Is there a basis for anti-semitism?

[Homophobic white dog]

The "Egyptian slavery thing is a Jewish invention that really finds no evidence in history or in archeology" is itself an extremely recent invention of Biblical minimalists that requires an untenable amount of special pleading and just flat out ignoring evidence to maintain (i.e. the best parallel to the desert tabernacle being found in the battle camp of Rameses II despite the putative late date of the Priestly source, and there are endless other examples).

I mean, despite the fact that the Tabernacle was made by the fucking Hebrews in the Sinai while you're referring to the battle camp of an Egyptian pharaoh, a parallel only you can see. If you have a bunch of other examples, hopefully more convincing, then show them.

To be clear, I'm not discounting the Exodus story altogether, myths have a habit of being rooted in reality in some form, often misremembered (Troy anyone? There must have been a war between Achaeans and Luwians in Troy, whether it was over some broad or not is a different story), hence my parallel with the Hyksos period in Egypt.
Some have also argued that the mistreatment of Hebrews by Egyptians happened while they were still in Canaan (about as likely. Provinces of empires tend to get the short ends of most sticks), they only transposed themselves into Egypt in the Biblical account, so something must have definitely happened between Hebrews and Egyptians in the Bronze Age or at the end of it, but for the Exdous story, 1:1, we find no evidence.

 

[BelUwUga]

No problems with real Jews. The fakers are problematic though.

 

[Dom Cruise]

My take on Jews is this.

The stuff they promote is what they truly believe makes the world a better and safer place not just for themselves but for everyone, though obviously their main concern is themselves.

But they want the world to avoid blowing up into a disaster like WW2 again, they believe it's imperative for all of mankind that we avoid a third world war given how deadlier our weapons are now than then.

They think a world where every man has empty balls, a full belly and is hopped up on some sort of mind altering substance that makes you feel good ala weed, anti-depressants etc is a world where man has no reason to fight each other.

The trouble is that's not working as well as they hoped and when the cracks started to show they've really started to panic and started to veer off into insane bullshit out of pure panic, panic that makes them think less rationally, especially when Donald Trump was elected Jews have been gripped by this mass hysteria that the dude truly is some new Hitler esque figure.

But what people need to understand is that yes, while many Jews have been "up to something" it's not always been coming from a place of maliciousness but simply deeply misguidedness.

It pisses a lot of people off to realize that they've been watching a puppet show though, once you notice shit like there really doesn't seem to be a single actual movie made without a Jewish person involved in the production you can't unlearn that and it disturbs people to notice something that used to just go right over their heads, it makes them feel like they've been tricked and the natural instinct is to get violently angry, they notice the strings, they notice the puppeteer and their first instinct is to want to go up and beat the living fuck out of the puppeteer without stopping to think about what the show they were watching was and whether they were actually enjoying it.

But people need to take a step back and calm down a little with the violence and the hate, people need to understand that civilization has always worked that way where people need some sort of "show" to keep them entertained, stories that help glue the culture together, think myths, fairy tales, today it's movies, stuff that might not be true in a literal sense but has good lessons for people to take to heart.

The trouble is the internet, social media and smartphones have so radically changed the game that it created a sense of panic where crazy bullshit is pushed out of desperation, ie Woke, because no one really knows how to properly navigate this brave new world yet.

However I do want to be clear that obviously Jews DO have the malicious ones same as any group and those are the ones that are causing the real trouble for everyone, Jews included (even if they don't realize it), the only way forward for mankind is to realize every group has it's bad apples and we have to hold everyone to the same exact standards, no double standards, literally no matter who you are even if you're Jewish.

 

[Homophobic white dog]

The tl;dr to the post above is that secular Jews are high on tikkun olam, or at least the secularized, bastardized notion of it. Hard to disagree with.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

LOL and where are your stats on that? If you're willing to say something like that like it's a given, surely there are stats to back it up. But you're always saying the most outlandish shit without any evidence. You won't be able to produce a single figure. LOL.

