Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Kari Kamiya]

Also, what is it with romance and make out scenes in children media being more common than ever? Kids like action, adventure and comedy, not make out scenes in lover's lane BS (unless there are monsters or aliens stalking and taking down them smoochers).

It's to appeal to the shippers. That's all this really comes down to is literal fap fantasies for loveless, childless nobodies to self-interest themselves into and put screenshots into their fap folders, hence why they're insisting on kissing scenes, but especially onscreen gay kissing. They're enforcing that all hand-holding/kissing is sexual by its very nature as evident by all the porn fan fiction and fan-art that get made of these gay characters they shove into every series, thereby proving to the world they don't view gay people as actual people but as sexual objects and fantasies.

And to make this ideology spread and take root, you have to get them young.

 

[Dom Cruise]

I watched a GREAT Disney sports movie "The Greatest Game Ever Played" from 2005 starring Shia Labeouf and directed interestingly enough by Bill Paxton (one of only 2 feature films he actually directed sadly)

It's based on the true story of Francis Ouimet, who in 1913 at the age of twenty was the first amateur to win the US Open, beating the English golf champion, Harry Vardon.

And dang, I was honestly caught off guard by how great this movie is, even if you don't care about golf, it's worth watching for it's gorgeous cinematography, it's take on the time period and just how well made it is and what it has to say about life, because the golf is really just a metaphor for a how a man should carry himself through his life.

It's incredibly refreshing to watch a movie that's respectful of the time period of the 1900s and 1910s, even if there are fair criticisms of the era's classism, there's not a word about the era's sexism, racism (there's no black characters at all, remember when a movie could get away with that?) and the overall takeaway is that it was the superior culture, not because of the rich assholes in their gentlemen's clubs, but because of men like Francis Ouimet and Harry Vardon and the gumption they had.

This is in stark contrast with a modern Disney movie set in the 1910s, Jungle Cruise, which I did also watch recently and enjoyed well enough for the fun adventure elements and Dwayne Johnson, but the Woke digs at the era's supposed sexism, the snottyness of Emily Blunt's character and other stupid Woke bullshit pissed me off and just barely avoided ruining the movie altogether.

And damn is it refreshing as hell to watch a movie like The Greatest Game Ever Played with none of that bullshit, it says a lot that a movie like it could still be made in 2005 and people wonder why I miss that decade, but it also says something bad that the movie was a box office flop, as there were sadly already too many of the elements that lead to today even in 2005.

But yeah, highly recommended, including for the movie's beautiful opening credits which are kind of hard to explain but an amazing tribute to the era and was one of the first things about the movie that really caught me off guard with how great it is, it's also nice to remember a time when Labeouf did have some acting talent and wasn't a total trainwreck (he's great in this movie).

 

[starborn427614]

It's to appeal to the shippers. That's all this really comes down to is literal fap fantasies for loveless, childless nobodies to self-interest themselves into and put screenshots into their fap folders, hence why they're insisting on kissing scenes, but especially onscreen gay kissing. They're enforcing that all hand-holding/kissing is sexual by its very nature as evident by all the porn fan fiction and fan-art that get made of these gay characters they shove into every series, thereby proving to the world they don't view gay people as actual people but as sexual objects and fantasies.

And to make this ideology spread and take root, you have to get them young.

Shippers will always be horny as fuck, it's been a thing since media's had fandom in general. Most yaoi fangirls I've seen aren't really concerned about gay rights, it's more about how illicit it is to them.

 

[Trilby]

I watched a GREAT Disney sports movie "The Greatest Game Ever Played" from 2005 starring Shia Labeouf and directed interestingly enough by Bill Paxton (one of only 2 feature films he actually directed sadly)

It's based on the true story of Francis Ouimet, who in 1913 at the age of twenty was the first amateur to win the US Open, beating the English golf champion, Harry Vardon.

And dang, I was honestly caught off guard by how great this movie is, even if you don't care about golf, it's worth watching for it's gorgeous cinematography, it's take on the time period and just how well made it is and what it has to say about life, because the golf is really just a metaphor for a how a man should carry himself through his life.

