Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Ah yes....the Alien vs Predator 2 school of film creation. Just make the entire movie pitch black so you cannot see anything.

They did the same thing in Solo and Game of Thrones. It’s like wearing five pairs of sunglasses.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Younglings have second stomachs. Reva, because she has to be the best, has three stomachs.

Just one more stomach away from being a literal lolcow.

 

[Creep3r]

What about the show "LEXX"? It's the one with that witty talking robot head that Doomcock ripped off for his "helmet".

A great show with a very unique cast and setting (can't go wrong with a zombie, a horny robot head , a crazy mutant girl with reptoid dna and a space mailman) but (please correct me if I'm wrong) I remember being turned off after one episode revealed that they were all stuck in a neverending and unchanging time loop. I really hope I've been misremembering though since I haven't seen the show in like 18 years and I've really been eager to rewatch the show.

 

[Shekelslovakia]

Ah yes....the Alien vs Predator 2 school of film creation. Just make the entire movie pitch black so you cannot see anything.

Kind of reminds me of those Warner Bros legendary picture Godzilla films, how with the first film it was so dark that even with the contrast cranked all the way up I couldn't even see any action until later finding out it was a bached transfer when they were converting the movie from 3D to 2D for Blu-ray. Luckily what I heard was that the 4K fix that problem now it looks better.

 

[TinCan Wizard]

Spoiler: Normie polls about Kenobi

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Normies were screeching about social distance/lockdowns so you won't kill grandma, and now support WW3 over Ukraine.

 

[Creep3r]

Give me a fucking break.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220626002221/https://www.fandom.com/articles/obi-wan-kenobi-finale-reva

The real rematch between Kenobi and Vader was impressive. And the callback to the split helmet dialog Vader once had with Ahsoka was unexpected. But it was fitting for the story they were telling. The only unsettling parts were how both Kenobi and Vader chose to walk away from an apparently defeated opponent. — Dark Lord of the Pithhttps://web.archive.org/web/20220626002221/https://starwars.fandom.com/f/u/28125712

I have some thoughts about Reva’s show if there will be one. Don’t you think Haja would be a great partner for her? Former Inquisitor and fake Jedi. — Chipazua

Swatteam123 wrote, “I actually love the way Reva’s storyline wrapped up. She saw in Luke the innocence and good that was once in her and she couldn’t allow herself to become what she Vader. I’m curious to see where her character goes from her.”

At least they had the decency to include one critical remark.

Aragorn Skywalker Of House Stark, meanwhile, wrote, “Reva’s backstory is gripping but totally unoriginal and her survival of a lightsaber to the chest is frankly ridiculous

In lighter news, this article is several months old, but it does warm my heart a little.

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/aliens-fireteam-elite-ip-franchise-lore-multimedia-universe-success/

Decrying Disney Wars canon, appreciating pre-Disney, praising Alien spinoffs for not just new stories but not abandoning its past and lore while also having the child of the hero continue the legacy instead of a rando child of evil regardless of its ups and downs. A shame its owned by Disney now too though...

Normies were screeching about social distance/lockdowns so you won't kill grandma, and now support WW3 over Ukraine.

And the same normalfags who sit around and do nothing as their liberties get taken away and turn a blind eye to videos openly showing Disney execs condoning child grooming. "B-But muh Disney+ endorphins! Internet news is too depressing! I wanted to see Lightyear and show my support solely because of LGBTQ inclusion but I was too scared of getting the coof on me since contagion rates are at an all time high!"

 

[make_it_so]

The nice thing about the absolute state of Star Wars and Star Trek is that I've been tracking down other old sci-fi shows I never got around to watching when they aired. Babylon 5 is putting nuTrek and nuWars to shame, and it's almost thirty years old! Might try Stargate next, I've heard a lot of positive things about it.

This is where I am with these series - I'm going back and either watching old episodes and stories that I missed, or I'm discovering entirely new stuff to enjoy. I watched Breaking Bad for the first time a few weeks ago and I'm hooked.

 

[jspit2.0]

Never could get into that one.
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SG-1 stands among the top of the pantheon when it comes to TV Sci-Fi. Gets better after season 1.

Farscape is really good too. Despite being made on a shoestring budget, it doesn't look cheap for the time. Once Scorpius takes over as the main villain it gets great.

Scorpius is one of the top villains in the last fifty years. I'm glad Farscape is well and truly wrapped up. You know they'd ruin him if they kept going, (Yes I'm aware of the after comics).

SG-1 is a mixed bag. It ran too long.

Such incompetence on display in the final episode of Kenobi. So many scenes were poorly lit to the point where you had little idea what was actually happening; this is especially unforgivable in the fight scenes. It's ironic that the bait for this bait-and-switch trash series was the rematch of Kenobi and Vader; and in both of those scenes the action looked like it was lit up with a book-light. Think back to the Luke/Vader fight from Empire, which also mostly occurred in a poorly-lit room: everything was crisp, clear and the darkness only enhanced the menace of Vader and the action in general.

What really strikes me is how boring the sets in these fight scenes are. The terrain is always flat and almost never a part of the struggle, merely background (and no, having the duelists throw CGI boulders at each other doesn't count). Comparing it to the ridiculously over-staged fight from Revenge of the Sith probably isn't fair, but the two Luke/Vader fights from the Trilogy offer a good contrast. Both fighters interacted with the set and Luke took full advantage of it (it must have irritated Vader greatly whenever Luke leapt to take 'the high ground'). It was a throwback to the old swashbuckler films that influenced Lucas so much that made the sets and props basically a third participant in the duels. That's harder to do when there ARE no props except for a couple of lightsabers and the 'set' is a giant green room. Plus, who employs shaky-cam during a dueling scene? The sort of directors who work for Disney, I suppose.

