Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Did Aunt Beru of all people really need a #Girlboss moment?
I was thinking about this. So because of Beru telling Owen they stand and fight, by the time episode 4 comes with Luke out looking for R2-D2 , that Owen and Beru may have known something was going down. Owen says they should leave. But Beru makes them stay, again.

Beru is the reason they got killed by the stormtroopers.
 
I was thinking about this. So because of Beru telling Owen they stand and fight, by the time episode 4 comes with Luke out looking for R2-D2 , that Owen and Beru may have known something was going down. Owen says they should leave. But Beru makes them stay, again.

Beru is the reason they got killed by the stormtroopers.
i really like how most modern deep thots in these shows just make the characters they're aggrandizing into giant retards
 
It gets even sillier that when both these moisture farmers can indeed take her on since even Owen kicked her ass. And then the silliness increases when young Luke outruns Reva and she had to rely on the force to catch up.
That's to say nothing about adding convoluted side stories to plot elements you shouldn't fuck with. Bad enough that Kenobi doesn't simply watch over Luke without an intergalactic adventure for an intermission, but they also mess with Luke, Leia and even the Lars family? It's like adding a story that baby Superman went off and saved a planet while he was in his pod en route to Earth with the power of his 1-year old brain.

They are aware that there are supposed to be moments of calm and relative quiet in stories, right? Not everything has to be turned into a grand-scale campaign. This just makes IV look retroactively retarded in that those innocent moisture farmers got torched and killed when they had a means of defending themselves. That and Vader is starting to look very incompetent with how many Jedi assholes are surviving Order 66. I mean, apparently he couldn't even do his first job of killing the younglings correctly,
 
I was thinking about this. So because of Beru telling Owen they stand and fight, by the time episode 4 comes with Luke out looking for R2-D2 , that Owen and Beru may have known something was going down. Owen says they should leave. But Beru makes them stay, again.

Beru is the reason they got killed by the stormtroopers.
So, instead of being brutally murdered by Empire, they were killed because grrl powah? I hate new disney canon
 
The nice thing about the absolute state of Star Wars and Star Trek is that I've been tracking down other old sci-fi shows I never got around to watching when they aired. Babylon 5 is putting nuTrek and nuWars to shame, and it's almost thirty years old! Might try Stargate next, I've heard a lot of positive things about it.

Stargate is one I've meaning to get into and never have.

I also recommend Farscape and Blake's 7.
 
That's to say nothing about adding convoluted side stories to plot elements you shouldn't fuck with. Bad enough that Kenobi doesn't simply watch over Luke without an intergalactic adventure for an intermission, but they also mess with Luke, Leia and even the Lars family? It's like adding a story that baby Superman went off and saved a planet while he was in his pod en route to Earth with the power of his 1-year old brain.

They are aware that there are supposed to be moments of calm and relative quiet in stories, right? Not everything has to be turned into a grand-scale campaign. This just makes IV look retroactively retarded in that those innocent moisture farmers got torched and killed when they had a means of defending themselves. That and Vader is starting to look very incompetent with how many Jedi assholes are surviving Order 66. I mean, apparently he couldn't even do his first job of killing the younglings correctly,
Younglings have second stomachs. Reva, because she has to be the best, has three stomachs.
 
You don't understand, we gotta find the final solution for (((OT FANS))) because they stabbed us in the back.

Ignore that the industry has lost its writing staff, financial incentive for products thanks to the nightmare that is the stock market, and how cheap friends are better than a pricy professional. God forbid we just acknowledge that we were set for failure no matter the path ever since Hollyweird pulled a Thatcher on the writer's guild.
its not that the writers are cheap, fan fic is filled with people that "do it for free" but about not caring because of international, its expected that a fuck load of things will get changed in translation a la the mexican simpsons edit or every funimation/4kids anime. when a majority of your gross comes from overseas and will be "fixed in post" sotospeak, you don't have to care about quality. now that these companies can't rely on china like they did the last decade they will be forced to put more work in, unless we're talking about streaming where it truely is about consume then move on.

think about how many different cuts films had depending on if they were released in russia, korea, china, the middle east, etc.

everything from sexual themes to smoking/drinking to cultural references to their humor would have to be either cut or omitted.
I am going to watch the new Kenobi episode later since sunk-cost fallacy but this thread makes it sound like it would be really funny.

