Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

[Lost Soul]

Lol, well yeah that's true. When owners can just lie about the breed, and there's practically no real enforcement to speak of, naturally the overall effect is minimal. That doesn't change the fact that pits maul at a much higher rate than other breeds, rather than just biting, which is the main point I was trying to get at.

This doesn't just happen when reporting dogs to the state upon obtaining a dog license tag. I know this isn't what you indicated, but just wanted to point out to others:

Many people don't even GET a dog license so how is anyone going to "enforce" anything. As you stated, breeders and rescues lie. Shelters lie.
Then, because it is on paper, they can lie to their insurance and lie to their landlord (if they are renting). When I had been renting, I knew there were banned breed for the complex including, but not limited to, Pits, German Shepherds, Dobermans, and Rotties. This stopped NO ONE. Almost every single dog in the complex was one of the banned breeds. I think maybe only three were not. As long as the paper comes back from the vet with ANYTHING else, they don't have the two cents of braincells to look at the dog and go "yep, that's a pit!" Or they don't care, it's just free money to them, and since the liability is signed off by the tenant it doesn't matter on the safety of the rest of the people around them.

Pit bulls are also, year after year, are the breed responsible for the highest number of fatalities. They kill more people than all other dog breeds combined. Now I don't think they should all be rounded up and killed or anything, but a good argument could be made for at least requiring that they be spayed or neutered. The people who tend to breed pit bulls have shown for long enough that they are not a responsible group. Sure, there are irresponsible breeders of all sorts of dogs, but pit bull breeders are almost always greasy assholes or criminals looking to make money, or they are dogfighers. Pit bulls are also clogging most shelters in the US and a high proportion of pit bulls born are likely euthanized at shelters. Enough is enough.

Surprised more statistics have not been dropped here on this topic.

A good study/information I found: European Study of Dog Bite Fatalities Suggests Rise in Deaths Could be Due to Increasing Number of Dangerous Breeds
Some highlights...
Found it interesting how the US version was stated to have been basically watered down to reduce the severity of the situation.
Really good read overall with plenty of resources at the bottom of the article.

Given that this study is open access, we will only address a few key parts in various sections. In the introduction, we were struck by the bold language in the second paragraph that describes the injuries victims sustain in severe and fatal dog attacks. A face being "ripped off" and "decapitation has been reported" are not phrases we see in US peer-review. The two decapitations involved an attack by a pit bull and a "large male mixed-breed terrier." Both victims were male infants.2,3

Attacks that cause severe injury or death in a human victim are relatively rare, but when they do occur, the dogs tend to drag their preys down or bite the limbs in order to disable the victim, and then continue biting. Dogs in fatal attacks have often targeted the "throat, neck, or cranium, and if the attack continues, death will finally result from asphyxiation, exsanguination, or a fractured cranium and its complications". The neck is the most common area for fatal attacks by predatory wild canids, presumably because this site is the most vulnerable. The victim’s scalp and/or face can be severely damaged and even ripped off, with exsanguination as on consequence. Also decapitation has been reported. Severe dog attacks are characterized by repeated, focused biting and shaking until the victim is no longer moving, and that the victim or any person intervening having extreme difficulties ending the attack. - (Sarenbo et al., 2021)

In the US, there is rarely an effort by police to find the source of the fatally attacking dog (parental material) or the dog's siblings that came from the same litter. In the US, after a dog kills a person, officials quickly adopt out any puppies the dog may have had. The scientific "heritability of behavior," particularly aggressive behavior, is rarely researched in the US. When realized, heritability of abnormal aggression destroys the false claim, "It's all how you raise them."4

Breeding, marketing and selling "high-risk breeds" and the liability of breeders needs to be discussed in connection with fatal dog attacks. Important information includes who bred and raised the dog in question, if there were more litters from same parental material, the criteria the breeders used when selecting the breeding stock and to whom is the breeder sells the puppies. However, the traceability of dogs to their breeder is typically not possible in Europe because only one EU member state, Belgium, registers hobby breeders. The lack of breeder traceability has been described as "a potential source of risk to the health of not only the animals but also the public". - (Sarenbo et al., 2021)

