DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[DemoniusChexMix]

If Keemstar was serious he'd have called it "Fuck, Marry, Kill".

Somewhere in an alternate dimension, the podcast ended after 3 episodes due to a spat over dividing super chat revenue.

 

[Adebisi]

A question for every nudnik mentally ill fuck here.

How would a dsp podcast with other people would play out?

I personally think that if he did, it would be with his dents. Imagine derich co-hosting and suddenly starting to shout out porn stars.

He should just run a podcast with OIFaggot and Jaxx Raxxor. 30 min of useless fighting game talk while Jaxx Raxxor blows him. Then a 30 min segment about how support has slowed down and I really need your help as OIFaggot blows him.

 

[Robust User]

Didn't take long for this guy to become a cow:

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Is this guy really clout chasing off of DSP?

 

[Beverly Sutphin]

Is this guy really clout chasing off of DSP?

To quote ItsAGundam: "Gotta pick that content cotton!"

 

[Dona Morte]

Guys this is a win.
More eyes on Phil the better.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

ive missed all the keem stuff. anyone got a TL: DR on whats going on?

He offered DSP $50K to be on a podcast with Wings and Boogie where it would be called "The Lolcow Podcast". Keem has tweeted directly at him and Phail didn't bother to reply at all. Keem went into Phail's stream and superchatted for all the dents to see, about how he would give him $50K to be on a podcast. Phil immediately banned him then started talking shit. Keem then made a video shitting on DSP last night and explained how Phil tried to ghost him

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I hate to keep being the fun police, especially on something that is ultimately speculation, but I don't get the logic of people saying this would be a hugely successful project, or even thinking it is remotely worth 150k in signup fees.

And maybe this is me being pedantic, but Keem kept saying podcast, not a stream. Those are two completely different sources of revenue. Podcasts largely make money off of subscription services, endorsements, or Patreon support. Another huge difference is interaction. Podcasts are pre-recorded. This is the big thing that I think hurts Phil and Wings (from what little I know of him) especially. There wouldn't be any troll tips. Or fan cheers or whatever. With endorsements, Phil is definitely a pariah, he rarely gets offers and the few times he has, people have (rightly) chased them away, pointing out Phil's toxic behavior and how bad it is to be associated with him as a company.

From a subscription standpoint, a few detractors might pay. It sounds like Wing's audience is pretty dedicated to fucking with him so that might have some viability. A few people from here would probably subscribe and share with the rest of us. But I think the majority of the detractor audience wouldn't pay. It'd be like if Phil's YouTube was member only, maybe some dedicated restreamers would pay to watch, but I don't think the average detractor would cough up the money. And rightly so. Same deal with Patreon, heck, just the other day some guy suggested doing the $50 thing to troll with Phil and get him to make a video and people rightly pointed out that was dumb.

So, then on top of all of that, you're also splitting the profits 4 ways. And that's after Keem already invested 150k in solely signup bonuses. There's also an exclusivity issue. Phil would presumably still be streaming, which means he's freely saying stupid stuff on the regular, without him turning into a cowardly shill because other people are in a call with him. So even from a detractor standpoint, you're not missing much content by not paying money for the podcast.

I feel like Keem has to know this. That's why I kept saying Phil wasn't unreasonable for dismissing the offer because it was way too good to be true. I think if Keem really wanted to get this group together for a group stream, he could have paid each of them 5k or something and it would have a much greater chance of working. Although even with the added benefit of superchats and stuff, I still think people are greatly overestimating how much Keem could make. Even if it was like, an 6 part discussion or whatever, I think at best he'd break even or make a small profit after the 15k investment. And that's assuming all the profits went to him.

Now despite all that, I do wish it happened because it would be more entertaining for us. And I think that a lot of people share that mentality. But it's fine to admit that, something is still dumb/improbable even if it would be entertaining for us. We don't need to jump through hoops to make Phil seem like a dumbass for denying it, or even pretending that Keem wasn't solely trolling with the offer in the first place. It's not like it's a total loss, the rants alone were entertaining and it's always amusing to see yet another person take up space rent free in Phil's head.

 

[Lady Adjani]

Has reviewtechusa ever talked about why he donates to phil? all his livestreams have pretty much been shitting on Phil? I guess the pignosis got to him, hard.