It's incredibly refreshing to watch a movie that's respectful of the time period of the 1900s and 1910s, even if there are fair criticisms of the era's classism, there's not a word about the era's sexism, racism (there's no black characters at all, remember when a movie could get away with that?) and the overall takeaway is that it was the superior culture, not because of the rich assholes in their gentlemen's clubs, but because of men like Francis Ouimet and Harry Vardon and the gumption they had.

This is in stark contrast with a modern Disney movie set in the 1910s, Jungle Cruise, which I did also watch recently and enjoyed well enough for the fun adventure elements and Dwayne Johnson, but the Woke digs at the era's supposed sexism, the snottyness of Emily Blunt's character and other stupid Woke bullshit pissed me off and just barely avoided ruining the movie altogether.

And damn is it refreshing as hell to watch a movie like The Greatest Game Ever Played with none of that bullshit, it says a lot that a movie like it could still be made in 2005 and people wonder why I miss that decade, but it also says something bad that the movie was a box office flop, as there were sadly already too many of the elements that lead to today even in 2005.

But yeah, highly recommended, including for the movie's beautiful opening credits which are kind of hard to explain but an amazing tribute to the era and was one of the first things about the movie that really caught me off guard with how great it is, it's also nice to remember a time when Labeouf did have some acting talent and wasn't a total trainwreck (he's great in this movie).

Who knew the director of Fish Heads made something interesting that wasn't your typical spectacular SFX flick!

 

[Dom Cruise]

Who knew the director of Fish Heads made something interesting that wasn't your typical spectacular SFX flick!

I know, right? I was looking up Paxton's directorial career, saw he directed "Fish Heads" and was like "WTF?"

It isn't too surprising as I know he also starred in a movie called "The Dark Backward" which I haven't seen but from what I understand was a surrealist comedy, he also starred in the naughty comedy Club Dread (which I love) so he wasn't a diehard conservative, but it's still cool to see him direct such a respectful tribute to the "old days" with The Greatest Game Ever Played.

It's a shame he didn't direct more because he displayed with real chops with that movie, but from what I understand it looks like it was a pretty big financial flop, which says it all about 2005 that such a movie could be made but wouldn't get much interest.

I have not seen his other feature length film, Frailty, though I'm definitely interested to check it out now.

Bill Paxton was just in general such a cool guy, I was very upset when he passed away.

 

[Trilby]

I know, right? I was looking up Paxton's directorial career, saw he directed "Fish Heads" and was like "WTF?"

It isn't too surprising as I know he also starred in a movie called "The Dark Backward" which I haven't seen but from what I understand was a surrealist comedy, he also starred in the naughty comedy Club Dread (which I love) so he wasn't a diehard conservative, but it's still cool to see him direct such a respectful tribute to the "old days" with The Greatest Game Ever Played.

It's a shame he didn't direct more because he displayed with real chops with that movie, but from what I understand it looks like it was a pretty big financial flop, which says it all about 2005 that such a movie could be made but wouldn't get much interest.

I have not seen his other feature length film, Frailty, though I'm definitely interested to check it out now.

Bill Paxton was just in general such a cool guy, I was very upset when he passed away.

We'll never have another.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Here's something else about the LGBTQWERTY movement that rubs me the wrong way lately.

It seems they have recently started to up the ante with implying that the straights are "going the way of the dinosaurs". It's very agist, first of all. Implying that anyone who's not down for gay in kid's shows is automatically old is just wrong. Many younger people, including the minorities they claim to respect so much, find it offensive. An opinion doesn't automatically mean "homophobe". Hell, maybe kids shows shouldn't bother showing kissing at all-- kids don't really want to see that, anyway.

Statements like this also imply that "the straights are going extinct"... or that what they really want to say is "the straights SHOULD go extinct".

I've seen many many gay dudes online imply that they are "more advanced" than the rest of us, or that gay sex is "more spiritual and enlightened" than straight sex. Keep in mind many of the "modern thinkers" of the left, transhumanists, believe normal sexual reproduction is "antiquated technology". Many of these men who promote this ideology are GAY. Look up the topic on YouTube, my point proves itself pretty quickly. These are the types who want artificial wombs and the like-- a world with nothing but gay men, femme boys and robots. They might stick up for a lesbian kiss in a movie, but they don't really give a fuck about lesbians in real life.