The authors also comment on the dangerous false claims made by kennel clubs, regarding pit bulls and children. These false claims in the UKC, AKC and KC breed standards for pit bull breeds are responsible for children being killed by these dogs every year. The authors comment on the Nanny Dog myth invented by a Staffordshire bull terrier fancier as well. "The marketing of dog breeds as 'nanny dogs' should be prohibited because there is no evidence that such dogs exist."5

Breeds such as Pit Bull terrier and Staffordshire Bull terrier are described in Breed Standards as "excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children" or "Highly intelligent and affectionate especially with children" despite their history as fighting dogs, their weight and strength. Their specific style of biting, "hold and tear", can cause fatal injuries in minutes, and the biting combined with violent shaking exacerbates the injuries. Additionally, bull breeds are known to be aggressive to other dogs, which indirectly increases the risk of injuries to humans who may try to protect their own dogs from the attacking dog…
Second, the marketing of dog breeds as "nanny dogs" should be prohibited because there is no evidence that such dogs exist. Third, we believe that all dogs should be traceable to their breeder, that dogs belonging to high-risk breeds should wear a muzzle when visiting public areas, and never left under supervision of inexperienced temporary keepers. - (Sarenbo et al., 2021)

That aside, I did want to touch on the shelter thing too. What I find most interesting and easy to see are the types of dogs in the shelter within the US. You can look up any of them and the majority will be pit or pit mixes. So far the only one that hasn't been this case has been some in CA. My guess with CA is that it is just a either A. Rich people who think they can handle a dog but can't so they dump it regardless of the breed or B. People thinking they can afford a dog in CA but can't due to the high CoL.

Some quick shelters I checked:

https://nycacc.app/#/

https://www.humanesocietyncfl.org/adopt/dogs-puppies/

https://spca.org/adopt/find-a-pet/dogs/ - This one had a bit more variety.
https://www.laanimalservices.com/adopt/finding-a-companion/ - Way more variety, but also have over 1k dogs at this time. You could argue this is only due to the sheer amount of people in the state.

http://petharbor.com/chicago/

Meanwhile

https://lesamisdesanimaux.com/our-dogs/

https://furryrescueitaly.com/adoptions/

https://www.rspca.org.uk/findapet?p_p_id=petSearch2016_WAR_ptlPetRehomingPortlets&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_petSearch2016_WAR_ptlPetRehomingPortlets_action=search#onSubmitSetHere

The US really needs to stop this shit.

 

[Megalodon Jaw]

Wow it's rare that you find animalfags that understand what a cat is and what it does, good on them

Keeping a cat inside is like keeping it in prison, like a bird in a cage. Cats are ranging predators, they're built (physically and psychologically) for wandering their territory. They're extremely adept at surviving outdoors. They like to prowl around and get in altercations with other cats and cat accessories. A good cat will yell at you to let it out in the morning or whenever, and then come back at night to eat and sleep (usually you can call them in). It may not be much of a lap cat, but keeping a slave cat locked up so you can make it your cuddle toy is extremely feminine (disgusting).

Yeah they can get hit by cars and killed by coyotes or whatever, that's life, it ends, at least you didn't steal the poor cat's agency from it and turn it into a stuffed animal. My (genetically) barncat Tabby had a rich and long life roaming the neighborhoods we lived in, and he didn't even get skunked that often. Eventually he got hit by a car, and it was sad, but he LIVED and lived well and I would never consider confining a cat to the house after that experience. (Actually the fucker refused to be confined, once he got some size on him and learned hwat outside was he would bang on the door and yowl until you let him out)

The cats we got are inside outside cats and are allowed outside when they want. I personally would have an indoor cat with lots of cat space but they grew up that way and its not fair on them not letting them out. Cats are fine to be inside just give them lots of space with lots of things to do.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

Save a kid, eat a pit.