Also Taika Waititi has ideas for his star wars film. He's not the greatest director, but I'd respect him greatly if he commits to not putting any pre-established characters in his movie, even more if this also will make Filoni's OCs not involved.
David Cohen is just Joss Whedon with a spray tan and a better grasp on modern day SJW politics. you're a fucking idiot to not expect a shittier version of TLJ. YO MAMA
 
"Why, Normies? Why do you keep Disney alive?"

"You're not the chosen people! You were supposed to save your shekels, not spend them!"
Stargate is one I've meaning to get into and never have.

I also recommend Farscape and Blake's 7.

SG-1 is one of those classic shows with an overarching plot for each season and some loosely-bound individual episodes. It's actually really good, but like all long-running shows, it eventually overtakes its own lore with silliness and recasts and fizzles out just when they pull the plug on it. It hits its peak at about the middle of the entire run.
 
I was thinking about this. So because of Beru telling Owen they stand and fight, by the time episode 4 comes with Luke out looking for R2-D2 , that Owen and Beru may have known something was going down. Owen says they should leave. But Beru makes them stay, again.

Beru is the reason they got killed by the stormtroopers.
At least we know Disney supports castle doctrine. Nice of them. :)
 
At least we know Disney supports castle doctrine. Nice of them. :)

I hated how Owen just sat there as Beru handed him his fucking gun and told him to fight! Crazy thought, there are two of you. Owen can hold them off while Beru takes their small child and fucking runs from the crazy space wizards!

It was literally the Visionaries comics, except Owen has no warning of the attack. Maul takes his rifle and beat the shit out of him...(like he should considering).

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He's literally using Luke to get to Obi-Wan. That's crucial. Because note how this give a reason for Owen to not want Kenobi around? Remember the OT? Owen doesn't want Ben around, he calls him crazy. Oh and speaking of our boy....he's actually doing his job in the book they ripped off.


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Note how he actually cares about his only fucking job, keeping Luke secret and safe.

There's an actual, badass Lightsaber fight. Without redundancy, as in this version Clone Warz and Rebelz never happened. This is their first meeting since Naboo.

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Note, Owen is fully in line with his appearance in New Hope. He tells Kenobi to fuck the hell off and Obi-wan does what is necessary. There's not an awkward scene of a blubbering Sith Lord or a hardened farmer or a Jedi knight cucking out because of intersectionality. The fight lasts longer then five fucking seconds. Everyone is in character.


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Death is meaningless in Disney's SW after all.

If death is meaningless, then life is meaningless as consequence.
If anything, if you’re a Jedi/Sith, death in encouraged because you can lift TIE fighters and bring thunder down from the sky when you’re dead.

Finished the second season of The Mandalorian, and I'm not really sure where the praise comes from. It actually got really boring by its end. I watched it with a lady friend and even she was eye-rolling at there being 4 ladies in the team, and hated the Ahsoka episode.

Honestly, what makes them think there's anything remotely exciting about watching level 100 Triple Prestige Mandalorians mowing down scores of Level 1 Stormtroopers? Who gives a shit? There's nothing that makes them a threat, and the Empire never magically adapts to getting their Star Destroyer/Doomsday device boarded and fucked over by whomever for the 20th time. It worked for the original cast because they were human and very lacking in any sort of armour or protection, so they stood a chance of getting shot or killed. Compare that to a bunch of mercs wearing invulnerable armour. It's just not engaging, and predictable. "Oh look, the two guys with jetpacks took off to the sides and some Stormtroopers appeared to attack the grounded guys moments later. I'll bet the jetpackers will come back and kill them all. Oh look, there it is! *snore*"

That's to say nothing about everyone being a bunch of retards to let the plot happen. Boba Fett appearing to threaten the Mandalorian with violent force, yet is the first to back down at the sign of violence? He knew the kid was taken by the Dark Troopers that he's aiming to intercept, yet he has to be told to disengage because he might kill the kid that he's already aware of?

