US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[MrJokerRager]

We are truly living in the end times lads.

Spoiler: This is what pro choice looks like

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If you were to tell me this was at a Fag Parade, I would be inclined to believe you.
I want off this ride.

This clip should be shown on every TV news channel so Boomers know how badly they fucked up.

 

[Vaclav]

I guarantee Dems switch from trying to subtly encourage assassinations of Justices to outright assassinating them Seth Rich-style if they totally gut executive authority in the EPA decision. Of course, it would result in some actual insurrectionary activities from some segments of society. Dems are insects, and like wasps they literally cannot think beyond inflicting great pain on their targets in the short term.

They don't have the balls. SC justices are high up enough to have have elite status, and Western elites have a deal where they'll only attack each others' reputations. The alternative is a Hobbesian free for all that would destroy their hold on power.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I guarantee Dems switch from trying to subtly encourage assassinations of Justices to outright assassinating them Seth Rich-style if they totally gut executive authority in the EPA decision. Of course, it would result in some actual insurrectionary activities from some segments of society. Dems are insects, and like wasps they literally cannot think beyond inflicting great pain on their targets in the short term.

If they could get away with it, they’d have done it by now.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

We are truly living in the end times lads.

Spoiler: This is what pro choice looks like

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If you were to tell me this was at a Fag Parade, I would be inclined to believe you.
I want off this ride.

I would go into fight or flight, mostly fight, and just try to kill this thing if it popped up.

 

[NyQuilninja]

A lot of government stability has been historically based around a gentleman's agreement between the branches and their members. As long as everyone understood where they were and played nice, nobody actually had to play hardball - and absent a few friction points here and there it worked very well.

What we're seeing now is the Court recognizing that the 'soft' parallel system built from brandy and handshakes at the country club or mutual schooling at the Ivies has completely collapsed due to an aggressive statist ideology (Radical Post-Modern Marxism). More startlingly than seeing that in the Executive or Legislative branches, where there was always a bit of struggle, is that SCOTUS is seeing it in the lower courts.

Reading the most recent Bruen opinion was slightly shocking if you're familiar with the way the SCOTUS writes, the language used was extremely and uncharacteristically strong. Thomas and Alito especially seem furious with the Appeal Circuits, and I think they've realized that the other branches have poisoned the courts and disrespected them personally as Justices and the Constitution/rule of law.

From the SCOTUS perspective, the old way is over, and the Radicals killed it. The sleeping giant has awoke, to make a WW2 reference, and it seems that the Justices are ready to exercise their power fully and discard the old wishy-washy half measures of Roberts and previous Courts. They'll do it gladly, as from their view they were dragged into a conflict that was escalated by the other side.





Aside from just ruling against Biden et al at every chance, the Court has several options that would have more fundamental and far reaching consequences. First, you have to understand that Roe was not unique, or an outlier. There are many decisions in the last 50 or 60 years of jurisprudence that are simultaneously weak and foundational to the modern administrative state and Radical organizations.

For example, Chevron (1984), allows Congress to 'defer authority' to an executive agency with the force of law. This is how unelected Deep State bureaucrats in the FDA, EPA, or ATF decide on a whim that possession of a shoelace is a felony or your local factory has to spend 10 million for raccoon filters or go out of business. Ever since it was decided it's been on shaky ground, but nobody wanted to rock the boat - but now that the gloves are off, the current SCOTUS might not give a flying fuck. Overturning Chevron would, in a stroke, cripple the current administrative state because, just like with Roe, everyone in the Executive and Legislative assumed they'd just get away with it forever.

Here's another example, NY Times vs Sullivan, which held pretty high standards for defamation lawsuits, basically giving media carte blanche to lie and smear whoever they choose. Thomas in particular would like to overturn that, and likely at the same stroke remove the improperly granted shield of 230 from social media. Can you imagine a post-Sullivan world where newspapers could be sued for constant hate propaganda? It would cripple the social-media complex that makes up a majority of the Radicals soft power.

Those are just two big actions the court could take that would hit the administration immediately and forcefully, but it's only the tip of the iceberg. How would you like affirmative action declared unconstitutional? They could make it a twofer and nix all diversity initiatives while they're at it too! You want to force hard borders by declaring anything except imprisonment or return for border jumpers? Easy. They could even find that illegal anchor babies aren't 'subject to the jurisdictions under the 14th and therefore not citizens. (The irony of Thomas authoring a Blood and Soil opinion would kill me.)

There is no bottom to the ways that SCOTUS could throw massive wrenches into every activity of the other branches at fundamental, far reaching levels. They just never had the motivation to do so - until now.

You know you might be on to something it has occurred to me there is a Schism amongst the political Elite as well as the Elites in America in general it seems that the older Generations are dying off and there's s a power struggle for there eventual replacements. Especially if you consider the massive overreaction to Trump being president as well as the more radical younger left taking smaller positions of power

 

[Slappy McGherkin]

We are truly living in the end times lads.

Spoiler: This is what pro choice looks like

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If you were to tell me this was at a Fag Parade, I would be inclined to believe you.
I want off this ride.

So this is what "go fuck yourself" looks like in real life?

 

[elite_club]

I would go into fight or flight, mostly fight, and just try to kill this thing if it popped up.

Its a fucking dark souls boss IRL, there is only fight.

 

[Meat Target]

Its a fucking dark souls boss IRL, there is only fight.

Or a Silent Hill boss.

 

[verissimus]

Was thinking... Remember the 2000's movie cliche about the villianous right wing orchestrating terrorist attacks to scapegoat the peaceful middle east while they gain support from the average joe's sense of patriotism to attain more power?