 

[Elysian]

extremely feminine (disgusting).

lmao, sounds pretty gay m8.

Can dogs with bite histories even be rehabilitated? My mom told me that my grandad on her side had her childhood pet put down the day after he bit someone for the first (and last) time, because apparently once a dog has tasted blood it’s never the same ever again. He might have just been looking for an excuse to put the dog down so he’d have more beer money though.

 

[Lost Soul]

lmao, sounds pretty gay m8.

Can dogs with bite histories even be rehabilitated? My mom told me that my grandad on her side had her childhood pet put down the day after he bit someone for the first (and last) time, because apparently once a dog has tasted blood it’s never the same ever again. He might have just been looking for an excuse to put the dog down so he’d have more beer money though.

I have heard this brought up before and am unsure if this is true or not for dogs. I do, however, know this heavily gets brought up when talking about wild animals. My guess is people see the articles about the wild animals then assume it is the same for their pets. So if you are one that wants to categorize certain, or all, breeds as "wild" then in theory it could fall into that same basket.

History books and newspaper archives contain plenty of stories about serial maneaters that have gotten a “taste for blood.” But there’s no research to back that up, for a decent reason: To test whether an animal that preyed on a human is likely to repeat the behavior, you’d have to wait to see if it attacks a person again. “It wouldn’t be a study we would want to do,” said David Steen, a wildlife ecologist at Auburn University. But Craig Packer, a University of Minnesota biologist who’s spent decades researching big cats including maneaters, said there are credible cases of individual animals that have acquired a preference for two-legged prey, particularly in rural communities in Africa and Asia. One such serial killer was the lion of Mfuwe, Zambia, whose 1991 reign of terror ended when a California hunter killed it. “In an undisturbed situation, they’re going to eat what their mothers and grandmothers have always eaten. That does not include garbage; that does not include 2-year-old children. But when circumstances change, then they will adapt,” Packer said. When monkeys “figure out there’s a trash heap at a lodge, they keep coming back, because it’s there, it’s easy, and it’s already cooked. Certain individuals become cattle-killers, if they’re lions or hyenas. And with maneaters, that seems to be the case as well.”

This can happen when other prey is scarce, sometimes due to loss of habitat. Packer said that when farmers in Mozambique slept in their fields to protect crops from wild pigs, lions that followed the pigs happened upon another nutrient-dense food source. “There’s no impala. There’s no wildebeest,” Packer said. “But there’s meat walking around in shoes.” Packer said wildlife managers work hard to mitigate these conflicts, both by teaching people to avoid them and by tracking and killing the offender. The latter can prevent indiscriminate killings, he said, which often happen after lions kill valuable cattle. But he said killing a suspected maneater, even without being absolutely sure it’s the guilty party, is the right strategy. “Oh yeah, no question. You’ve got to get rid of them once they start doing it,” he said. “When it’s people, you don’t want to take chances.”

Source: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article85197672.html#storylink=cpy

Most recently, a ravenous leopard in Nepal is believed to have killed and consumed at least 15 people over the past 15 months.


"It is not out of the realm of possibility that some individual animals may learn to target humans," George Burgess, director of the Florida Program for Shark Research, told Discovery News. "Large cats may come to view us as easy pickings under some circumstances."

In the case of the man-eating leopard in Nepal, a taste for salt might explain the horrific deaths, which last week likely included a 4-year-old boy whose head was found in a forest near his home.

Maheshwor Dhakal of the Department of National Parks and Wildlife Conservation in Kathmandu believes that as soon as leopards and other big cats start to prey upon humans, it is difficult to get them to stop.

"Since human blood has more salt than animal blood, once wild animals get the taste of salty blood, they do not like other animals like deer," Dhakal told CNN.

But developing a taste for humans, or anything, requires a learning process based on past experience. That isn't possible unless the predator can frequently encounter the "food source."

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna49734403

I know these are not actual study articles, but I wanted to provide these not only as context for why it might be happening in the wild, but also where others are most likely getting this source of information and drawing that connection. If a news outlet is reporting a big cat can start preferring humans, why can't your pet do the same?

