General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Avokado said:
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Avokado said:
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I guess the ambiguous tweet was this one?
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'I need time for myself' is just not a phrase you use when you were physically injured.

I know she says she wasn't thinking, but that tweet reads like it was worded deliberately.

EDIT: It is now apparently MATI to question the wording of tweets to which the wording led to a misunderstanding that caused the tweets to be posted here in the first place. Im learning new things every day.
 
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Avokado said:
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Avokado said:
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I guess the ambiguous tweet was this one?
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I look at this tweet and I realize just how much Ollie is loved/well known in the general community despite not pulling the viewer numbers that she deserves. I realize that Cover isn't actually holding their talents back from collabing and connecting with talents outside Hololive (at least, Ollie's managers doesn't), but that it's the talents that mainly stick to themselves and their communities. I don't watch much of Ollie, but as far as I heard the girl is *literally* everywhere, even at the chat of the most obscure indies.

There is some degree of management trying to control EN's collaborative attempts outside HL, like what we see with Kiara and Pomu, but I now feel stupid that I was one of the people shitting on Cover for absolutely restricting their girls to collab. I just realized that Myth is just busy most of the time, and that 3 of them are anti-social NEETs. So is the rest of Council with the exception of Bae, and even Bae was able to collab with people outside Hololive.

I say this, but I still want that Fauna/Kiara and Pomu collab.
 
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thhrang said:
Here's one that pertains to here.
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A really reasonable response honestly, given the sperging from /vt/ and the reputation that follows us probably puts her in an awkward position sometimes.

I'm not sure to what extent she realises the backlash against us/her on /vt/ is manufactured though. They act like we'd turn on her if we find out she's bisexual/she's voted democrat/any of the Zax stuff. We know, but she's not annoying about it so there's no reason to care.
 
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A Lurking Dumbass said:
There is some degree of management trying to control EN's collaborative attempts outside HL, like what we see with Kiara and Pomu, but I now feel stupid that I was one of the people shitting on Cover for absolutely restricting their girls to collab. I just realized that Myth is just busy most of the time, and that 3 of them are anti-social NEETs. So is the rest of Council with the exception of Bae, and even Bae was able to collab with people outside Hololive.

I say this, but I still want that Fauna/Kiara and Pomu collab.
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Yeah people kinda forget that only 2 out of 3 Myth members are actually sociable. Ina is an actual Neet who works a professional artist job on top of Hololive, Ame is actually surprisingly shy and only really works with fan content creators for projects, and Gura might as well be considered not-interactable unless your actually part of Hololive or Hololive affiliated.
 
Sanshain said:
Is there any comprehensive guide for learning Japanese out there that's worth a damn? I know the basic alphabet(s) and a decent number of kanji, and have Anki with a vocabulary deck, but aside from staring blankly at a screen until neuron connections form I don't really have any structure.
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Just a heads up you aint gonna learn Japanese just from watching Holo's even self teaching is almost impossible.
What i would recommend is taking some classes or going on a course for it. They will help you tremendously. Going at it solo is most peoples problems because they learn grammar but dont know structure.
If you can try get a native speaker to give you lessons. If Not you will pick up all the mistakes that the person who is teaching you learned.

-Learn Strokes for Kanji, Hira and Kana if not you're gonna be fucked
- If you can find other Japanese speakers and practise. If you go to Japan you will be fucked if you can't hold a conversation
-Dialect isnt that important its more tone of voice and pitch when it comes to speaking. Some country words might pop up but its very rare.
-Try Expeirence Japan and get a good feel for the language listen to audio books and watch stuff in the language. Don't just limit yourself to one font or a way of speaking its different for everyone.
-3-4 Hours of studying a day broken up into 1 hour blocks.

The best thing i did for learning JP was literally living in Japan.
Before coming i had studied for 2.5 years and had a grasp of the language but dropping yourself into that situation forces you to adapt to it. Some people speak slowly others fast.
Reading it is overall easier like that should take a few years but speaking is the real challenge without others around you won't be able to.

あの　男の子は　だれですか
That Boy Who Is

This is your basic translation for the language. Forget everything you know about english grammar.



Please dont message me asking for lessons or advice. There are literally more qualified people to do that online. To start off with i would recommend the books below they are fully in Japanese and are a great start at the bottom level N5
Commiting to this Language is a full time job its not 1 year and you're perfect for the rest of your life you'll be constantly learning. It could take 3 or 4 years for you to even begin to understand anything. There will be mental hurdles along the way and its your job to overcome them.
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As i posted before but ill throw some more tips in.
Look i would recommend before even starting with anything and i mean anything you drill Hira and Kana into your brain till you know it better than English because without that your brain is just gonna die. The biggest mistake people make is thinking they know it then trying to study grammar. Please learn it fluently to the point were if a symbol appeared your brain immediatly goes i know that.

Start with learning grammar the biggest problem for most people is this including me i just started learning vocab thinking that grammar would come naturally no study it learn it. The thing with Japanese sentances that i didnt mention before is that you can say them in anyway

Japanese, along with other asian languages, are context based, which means that in order to understand what you read most of the times you are required to read context previous to those sentences. Additionally, Japanese is a language that is read by blocks of text, which means that most if not almost all sentences can be rearranged in whatever order the reader wants (as long as these blocks have correct grammar usage in them.

Kanji are formulaic, and the way to read them is quite easy.
If the kanji is singled out and is surrounded by hiragana, assume its ALWAYS read with its kun reading (Japanese reading). Kun readings tend to be accompanied with each kanji’s specific verb terminations.
If you see two or more kanjis together you read them with “On” reading (Chinese reading).
There is no set order you have to follow, but I highly recommend certain kanji memorizations taking priority over others: numbers, subject-related kanjis (ore, watashi, boku, ware…), basic movement kanjis (coming and going, returning home, etc…). Also, learn the kunyomi reading of the kanjis, since they’re always related to verbs

Honestly if you have time and a fuck ton of money find a language school in Japan to go to. You can easily get N2-N1 In like 2 years.
I've been studying a little over 6 years now and i know roughly like 2040 Kanji thats what the average Japanese person knows anything after that and you are scholar level
Look there are times when you wanna just give up i did like 3 times but honestly the moment when you've studied for like 3+ years and everything just clicks nothing compares dont give up its a daunting challenge believe me but if you really wanna do it then you will have the will power to pull through.
And please for the love of god take classes with native speakers. Japanese people are mostly friendly and kind when you express an interest in their culture/language they will help you and fairly critisice you. Getting a fucking know it all westerner who thinks he's amazing will ruin it they are the worst. They will just bully you for not knowing basic things.

Another big problem is that when most people start they dont have a goal E.g. Reading, Speaking or Listening always start with one because your brain is just gonna burn out trying to learn all three take it easy and at your own pace. I went with Reading -> Listening -> Speaking.
As i mentioned in my last post about this its a very difficuly language you honestly feel for the first 7-12 months that you arent going anywhere but you are trust me, its a grind.
 
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