In some cases, Jews have literally legalized their crimes. That's how so many people get away with financial bullshit and only when too many people complain do they throw a scapegoat like Bernie Madoff in prison. What the government and Wall Street was doing up to the Recession was so full of shady shit that many of them should have done time in prison. Or how about Steve Cohen, hedge fund manager (not to be confused with corrupt Memphis politician Steve Cohen) who was one of the biggest insider traders out there but only got hit with an SEC fine instead of going to prison. The system is rigged, and the people who benefit are the people in power who are disproportionately Jewish.

Here's an example. Jews have never made up more than like 3% of the population (due to Third World immigration they're now down to 2.2%) but for some reason there sure are a lot of "-steins" and "-bergs" and "Cohens."

Israelis are cool. As a collective, you can't be made only of bankers, journalists, annoying professionals, NGO owners or whatever if you're the majority in a country, if you have no one to truly parasitise upon. Send all Jews to Israel and you can witness the redemption arc of an otherwise loathsome people.

I think we should've given Jews a homeland, just because such a huge number refused to assimilate, but given them Israel was a crime against humanity. I mean while they probably would've fucked with the natives pretty much anywhere (like the people who wanted to give the Jews Alaska or the northern part of Western Australia or the one group of Nazis who wanted to give them Madagascar), giving them Palestine was a way for Western elites and of course (((elites))) to project influence in the Arab world and create a guaranteed customer for weapons.

I don't know where I would've sent the Jews. Probably Alaska. They could eat the freshest lox in the world all day and sell us oil and gold and shit (even though they'd probably rip us off). They wouldn't be hurting the natives anymore than white people did and there were only like 100K people in Alaska at the time anyway and most of them were either natives or military personnel. It would've been great for the Jews and for everyone else. Except for the crab fishing, that's not very kosher and they'd rip off the foreign goyim fishermen.

 

[Mothra1988]

In some cases, Jews have literally legalized their crimes. That's how so many people get away with financial bullshit and only when too many people complain do they throw a scapegoat like Bernie Madoff in prison. What the government and Wall Street was doing up to the Recession was so full of shady shit that many of them should have done time in prison. Or how about Steve Cohen, hedge fund manager (not to be confused with corrupt Memphis politician Steve Cohen) who was one of the biggest insider traders out there but only got hit with an SEC fine instead of going to prison. The system is rigged, and the people who benefit are the people in power who are disproportionately Jewish.

Here's an example. Jews have never made up more than like 3% of the population (due to Third World immigration they're now down to 2.2%) but for some reason there sure are a lot of "-steins" and "-bergs" and "Cohens."

I think we should've given Jews a homeland, just because such a huge number refused to assimilate, but given them Israel was a crime against humanity. I mean while they probably would've fucked with the natives pretty much anywhere (like the people who wanted to give the Jews Alaska or the northern part of Western Australia or the one group of Nazis who wanted to give them Madagascar), giving them Palestine was a way for Western elites and of course (((elites))) to project influence in the Arab world and create a guaranteed customer for weapons.

I don't know where I would've sent the Jews. Probably Alaska. They could eat the freshest lox in the world all day and sell us oil and gold and shit (even though they'd probably rip us off). They wouldn't be hurting the natives anymore than white people did and there were only like 100K people in Alaska at the time anyway and most of them were either natives or military personnel. It would've been great for the Jews and for everyone else. Except for the crab fishing, that's not very kosher and they'd rip off the foreign goyim fishermen.

I said stats you LARPing faggot. Give me hard statistics that show Jews commit more of any kind of crime, not just a random Wikipedia page.

Also again, Jews were there before Hadrian moved in Arabs. By any stretch they are native to Judea. Displacement does not change that.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Andrew Joyce is an academic who's done a lot of research on jewish people. Check out some of his videos if you want to learn about why jewish people are disliked without watching /pol/-tier sperging.

Andrew Joyce Archive

Archive of Videos and Podcasts with Andrew Joyce. Links to his Social Media and Articles: Articles https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/andrew-joyce/ Telegram https://t.me/OccidentalJoyce

odysee.com

Here is a decent intro.

https://odysee.com/@AndrewJoyceArchive:0/Introduction-to-the-JQ:4

 

[EyeGuy]

I mean, despite the fact that the Tabernacle was made by the fucking Hebrews in the Sinai while you're referring to the battle camp of an Egyptian pharaoh, a parallel only you can see. If you have a bunch of other examples, hopefully more convincing, then show them.

