US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Trust Me I Know]

Nancy hates children as much as Joe loves them.

 

[northstar747]

Don't forget the casinos have put countless amounts of cash into making sure flash floods never hit the Strip.

like that tunnel where that porn actress lives?

 

[Overly Serious]

A Colorado crisis pregnancy center was mostly peacefully grafitti'd and burned.

I just want to make sure as a non-burger. A "pregnancy center" is what would historically be called a maternity hospital, right? It's where women go to safely give birth and there are maybe associated programs run from there such as antenatal clinics.

You're saying some fuckers arsoned a fucking place for pregnant women?

 

[quaawaa]

I just want to make sure as a non-burger. A "pregnancy center" is what would historically be called a maternity hospital, right? It's where women go to safely give birth and there are maybe associated programs run from there such as antenatal clinics.

You're saying some fuckers arsoned a fucking place for pregnant women?

No, a “crisis pregnancy center” is a place that tries to convince women who are thinking about aborting to keep their babies and offers them pregnancy/child care/adoption advice.

 

[Ow The Edge]

Happy quads day!!!

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Hopefully this doesn't end up on 1112. Make a wish!

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Too unbelievable. There's no way Pope Francis would tell him to enforce actual Catholic moral doctrine.

 

[Overly Serious]

No, a “crisis pregnancy center” is a place that tries to convince women who are thinking about aborting to keep their babies and offers them pregnancy/child care/adoption advice.

Ah, thanks.

Honestly, it sounds like a valuable service. What's the alternative? Planned Parenthood where their financially motivated to get you to abort?

Also a bunch of these loons are sharing around "secret lists" of female doctors who will perform "emergency tubal ligations" because supposedly male doctors will now refuse to do it or something?

They should refuse to do it, in most cases. You can have an IUD that is very effective against pregnancy and it's reversible. Unless you've had multiple kids and you're oldish, it's medically irresponsible to take away someone's fertility even if they ask it because there are better options.

 

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Ah, thanks.

Honestly, it sounds like a valuable service. What's the alternative? Planned Parenthood where their financially motivated to get you to abort?

It's the righty alternative to Abortion Clinics. The idea being that if you're desperate and don't know what to do about an unplanned pregnancy, or even just can't handle a planned one, you go there and they get you in touch with local charities, therapist volunteers, adoption agencies, etc.

The left fucking HATES HATES HATES HATES them because an alterative to abortion lessens the "need" for abortion, which makes people less likely to support murdering inconvenient children.

 

[Gehenna]

How likely is it that gay marriage will become the new sacred cow of the Left and we gotta deal with this whole fiasco all over again in a couple years?

Frankly I would rather that the state stay out of the institution of marriage entirely so the possibility of the ruling back in 2015 being reversed isn't quite something I'd lose sleep over, although it will probably means that states will be legalizing it one by one again the way they were already leading up to the aforementioned ruling.

Zero. Conservatives are not as enraged by gay marriage. Abortion was contentious because one side wanted full. Unfettered access and the other side saw it as murder. These two extremes drove increased hatred and the middle was forgotten.


Gay marriage has none of that baggage. It is seen at worst as morally repugnant, not as morally unconscionable.

 

[Standardized Profile]

No, a “crisis pregnancy center” is a place that tries to convince women who are thinking about aborting to keep their babies and offers them pregnancy/child care/adoption advice.

Also free or low cost pregnancy testing, ultrasounds, parenting classes for both parents, baby clothes, maternity clothes, diapers, formula, help signing up for benefits, etc. Not every center has all these resources because they don't have the kind of funding Planned Parenthood gets, but they try. Burning them down is really despicable because they provide a lot of material support to poor women and their families.

 

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Zero. Conservatives are not as enraged by gay marriage. Abortion was contentious because one side wanted full. Unfettered access and the other side saw it as murder. These two extremes drove increased hatred and the middle was forgotten.


Gay marriage has none of that baggage. It is seen at worst as morally repugnant, not as morally unconscionable.

I kind of think that him mentioning those 3 rulings might have been a bit of a misstep. Or he was intentionally trolling the left, getting some digs in while he can?

At the very least I don't think he seriously thinks we'll be re-addressing gay marriage, sodomy, or whatever the third one was (interracial marriage?) -- maybe he was just making it publicly known that the bullshit "we can't pass a law so we'll have SCOTUS pass a not-law" thing that has been going on is over if they have anything to say about it.

 

[Gehenna]

I kind of think that him mentioning those 3 rulings might have been a bit of a misstep. Or he was intentionally trolling the left, getting some digs in while he can?

