Supreme Court Watch

[Glowie]

There's so much baby killer salt on twitter that it's to the point it warrants it's own thread

 

[thegooddoctor]

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[Tour of Italy]

The executive could just pull an Andrew Jackson
"They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it".

This is a sentiment that keeps showing up in discussion about the recent rulings. While it’s true in broad strokes, it misses the real heart of the issue.

Defying the Supreme Court requires political capital, and the DNC has absolutely none, even for something as seemingly important as this.

Yeah the Biden DOJ can slow walk enforcement, the courts can slow walk cases under the recent trigger laws, but states will still enforce their own laws. With this ruling in particular, the initiative shifts to the executive; if Biden did jack shit to “enforce” this ruling and didn’t spend any political capital to intervene, then that’s pretty much exactly what the states want in the first place.

To openly and severely defy the court would literally fracture the nation. Most people who desperately wanted Roe to stay are still dimly aware of the fact that if you just ignore the court, then you’re removing a significant load-bearing element from the illusion of government as a whole. Even DNC leadership understand this, and while Pelosi’s “extremist court” rhetoric walks that dangerous line, they are least understand that at some point they’re going to want to use the court again in their favor, so my guess is that there’s only so far they’re willing to push it.

 

[Yankee Shogun]

Women acting like they’re Katniss Everdeen:

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Because alot of women are desperate to feel oppressed, either for fetishistic reasons for egotistical reasons. People who live half in delusion and fiction, half in twitter bullshit, will think the only way to bring meaning to their lives is to be hyper-engaged in politics and try to become a famous revolutionary.

Its why so many new movies have girlboss characters, to try and appeal to this demographic.

 

[SBG]

What's with the period tracking app one?

Some idiots came up with the idea that Roe relying on right to privacy means it falling results in the opposite where the government actively violates your right to privacy to protect pregnancies. The government of course doesn’t even want to get into the hassle of monitoring mail for abortion pills, but chuckle fucks think it’ll look into phone apps to spy on them.
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For example of the stupidity:


There is a sort of grain of truth in this though, in that states could theoretically look at text messages from people explicitly saying they got an abortion.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/abortion-clinics-providers-digital-privacy-roe-overturn-rcna30654

But in the handful of cases where state prosecutors have charged people with crimes related to abortion based on digital evidence, prosecutors have relied on more concrete evidence like search histories, text messages and emails, said Cynthia Conti-Cook, a tech fellow at the Ford Foundation and the author of an influential study on abortion-related prosecutions and digital surveillance.

Thing is I'm looking through the study they're talking about and not seeing what cases they're talking about where there was some attempt at looking through someone's messages to discover they were getting or got an abortion.

https://scholarworks.law.ubalt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2078&context=ublr

The study has some odd bits in it like this:

Some public welfare agencies have the ability to track a recipient’s purchasing data tracked by the Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) cards they provide for basic necessities.157 Some countries, states, and cities around the world have even expanded this to include biometric data collection as a condition of state welfare programs.158 Federal law enforcement agencies increasingly request warrants and subpoenas for cell phone and computer data during the course of an investigation before charging the accused with the relevant crime. 159 After a criminal prosecution has been initiated, a prosecutor may also ask the accused to sign a waiver allowing them to access their phone or request a warrant from the court.

Here they were trying to argue EBT cards having spending looked at is state surveillance of non-whites and then they bring up this story of California police asking people to sign a waver to let them look at their cell phones. In the story being cited by the study, it also says it's against the law for the police to just randomly search the phones, making it more than a bit stupid that it's used as evidence of the state's surveillance powers.

 

[RamblinRosie]

I don't understand how the liberal black community thinks they're going to rise up and overcome if they keep killing their babies.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

It always will be mindblowing to me how the leftist will downright celebrate the outright eugenics inspired mass murder of undesirables - particularly niggers of all shades - so long as it occurs inside the womb but when police officers or good, upstanding citizens who didn't do nothing wrong abort a fully grown nigger with 25 years of federal prison under their belt all of a sudden it's a problem

 

[Cybertonia]

Some idiots came up with the idea that Roe relying on right to privacy means it falling results in the opposite where the government actively violates your right to privacy to protect pregnancies. The government of course doesn’t even want to get into the hassle of monitoring mail for abortion pills, but chuckle fucks think it’ll look into phone apps to spy on them.

This has been the most ridiculous shit so far from all of this. I can't even trust the government not to spell my name wrong on my drivers license, but they're gonna accurately spy on petabytes of random app data? Sure, Jan

 

[Friendly Mudcrab]

George Takei, a Star Trek "vet*" as claimed by the media, calling Clarence Thomas, "a clown in blackface sitting on the supreme court".

I just love when these bug people who preached unconditional love and tolerance go "YOU FUCKING STUPID HOUSE NIGGER" the very moment some black isn't voting blue.

 

[The Ugly One]

The executive could just pull an Andrew Jackson
"They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it".