If the camp of YHWH, the divine king of the Israelites, has the exact layout of the camp of an Egyptian king, and specifically one whose capital the Israelites are have said to built, it's reasonable to conclude that the former was inspired by the latter and to take this as evidence of close contact between the two groups around the time of said Pharaoh. It's not a parallel "only I can see", by the way. It was first pointed out over a century ago by Hugo Gressman:



Both structures have a 2:1 outer courtyard and a 3:1 two-part inner tent in which the ruler's presence is represented by a pair of winged creatures (falcons/cherubim).

To be clear, I'm not discounting the Exodus story altogether,

Maybe you should have phrased it differently than "a Jewish invention that really finds no evidence in history or in archeology", then.

hence my parallel with the Hyksos period in Egypt.

Except there were plenty of other periods in Egyptian history where groups of Asiatics were present in Egypt.

Some have also argued that the mistreatment of Hebrews by Egyptians happened while they were still in Canaan (about as likely. Provinces of empires tend to get the short ends of most sticks), they only transposed themselves into Egypt in the Biblical account, so something must have definitely happened between Hebrews and Egyptians in the Bronze Age or at the end of it,

Funny, there's actually no evidence for this, biblical or otherwise (certainly by your standards). The Bible has no trouble recounting when the the Israelites were under the rule of foreigners in their homeland. It does so with the Philistines, Ammonites, Moabites, Midianites, Arameans, Assyrians, Babylonians, and I'm sure there are others that I'm missing. The one group it *doesn't* do this with is the Egyptians (aside from a few occasional raids by a Pharaoh here and there during the monarchies). All supposed sources, priestly and non-priestly, northern and southern, tell the same basic story - descent to Egypt, enslavement, divine liberation, desert sojourn and conquest and settlement of Canaan. There's no reason for this theory other than a prima facie refusal to accept that the biblical narrative can reflect historical reality.

but for the Exdous story, 1:1, we find no evidence.

Right. There's no direct, physical evidence for the Israelite enslavement and migration out of Egypt, just as there's no direct physical evidence for the migration of the Arameans across the Levant (or for their kingdom at all, really), or of the siege of Megiddo by Thutmose III, or of any number of events throughout ancient history that only survive in written sources. There's plenty of indirect evidence, though. The book of Exodus has more Egyptian loanwords than the post-exilic books have Persian loanwords. Egyptian motifs like the mighty hand and outstretched arm are used by the Torah exclusively in contexts relating to the Exodus. The Song of the Sea has many parallels to the monumental inscriptions of Ramesses II describing his victory at the Battle of Kadesh. Many names in the Torah, especially among the Levites, have Egyptian etymologies.

 

[timewave0]

I think it’s important to acknowledge the distinction between the small group of very wealthy and powerful Jews vs regular Jews. David working the deli counter is not the same as Mr. Shekelstein at the World Economic Forum or whatever.

I don’t know how coherent this statement actually is, but I think about it kind of like this:
Racial differences are important when you’re making macro-level decisions — say, deciding which people ought to be allowed to immigrate to your country. So if presented with a choice between letting in 500 Icelanders or 500 Somalians you should always choose the former. On the individual level however, there is so much variance that racial differences have far less predictive utility. The average jew you meet isn’t likely to have much more influence or power than you do.

Essentially there are three different groups of interest:
- powerful and wealthy Jews who control (or at least have significant influence over) NGOs, private equity, media organizations, government, and so forth
-hyper-conservative talmudists who openly express their belief that all goyim are inferior and will eventually be their slaves. See:

-progressive Jews who will reliably vote for policies that are detrimental to their home country’s natural-born population. Ultimately they are not much different from a typical affluent white progressive.

I can say in all honesty that I do not judge individuals on the basis of their group identity, but I’m also not so delusional that I disregard the relevance of group identity altogether. I hope that makes sense and doesn’t sound too unhinged. I’m not a /pol/fag

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

A lot of Orthodox Jews are based. See LOTT, Ron Coleman, et al.