What would be the left wing equivalent of that? And why will we never see it portrayed in any media ever?

The left wing version of that would be "domestic terrorists" and/or racist/xenophobic groups trying to attain power but the "progressive/diverse" police were able to stop them in the nick of time.

 

[Getting tard comed]

It's absolutely ridiculous how that First Amendment case was decided on purely ideological lines.

You really can't let left-wing judges in at all if you don't want the law used as a weapon solely against their ideological enemies.

You gotta respect the left. Everything and anything can be used as a weapon to get what they want. I think the fear of the right is justified coming from them. Imagine if the right acted the same way to get what they wanted.

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

>more gun rights
>less abortion
>more prayer in schools

Guys, I think may have voted for the wrong guy, I’m riding with Biden now.

 

[elite_club]

So this is what "go fuck yourself" looks like in real life?

Spoiler

 

[AmHole]

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Its the fucking nipple rubbing at the end for me.
"Thinking about killing babies makes my nipples so hard. Uwu would u fuck me I'd fuck me"

 

[Salubrious]

Or what about last year with the eviction moratorium?

They basically said that the executive just need the legislative to authorize it, and even differed to say that they were just gonna let the clock run out.

The admin basically doube dog dared them on that.

I really think this is underrated as a "turning point". It feels like the eviction moratorium was the issue where the Supreme Court went from trying to play nice to letting Clarence Thomas go full "fuck Biden" mode.

I am sick of that talking point of their's. They are truly convinced that somehow, the vast majority of the US is like this but Republicans maintain power. They really close themselves off from the reality of the rest of the country.

i like bees

It is absolutely amazing listening to people talk like conservative Americans are a weird anomoly and not half the fucking population. Hell, a quarter of black men are leaning conservative at this point. Yet, the media still acts like everyone is a Democrat by default, mostly I think due to the bubbles that they live in themselves.

Was thinking... Remember the 2000's movie cliche about the villianous right wing orchestrating terrorist attacks to scapegoat the peaceful middle east while they gain support from the average joe's sense of patriotism to attain more power?

What would be the left wing equivalent of that? And why will we never see it portrayed in any media ever?

I remember "Tomorrow Never Dies" being a very underrated movie and both Teri Hatcher and Michelle Yeoh being hot. Just substitute the Middle East for China ironically enough.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Keep in mind, these kinds of decision usually -define- a bench, you see one of them with any specific group of judges and then nothing until several retire or leave. And yet, within a week we have had the first and second ruled on and done. And a potential example of the third being on this very docket which we are waiting on. If they rule on all three it says outright this SCOTUS -does not give a fuck- and will make whatever ruling it damn well pleases, and if you have a problem with it you can go pound sand.


That has never occurred in the history of the United States.

In my Con Law class, we had to write a piece on the idea that the Judiciary is the "least dangerous branch," and talk about the extent to which the Court expands its authority. My argument was that the Court expands its authority primarily in response to the Legislature withdrawing its own authority through inaction and over-delegation, and I have to say that Congress has been doing rather a lot of that lately.

 

[soy_king]

In my Con Law class, we had to write a piece on the idea that the Judiciary is the "least dangerous branch," and talk about the extent to which the Court expands its authority. My argument was that the Court expands its authority primarily in response to the Legislature withdrawing its own authority through inaction and over-delegation, and I have to say that Congress has been doing rather a lot of that lately.

Pretty much. it's the same thing for the administrative state, if you ever take Leg Reg.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Pretty much. it's the same thing for the administrative state, if you ever take Leg Reg.

Law school was a decade ago, lol, if I'm taking more classes then something went very wrong.

 

[The Ugly One]

It is absolutely amazing listening to people talk like conservative Americans are a weird anomoly and not half the fucking population. Hell, a quarter of black men are leaning conservative at this point. Yet, the media still acts like everyone is a Democrat by default, mostly I think due to the bubbles that they live in themselves.

Democrats have embraced Marxist thinking on class and ideology. Ideology represents a class interest, so members of a given class will adhere to their class ideology. Any counterexamples suffer from "false consciousness." You see this with the abortion issue. Women on average lean more pro-life than men do, yet Democrats frame abortion as an "all women" issue. Pro-life women simply aren't validly women. From a lib's point of view, if a pro-life woman truly understood what it meant to be a woman, she'd 100% support abortion-on-demand.

According to Democrats, the only class interest represented by any of ideologies under the Republican umbrella is the white, middle class, heterosexual, Christian, rural male. So they can't really understand why they lose any elections at all, since only about 10% of the electorate should be voting Republican.

 

[mold]

For example, Chevron (1984), allows Congress to 'defer authority' to an executive agency with the force of law. This is how unelected Deep State bureaucrats in the FDA, EPA, or ATF decide on a whim that possession of a shoelace is a felony or your local factory has to spend 10 million for raccoon filters or go out of business. Ever since it was decided it's been on shaky ground, but nobody wanted to rock the boat - but now that the gloves are off, the current SCOTUS might not give a flying fuck. Overturning Chevron would, in a stroke, cripple the current administrative state because, just like with Roe, everyone in the Executive and Legislative assumed they'd just get away with it forever.

I'm just staring at this dreamily with hearts in my eyes

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Was thinking... Remember the 2000's movie cliche about the villianous right wing orchestrating terrorist attacks to scapegoat the peaceful middle east while they gain support from the average joe's sense of patriotism to attain more power?

What would be the left wing equivalent of that? And why will we never see it portrayed in any media ever?

Seconding Tommorow Never Dies.

Remember when we all thought it would be insane for a Journalist to light people into causing World War 3 for money?