It' s like that accusation of "homophobia" is actually projection for these elite-tier gay types. They think the "straights" are frightful and revolting, they want the "straights" to go extinct, they've so phobic of straight people that they want straights to "go the way of the dinosaurs".

TL;DR:
"Homophobic? Nah, you're just heterophobic." - Eminem, 2000

 

[Trilby]

TL;DR:
"Homophobic? Nah, you're just heterophobic." - Eminem, 2000

Surprised Bob Dobbs hasn't become the anti-hetero symbol to these people.

 

[make_it_so]

Everyone's favorite Midwestern alcoholics did a re:View of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and spent part of it comparing it to the new Chp N' Dale movie - mainly, in how the new Chip N'Dale movie completely fails to measure up.

Discussion of of Chip N'Dale begins around the 45 minute mark.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Some more thoughts on The Greatest Game Ever Played just because I want to share.

The movie is very critical of the class system of the era it's depicting, it makes it clear that it was essentially a caste system and makes a big contrast between snooty rich assholes and the guys with working class backgrounds we're supposed to root for.

Being critical of the 1800s, 1900s and 1910s might seem sort of proto-Woke, yet the movie has a very good point about caste systems and why they're bad and here's the thing, Woke itself is a caste system, now same as then rich, elite people like to think they're morally better than the "rabble", they just have different justifications, back then it was whatever it was, today it's "oh, well we're so much better than those Trump voting flyover country rednecks!", same shit, different century, The Greatest Game Ever Played makes the point that the measure of a man shouldn't be based on if he's from a moneyed background or whatever caste system deems you one of the "good ones" but on a man's actual merit and ability to keep his cool when faced with challenges and succeed at those challenges.

So in that way it's the polar opposite of Woke which judges people purely on surface shit and not actual merit.

It's also simply funny how one of the main female characters in the movie makes mention that she's going to college and no one reacts negatively, which is probably more accurate to the time, if the movie was made today someone would make some comment about "oh you silly little girl, higher education is not for women!" ala scenes in Jungle Cruise, when in reality that shit's probably revisionist history and the 1910s were not as anti-women as they want you to think they were.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

Also, what is it with romance and make out scenes in children media being more common than ever? Kids like action, adventure and comedy, not make out scenes in lover's lane BS (unless there are monsters or aliens stalking and taking down them smoochers).

Easy answer: Women

Long Answer:

Shippers have always been a thing, as many have stated, but why it is recently becoming an issue is all a carry over of the 2000s and the increase of certain types of women into the industry. The 2000s was a boom of sorts for shipping culture just given the landscape and content made in the period. The obvious contributor was the internet, and particularly Tumblr gaining relevance for nerdy women to thirst post on, but it goes beyond that. Harry Potter helped usher in a generation of women into fandoms, many of which were primarily male. Women were obsessed with Harry Potter and still are, getting fully engrossed into the characters, and particularly the romance side of it. After HP, a spur of nerd culture pertaining to females would emerge, giving us Twilight and Supernatural among others. These fandoms would slowly start bleeding into male fandoms as the two slowly got more intertwined.

Teen Titans, and to some degree Batman, were the launching off point for many to join more male fandoms. Teen Titans was designed like a female oriented teen drama amongst the superhero stuff. This would cause it to be a shippers nest as women scrambled to figure out who Beast Boy or Robin would bang. This stuff would carry over to other shows later down the line including Avatar, Total Drama Island, Young Justice, and especially Adventure Time. The MCU would also be a big target for female shit, and then Star Wars after episode 7.

The reason the writing is so prevalent now is because new writers are those women caught in the cultural zeitgeist of the female nerd from the 2000s and early 2010s. That culture prompted shipping shit, so now they are writing their fuck fantasies that they didn’t get to see 10 years ago. Most of their basis comes from children’s shit, so of course they write for children before you ask.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Sometimes you become the very thing you hate. And I think anti wokies fall into that trap alot recently. Wokness is offer but becoming the opposite can lead to negative effects too

Yeah, sometimes shit just sucks. You don't have to blame it on black people or Jews or the transwoman hiding under your bed.