 

[Chewing Character]

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hummm yeah, tell me more about BSL efficacy

Did you even read this infographic before you posted it? This isn’t the epic anti-BSL pwn you think it is.

 

[Sneaky khajiit]

I have heard this brought up before and am unsure if this is true or not for dogs. I do, however, know this heavily gets brought up when talking about wild animals. My guess is people see the articles about the wild animals then assume it is the same for their pets. So if you are one that wants to categorize certain, or all, breeds as "wild" then in theory it could fall into that same basket.





I know these are not actual study articles, but I wanted to provide these not only as context for why it might be happening in the wild, but also where others are most likely getting this source of information and drawing that connection. If a news outlet is reporting a big cat can start preferring humans, why can't your pet do the same?

Mary Roach's latest book (Fuzz) has a section on "maneater" animals, if you're into reading that sort of thing from a definitely pop-sci perspective. From what I remember it mostly focused on maneating wild animals in India.

 

[contradiction of terns]

Disclaimers:

• This post is going to go some dark places. I'm not going to add any of the NSFW (Gore) images, but I will be linking out to things like dogs being cannibalized by other dogs in their shelter kennel. If these things upset you don't fucking follow the links. I will put warnings on them. That is all.
  
  
• I support ethically run shelters and am pro-spay/neuter. I apologize in advance if I shit on your preferred nonprofit.
  
  
• There is so much content here and I'm only one person. Everything included will be archived, but I will need more time to compile a full dox on the people this post will introduce you to. Any help in archiving the longer videos is especially appreciated.

Battle Royale of the Century!

A Soy-and-Self-Righteousness fueled Vegan Autist Activist vs. The Lawsuit Plagued ÜberKaren that wants to send YOU home with a face-eating pitbull!
No matter who loses, Kiwi Farms wins.


In the challenger's corner is Nathan J. Winograd of The No-Kill Advocacy Center:

NathanWinograd.com (Archive)
NoKillAdvocacyCenter.org (Archive)
Nathan J. Winograd has authored multiple books:



And also produced a documentary:

Here is a quick assortment of tweets to give you an idea of his activism:


(Archive 1), (Archive 2), (Archive 3)

His career goes back to the 1990s when he tried to run a PR campaign for the SPCA to rehab the image of the pitbull breed but failed miserably. Here is a quote from an article about Winograd's heavyweight archnemesis Kristen Hassen. Winograd earns an honorable mention. Animals 24/7's article airing the beef between Asheville Bears (a rescue) and Kristen Hassen of Pets Alive! and Maddie's Fund.

“St. Francis terriers”​

The most spectacular failure of Avanzino’s 39 years in animal advocacy, presaging Hassen’s advice, may have been his 1996 attempt to rehome pit bulls by renaming them “St. Francis terriers.”

Advised by then-San Francisco SPCA Law & Advocacy department chief Nathan Winograd, who founded the No Kill Advocacy Center in 2007, and by then-San Francisco SPCA chief dog trainer Jean Donaldson, Avanzino argued that pit bulls might be dangerous chiefly in response to human expectations.

Changing the name, Avanzino, Winograd, and Donaldson contended, might change the expectations and the dogs’ behavior.
About 60 so-called St. Francis terriers were placed, after extensive screening and training, but within weeks Avanzino reluctantly suspended the program after several of the re-dubbed dogs killed cats.

In short, Nathan J. Winograd isn't really the hero of this story. He has his own agenda because he's pulling $5 million dollars a year from the State of California to perform No-Kill activism. However, he is DEEP into the US shelter ecosystem and knows where all the bodies are buried. He's a disgruntled former volunteer for the Pets Alive! Franchise and has declared a personal jihad against Pets Alive! Franchise Director Kristen Hassen. Which brings us to...

The Contender: Kristen Auerbach-Hassen of Pets Alive!/Maddie's Fund



This woman is so spectacularly crazy it's easier to use the Asheville Bear's article to explain what's going on with her, so have some quotes:

“Maybe one day, instead of Kristen Hassen just facing civil lawsuits as a shelter director, and the shelter having to write a check that doesn’t affect her, Hassen will be charged as criminally responsible for willful endangerment.