Secular but not terribly political Jews can be cool and funny. See Jerry Seinfeld, Mel Brooks, and my username.

Some ultra-orthodox are insane, hateful bigoted weirdos who have sex through a hole in the sheet for real.

But liberal Jews are the worst people in the USA, absolutely ruinous, terrible assholes. See Gloria Steinem, Scott Weiner, practically every prominent feminist and gay crusader, and a cast of thousands.

Why is it this way? Complicated reasons. But the pattern holds up.

Because of how much craziness is in the Talmud and extra-biblical writings I think of them kind of like Mormons. The based ones are incredibly wholesome family-oriented good guys who have some odd niche beliefs. But the crazy ones are just off the map crazy.

 

[Kiwi Farms Lurker]

I guess americans hate the jews because they took their foreskins.

First they take your foreskins, then...

Spoiler: they take the rest.

 

[Homophobic white dog]

I think we should've given Jews a homeland, just because such a huge number refused to assimilate, but given them Israel was a crime against humanity. I mean while they probably would've fucked with the natives pretty much anywhere (like the people who wanted to give the Jews Alaska or the northern part of Western Australia or the one group of Nazis who wanted to give them Madagascar), giving them Palestine was a way for Western elites and of course (((elites))) to project influence in the Arab world and create a guaranteed customer for weapons.

I don't know where I would've sent the Jews. Probably Alaska. They could eat the freshest lox in the world all day and sell us oil and gold and shit (even though they'd probably rip us off). They wouldn't be hurting the natives anymore than white people did and there were only like 100K people in Alaska at the time anyway and most of them were either natives or military personnel. It would've been great for the Jews and for everyone else. Except for the crab fishing, that's not very kosher and they'd rip off the foreign goyim fishermen.

You can't give the Jews a homeland in Alaska or anywhere outside of Judea any more than you can give the Germans a homeland in Borneo, it has absolutely no relevancy in their history and nobody would've moved there. Not to mention Alaska is a frozen wasteland, and when Stalin tried to create a homeland in Siberia it didn't work out, the Jews (predictably) preferred the traditional Pale of Settlement, or just emigration to Palestine or the US.
It's in the name, Jew means Judean because they're from there, Judea is in Palestine, there's literally no other country for them, and Arabs could've got half of the country or just learned to make room, the intention from the beginning wasn't to kick them out, merely to become a majority, but their chimpout forced them to expel them.
Would either choice be less than ideal? Sure, actually the Arab response was pretty understandable and I'm sure most other peoples would've reacted the same, but because their response was so 'human' they're now left with nothing but their very Jewish victimhood complex that will characterise their existence and how they relate with literally every other people for centuries. I know Arabs, they fucking hate Palestinians because their impression is that they think they can do everything they want by virtue of their status as victims (sounds familiar? It should), they only hate Jews more because they're the one thing not Arabic in an Arabic sea.
I understand why they did this, but all the mess is their own doing.

And no, dude, the problem isn't that the Jews refuse to assimilate, because if they did they would be all Haredim on welfare reading a book all day and breeding like rabbits, harmless if not even exemplary.
No, dude, the problem is exactly the Jew who assimilates, in this you find the lawyer, the banker, the journalist, the NGO owner, the educated unaware subverter (like every other model minority, by the way) who, by the way, often has a gentile wife or husband. These are your "fellow white people".
Israel is the gentile's defense against the assimilated Jew, not against the religious one.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

You know, Ayn Rand was a Jew. Her objectivist philosophy if you analyze it in its deepest sense was an attack on communities. Look what happened to the white communities and the jobs in the US alone after deregulation steamed through.

Surprise surprise.

 

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

Just look at them.

 

[Skitarii]

Riddle me this. Who preaches for open borders but is surrounded by walls?

The same people who live in a pineapple under the sea

He said different sorts of crime.

How many times has the black man stolen nuclear secrets and given them to the enemy of the country where they reside?

How many times has an African nation fired on an ally, or tried to bomb a hotel and blame it on an ally?

Exactly 0, and that is the same number of jews that should be allowed to exist not couting rwanda, kagame is a jew on the inside

 

[frozenrunner]

The same people who live in a pineapple under the sea


Exactly 0, and that is the same number of jews that should be allowed to exist not couting rwanda, kagame is a jew on the inside

And how did they acquire that pineapple? Through jihad!