How exactly does the executive enforce abortion rights on the states? Is he going to send federal troops to Texas to shoot anyone who tries to arrest someone for breaking the heartbeat law?

 

[DumbDude42]

I don't understand how the liberal black community thinks they're going to rise up and overcome if they keep killing their babies.

they dont lol
liberal blacks basically have embraced their position as parasitic underclass, and seek to perpetuate and expand that lifestyle
'rise up and overcome' is what black nationalists and segregationists stood for, but they lost and were relegated to the irrelevant political fringe

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I just love when these bug people who preached unconditional love and tolerance go "YOU FUCKING STUPID HOUSE NIGGER" the very moment some black isn't voting blue.

Oh, the resentment for black people who leave the Dem plantation has always been there....it's just that with such a high-profile case, thus is probably the 1st time the mask has fallen off on such a wide scale.

 

[SBG]

How exactly does the executive enforce abortion rights on the states? Is he going to send federal troops to Texas to shoot anyone who tries to arrest someone for breaking the heartbeat law?

Been a few things I've seen argued.

• Doing abortions on army bases (which would run into trouble with Hyde amendment)
• Transporting preggos to abortion states
• Doing abortions on federal land (because state laws don't count on federal land?)
• Federal government mailing people abortion pills (Hyde)

The transportation thing seems most doable for them since they could just put up a website featuring links to a charity that would provide bus fare to an abortion state. They can then pat themselves on the back that they're getting around the abortion laws without spending money or really violating the law. While it may sound retarded, it'd just take some political commentators like Jon Oliver or Jon Stewart praising it to get Dems to feel they and the DNC were fighting against The Man or whatever.

 

[Dr. Henry Armitage]

I like how despite the fact that these people argue that they're not pro-abortion, but instead pro-choice, they go out of their way to make life infinitely fucking harder for the women who choose to keep their crisis pregnancies and the people who devote their lives to helping them. I know multiple women who are heavily involved in crisis pregnancy centers and I can guarantee you that that last person is lying through their fucking teeth. The pro-life crisis pregnancy centers make it extremely clear that they will not provide abortions, and they offer many different OBGYN services and prenatal care, oftentimes completely free of charge. They provide these desperate mothers with free childcare classes, nursery furniture, clothing, diapers, formula- you name something that a baby desperately needs to thrive, they've got it. They get these mothers in contact with counselors, housing, legal services, job opprotunities, childcare, and more, so that way if she's struggling she can get back on her feet ASAP to give her baby, herself, and any other children she may have the best life that she possibly can. These centers legitimately save lives- both mom and baby.

They are fucking saints for what they do and do infinitely more for mothers in crisis than pro-aborts will ever do. To waste their time and resources and prevent a real mother in need from getting care (since they took a time slot that could have been used by an actual mother) is nothing short of genuine malevolence and evil.

I mean sure they provide much needed services to mothers and children. But you forget one very important thing, Christianity bad *tips fedora*.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Women acting like they’re Katniss Everdeen:

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I like these because it reminds me of all the cringy shit i did in my youth but then realize i could have been allot worse and not feel as bad.

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

Correction. The bureaucratic state has all the power.

I recommend that everyone read The Failure Factory. It's a very succinct book about how the bureaucratic state operates outside the will of elected officials and on top of that is under no pressure to course correct for any failure. So they never do. They never have to reevaluate their positions nor are they punished for directly and overtly undermining policy decisions by publicly elected offices.

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Was this the book that Null has recently recommended? I think I've heard him mention it on a MATI episode or in a post somewhere on the site.

 

[AnonymousKot]

I don't understand how the liberal black community thinks they're going to rise up and overcome if they keep killing their babies.

i hope they keep aborting their kids, they make up 13% of the population but commit half the crimes, it'd be worse if they pump out more criminals

 

[TJT]

Was this the book that Null has recently recommended? I think I've heard him mention it on a MATI episode or in a post somewhere on the site.

Not sure. I read it several years ago as a recommendation from someone I know.

The idiotic partisans in this thread immediately discard it as "propaganda" because it happened to be written by someone in the 2000-2008 Bush administration. In reality, the formation of the "Deep State" or rather simply the career bureaucrats who cannot be removed from office by elected officials and thus have no fear of defying policies by their elected leadership. This started way back with the Hatch Act of 1939. But got exposed to normies with Trump. In 2022 the President is only allowed to fire and hire positions listed in the Plum Book. As you may remember Trump tried to fire federal employees of the executive branch who were both openly and brazenly subverting all of his directives and then bragging about doing so on Twitter.

When Trump tried to get them fired they sued the federal government for breach of federal employee union rules and remained in their positions.

I think we can all agree that public employees should not be able to do this.

 

[Stoneheart]

So soon we will get the EPA decision. what are the numbers? will thy strike down the EPA?

 

[updoot farmer]

So soon we will get the EPA decision. what are the numbers? will thy strike down the EPA?

Chill out and learn some english, decisions start getting released in two minutes.