“Kristen Hassen has already [been a principal in] two different lawsuits,” Logan mentioned, one from Hassen’s tenure as director of the Fairfax County Animal Shelter in Virginia, the other from her subsequent tenure heading the Pima County Animal Care Department in Tucson, Arizona.

“We at Paw Protectors Rescue ” Logan continued, “support that in California the law says that you must disclose as a rescue or shelter, in writing, if a dog over the age of four months has a bite history.”

Hassen is allegedly responsible for adopting out dogs that killed their owners.

Hassen at the Fairfax County Animal Shelter rehomed several pit bulls with dangerous history, some of them repeatedly after they were returned by adopters, allegedly without disclosing that history to the next adopters.

Partially responding to those cases, some of which resulted in dog deaths and injuries to humans, but mostly to the June 1, 2017 fatal mauling of Virginia Beach resident Margaret M. Colvin, the Virginia state assembly on March 30, 2018 enacted a law requiring that the bite histories of impounded or owner-surrendered dogs must be investigated, and must be disclosed to prospective adopters.

Colvin was killed by a pit bull named Blue, just six hours after Forever Home Rescue & Rehabilitation delivered him to her daughter Linda Colvin Patterson, without disclosing that Blue had attacked a child in December 2016, had been passed along through five other rescue organizations during the next six months, and had been returned to Forever Home Rescue & Rehabilitation after a previous adoption failed due to dangerous behavior.

Hassen actively advocates for concealing the bite histories of aggressive dogs.

Moving on to the Austin Animal Shelter in Texas, Hassen replaced traditional temperament testing with the “playgroup” approach advocated by Dogs Playing for Life founder Aimee Sadler, whose work was sponsored by the pit bull advocacy organization Animal Farm Foundation, specifically to promote pit bull adoptions.

(See What is the Austin Animal Center doing to dogs in the name of “play”? and Austin Animal Services: “On the far side of stupid”.)

Hassen had on February 18, 2016 published an article on the Animal Farm Foundation web site arguing, as she now does for Maddie’s Fund, that animal shelters should withhold information about potentially dangerous dogs from prospective adopters until after they become seriously interested in a dog.

She basically just moves around from shelter to shelter to keep ahead of the lawsuits.

Hassen next headed the Pima County Animal Care Department in Tucson, Arizona for three years, before joining Maddie’s Fund in September 2020.

Hassen in Pima County was named as a defendant in at least one lawsuit involving injuries inflicted on two plaintiffs by a recently rehomed Rottweiler.

Nathan J. Winograd throws the first punch with the interesting accusation that Kristen Hassen is 'inhumanely woke.'

Most of the content I quote from now on will come from Nathan J. Winograd's substack. I will primarily be reviewing an article he wrote called 'The Co-optation of Austin Pets Alive'. This article contains graphic images of cannibalized dogs, dead kittens, and other gore. If you can stomach it, feel free to check it out. The Co-Optation of Austin Pets Alive (This is the archive).

Hassen has enthusiastically and uncritically promoted books and journal articles whose authors offered some of the most extreme and abusive anti-animal positions, saying they got it “right” and referring to them as “heroes,” including those that:

• Defend dogfighters like Michael Vick, arguing that they should not be prosecuted because they are “victims” of “white cis heteropatiarchy” that enables “toxic masculinities”;
  
  
• Criticize placing dogs who survived dogfighting in caring, family homes because “they were effectively segregated from Blackness”;
  
  
• Call for permitting dogs to be left on chains 24/7, if they live with people of color;
  
  
• Call for more animals to be killed in pounds or left on the streets instead of rescued and placed in family homes so as not to promote “settler-colonial and racist dynamics of land allocation”;
  
  
• Defend backyard breeding as “queer affiliations,” even in cases where selling puppies is intended to supplement drug dealing income;
  
  
• Criticize the use of technology, like wheelchairs, to allow disabled animals to run again, claiming it “erases” disabled people and does “violence to nonnormative bodies”;
  
  
• Claim rescuers who require dogs they adopt to sleep in the house are using “the animals as instruments for reproducing whiteness” since black people can’t help but treat animals “as resources, whether protective (as in guarding) or financial (as in breeding or possibly fighting)”; and,
  
  
• Defend the harpooning of whales and clubbing of seals because of “native cosmologies.”