 

[El Goblina]

Is there a basis for anti-semitism? Interesting question. Reframing the words slightly, we develop a related question: Is anti-semitism based? Yes, anti-semitism is based. Therefore, there is a basis for anti-semitism. QED.

 

[Dom Cruise]

The tl;dr to the post above is that secular Jews are high on tikkun olam, or at least the secularized, bastardized notion of it. Hard to disagree with.

Yes, to boil it down myself Jews backed things like multiculturalism with a side of hedonism because they truly thought that would make for a better world for everyone, it didn't start off as "lol we want to literally genocide white people"

I mean look at where the "old ways" ultimately got us, the world wars, it's easy to wax nostalgic about the 1800s but if that culture was so great why did it ultimately blow itself to smithereens with the world wars? Of which WW2 was particularly disastrous for the Jews.

So why wouldn't a school of thought pop up that the world needs a radically different way of thinking and why wouldn't Jews be among the biggest champions for that? Especially with the introduction of nuclear weapons and the potential to blow ourselves to smithereens to the degree we go the way of the dinosaurs.

However it's obviously curdled into something bad as the years have gone on and new technologies have been introduced that have radically shaken things up, Jews aren't supernatural beings that can understand and plan everything perfectly, they're just as freaked out as we are as to what's been happening and tragically many of them are turning to dark thoughts of "shit, I guess this town ain't big enough for the both of us after all, I guess we better get them before they get us" which by the way, is exactly what's happening among white people as well.

What we got here in the world today is a bigass Mexican standoff and we should at least try to do is de-escalate the situation instead of escalate it.

 

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

Yes, to boil it down myself Jews backed things like multiculturalism with a side of hedonism because they truly thought that would make for a better world for everyone, it didn't start off as "lol we want to literally genocide white people"

I mean look at where the "old ways" ultimately got us, the world wars, it's easy to wax nostalgic about the 1800s but if that culture was so great why did it ultimately blow itself to smithereens with the world wars? Of which WW2 was particularly disastrous for the Jews.

So why wouldn't a school of thought pop up that the world needs a radically different way of thinking and why wouldn't Jews be among the biggest champions for that? Especially with the introduction of nuclear weapons and the potential to blow ourselves to smithereens to the degree we go the way of the dinosaurs.

However it's obviously curdled into something bad as the years have gone on and new technologies have been introduced that have radically shaken things up, Jews aren't supernatural beings that can understand and plan everything perfectly, they're just as freaked out as we are as to what's been happening and tragically many of them are turning to dark thoughts of "shit, I guess this town ain't big enough for the both of us after all, I guess we better get them before they get us" which by the way, is exactly what's happening among white people as well.

What we got here in the world today is a bigass Mexican standoff and we should at least try to do is de-escalate the situation instead of escalate it.

The jews never advocated for multiculturalism because they thought it would lead to a DEI utopia lol. There was some jew intellectual maybe a high ranking rabbi or someone who said something to the effect of "If the cat and dog are fighting, the mouse is safe".

Tom and Jerry is actually radically anti-black jewish-supremacist propaganda where the jew uses their leash on the white man to savage and oppress Tom who merely wants to defeat his true oppressor, the jew rat Jerry. Ever wonder why The Simpsons (writing room infamously overrepresented with jews) had those Itchy and Scratchy episodes of the mouse mutilating the cat in torturous ways (strangely reminiscent of another fictional tv show called 'The Holocaust'? Simply the jewish mind fantasizing about what they'd do to blacks given the chance. Understanding this makes it obvious why Poochie the Rocking Dog (white) was so mocked as being "uncool" and removed (genocided) from the show.

As for the rest of your post it's schizo nonsense I won't even bother addressing.

 

[Bonesjones]

If the holocaust had actually happened, jews would just be the most ungrateful people to ever exist. We saved them from extinction and they have zero gratitude for it?

Or they lied about it and they are exceptionally evil, pretending to suffer atrocities for personal gain at a large scale.

Either way they are subhuman scum.