RTU flip-flops between donating to Piggy in hopes of him coming on his podcast and acting like a dent, to calling Philip a scumbag.

The fat retard is doing everything in his power to try and farm clicks and regain some sort of relevancy in the youtube space, he'd sell his own mother for extra revenue if he could.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

I hate to keep being the fun police, especially on something that is ultimately speculation, but I don't get the logic of people saying this would be a hugely successful project, or even thinking it is remotely worth 150k in signup fees.

And maybe this is me being pedantic, but Keem kept saying podcast, not a stream. Those are two completely different sources of revenue. Podcasts largely make money off of subscription services, endorsements, or Patreon support. Another huge difference is interaction. Podcasts are pre-recorded. This is the big thing that I think hurts Phil and Wings (from what little I know of him) especially. There wouldn't be any troll tips. Or fan cheers or whatever. With endorsements, Phil is definitely a pariah, he rarely gets offers and the few times he has, people have (rightly) chased them away, pointing out Phil's toxic behavior and how bad it is to be associated with him as a company.

From a subscription standpoint, a few detractors might pay. It sounds like Wing's audience is pretty dedicated to fucking with him so that might have some viability. A few people from here would probably subscribe and share with the rest of us. But I think the majority of the detractor audience wouldn't pay. It'd be like if Phil's YouTube was member only, maybe some dedicated restreamers would pay to watch, but I don't think the average detractor would cough up the money. And rightly so. Same deal with Patreon, heck, just the other day some guy suggested doing the $50 thing to troll with Phil and get him to make a video and people rightly pointed out that was dumb.

So, then on top of all of that, you're also splitting the profits 4 ways. And that's after Keem already invested 150k in solely signup bonuses. There's also an exclusivity issue. Phil would presumably still be streaming, which means he's freely saying stupid stuff on the regular, without him turning into a cowardly shill because other people are in a call with him. So even from a detractor standpoint, you're not missing much content by not paying money for the podcast.

I feel like Keem has to know this. That's why I kept saying Phil wasn't unreasonable for dismissing the offer because it was way too good to be true. I think if Keem really wanted to get this group together for a group stream, he could have paid each of them 5k or something and it would have a much greater chance of working. Although even with the added benefit of superchats and stuff, I still think people are greatly overestimating how much Keem could make. Even if it was like, an 6 part discussion or whatever, I think at best he'd break even or make a small profit after the 15k investment. And that's assuming all the profits went to him.

Now despite all that, I do wish it happened because it would be more entertaining for us. And I think that a lot of people share that mentality. But it's fine to admit that, something is still dumb/improbable even if it would be entertaining for us. We don't need to jump through hoops to make Phil seem like a dumbass for denying it, or even pretending that Keem wasn't solely trolling with the offer in the first place. It's not like it's a total loss, the rants alone were entertaining and it's always amusing to see yet another person take up space rent free in Phil's head.

I assumed that the podcast idea would've been live-streamed like how other youtubers do it. Regardless of what happened, this would've been a win-win for detractors. Him denying the money now gives everyone more shit to say about him while had he accepted, then his whales would've known and it might've resulted in slower tips thus causing him to be more salty and beg more due to the constantly low tips. Hell, he might've just blown that money in a month or 2 so it would've been fun to see.

To go with what @Oliveoil said, the more eyes on Phil, the better and since Keem is a huge youtuber, it would've been had him back into the spotlight similar to when he masturbated on stream 6 years ago.

I don't know if it would've been profitable as this all felt like a "Dinner for Schmucks" type situation where the rich are just trying to get the dumbest people together for their own amusement. But I think there would've been sponsors just because it's Keemstar so regardless, there would've been some money from ads and sponsors. Not saying it would've broke even, but he'd at least would've gotten that plus whatever how many views 300k- 500k gets (that seems to be the average amount Keem gets on each of his videos)

 

[The One And Only SALTE]

This whole Keemstar thing seemed weird to me, and I think I finally understand why. DSP is just about the only person Keemstar can punch down on. Yeah, Keemstar has a lot of money, but he's just as big of a loser as Phil.

