The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

They had 50 years to do so. Obama, in all his eight years of presidency, didn’t bother. Neither did Clinton.

You seem pretty happy about becoming a second class citizen. Why is that?

Obama had the House and Senate his first two years of presidency.

Look up the filibuster.

 

[snailslime]

Which CNN poll did you get that shit from?

Do you genuinely believe that most Americans want to overturn Roe v Wade?

If so, you are extremely delusional.

 

[Lurker]

She's retarded lol
Most are indifferent about abortion until you start pressing that shit on them about how many months in do the democrats consider abortionable.

this is a more civil thunderdome, Captain, we don't call people retarded here.

i mean personally i'm of the opinion you should be able to abort a fetus until it is viable outside the womb, which is somewhere between 23-24 weeks (5-ish months) or something like that? it's not like people who are pro-choice WANT to abort close-to-term babies, unless there's a specific reason why. but even so, i think that abortion should always be an option, as shitty as it may seem. it's not my place to tell a woman what she should be doing with her potential offspring. people tend to forget that there's nuance to the whole thing. i personally think it's pretty skeevy to be aborting post the 5-ish month gestation period for no reason, but it's not my body, not my call, and i'd rather people have the option regardless.

the good news is that generally most abortions occur within the first trimester, which isn't anywhere near when a fetus could be considered viable outside the womb.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Do you genuinely believe that most Americans want to overturn Roe v Wade?

If so, you are extremely delusional.

He's a religious zealot from Europe who whiteknights nazis

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Do you genuinely believe that most Americans want to overturn Roe v Wade?

If so, you are extremely delusional.

Retard, I already told you that people are indifferent about it unless you press them into a position. Difference is, it's easier to press them into believing that abortion is some kind of right of liberation than making them face the fact that it's legal murder.

 

[Dream_Cooter]

this is a more civil thunderdome, Captain, we don't call people retarded here.

i mean personally i'm of the opinion you should be able to abort a fetus until it is viable outside the womb, which is somewhere between 23-24 weeks (5-ish months) or something like that? it's not like people who are pro-choice WANT to abort close-to-term babies, unless there's a specific reason why. but even so, i think that abortion should always be an option, as shitty as it may seem. it's not my place to tell a woman what she should be doing with her potential offspring. people tend to forget that there's nuance to the whole thing. i personally think it's pretty skeevy to be aborting post the 5-ish month gestation period for no reason, but it's not my body, not my call, and i'd rather people have the option regardless.

the good news is that generally most abortions occur within the first trimester, which isn't anywhere near when a fetus could be considered viable outside the womb.

24 Weeks, that's fucking disgusting. Women are degenerate animals sometimes.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

Then why do only 30% of Americans support overturning it?

Source? Citation?

 

[snailslime]

Source? Citation?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/06/24/how-americans-really-feel-about-abortion-the-sometimes-surprising-poll-results-as-supreme-court-reportedly-set-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/amp/

Oops, 20 percent. Lol

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

this is a more civil thunderdome, Captain, we don't call people retarded here.

I do and I don't give a fuck. Some halfwit wants me to believe her gay poll just because? Fuck that.

i mean personally i'm of the opinion you should be able to abort a fetus until it is viable outside the womb, which is somewhere between 23-24 weeks

Fine. I don't. A life's a life at either week, month or year.

pro-choice WANT to abort close-to-term babies

Yes they do. Why do you think they do violence for it?

unless there's a specific reason why.

Yeah. The reason is they're retarded.

it's not my place to tell a woman what she should be doing with her potential offspring.

If she can kill her offspring before birth, why draw a line after birth?

i personally think it's pretty skeevy to be aborting post the 5-ish month gestation period for no reason,

"Well, I think murdering a baby sometimes is, like, not okay, right?"
That's what most peoples' position is. Then you press the subject and they either cave in or look like psychopaths.
You trust in the rationale of ignorance too much.

but it's not my body, not my call, and i'd rather people have the option regardless.

Do you think a baby would rather die just to please their crazy bitch mom and her habbits?

the good news is that generally most abortions occur within the first trimester, which isn't anywhere near when a fetus could be considered viable outside the womb.

By your definition. By law and literal biology it's a human life at conception.