The backstory to these accusations is documented in Nathan J. Winograd's article Sacrificing Animals on the Altar of Critical Race Theory which is actually pretty good and SFW. Those interested in similar works by Winograd may wish to read In a Race to the Bottom, Critical Race Theory Legitimizes Bestiality.

I would personally like to add that while this is the image Pets Alive! tries to cultivate:

This is the reality at the chain of thrift stores Austin Pets Alive! operates:



Nathan J. Winogard alleges that the following video shows Pets Alive! staff telling a person with a stray dog to dump it back on the street where they found it.

The Sad Story of Saint

This is all quoted from Nathan J. Winograd's article about Austin Pets Alive!

Recently, a staff member at the Philadelphia, PA, pound physically abused a dog named Saint. Saint was placed in a kennel “with a jaw broken so badly that [he] couldn't close his mouth.” Instead of providing veterinary care, Aurora Velazquez, the director, “instructed staff to kill Saint by the end of the shelter's operating hours that day.” After being killed, his body was quickly disposed of, with Velazquez refusing to return it to his family. No investigation was launched in order to hold the perpetrator accountable (he still reportedly works there). Saint’s family claims it is a wilful cover-up of a crime and indicated that they asked the District Attorney to investigate.

Saint paid the ultimate price for Velazquez’ gross indifference, but he was not the only one to suffer. “I was screaming, I was crying, and I didn’t understand,” said a member of his despondent family. “He died alone.”

Following Saint’s killing, the state conducted an inspection at the animal “shelter” and uncovered other neglect and abuse: extensive filth and feces and dogs not being examined or treated. In a rare action reserved only for the most extreme cases, the Pennsylvania dog warden ordered Velazquez and her staff to provide immediate care for dogs and “made a referral to law enforcement authorities for animal cruelty charges,” the second criminal referral in as many months and a devastating indictment of Velazquez’ failure to protect and properly care for the animals in her custody.

Under a cloud of ethical and criminal misconduct, and the chorus of dog lovers across the nation demanding accountability, the Board of Directors of the organization that runs the pound accepted the resignations of Velazquez and her hand-picked shelter manager.

'He Died Alone' - CBS Philly (Archive), Inspection Results (Archive)

Austin Pets Alive (APA), a Texas-based organization that once championed No Kill efforts to reform “shelters,” also weighed in on the case, but not by coming to the defense of the dogs. Instead, Kristen Hassen, an APA director, rallied to both Velazquez and her manager. In addition to several comments on Facebook in defense of Velazquez (“It’s such a difficult time for shelters and shelter workers”) and reprimanding shelter reformers who demanded less killing, medical care for ill and injured animals, and clean kennels (“it’s really disheartening this is how you are spending your time”), Hassen also led a live, internet roundtable with the two in which she heaped praise on them. She said nothing about the filth the dogs were forced to live in, the lack of veterinary care, the suffering, the abuse, and the killing, the fact that her staff broke Saint’s jaw and then Velazquez ordered him killed, leaving his family in tatters. In fact, the dogs weren't even mentioned at all.

Please help me archive this, Kiwibros!

Instead, APA shifted the narrative from talking about the animals to how to get people to stop criticizing Velazquez, something Philadelphia’s rescuers, volunteers, reform advocates, and taxpayers who fund the facility have a First Amendment right to do. APA ignored evidence that suggests Velazquez covered up the crime or the shift from a routine to a criminal investigation after state inspection of the pound. They also ignored her threatening to kill dogs if rescuers publicize mistreatment at the pound.