 

[Crybaby Xianghua]

Easy answer: Women

Long Answer:

Shippers have always been a thing, as many have stated, but why it is recently becoming an issue is all a carry over of the 2000s and the increase of certain types of women into the industry. The 2000s was a boom of sorts for shipping culture just given the landscape and content made in the period. The obvious contributor was the internet, and particularly Tumblr gaining relevance for nerdy women to thirst post on, but it goes beyond that. Harry Potter helped usher in a generation of women into fandoms, many of which were primarily male. Women were obsessed with Harry Potter and still are, getting fully engrossed into the characters, and particularly the romance side of it. After HP, a spur of nerd culture pertaining to females would emerge, giving us Twilight and Supernatural among others. These fandoms would slowly start bleeding into male fandoms as the two slowly got more intertwined.

Teen Titans, and to some degree Batman, were the launching off point for many to join more male fandoms. Teen Titans was designed like a female oriented teen drama amongst the superhero stuff. This would cause it to be a shippers nest as women scrambled to figure out who Beast Boy or Robin would bang. This stuff would carry over to other shows later down the line including Avatar, Total Drama Island, Young Justice, and especially Adventure Time. The MCU would also be a big target for female shit, and then Star Wars after episode 7.

The reason the writing is so prevalent now is because new writers are those women caught in the cultural zeitgeist of the female nerd from the 2000s and early 2010s. That culture prompted shipping shit, so now they are writing their fuck fantasies that they didn’t get to see 10 years ago. Most of their basis comes from children’s shit, so of course they write for children before you ask.

So, it is basically morbidly obese woman child NEETs...Yep, go figure...

Now in this day and age, these fanwhales deny they are fat, perverted sex pests, and claim that sexual fetishism is a civil right privilege. Just come outta the fetish closet already ladies. Don't be a bunch of liars now... Heh heh!

 

[Flaming Carrot]

I have not seen his other feature length film, Frailty, though I'm definitely interested to check it out now.

If you like horror movies, Frailty is well worth seeking out. I'm not even sure how well it did at the box office, but Irecall it got pretty good reviews at the time.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Has Disney made any official statements on the recent Supreme court ruling?

 

[XYZpdq]

Has Disney made any official statements on the recent Supreme court ruling?

iirc they say they'll pay to ship employees to abortion states as needed

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

iirc they say they'll pay to ship employees to abortion states as needed

Smart. That way, they'll know who to fire during the next round of layoffs.

 

[skykiii]

These days I tend to avoid anything involving Disney. There was a time when I liked them, but nowadays....

My biggest problem is their movies have, in a lot of ways, not really changed since the 1990s. Sure, they use CGI instead of traditional animation, but their stories are basically the same now as ever, except for they like subverting ancient fairy tale tropes now (something which any edgy teen has been doing on the internet since the 1990s).

But like... what makes Anna from Frozen any different from, say, Ariel or Belle?

Also, does anyone but me absolutely hate how all their CGI women have literal baby faces? Seriously it bothers me. People talk about anime being pedophilic--and it is--but Disney's CGI girls all look like literal baby heads on teenage bodies, except that they have hair. (Frozen kinda accentuates this, since you get to see Anna and Elsa when they were younger... and their heads don't even change).

 

[PumpkinSpiceBitchMeringue]

I didn't know where else to put this but here you go.

 

[Trilby]

Smart. That way, they'll know who to fire during the next round of layoffs.

Something had to give.

These days I tend to avoid anything involving Disney. There was a time when I liked them, but nowadays....

My biggest problem is their movies have, in a lot of ways, not really changed since the 1990s. Sure, they use CGI instead of traditional animation, but their stories are basically the same now as ever, except for they like subverting ancient fairy tale tropes now (something which any edgy teen has been doing on the internet since the 1990s).

But like... what makes Anna from Frozen any different from, say, Ariel or Belle?

Also, does anyone but me absolutely hate how all their CGI women have literal baby faces? Seriously it bothers me. People talk about anime being pedophilic--and it is--but Disney's CGI girls all look like literal baby heads on teenage bodies, except that they have hair. (Frozen kinda accentuates this, since you get to see Anna and Elsa when they were younger... and their heads don't even change).

To me, Disney died with the early 80's and Eisner's rise to power.