At the very least I don't think he seriously thinks we'll be re-addressing gay marriage, sodomy, or whatever the third one was (interracial marriage?) -- maybe he was just making it publicly known that the bullshit "we can't pass a law so we'll have SCOTUS pass a not-law" thing that has been going on is over if they have anything to say about it.

Thomas believes that basically anything not explicitly in the constitution should be left to the states. Including those concepts. He is the only one on the court with this very considerably significant opinion.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Thomas believes that basically anything not explicitly in the constitution should be left to the states. Including those concepts. He is the only one on the court with this very considerably significant opinion.

I'm sure that would be open to challenge under the 9th. In fact, I'm constantly surprised that the 9th is so rarely referenced for issues like this. The right of a married couple to participate in economic activities relevant to their marriage and family, for instance, doesn't seem like something that a state should be able to curtail merely because "the right to birth control" it isn't mentioned in the constitution.

 

[Sithis]

I kind of think that him mentioning those 3 rulings might have been a bit of a misstep. Or he was intentionally trolling the left, getting some digs in while he can?

At the very least I don't think he seriously thinks we'll be re-addressing gay marriage, sodomy, or whatever the third one was (interracial marriage?) -- maybe he was just making it publicly known that the bullshit "we can't pass a law so we'll have SCOTUS pass a not-law" thing that has been going on is over if they have anything to say about it.

That's just it. He basically told them in the kindest way possible, "Roe was taken down because it was built on shitty legal argument and wasn't codified into law within those 50 years. These other things are also based on similarly shitty legal arguments."

If Dems actually gave a rats ass about gay marriage they'd go ahead and try to codify it while it would be much easier to do so both due to their majorities and the fact it'd be radioactive to oppose so soon after Roe. But like everything else they'll try to turn it into a campaign issue, drive a wedge in society that didn't need driven and probably fuck it up in the end lol

 

[AnotherPleb]

That's just it. He basically told them in the kindest way possible, "Roe was taken down because it was built on shitty legal argument and wasn't codified into law within those 50 years. These other things are also based on similarly shitty legal arguments."

If Dems actually gave a rats ass about gay marriage they'd go ahead and try to codify it while it would be much easier to do so both due to their majorities and the fact it'd be radioactive to oppose so soon after Roe. But like everything else they'll try to turn it into a campaign issue, drive a wedge in society that didn't need driven and probably fuck it up in the end lol

There's also the very damning fact that the legislative branch refuses to legislate anything that doesn't directly or indirectly make them richer.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Burning them down is really despicable because they provide a lot of material support to poor women and their families.

Lefties: "OMG, THINK OF HOW MANY POOR PEOPLE THIS RULING WILL AFFECT!11!!!!!!"
Poors: "Actually, our lives haven't really been affected by this ruling at all."
Lefties: "We can fix that......"

 

[soy_king]

I'm sure that would be open to challenge under the 9th. In fact, I'm constantly surprised that the 9th is so rarely referenced for issues like this. The right of a married couple to participate in economic activities relevant to their marriage and family, for instance, doesn't seem like something that a state should be able to curtail merely because "the right to birth control" it isn't mentioned in the constitution.

the 9th has never been raised ever. it's technically the most significant amendment but has no case law behind it

 

[Randall Flagg]

That's just it. He basically told them in the kindest way possible, "Roe was taken down because it was built on shitty legal argument and wasn't codified into law within those 50 years. These other things are also based on similarly shitty legal arguments.

He qualifies that by saying something to effect that they may be legally justifiable under the privileges and immunities clause as to those other cases. He could be convinced the privileges and immunities clause applies, but substantive due process is bullshit.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Thomas believes that basically anything not explicitly in the constitution should be left to the states. Including those concepts. He is the only one on the court with this very considerably significant opinion.

More broadly, Justice Thomas doesn't really believe in Substantive Due Process. SDP holds up all these decisions despite being what naysayers would call "tenuous" and supporters would call "crafty." He's much more interested in emphasizing the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the 14th Amendment, which was almost immediately kneecapped in the Slaughter House Cases. If you want Thomas on your side for gay marriage as constitutionally protected, convince him that gay marriage is one of the "privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States" such that "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge" it.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Thomas believes that basically anything not explicitly in the constitution should be left to the states. Including those concepts. He is the only one on the court with this very considerably significant opinion.

He's the only originalist on the court? How is that not the default position of every conservative justice?

 

[soy_king]

He's the only originalist on the court? How is that not the default position of every conservative justice?

he's the most rigid in his originalism, except for the patent cases, where hes balls to the wall like the rest. the rest are a bit more flexible in their originalism/textualism