Hassen called the abusers the true “victims” and likened the public demands for accountability which led to their subsequent resignations to one of the darkest days in the movement: “the likes of which we haven’t really seen.” Of course, what Saint went through was demonstrably worse. He was physically abused, allowed to languish in pain with no care, subsequently killed, then turned to ash. But most striking of all was Hassen's attempt to portray the public outcry, criminal referrals, and resignation of the perpetrators as a defeat, when, from a No Kill and animal rights perspective, it was the opposite.

For some, APA’s position might be shocking as it is certainly true that at one time, Austin Pets Alive would have defended the dogs being neglected, physically abused, and then needlessly killed, rather than the director responsible for those things. Clearly, APA's definition of what constitutes a tragedy has changed, and along with these changing priorities has come not only different language, but the embrace of an old agenda, one the No Kill movement was founded to replace.

Austin Pets Alive also tasked the director of the Memphis pound to lead that committee, even though that director routinely breaks the law by refusing to provide public records that would shed light on why so many animals are dying in their cages. She also has a history of violating the First Amendment rights of rescuers by denying them the ability to rescue animals she is threatening to kill if they criticize conditions in the shelter.

Nathan J. Winogard further alleges that the Pets Alive! Franchise invited a shelter Director with a known history of abusing animals to speak at their conference.
He's really not kidding. If he says he's going to show you dead dogs, he is. Don't follow the links if you can't handle that.

Despite pleas from shelter reform advocates not to promote her, Austin Pets Alive featured the director of the El Paso pound as a 2020 speaker at their conference, even though under her neglectful oversight, dogs froze to death on one occasion and, on another, were cannibalized.

This includes dogs being mauled by other dogs, one dead puppy covered in blood with his forelimb gnawed to the bone. Cats were not spared her gross neglect either.

Unfortunately, this is all I have time for this round.

In my next post I will be highlighting information from Nathan Winogard regarding human trafficking of Humane Society of the United States volunteers and the combined efforts of the HSUS and the Pets Alive! Franchise to start breeding puppies at non-profit animal shelters.

So it was about unethical breeders all along, you see.

 

[AnOminous]

Pretty sure people don't hate pit bulls for how they look but for how they massacre their kids.

 

[Kabuki Actor]

Pretty sure people don't hate pit bulls for how they look but for how they massacre their kids.

I do, call me shallow.

 

[Adamska]

Pretty sure people don't hate pit bulls for how they look but for how they massacre their kids.

I dislike Pits because of the mongoloid retards who keep getting them myself. Since it's often the shit owners as much as the breed itself that leads to face rippings.

They're dumb as fuck. Either you train them to guard, or you train them out of their aggression. You can't have them do both.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

Pretty sure people don't hate pit bulls for how they look but for how they massacre their kids.

As if the looks aren't directly related anyway. They don't have those wide chests, lean legs, and massively wide heads and jaws for nothing.

 

[Lost Soul]

As if the looks aren't directly related anyway. They don't have those wide chests, lean legs, and massively wide heads and jaws for nothing.

But muh nanny dog!

 

[AnOminous]

As if the looks aren't directly related anyway. They don't have those wide chests, lean legs, and massively wide heads and jaws for nothing.

Plenty of dogs are physically capable of ripping humans to shreds. Not one other breed is even close to pit bulls. The second most identified breed are Rottweilers and pit bulls have over 500% of the fatal attacks they do.

 

[BunchofMunch]

But muh nanny dog!

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That prong collar in the second pic though...

 

[BlueSpark]

Please help me archive this, Kiwibros!

@contradiction of terns here you go, bro (the audio desynch when some of them are talking is in the original video, the crop-ing was by me to make the video filesize smaller):

 

[Product Placement]

With the saveafox stuff and now this other animal shelter horror stories, maybe worth someone making a animal shelter and animal "rights activists" horror show thread.