Keemstar is a laughing stock among youtubers and his entire fanbase is a bunch of 12 year olds retards. He ruined more than a few lives with unconfirmed drama shit, and even before Dramaalert he was some turbovirgin dipshit who trolled people in the same way Phil did: badly.

Yeah, Phil is on level 1. And Keemstar used cheats in a multiplayer game (catering to kids with fake drama shit) which makes him seem really good on the leaderboard (has a lot of material shit), but in reality he's still just a sad little gnome.

But don't get me wrong, this battle of Who-is-the-biggest-loseroo is entertaining and no matter who wins, some useless waste of space is gonna get his ego bruised.

Keem also has less of a sham marriage and is somehow a father. His daughter is gonna be real fucked up when she enters the real world after having that shitstain for a dad.

Also imagine going on social media to not be social, he always goes on about engagement but the mother fucker never actually engages in his audience they have to engage him.

Nobody can even engage with him since he blocks replies anyway. He hides behind every barrier he can get away with setting up.

Has reviewtechusa ever talked about why he donates to phil? all his livestreams have pretty much been shitting on Phil? I guess the pignosis got to him, hard.

More than likely he knows it's the only way to get his fucking attention (unless you're Derich) and to him throwing him 5 bucks is absolutely nothing. Honestly donating to Phil is a way of getting a fiscally cheap laugh and most people who donate to him are basically throwing loose change anyway, but it really is the principle of the matter. Even if I can afford to throw 5 bucks at Phil to bruise his ego, I could be uisng that 5 dollars to do literally anything else that has infinitely more entertainment value. I throw hundreds of dollars to friends at a time because I think they deserve it. What reason would I have to give Phil even a single dollar?

Is this guy really clout chasing off of DSP?

A lot of detractors have. Look at Tevin. It's not a bad idea, honestly, and why even I entertained doing it. I like making videos and commentary and he is the lowest of low hanging fruit to do it on so it'll at least give me practice for talking about things that are more meaningful than his pitiful life.

I hate to keep being the fun police, especially on something that is ultimately speculation, but I don't get the logic of people saying this would be a hugely successful project, or even thinking it is remotely worth 150k in signup fees.

And maybe this is me being pedantic, but Keem kept saying podcast, not a stream. Those are two completely different sources of revenue. Podcasts largely make money off of subscription services, endorsements, or Patreon support. Another huge difference is interaction. Podcasts are pre-recorded. This is the big thing that I think hurts Phil and Wings (from what little I know of him) especially. There wouldn't be any troll tips. Or fan cheers or whatever. With endorsements, Phil is definitely a pariah, he rarely gets offers and the few times he has, people have (rightly) chased them away, pointing out Phil's toxic behavior and how bad it is to be associated with him as a company.

From a subscription standpoint, a few detractors might pay. It sounds like Wing's audience is pretty dedicated to fucking with him so that might have some viability. A few people from here would probably subscribe and share with the rest of us. But I think the majority of the detractor audience wouldn't pay. It'd be like if Phil's YouTube was member only, maybe some dedicated restreamers would pay to watch, but I don't think the average detractor would cough up the money. And rightly so. Same deal with Patreon, heck, just the other day some guy suggested doing the $50 thing to troll with Phil and get him to make a video and people rightly pointed out that was dumb.

So, then on top of all of that, you're also splitting the profits 4 ways. And that's after Keem already invested 150k in solely signup bonuses. There's also an exclusivity issue. Phil would presumably still be streaming, which means he's freely saying stupid stuff on the regular, without him turning into a cowardly shill because other people are in a call with him. So even from a detractor standpoint, you're not missing much content by not paying money for the podcast.

I feel like Keem has to know this. That's why I kept saying Phil wasn't unreasonable for dismissing the offer because it was way too good to be true. I think if Keem really wanted to get this group together for a group stream, he could have paid each of them 5k or something and it would have a much greater chance of working. Although even with the added benefit of superchats and stuff, I still think people are greatly overestimating how much Keem could make. Even if it was like, an 6 part discussion or whatever, I think at best he'd break even or make a small profit after the 15k investment. And that's assuming all the profits went to him.