The Moff guy allowing their stupid shuttle craft to crash through the launch bay doors to immediately fuck up his grand scheme? You don't think he wouldn't immediately fire upon them for violating his orders? Close the doors so they couldn't enter? Order the TIE Fighter that's about to be launched to shoot at them? They had nothing of value for him to reconsider destroying them, and it's one fucking shuttle craft versus his entire operation.

Even the Dark Troopers stop attacking the doors the characters are hiding behind for 10 minutes so that Luke can come destroy them before it's too late. It was ridiculously contrived, and the CGI still looked fake and Uncanny Valley as all heck.

Pedro Pascal constantly stroking his own ego and showing off his face also takes all impact away from the character too. It's the Master Chief thing - show his face and whatever mystique or intrigue the character has is suddenly dead and gone.
The praise came from CGI Luke coming in the end, and most people were happy about it at that point since Disney what a big pile of dung on Luke prior.

Now, because of The Book of Boba Fett, none of that matters.

The nice thing about the absolute state of Star Wars and Star Trek is that I've been tracking down other old sci-fi shows I never got around to watching when they aired. Babylon 5 is putting nuTrek and nuWars to shame, and it's almost thirty years old! Might try Stargate next, I've heard a lot of positive things about it.
This. I just marathoned through all of Babylon 5 and I’m glad to have visited a series that was under budget to continue and relied on its writing to tell the story. Wish we had more sci-fi like that.

Currently on the first season of SG-1.
 
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What about the show "LEXX"? It's the one with that witty talking robot head that Doomcock ripped off for his "helmet".
Never could get into that one.
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SG-1 stands among the top of the pantheon when it comes to TV Sci-Fi. Gets better after season 1.

Farscape is really good too. Despite being made on a shoestring budget, it doesn't look cheap for the time. Once Scorpius takes over as the main villain it gets great.
 
Such incompetence on display in the final episode of Kenobi. So many scenes were poorly lit to the point where you had little idea what was actually happening; this is especially unforgivable in the fight scenes. It's ironic that the bait for this bait-and-switch trash series was the rematch of Kenobi and Vader; and in both of those scenes the action looked like it was lit up with a book-light. Think back to the Luke/Vader fight from Empire, which also mostly occurred in a poorly-lit room: everything was crisp, clear and the darkness only enhanced the menace of Vader and the action in general.

What really strikes me is how boring the sets in these fight scenes are. The terrain is always flat and almost never a part of the struggle, merely background (and no, having the duelists throw CGI boulders at each other doesn't count). Comparing it to the ridiculously over-staged fight from Revenge of the Sith probably isn't fair, but the two Luke/Vader fights from the Trilogy offer a good contrast. Both fighters interacted with the set and Luke took full advantage of it (it must have irritated Vader greatly whenever Luke leapt to take 'the high ground'). It was a throwback to the old swashbuckler films that influenced Lucas so much that made the sets and props basically a third participant in the duels. That's harder to do when there ARE no props except for a couple of lightsabers and the 'set' is a giant green room. Plus, who employs shaky-cam during a dueling scene? The sort of directors who work for Disney, I suppose.

A lot of these problems and others pointed out in this thread, these signs point to a series that was incredibly rushed, despite its massive budget (most of which probably ended up in some people's pockets with the help of creative 'Hollywood accounting'). Maybe it had something to do with the Kenobi film project being scotched and converted to a streaming series. Maybe it's because Disney has been churning out Star Wars and MCU content at a dizzying pace to make sure there always product to consume, who knows.
 
Such incompetence on display in the final episode of Kenobi. So many scenes were poorly lit to the point where you had little idea what was actually happening; this is especially unforgivable in the fight scenes.
Ah yes....the Alien vs Predator 2 school of film creation. Just make the entire movie pitch black so you cannot see anything.
 
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