US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[mandatorylurk]

Trump was against the rate raise because it was deliberately trying to fuck with his economy as it took off to make it look less impressive. It should have started in Obummer's second term but they didn't do shit. And it was deliberately fucking with the stock market at the time because they were trying to set up a recession, I remember them shitting when the stock market lost 800 points around Christmas but then shot up 1,000 in a day after Trump visited a military base overseas around the same time when business realizes they can work with the rates as is and still have good growth.

 

[make_it_so]

Wyoming and Montana what the fuck you doing you baby killers. You too North Carolina.

Montana suffers from the California locusts.

North Carolina has a Dem governor and attorney general, a result of of previous Republican governors trying to make the Durham area a "tech corridor" which meant importing Californians and Yankees.

 

[JosephStalin]

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Montana suffers from the California locusts.

North Carolina has a Dem governor and attorney general, a result of of previous Republican governors trying to make the Durham area a "tech corridor" which meant importing Californians and Yankees.

North Carolina has a long history of joining a bandwagon at the last minute (see Civil War secession and POTUS election results). They may become a ban state eventually. Montana I'm sure will join the ban states before them. They have a GOP governor, and this is their current state legislature:

 

[LUNEKO]

I am a little skeptical of Trump when it comes to dealing with the economy due to his performance with it the last time he was president. He would always claim the economy is the "best in American history" while at the same time (completely ignoring raising the budget deficit because lets face it every president does that at this point) he would lower interest rates. Obviously rates were lowered and tons of printed money flowed into the economy during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 but prior to that in 2018 when federal interest rates were raised to try and stop inflation, Trump protested this, and for whatever reason the rate went down in 2019. With that in mind I would say there is a good chance another economy under the direction of Donald Trump would be nice but also on borrowed time. Another bubble could possibly created that could be good in the short term but would ultimately either pop when Donald Trump leaves office again or down the line when the Federal Reserve is forced to do something about it and raises interest rates hard which can easily create an economic depression.

So in your opinion whoever's next up on the throne has to take the fall if America is ever to recover or keep inflating the balloon and making the eventual explosion worse?

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

So in your opinion whoever's next up on the throne has to take the fall if America is ever to recover or keep inflating the balloon and making the eventual explosion worse?

Either that, or Biden will be the guy at the wheel when a hard limit on the fuckery is found, and it irreversably implodes on him. There is some point where an excess of liquid cash becomes unsustainable, but nobody knows where that line is, and it could be right around the corner for all we know. Someones got to start pulling that liquidity out of the market, before the market reevaluates the relation between actual capital and this liquid cash value.

 

[JohnDoe]

This but unironically. I forget which branch of batshit insane Marxists believe it, but there's a not-small segment of the wokies that believes that in order to get the Communist Utopia they were promised they HAVE to torture the poors into rising up to offset Capitalism making them fat and happy.

You're right. It's all part of the radical Communist plan to destabilize the nation and make it ripe for a revolt. A well functioning government and peaceful, satisfied nation is not fertile soil for a complete and violent restructuring.

You see, the thought leaders of the Communist movement realized back in the 50s and 60's that Western Culture and Capitalism made a civilization that was too successful. Everybody was too comfortable with their lifestyles and cultures to accept the revolution and transition to a communist state. The answer to this dilemma was not to reconsider if communism would really be that great in comparison, but instead to infiltrate and destroy all the liberal democracies and burn every institution to the ground. Once everything is garbage, then communism would look reasonable in comparison. Brilliant!

This is why they push post-modern critical theory. It was designed from the ground up to sow chaos and anger by dismantling and destroying the pillars of not just society and systems, but the entire nature of dialog and discussion. It is based on a rejection of empirical fact and purposeful distortion of language for the goal of making debate or agreement impossible. With it, they shift the motivation from economic/class conflicts and to emotional, social, and psychological turmoil through Critical Theory.

That is why they want to destroy all the systems that hold together and stabilize civilization. They want to undermine the voting systems and government, they want to subvert the justice system, they need to flood healthy cities and communities with criminals and racial strangers, they are uprooting and destroying shared culture, history and mythos. They have to turn everything into a literal trash fire as step one of their grand plan to squirm out from the wreckage of the West and smugly pitch Communism to whomever survives, because that is the only way their system will seem like a viable alternative.

Of course, it couldn't possibly work anyway because they've been running things into the ground for so long on purpose that they lost all genuine competency. You see, back then the Commie leadership was still a bunch of academics, same as today, but it had a backbone of actual factual laborers and workers. Blue-collar industrial types were in their ranks, so if the Commies actually seized a town they could run it in theory, keep the boilers going, trains and newspapers working, etc. For a while, anyhow, please see the USSR for examples of how long you can manage to keep a place limping under the Red Banner. (There isn't a Marxist alive today that could hold a candle to Stalin or the old Soviets, though.)