Now despite all that, I do wish it happened because it would be more entertaining for us. And I think that a lot of people share that mentality. But it's fine to admit that, something is still dumb/improbable even if it would be entertaining for us. We don't need to jump through hoops to make Phil seem like a dumbass for denying it, or even pretending that Keem wasn't solely trolling with the offer in the first place. It's not like it's a total loss, the rants alone were entertaining and it's always amusing to see yet another person take up space rent free in Phil's head.

Depends on the podcast, some are live recorded and a lot of them make money through ad revenue and sponsorship or merchandise sales, not necessarily subscription services.
As I said before, Wings trolls would be the only ones Superchatting during the fucking thing; Phil would get next to no support from detractors and I'm not sure on Boogie's situation but I think a lot of people hate-watch him for free and would be less inclined to give him any money as well. Keem's idea of monetizing the trolls only works when the trolls wanna pay to begin with, and his fanbase of retards doesn't really represent the fanbases of the other three; Phil's fanbase, for one, actually consists of mostly addled adults. They may have the intelligence and emotional maturity of a toddler but they have to be working in order to give Phil as much money as they do.

More than likely everything else you're mentioning (simulstreaming, revenue split) would be worked out in the signing contracts between Keem and the guests. Again: Keem might be an unscrupulous asshole but he isn't stupid. That and Keem has a lot of money to piss away and is more than likely bored with retirement, so of course the offer was legit. Phil is smart in declining it, though, considering who is offering it. I'd turn down Keem as well just on principle, but just because he turned that offer down doesn't suddenly give Phil an excuse to intiate Begcon level 1.

 

[RaidenAUndertale]

Lol with the 50k, he could have done a goodwill towards his parents and paid them back 2 fold for the 4k they ditched out and Potentially kickstarted the 10 year plan 3 years into it.

He doesn't need 50k to pay back 4k. If we're being real, the only thing DSP could do with 50k is ascend the wwe champions ranks! Also "pay them back 2 fold" lmao. Maybe that's what humans would do, not greed creatures.

Why would anyone believe that this dumbfuck is honest about Phil getting 50k for a 'great' opportunity.

Keem is just as retarded as Phil is. I would ignore the shit out of him too if I was literally anybody who wasn't desperate for money.

It depends on what you understand by "great". If you think like Phil, the 50k in and of itself are the grear opportunity.

DSP would have sucked on the podcast anyways. Every single time we've seen him interact with other people its been weird. There's no way he could just sit and shoot the shit like wings and boogie have on PKA. The entire thing would just be Wings and Boogie routinely making asses out of themselves while DSP did his KO Gaming big boy professional youtuber impersonation that he did in his "edited" videos.

What you just described sounds good to me! Good in a lolcow kind of way. Maybe my brain is scrambled at this point, but I'd laugh at that.

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What could have been…

I mean look at this! Can you honestly tell me this shitshow wouldn't be hillarious?!

Somewhere in an alternate dimension, the podcast ended after 3 episodes due to a spat over dividing super chat revenue.

I want that reality so bad!

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

DSP might as well be at level 0 or the tutorial level after taking that L from the Keem.

He's still stuck on the title screen, frantically looking for the start button.

 

[Ahffline]

If this podcast happened, it would be like the Monty Python skit about the four Yorkshiremen, except instead of one-upping each other on how hard they used to have it, they'd be one-upping about their trolls and claiming to be the biggest victim. Ugh.

 

[strandedcastaway]

I think those of us who've liked Keemstar smacking Phil around and watching Phil melt down about it are enjoying it because someone actually penetrated his shut-in world. The one thing Phil does is deny reality well. He'll never admit Champions, the bank leaks are real yet also fake, he pays the same bills five times a month at varying times. And through it all, the money still rolls in.

But this time Phil refusing $50,000, even if it was offered by an asshole, just showed Phil for the petty, weak liar he is. Even his dentheads seem to get that we're all rent-free in Phil's head, not the other way around. And my favorite part was that when Phil begged HEAVY based on his "morality" and "honor" and not taking that half-year's salary from Keem, the dentheads didn't donate shit. So Phil lost and also didn't get his fun money. That's why it's been fun.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I think those of us who've liked Keemstar smacking Phil around and watching Phil melt down about it are enjoying it because someone actually penetrated his shut-in world. The one thing Phil does is deny reality well. He'll never admit Champions, the bank leaks are real yet also fake, he pays the same bills five times a month at varying times. And through it all, the money still rolls in.