A lot of these problems and others pointed out in this thread, these signs point to a series that was incredibly rushed, despite its massive budget (most of which probably ended up in some people's pockets with the help of creative 'Hollywood accounting'). Maybe it had something to do with the Kenobi film project being scotched and converted to a streaming series. Maybe it's because Disney has been churning out Star Wars and MCU content at a dizzying pace to make sure there always product to consume, who knows.

It's one of the few shows you can justify setting on Tatooine. So you shoot it in the dark. Not just on Tatooine though. Apparently it's night time across the galaxy?

It wouldn't matter if either Warz or the MCU was good product. But both are pretty bleh.

I will say this, Kenobi is probably the best thing Disney has done except Rogue One. It would have surpassed it if they'd landed in the last episode, but they cucked out on Reva and the series suffered. She goes from child murderer to wobbie girl in a blink. The Kenobi/Vader fight (second one) was a major improvement on the first with Haden and Ewan delivering lines, some of which are better than their Revenge counterparts.

But there's so much baggage. The Leia subplot completely falls flat and strains credulity. Worse, Kenobi fails to ever actually defend Luke! Reva was actually solidly established with a motive and her loss to Vader at the end of 5 set her up to be the series major antagonist. But instead they relied on a Vader/Kenobi fight. That wouldn't be a problem except not only does it lack any tension or believability. Obi-Wan leaves Vader alive to merrily slaughter millions over the next twenty years. He doesn't even have his Revenge excuse that Palpatine was coming and Padme was dying. Meanwhile, you decide to have Reva, who you've set up as a major threat and bad guy, get clowned by a couple of moisture farmers.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

One thing I must give props to for the Disney shit is that it really makes me appreciate all the stuff in the original 6 movies more since they are pretty much peak fiction in comparison (okay except for maybe Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones barring the action and all the other consistently good things in the prequels).

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

I'm not watching Kenobi until someone deepfakes Stacey Dash's face onto Reva.

 

[Ishtar]

They did the same thing in Solo and Game of Thrones. It’s like wearing five pairs of sunglasses.

I swear the battle of winterfell was basically a black screen, maybe that was to hide the CGI gone to waste on that abysmal episode.

 

[Miller]

Here we go again.

Give me a fucking break.

https://web.archive.org/web/2022062...andom.com/articles/obi-wan-kenobi-finale-reva

It's Fandom, they're paid to shill for the company's products.

 

[God of Nothing]

Here we go again.

it actually worth anything or are they still pulling their punches so hard to avoid the sting of being wrong about what direction Star Wars would go?

 

[Mister Ferro]

I'm happy that Rich now has an nice island to run off to thanks to the Disney money he got from these 2 videos!!!

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

"You tell him that it was funny then, and it's funny now! Little orphan Annie, haw haw haw!"

You tell him to his face!!

Sure will do!

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Of course.

https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1541897229920833536

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Of course.

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https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1541897229920833536

Hell, the show felt like I was watching five hours of wall paint dry off the wall.

 

[Fools Idol]

I still don't understand how Disney fucked up the franchise this badly. When Lucas sold Lucasfilm he did so with everything in place, they had an outline for the new trilogy and actors on board. You can criticise Lucas writing and direction skill but he's a great "ideas guy" and the man was surrounded by talent and his vision for the of the sequel trilogy was 100% better than what we got.

They had tons of extended universe content that they could've sifted through to use to come up with ideas of shows and movies. But no, it's just the same nostalgia bait over and over again. The Obi-Wan show is a perfect example of everything wrong with Star Wars, there's a whole galaxy of places to go see, people to meet and things to do but what you get from Disney is Luke, Leia and Darth Vader on Tatooine.

Have Obi-Wan do absolutely anything other than fight Darth Vader. Have him fight a smuggling ring on some planet or something, do something interesting with he character in a side story.

 

[Ghostse]

A great show with a very unique cast and setting (can't go wrong with a zombie, a horny robot head , a crazy mutant girl with reptoid dna and a space mailman) but (please correct me if I'm wrong) I remember being turned off after one episode revealed that they were all stuck in a neverending and unchanging time loop. I really hope I've been misremembering though since I haven't seen the show in like 18 years and I've really been eager to rewatch the show.

You are (mostly) correct.
The implication was upto the moment the show started, they were on another iteration of the unending time time loop. The ending of the final episode left it ambiguous as to if they/Prince had escaped or reset the constant cycle of Big Bang/Collapse. I started to get tired of it around season 6, after they fought the Robot Arm guy. I checked all the way out during the Plante Heaven/Planet hell arc, and pretty much gave up when they did the earth arc, only watching the final episode.

Also you forgot Plant Waifu who was the best character on the show, even if she was only there occasionally.

Scorpius is one of the top villains in the last fifty years. I'm glad Farscape is well and truly wrapped up. You know they'd ruin him if they kept going, (Yes I'm aware of the after comics).

SG-1 is a mixed bag. It ran too long.

Scorpius was a well done villain who also had the series events supporting him. He was smart - but since he needed the main character alive, it allowed him to 'lose' without making him less of a threat or inconsistent. He had an understandable tragic backstory, but was still pretty much just evil and after power. He was smart enough to work with the heroes a couple of times, and He also had a chain of command hampering him.
So not just a good villain, but he was used well and correctly.

Plus he created Harvey, the best character.

SG-1 ran aimlessly for far too long. They didn't really have a plan for a while and it showed.

 

[Miller]

it actually worth anything or are they still pulling their punches so hard to avoid the sting of being wrong about what direction Star Wars would go?

It's another episode of "Lucas Man Bad", "Star Wars/ANH was a cheap movie" and "manbabies were outraged that we saw Luke stopping himself from killing Kylo Ren".