Not so anymore - the core is still a bunch of entitled academic rich kids, same as Marx, but now there isn't membership from blue collar or laboring factions.

So if they do manage to somehow tear everything down and miraculously create the 'diverse Marxist utopia' on the carcass of a republic, it'll have a lifetime measured in months at best. They simply aren't capable of doing anything constructive, their entire philosophy is counter to reality and production. The entirety of the Commie Party is wall to wall untermensch, just useless scholars and students and 'activists' that are only good at Party dialectic, subversion, and riots. They can seize a railway, but they couldn't run it these days.

They have to turn everything into a literal trash fire as step one of their grand plan to squirm out from the wreckage of the West and smugly pitch Communism to whomever survives, because that is the only way their system will seem like a viable alternative.

 

[make_it_so]

Does this sound like the NRA wants donations for doing nothing to anyone else?

How's that any different from what they usually do?

 

[LUNEKO]

Either that, or Biden will be the guy at the wheel when a hard limit on the fuckery is found, and it irreversably implodes on him. There is some point where an excess of liquid cash becomes unsustainable, but nobody knows where that line is, and it could be right around the corner for all we know. Someones got to start pulling that liquidity out of the market, before the market reevaluates the relation between actual capital and this liquid cash value.

I don't believe it would be Biden, if the democrats goal is to be the eternal power with a sitting duck for opposition blowing up the economy in the next 4 years would fuck their public perception entirely
(which they still need because the plan to fortify elections failed and now everyone is skeptical as fuck of them)
They might be doing radical wild shit like shutting down oil production but i think they are only hitting where they know the US can take it, if anything it seems they are setting up for an obvious defeat in 2024 but they plan to leave enough remote detonating mines that'll blow everything to pieces once they loose power again and blame it on the opposition

 

[Too Many Catgirls]

Fire every government and military official that has been in their job for 20 years or more and either randomly promote people to fill their positions or hire outsiders.

Solved most of the problems for you.

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

You're right. It's all part of the radical Communist plan to destabilize the nation and make it ripe for a revolt. A well functioning government and peaceful, satisfied nation is not fertile soil for a complete and violent restructuring.

You see, the thought leaders of the Communist movement realized back in the 50s and 60's that Western Culture and Capitalism made a civilization that was too successful. Everybody was too comfortable with their lifestyles and cultures to accept the revolution and transition to a communist state. The answer to this dilemma was not to reconsider if communism would really be that great in comparison, but instead to infiltrate and destroy all the liberal democracies and burn every institution to the ground. Once everything is garbage, then communism would look reasonable in comparison. Brilliant!

This is why they push post-modern critical theory. It was designed from the ground up to sow chaos and anger by dismantling and destroying the pillars of not just society and systems, but the entire nature of dialog and discussion. It is based on a rejection of empirical fact and purposeful distortion of language for the goal of making debate or agreement impossible. With it, they shift the motivation from economic/class conflicts and to emotional, social, and psychological turmoil through Critical Theory.

That is why they want to destroy all the systems that hold together and stabilize civilization. They want to undermine the voting systems and government, they want to subvert the justice system, they need to flood healthy cities and communities with criminals and racial strangers, they are uprooting and destroying shared culture, history and mythos. They have to turn everything into a literal trash fire as step one of their grand plan to squirm out from the wreckage of the West and smugly pitch Communism to whomever survives, because that is the only way their system will seem like a viable alternative.

Of course, it couldn't possibly work anyway because they've been running things into the ground for so long on purpose that they lost all genuine competency. You see, back then the Commie leadership was still a bunch of academics, same as today, but it had a backbone of actual factual laborers and workers. Blue-collar industrial types were in their ranks, so if the Commies actually seized a town they could run it in theory, keep the boilers going, trains and newspapers working, etc. For a while, anyhow, please see the USSR for examples of how long you can manage to keep a place limping under the Red Banner. (There isn't a Marxist alive today that could hold a candle to Stalin or the old Soviets.)

Not so anymore - the core is still a bunch of entitled academic rich kids, same as Marx, but now there isn't membership from blue collar or laboring factions.
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So if they do manage to somehow tear everything down and miraculously create the 'diverse Marxist utopia' on the carcass of a republic, it'll have a lifetime measured in months at best. They simply aren't capable of doing anything constructive, their entire philosophy is counter to reality and production. The entirety of the Commie Party is wall to wall untermensch, just useless scholars and students and 'activists' that are only good at Party dialectic, subversion, and riots. They can seize a railway, but they couldn't run it these days.