 

[contradiction of terns]

@contradiction of terns here you go, bro (the audio desynch when some of them are talking is in the original video, the crop-ing was by me to make the video filesize smaller):

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God bless you, bruv. I figured out how to archive shorter videos, but since I'm too retarded to figure out video editing I struggle with the compression/cropping necessary to upload longer vids. I'm trying to do my due diligence with archiving here and it's a mountain of material, so I am serious when I say you're doing the Lord's Work lending a hand. Thank you!

Pretty sure people don't hate pit bulls for how they look but for how they massacre their kids.

I know you are pretty good with the legalese, so I have to ask:

She also has a history of violating the First Amendment rights of rescuers by denying them the ability to rescue animals she is threatening to kill if they criticize conditions in the shelter.

If the Government holds a gun to a dog's head and tells you, 'If you report my animal abuse and neglect I will shoot this dog', is that actually a First Amendment violation?


Unrelated to the above, I am going to drop the last bit of APA! stuff I have. This will be short and sweet since I've already sperged more than enough.
Archive of Nathan Winograd's article, 'Snatching Defeat From the Jaws of Victory.'

HSUS wants shelters to start breeding puppies.
The proposal is being promoted at their 2022 national conference.

Specifically, the workshop’s presenters — including a pound director who kills six out of 10 dogs, a “behaviorist” who calls for killing rather than training dogs, and a professor who thinks shelters ought to provide free vaccination for the dogs of dogfighters rather than rescuing the dogs and arresting their abusers — are arguing that “shelters in high-demand areas” should “start[ ] their own breeding programs” in order to meet demand for puppies; a proposal Time magazine calls, “a shocking idea, like a cocktail hour at rehab.”

Addendum: Tragically, the proposal to breed and sell puppies has been endorsed by Maddie’s Fund and was featured in a zoom webcast by Austin Pets Alive. APA’s director not only shared the idea with a nationwide audience, in that webcast and elsewhere she said that the “pet shortage” was a “real issue” for her “respected colleagues” and we “should give them the benefit of the doubt.” We should not. The health, welfare, and lives of animals are at stake.

Because Nathan Winograd is pants-on-head retarded he buried the lede. I've removed his autistic animal rights complaints and pulled out the stuff that sounds criminal.

HSUS, for example, has:

• Called for the arrest and prosecution of community cat caretakers;
• Given a local pound a “shelter we love” award even though staff not only killed nine out of 10 animals but put a mother cat and her kitten in the gas chamber with a raccoon to sadistically watch them fight before they died (while employees laughed);
  • Protected staff who repeatedly sexually assaulted female employees and interns and those who tried to traffic female employees by demanding they have sex with potential donors in order to “take one for the team.”

(Archive), (Archive)

 

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If the Government holds a gun to a dog's head and tells you, 'If you report my animal abuse and neglect I will shoot this dog', is that actually a First Amendment violation?

It's retaliation by the government for exercise of civil rights, so possibly. I'm just not sure if threatening to shoot a random dog counts as retaliation, though. Also is this the government or just an asshole who works for the government acting on their own? It seems pretty unlikely it would be a standard policy to threaten to shoot dogs in the head.

Because Nathan Winograd is pants-on-head retarded he buried the lede. I've removed his autistic animal rights complaints and pulled out the stuff that sounds criminal.

Also it's lunacy for the same shelters that already kill a majority of their "sheltered" animals to breed even more. That's just fucking lunacy.

 

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It's retaliation by the government for exercise of civil rights, so possibly. I'm just not sure if threatening to shoot a random dog counts as retaliation, though. Also is this the government or just an asshole who works for the government acting on their own? It seems pretty unlikely it would be a standard policy to threaten to shoot dogs in the head.

She's the Director of a municipal (government run) shelter. I mean, ultimately it's moot because she resigned, but Winograd's a lolyer and I was hoping someone sane would weigh in on whether Winograd is being hyperbolic or if that's a legit legal take.

Edit: I agree shelters SHOULD NOT be breeding animals, but that seems like small potatoes when a major nonprofit like HSUS is covering up their employees being repeatedly raped and asked to prostitute themselves to donors.