Lord of the Rings TV Series in Development - How could this POSSIBLY go wrong...

I like how they are announcing spin off series before the first series comes out.

If We Wuz Hobbitz N Sheet drops a turd.....this will be a hilarious failure
 
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Manwithn0n0men said:
I like how they are announcing spin off series before the first series comes out.

If We Wuz Hobbitz N Sheet drops a turd.....this will be a hilarious failure
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To be fair, the Helm Hammerhand film isn't made by Amazon and probably has a better chance of being watchable due to it being set in the canonically stable 3rd Age and is also an animated film so it could at least be visually interesting.

I'm half behind the theory that this is a purposeful tax write-off for Amazon, so either way this may be a win for Amazon and a loss for fans, general audiences, and possibly the brand image that wasn't completely tarnished by the Hobbit films.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of consoomer LotR movie fans will defend this because they fall under this sort of mentality that you need to be overwhelmingly positive about everything tangentially Tolkien-related or your not a 'real fan' or a 'positive part of the discussion'. It's a mentality that a see infesting a lot of the Star Trek fandom in reddit circlejerks and I think I'm seeing it here too in even more dedicated parts of the fandom.
Being critical of something that you love while still enjoying it is the deepest level of fandom to me, so this sort of mindset is utterly deplorable.
 
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PenguinSuitAlice said:
To be fair, the Helm Hammerhand film isn't made by Amazon and probably has a better chance of being watchable due to it being set in the canonically stable 3rd Age and is also an animated film so it could at least be visually interesting.

I'm half behind the theory that this is a purposeful tax write-off for Amazon, so either way this may be a win for Amazon and a loss for fans, general audiences, and possibly the brand image that wasn't completely tarnished by the Hobbit films.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of consoomer LotR movie fans will defend this because they fall under this sort of mentality that you need to be overwhelmingly positive about everything tangentially Tolkien-related or your not a 'real fan' or a 'positive part of the discussion'. It's a mentality that a see infesting a lot of the Star Trek fandom in reddit circlejerks and I think I'm seeing it here too in even more dedicated parts of the fandom.
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I still think lord of the RANGZ is going to taint anything else that comes out. It will make the Hobbit films look less greedy and rapacious in comparison
 
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PenguinSuitAlice said:
To be fair, the Helm Hammerhand film isn't made by Amazon and probably has a better chance of being watchable due to it being set in the canonically stable 3rd Age and is also an animated film so it could at least be visually interesting.

I'm half behind the theory that this is a purposeful tax write-off for Amazon, so either way this may be a win for Amazon and a loss for fans, general audiences, and possibly the brand image that wasn't completely tarnished by the Hobbit films.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of consoomer LotR movie fans will defend this because they fall under this sort of mentality that you need to be overwhelmingly positive about everything tangentially Tolkien-related or your not a 'real fan' or a 'positive part of the discussion'. It's a mentality that a see infesting a lot of the Star Trek fandom in reddit circlejerks and I think I'm seeing it here too in even more dedicated parts of the fandom.
Being critical of something that you love while still enjoying it is the deepest level of fandom to me, so this sort of mindset is utterly deplorable.
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So I like the movies more than the books (LOTR only) but that's simply because Tolkien's actual writing style bores me on the level of Bram Stoker. The actual content is great but reading it is a chore. I even collect the yearly Tolkien calendars because the artwork in them is phenomenal.

That being said, god no I hope it doesn't get all super happy fun time. Not only is it unrealistic, but it's boring and Surprise! Shitty writing. The one thing I hate most about these sjw consoomer types is that they just cannot comprehend and process (unless you are a wrongthinker) that actual Evil is out there and exists, that people do things to each other because they can end enjoy it as opposed to in service of some grand, cartoonishly evil scheme.
 
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So I like the movies more than the books (LOTR only) but that's simply because Tolkien's actual writing style bores me on the level of Bram Stoker. The actual content is great but reading it is a chore. I even collect the yearly Tolkien calendars because the artwork in them is phenomenal.