They have to turn everything into a literal trash fire as step one of their grand plan to squirm out from the wreckage of the West and smugly pitch Communism to whomever survives, because that is the only way their system will seem like a viable alternative

In the past, it was the "in" thing to talk about going back in time and killing Adolf Hitler before he rose to prominence.

I wonder if that will be replaced by Karl Marx?

 

[make_it_so]

He should pick Kane as his running mate.

Peace Through Power.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

In the past, it was the "in" thing to talk about going back in time and killing Adolf Hitler before he rose to prominence.

I wonder if that will be replaced by Karl Marx?

Will given that one of the reason Hitler managed to rise to power was because he and his fighting squads would beat up the communists squads in the streets you would kill two bird with one stone by going after Marx.

 

[Breadbassket]

North Carolina has a long history of joining a bandwagon at the last minute (see Civil War secession and POTUS election results). They may become a ban state eventually. Montana I'm sure will join the ban states before them. They have a GOP governor, and this is their current state legislature:

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North Carolina could potentially have an abortion ban in the future, this is a state where the GOP dominates the House and Senate, voted for Trump in 2020 while somehow a Democrat governor won in the same year. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.

So in your opinion whoever's next up on the throne has to take the fall if America is ever to recover or keep inflating the balloon and making the eventual explosion worse?

Yes, ideally a president would eventually stop letting the endless inflation go wild and the economy would have to take a temporary hit. The best medicine is often bitter and constant currency devaluation is not sustainable in the long term. Right now the issue of inflation and interest rates is being treated like a grenade with its pin pulled and no party wants to be the last one holding it so the hole we're in just gets deeper. The deeper that metaphorical hole ultimately gets, the longer it may take for us to get out of it.

 

[LUNEKO]

In the past, it was the "in" thing to talk about going back in time and killing Adolf Hitler before he rose to prominence.

I wonder if that will be replaced by Karl Marx?

That kind of thinking always seemed retarded to me, even if you where going to kill them someone else would had risen because the conditions that created Karl/Hitler/Stalin/Mao/etc. are still there, the same societies with the same troubles and the same power vacuums if it wasn't them then someone else would had seen the shifts in power forming.

 

[JohnDoe]

Will given that one of the reason Hitler managed to rise to power was because he and his fighting squads would beat up the communists squads in the streets you would kill two bird with one stone by going after Marx.

Well without Marx and the Russian Revolution, there probably never would have been Weimar or maybe even the course of the first war would have been different. We might have skipped right into a much less violent period of anti-monarchical systems.

 

[Weppers]

Well without Marx and the Russian Revolution, there probably never would have been Weimar or maybe even the course of the first war would have been different. We might have skipped right into a much less violent period of anti-monarchical systems.

Kill Franz Joseph and the sudden rupture of World War I might have gotten bled off over a few decades. Kill Otto von Bismarck and there is no unified Germany to stand against the full military might of all the rest of Europe put together. Kill Queen Victoria and the naval dominance of England might not have held steady into the 20th century and made German seafaring possible, which keeps the United States neutral instead of splitting the oceans with England in 1900 which pre-decided what US involvement would be. Many things could do many things.

But also if you kill Engels then Marx might only be remembered as a Dunning-Kreuger Diogenes and nothing else.

 

[mandatorylurk]

The Gay 7 starts up this week in Germany, keep an eye out for pants shitting or being last in line from Joepedo.

Jake Tapper: all my friends around the world say Jan 6th was horrible
Boris: lmao, no it wasn't, it was weird at worst

I know he's a snake fag over in Britain and likely ruining the conservatives holding power for the next five years but he's good in telling Tapper to get the fuck over himself.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

God, is it that time already? It only seemed like yesterday when he was being ostracized by literally every other leader and got put in the corner because nobody wanted to deal with him.

 

[make_it_so]

Zero. Conservatives are not as enraged by gay marriage. Abortion was contentious because one side wanted full. Unfettered access and the other side saw it as murder. These two extremes drove increased hatred and the middle was forgotten.


Gay marriage has none of that baggage. It is seen at worst as morally repugnant, not as morally unconscionable.

I don't know - people are getting really sick of the Pride pandering and especially with the Tranny degeneracy as it's actually starting to affect their kids. I know some folks on here have already drawn the line connecting the establishment of gay marriage with the current insanity of drag queen story hour, trooning out kids, school grooming, and letting the "female identifying" males into girls' spaces and all the subsequent problems (and assaults) that come with it. I would not be surprised if in a few years gay marriage begins to draw as much ire as abortion in some sectors, with people wanting to reverse it simply out of spite.