But this time Phil refusing $50,000, even if it was offered by an asshole, just showed Phil for the petty, weak liar he is. Even his dentheads seem to get that we're all rent-free in Phil's head, not the other way around. And my favorite part was that when Phil begged HEAVY based on his "morality" and "honor" and not taking that half-year's salary from Keem, the dentheads didn't donate shit. So Phil lost and also didn't get his fun money. That's why it's been fun.

There's definitely been some entertaining moments, but to me, it doesn't feel like Keem really did that much. That's why I was so dismissive of it initially, it looked weirdly desperate for Keem to keep trying to offer DSP 50k. In a perfect world, Keem would have put out the offer into the world and it'd be DSP sir'ing his way into Keem's DMs and begging for the money. Instead, Keem was the one constantly trying to get in touch with DSP. When he stopped doing that, we got some entertaining moments, and it did produce some good rants, namely the living rent free and level 1 comments.

But I also think it'd be more effective for Keem to just do a drama alert stream on Phil. If we're talking getting eyes on Phil, that would definitely do it. And there's no shortage of material to work with. It doesn't even have to be a deep dive, could just be the recent Reddit stuff. The nice thing about this is it'd be ongoing salt. Yeah, I imagine the Keem stuff will linger for a little, but it isn't anything compared to an actual ongoing feud. There's still a chance that happens, but Keem needs to do an actual video exposing DSP, not just highlighting that DSP didn't fall for his podcast scheme. Based on him accusing Phil of spending money on game skins, I'm not sure he even really gets DSP.

I also maintain the offer was too much to take seriously. I used it as an example before, but pushup dude worked because it was a reasonable amount to offer. Phil was baited into thinking he might get $100 or $200 or whatever for doing fake pushups, then he got mad when the guy rightly didn't pay. Based on Phil largely ignoring Keem I don't think he ever took the offer seriously so there were less ways to bait/manipulate him. Like, imagine if he promised to give Phil 1k if he went an entire stream without making a negative comment. I think Phil would genuinely try, fail within a few minutes, but keep trying to argue semantics and act like he was the victim.

I guess that's ultimately why I was so underwhelmed, I think if handled differently this had the potential to really shine a light on Phil and mess with him. But at the end of the day, it amounted to a few rants and some exposure to DSP, but only in the sense that people think he's some internet loser who turned down $50k. It's not nothing, but it also isn't a great representation of Phil and is probably the most lackluster response to the scenario of Phil actually landing on the radar of a big content creator.

 

[Pizza Parker's Pizza Time]

I think those of us who've liked Keemstar smacking Phil around and watching Phil melt down about it are enjoying it because someone actually penetrated his shut-in world. The one thing Phil does is deny reality well. He'll never admit Champions, the bank leaks are real yet also fake, he pays the same bills five times a month at varying times. And through it all, the money still rolls in.

This is the real reason why this isn't happening no matter how much money he's tempted with. His own paper mache ego will stop him. He isn't capable of surviving in a situation where people may mock and ridicule him and he'll have no choice but to take it. The last time we saw Phil in an environment where he wasn't the "supreme being" was this:

The moment someone called him ugly, he banned the person, which turned heads in the chat and even got the attention of the commentators who called for his de-modding. He is totally socially inept, as well as a coward. I can't imagine Keem giving him the level of absolute control he'd want over the chat and comments for these podcasts.

 

[Lei Wulong's Left Leg]

He's still stuck on the title screen, frantically looking for the start button.

Oh, that brings me back...

 

[Sicilian1984]

Has reviewtechusa ever talked about why he donates to phil? all his livestreams have pretty much been shitting on Phil? I guess the pignosis got to him, hard.

Rich is all about the drama. He would love to have DSP on his channel for a livestream or even interview

 

[Michael Janke]

speaking of phil's education, he's probably the most famous alumni of his high school.

 

[DeeTracktor]

speaking of phil's education, he's probably the most famous alumni of his high school.

He sure is

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