That being said, god no I hope it doesn't get all super happy fun time. Not only is it unrealistic, but it's boring and Surprise! Shitty writing. The one thing I hate most about these sjw consoomer types is that they just cannot comprehend and process (unless you are a wrongthinker) that actual Evil is out there and exists, that people do things to each other because they can end enjoy it as opposed to in service of some grand, cartoonishly evil scheme.
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Tolkien wasn't a novelist by trade, and that really shows in his writing. Some people get used to it, and others don't.
 
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Chester Rigby said:
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The pandering level is not 3.6 roentgen, is 15000 :cryblood:
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Whose idea was this? Who would find this kind of marketing appealing? This is basically demanding that people be superfans with intense brand loyalty. I know this is what companies want their audiences to be, but this is so blatant and shameless. Tolkien hated many things: vainglory, brashness, ambition, coercion of others, and greed being chief among them and they slapped the Eldar, which were often the embodiment of his moral ideals on this as the main example. This sort of thing doesn't happen artificially like this. The overwhelming majority of general audiences subscribed to Amazon Prime aren't consoomers, I'd hope. They are just people that want to have something to watch in their free time, and if they become fans of something to the point they do this it should happen naturally.
 
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PenguinSuitAlice said:
The overwhelming majority of general audiences subscribed to Amazon Prime aren't consoomers, I'd hope. They are just people that want to have something to watch in their free time, and if they become fans of something to the point they do this it should happen naturally.
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Most people I know who subscribe to Prime don't even care about the shows at all--they just want fast free shipping on stuff they buy online.
 
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Pokemonquistador2 said:
They're actually better than that, since they were animated by Topcraft, the studio that later went on to become Studio Ghibli, although it's pretty surreal to hear the voice actors from Scooby Doo voicing characters from LOTR. I'd say the Rankin Bass Hobbit is a pretty decent adaptation of the book, since it's brisk and sticks very closely to the original work. It's more aimed at kids, though, than adult nerd fans.

If you find yourself complaining about subpar adaptations of Tolkien's work, just be glad that John Boorman's crackfic version of LOTR never got made. Yes, Boorman was the same mind behind Zardoz, and his version of LOTR had sex, drugs, and Aragorn and Boromir macking on each other. Many of Boorman's ideas later made it into Excalibur, his version of the King Arthur story, (where, arguably, they were more fitting.)
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Hobbit 1977 is my childhood. Boone >>> Cumberbatch any day and my default voice for Gandalf is Huston, not McKellen. Was a teen when I saw the Hobbit trilogy and felt very disappointed with them.
 
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Gisvarg said:
Hobbit 1977 is my childhood. Boone >>> Cumberbatch any day and my default voice for Gandalf is Huston, not McKellen. Was a teen when I saw the Hobbit trilogy and felt very disappointed with them.
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I was like that when I saw the Lord of the Rings trilogy (never bothered with Hobbit).

Seriously, how is it that the live-action movies are more cartoonish than *the actual cartoons*?
 
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So I'm... weirdly happy about this series.

No, I'm not saying it will be good. It'll suck just as much as any LOTR media since Jackson dragged it out kicking and screaming into the realm of modern franchises.

What I'm happy about is that everywhere I've seen--even on f*cking reddit--people seem to finally be realizing that, ya know, maybe these adaptations and attempts at a Cinematic Universe for LOTR are possibly a bad thing that only does harm to a thing that should be treated as too holy for television (or whatever the modern equivalent is). And its even retroactively hurting the legacy of the Jackson LOTR--the part everyone seems to like, for reasons I will never understand. Those movies are like if Prequel-era George Lucas directed an episode of Xena Warrior Princess and just happened to use Tolkien names and terms.

Then of course there are gonna be the people who hear that the books are better--and doubly so in this case since Amazon legally CAN'T touch Silmarillion or anything else--and maybe people (well, people who aren't consoomers) will realize that yeah, cinematic Tolkien was just a bad idea on its face, on par with having Jesus Porn.
 
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Then of course there are gonna be the people who hear that the books are better--and doubly so in this case since Amazon legally CAN'T touch Silmarillion or anything else--and maybe people (well, people who aren't consoomers) will realize that yeah, cinematic Tolkien was just a bad idea on its face, on par with having Jesus Porn.
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Not yet they can. But they are likely already exploring ways to reprint LOTR with more inclusive language.
 
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