 

[Lurker]

This is very true, we had an abortion vote in my country and it really opened my eyes to how it splits every demographic. I also assumed that the most aggressive anti abortion activists were men... This was not true, when anti abortion women get going they are so powerful.

I voted for dead babies, but now I wish I hadn't.

bitches be cray cray. seriously, though, in a way i guess it would make sense that women would be against abortion moreso than men. i mean they're the ones forming a bond with the baby, if they're having one or likely planning on having one. men are probably afraid that they'll be sicced with child support, so abortion would be beneficial to them in that case.

it often surprises and saddens me that there are women who are anti-abortion, on the basis that it's not like anyone is forcing them to have an abortion. if another woman has an abortion, how does that affect you (not YOU, you)? wouldn't you want that option to be there, even if you're not ever going to use it? i get that it's an ideological thing and that people are gonna be set in their ways, but it saddens me regardless.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/06/24/how-americans-really-feel-about-abortion-the-sometimes-surprising-poll-results-as-supreme-court-reportedly-set-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/amp/

Oops, 20 percent. Lol

This Gallup poll literally just asked the most broadest question possible, with no possible deviation on their actual thoughts.

 

[TheBigZee]

I'd like to proffer the caveat on that figure - 70% of Americans want there to be some access to abortion. Very few people give a shit about the 14th amendment magically imparting some veil of privacy on some issues but not others.

 

[Lurker]

I do and I don't give a fuck. Some halfwit wants me to believe her gay poll just because? Fuck that.

Fine. I don't. A life's a life at either week, month or year.

Yes they do. Why do you think they do violence for it?

Yeah. The reason is they're retarded.

If she can kill her offspring before birth, why draw a line after birth?

"Well, I think murdering a baby sometimes is, like, not okay, right?"
That's what most peoples' position is. Then you press the subject and they either cave in or look like psychopaths.
You trust in the rationale of ignorance too much.

Do you think a baby would rather die just to please their crazy bitch mom and her habbits?

By your definition. By law and literal biology it's a human life at conception.

i see no reason to attempt further debate with you because it's pretty obvious that you are absolutely set in your beliefs, and that no matter what I or anyone else says, it really won't matter in the grand scheme of things.

sometimes being civil will make people more likely to listen and want to engage with you further. just food for thought.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

I'd like to proffer the caveat on that figure - 70% of Americans want there to be some access to abortion. Very few people give a shit about the 14th amendment magically imparting some veil of privacy on some issues but not others.

Which is a big difference than having outright abortions willy-nilly on a federal level

 

[snailslime]

This Gallup poll literally just asked the most broadest question possible, with no possible deviation on their actual thoughts.

It's not that hard to ask people whether or not they want Roe overturned.

 

[AmberHeardSupporter]

24 Weeks, that's fucking disgusting. Women are degenerate animals sometimes.

Men are degenerate animals all the time

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

It's not that hard to ask people whether or not they want Roe overturned.

But it didn't just do that, it even states that in article and the Gallup poll. Most people are also unaware of the context or the background of Roe V. Wade

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

It's not that hard to ask people whether or not they want Roe overturned.

I never got a phonecall asking that, mostly just Indians these days.
I forgot who said it, but you have to look at polls through the lens of someone who would take the time out of their day to answer some random jackass's questions.

 

[TheBigZee]

if another woman has an abortion, how does that affect you (not YOU, you)? wouldn't you want that option to be there, even if you're not ever going to use it? i get that it's an ideological thing and that people are gonna be set in their ways, but it saddens me regardless.

I think it changes expectations for mothers and motherhood. As I've gotten older I've realized the democrats willingness to gut wellfare stemmed in part from motherhood being a choice rather than something most women would experience by default over their lives.

 

[Lurker]

I think it changes expectations for mothers and motherhood. As I've gotten older I've realized the democrats willingness to gut wellfare stemmed in part from motherhood being a choice rather than something most women would experience by default over their lives.

elaborate?

not every woman wants to be a mother, though. why shouldn't women have the choice whether they want to be mothers or not? are women not entitled to the same rights that are afforded to men? unless i'm misunderstanding or putting words in your mouth, which is not my intention.