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 If she shuts up and doesn't bring up the topic again, barely anyone will care in a month. Or probably even a week. Feel free to quote this in a month if I'm wrong. SJW cancel efforts typically have very little impact on vtubers, hence why that one account trying to cancel Holos and Nijis for being lolicons/shotacons/various other offenses went nowhere
Stuff like this depends on whether some people actually just straight up left or just stuck around being mad. Finana isn't exactly one of the Livers that can afford a viewership hit since she was already slow when it came to growth in the first place.
 
I have really bad feeling about the Finana situation. Fish graduation coming?

If anything Feesh will be even more cuddled by the community because she's now been bullied to tears by right wing incels and haters
Ultimately, this really isn't a big deal, if she can ignore the haters. Corpo definitely won't be the ones graduating her.
Graduating someone for something like this? Nah, not even Anycolor is that dumb. Most likely just a hiatus like the nippleboy
I didn't make my point properly. I'm not worried about the corporation, because, from that point of view, the situation really isn't worth the attention. I'm worried about Finana herself.
 
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I have really bad feeling about the Finana situation. Fish graduation coming?
Depends on how much she can handle the ridicule she is gonna get for this. She just painted a target on herself for both sides to use, unfortunately.

Ultimately, this really isn't a big deal, if she can ignore the haters. Corpo definitely won't be the ones graduating her.
 
I have really bad feeling about the Finana situation. Fish graduation coming?
Graduating someone for something like this? Nah, not even Anycolor is that dumb. Most likely just a hiatus like the nippleboy

If anything Feesh will be even more cuddled by the community because she's now been bullied to tears by right wing incels and haters
The usual crowd is already blaming the "incels" and "hololive incels" on twitter for Finana changing her tune so suddenly
 
On a side note

Finana backtracking stream lol
She should tweet something like this again but for trans.
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On a side note

Finana backtracking stream lol
I have nothing nothing really new to add since there is everything said already. It's a dumb move to paddle back within 24 h and will probably piss of the people she wanted to "protect". But I think this is worth an onsite archive:
 
Every time something happens, I am reminded of how Sasaki dealt with antis: Make a cover song about all the schizo rrats people made about you and make one of your kouhai (Belmond) famous in the process.

Can't wait for a song about how Yumenographia got cut because it was totally connected to the Kabukicho red light district and the yakuza, or how Kronii is definitely a cult member. Source: bro trust me, my schizo dream told me

It definitely feels like there's a disproportionate amount of knowledge between companies due to Holo being more popular in the west; when people talk about things like Cover's logistics (that whole studio situation), that quickly gets addressed because more people are in the know-how. When it comes to Niji though, a lot of people don't have the time or will to look up more about them, then read /vt/ and copy-paste any rrats that seem like they'll pull Kiwi karma (ex. the whole "Rosemi lost half her members" even though there is seemingly nothing to back that up), which then gets propagated through the thread like a live demonstration of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Don't get me wrong, nobody can or will force you at gunpoint to watch or like other teams just because they exist, but can we just agree that misinformation on a website all about controversial information isn't all that good, and /vt/ should never be trusted as a source?

My guy was found shitting up the Niji Discords about it at the exact same time he was rambling here lol. Containment cannot bind him.
Oh hey, there he is.
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@Nolan Crush My man, I get that it's probably too late for you to be able to change your name here, but it takes literally less than a minute to do so on Discord.
 
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Stuff like this depends on whether some people actually just straight up left or just stuck around being mad. Finana isn't exactly one of the Livers that can afford a viewership hit since she was already slow when it came to growth in the first place.
unless that dropoff is monumental (which let's be real it's not going to be) she can totally afford it in every way that actually tangibly matters.

Her income is enough that she can do Vtubing as her solo gig and live more than comfortably where she's at, her growth could entirely stop today and she'd still be ultimately fine. I don't follow numberfagging trends enough to know exactly where her growth is at compared to her peers but just in general even assuming she's the worst of all NijiEN (which again I don't know if she is or not) being the "least successful" in a group of successful individuals is still success.

And well let's also be real the SJW types that might come at her now for walking back the ban are far less likely to be a factor in her income and what she can afford than the alternative. The whole ordeal is just stupid but the only real danger she's up against is going to be if she mentally cracks.
 
You know there might be some silver lining to this. Kiara who likely has the most liberal mindset in HoloEN could hold classes for NijiEN about how not to get shitcanned by your Japanese employers. I think Niji and Cover would actually agree to this sort of collab.
 
So uh, does she not get that now the SJWs are gonna turn on her? Does she not realize that, in the eyes of those people, you can't change your mind, you're either 100% with or against them? That, to them, this is a backstab on the crucial human rights issue of tranny representation in online discussion? Does she not realize that, after her whole "wah wah I freeze up when I hear the word, it's terrible" big cry, completely backtracking within a day makes her look like she doesn't believe in anything she says? She's made her bed, gotten fucked in it, and now it's too late to get un-fucked.
Nah, the narrative from the Twitter mob seems to be that Finana was bullied by "incels" and forced to apologize.

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