalgia, then you better go hog wild.
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Not to mention the horrific art direction going on with it.
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It should also be noted that this sort of semi-serious approach to animated sci-fi tends to have issues attracting moviegoers. Titan AE, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet were all massive flops. Lightyear will fare better, but only because of its tenuous connection to a better franchise
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Not to mention that Lasseter was apparently a major advocate of getting their animation directors to move into live-action, which resulted in the nuclear-level clusterfucks of John Carter, Tomorrowland, and A Wrinkle in Time. Disney could probably have avoided a lot of the bad publicity over his firing if, instead purely pandering to #MeToo, they'd made it mostly about his making bad creative decisions and financial gambles that really weren't working out, with the allegations over his personal behavior simply being the last straw.
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Those movies were not greenlit by Lasseter, so, no, Disney could not have fired him on the basis of them being massive flops. The only major financial flop you can pin on him is The Good Dinosaur, and even while that fiasco was happening, Lasseter was shepherding giant hits from Walt Disney Animation Studios (Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia). And Lasseter’s firing came early enough during the MeToo movement that the company only bad publicity Disney had over it was that they didn’t do it sooner.
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I'm just surprised at how Lightyear is portrayed in this movie. It's like he's the antagonist in his own movie and then they LITERALLY made him the antagonist, but that's a different thread.. Like, I get the overall theme of the value of teamwork, but that just seems out of place in his movie. This movie is supposed to be about the HEROIC Buzz Lightyear that is Andy's hero, but he never does anything heroic really, and in fact he's portrayed as pretty selfish for the first 85% of the movie. Also, the entire plot was him failing over and over again, which could set up a hero's journey when he does succeed, except then his own command turns on him and he spends the rest of the journey "learning" why his mission ISN'T important and it's better to just learn to live with your mistakes or something? But they never explained either why the second generation didn't want to leave the planet or even why they shut down the program at all. In fact, it seemed pretty callous for the new admiral to take the old admiral's living quarters and turning them into his office, especially when it just so happened to be the day that Lightyear returned from his last mission. It's like Lightyear sacrificed watching all his friends and colleagues die around him to continue to look for a way off the planet, yet HE is the bad guy/old relic or something? And I understand the third act conflict about how it was probably too late to go back in time, but why couldn't the second generation go home? Were there too many of them at that point? And I saw that they destroyed the chip with the formula or whatever, but why couldn't the cat just remember it?
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What was the problem with that one? I know it felt so bad I couldn't watch it at all from the first poster, but what was so bad about its story?
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The artwork is hideous, definitely. Andy was never that ugly, but it seems that "ugly" is the new "pretty" in 2022.
The main thing I notice about this promotional art is that it flies in the face of one of one of the best lessons in the old Toy Story sequel-- Andy decides to "grow up" and give up on childish consumerism/toy obsession. He gives his toys away to a small child and he decides to enter adulthood officially, since he's going off to college/leaving his childhood home. He decides to enter the realm of adulthood, responsibility, and a detachment from extraneous personal possessions. So many children are emotionally attached to toys, and for many, it can become a crutch. Andy overcame that childish form of existence, and he also learned to be charitable/giving to the next generation-- by giving his cherished possessions away to someone who was age-appropriate for them, and who would appreciate them more. That message was an excellent one.
That message-- the child entering adulthood and leaving childish things behind-- however, is the one so many woke activists and large companies are trying to destroy. They WANT people to turn into perpetual children, self-centered, scared to grow up, constantly consuming more useless vanity goods, addicted to the latest tech entertainment, pining for a responsibility-free lifestyle surrounded by inanimate plastic objects.
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Sounds like that would be a fun, creative pastiche, which they'd never do because aside from creativity being dead at Disney, they don't have the necessary appreciation for 90's scifi films to make a pastiche. They don't even appreciate the previous Toy Story films all that well. (All the tism about TS4 aside, making the actual Buzz not very heroic and an asshole in his own origin story is definitely a choice. At least when Lightning Mcqueen was a selfish asshole who failed his goal in Cars the film was about him becoming a better person. )
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I’ll look for the articles later in case I’m getting details wrong, but the original characterization for the main dinosaur was that he’d be somewhat of a Seth Rogan-like man child. I don’t know if the issue was so much with the approach itself as much as Bob Peterson’s handling of it just wasn’t landing. Regardless of what it was, Lasseter allegedly brushed off concerns from other members of the brain trust and didn’t react until it was too late. The article tried to make it sound more salacious, that Lasseter was more interested in his winery than his job at Pixar, but it’s just as likely that he figured that Peterson, a longtime Pixar employee, would resolve the issues. In retrospect, I wonder if the original vision would have been any less disastrous than the one we got.
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Having not watched the film (I'll probably wait for D+ at this point), this summary seems interesting. Keyword: seems.
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Fuck off no one likes your movie because your not Tim Allen or Patrick Wartaboun. No one cares if you brother likes dick.
Also good job dinosaurs
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B-but Andy! Boys clearly loved this movie! This was his favorite movie in the 90's! It was important!
Fuck off Disney. Even a CG brainless dinosaur cashgrab is better than your bullshit.
Fuck off Disney. Even a CG brainless dinosaur cashgrab is better than your bullshit.
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I liked Zoom... was it really that bad?
I'm pretty sure its AI generated art. Those eyes are just wrong.
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So I saw Lightyear. It was alright. One of the films I've seen of all time.
The worst I can say about it is that the plot is somehow more complicated than it needs to be and not complicated enough. It's such a regular movie that I'm forgetting plot points as we speak. By the end of this year I'll probably forget the movie existed.
And to all the theories or what-have-you that Buzz Lightyear is supposed to be a real person who exists in the real life of Toy Story, that's false. At least as far as the movie's concerned, nothing like that ever happened.
Buzz-Zerg wasn't an interesting villain, to the point you could've literally had Zerg be Buzz's POC best buddy and nothing would've changed.
The worst I can say about it is that the plot is somehow more complicated than it needs to be and not complicated enough. It's such a regular movie that I'm forgetting plot points as we speak. By the end of this year I'll probably forget the movie existed.
And to all the theories or what-have-you that Buzz Lightyear is supposed to be a real person who exists in the real life of Toy Story, that's false. At least as far as the movie's concerned, nothing like that ever happened.
Buzz-Zerg wasn't an interesting villain, to the point you could've literally had Zerg be Buzz's POC best buddy and nothing would've changed.
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it was one the movies of the movies for sure