Why is being a woman pedo OK if the pedo is hot?

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Boys are much more mature than girls of equal age, so a 13 year old boy is as mentally mature as a 17 year old girl and vice versa. I'm pretty sure it's something like that.

 

[Getting tard comed]

First, read my initial post. An age of consent of 16 is acceptable to me. 14-16 is sort of a gray area. 14 is really on the line and probably too young. But in Germany and other.European countries the age of consent is 14 for some sensible reasons.

As a policy consideration, I object to age of consent higher than 16, and I do think it is madness when people clutch their pearls about some 16 to a day under 18 willingly having sexual relations with a woman who is older, absent a showing of coercion or really egregious age difference (mid 40s and higher.


Even so you—and others—seem to conflate statutory rape with child molestation. These are simply not the same things. In the states, child molestation is strict liability re Mens Rea (mistake of age not a defense) whereas in some but not all jurisdictions if some 15 yo who looks 18 or age of consent says she is that age and the accused believes her, it can be a defense. Child molestation also carries much stiffer penalties, and that rightly so because it is a fundamentally different and far more egregious crime.

You and others call me a pedo, which is offensive and unfair to me as you people seem to not understand or care that the word pertains to sexual activity or attraction to prepubescent children, which I have not defended or excused in the slightest.

Did you check out that story re former teacher Baylee Turner? She was 23 he was 17. She lost her teaching job and license, prosecutor was coming after he until they married and spousal privilege put an end to that. Criminalizing relations between a 17 and 20 something, absent showing of lack of consent is puritanical lunacy at its worst.

Not a pedo. A pedo apologist. Still, very weird. A 45 year old sleeping with a 14 year old is child molestation. A 14 year old is a child. You defending it is weird AF and kinda creepy. The wall is calling.

Boys are much more mature than girls of equal age, so a 13 year old boy is as mentally mature as a 17 year old girl and vice versa. I'm pretty sure it's something like that.

The exact opposite. Which makes people who sleep with young boys even worse.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

The exact opposite.

That makes no sense. Statistics shows that boys are much better than girls at traditional adult oriented skills.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Not a pedo. A pedo apologist. Still, very weird.

No, pedophilia pertains to sexual attraction or activity to PREPUBESCENT children. Do you not understand the difference? If you cannot acknowledge this fundamental distinction, there is no point in discussing this further and Will place you on ignore.

A 45 year old sleeping with a 14 year old is child molestation. A 14 year old is a child.

A 14 year old is an adolescent minor. An adult having sexual activity with a 14 is statutory rape in jurisdictions where age of consent is higher. No Matter how much you insist it is chikd molestation, it is not.

Another problem you and others have is that my comments do not equate with endorsement or excusi g if such actions.. As I stated, I am ambivalent about age of consent at 14-15 (as it is in most of Europe), but balk at any age of consent higher than 16. But just because someone does not think something should be criminal does not necessarily mean endorsement. I abhore infidelity I marriage but at the same time do not believe infidelity should face criminal sanctions.

 

[X Prime]

A near-literal it's not pedophilia it's ephebophilia argument.

Why do apologists go for those every single time?

Though this is spicier than usual due to the petulant threat to put someone on ignore, oh no the horror.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

No, pedophilia pertains to sexual attraction or activity to PREPUBESCENT children. Do you not understand the difference? If you cannot acknowledge this fundamental distinction, there is no point in discussing this further and Will place you on ignore.



A 14 year old is an adolescent minor. An adult having sexual activity with a 14 is statutory rape in jurisdictions where age of consent is higher. No Matter how much you insist it is chikd molestation, it is not.

Another problem you and others have is that my comments do not equate with endorsement or excusi g if such actions.. As I stated, I am ambivalent about age of consent at 14-15 (as it is in most of Europe), but balk at any age of consent higher than 16. But just because someone does not think something should be criminal does not necessarily mean endorsement. I abhore infidelity I marriage but at the same time do not believe infidelity should face criminal sanctions.

The technicalities don't really matter, the distinctions you're making do exist but that doesn't make them okay.

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

No, pedophilia pertains to sexual attraction or activity to PREPUBESCENT children. Do you not understand the difference? If you cannot acknowledge this fundamental distinction, there is no point in discussing this further and Will place you on ignore.



A 14 year old is an adolescent minor. An adult having sexual activity with a 14 is statutory rape in jurisdictions where age of consent is higher. No Matter how much you insist it is chikd molestation, it is not.

Nobody cares and the distinction is so arbitrary to be pointless because in effect the damage is the same while the sentiment remains that an adult who should know better is taking advantage of a minor whose emotional/intellectual faculty is still under development and will be for many more years. Five years means more to an adolescent than it does to a fully formed adult male. The period of 12 - 17 is more significant to a teenager than it would be when he is adult 25 - 30.

Stop making such insistence that the other poster must be nuanced in addressing your perspective while you'll not the do the same for them.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

Nobody cares and the distinction is so arbitrary to be pointless because in effect the damage is the same while the sentiment remains that an adult who should know better is taking advantage of a minor whose emotional/intellectual faculty is still under development and will be for many more years. Five years means more to an adolescent than it does to a fully formed adult male. The period of 12 - 17 is more significant to a teenager than it would be when he is adult 25 - 30.

Stop making such insistence that the other poster must be nuanced in addressing your perspective while you'll not the do the same for them.

Nothing could be less arbitrary than a child before puberty versus an adolescent post puberty. Are you really that daft?
I will attach a map of European age of consent laws. About half have it at 14. The United Kingdom is 16. Only Ireland is higher at 17. This is a vestige of America's puritanical legacy, combined with conflicted feelings about being an absolute cesspit where everything else is permitted.

 

[X Prime]

Imagine citing modern Western Europe as an example of anything but a prime candidate for a nuclear Holocaust.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

The technicalities don't really matter, the distinctions you're making do exist but that doesn't make them okay.

They are not mere technicalities, but the basis of a profound, fundamental distinction, and it is the difference btwn the guy who was diddled at 7 that someone else related (truly abhorrent) and some woman 18+ fucking anl sophomore in high school. You do acknowledge the distinction between child molestation on one hand and statutory rape on the other, do you not? The differences in penalties is severe, and that for a very good reason.

 

[X Prime]

OK let's get to the real action in this thread.

Who wants to take bets that tiger boy here will at some point in the future defend lolicon?

For bonus points, predict the size in gigabytes of their very extensive collection.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

OK let's get to the real action in this thread.

Who wants to take bets that tiger boy here will at some point in the future defend lolicon?

For bonus points, predict the size in gigabytes of their very extensive collection.

You are incapable of engaging the actual merits so you resort to stupid insults.

 

[X Prime]

I point out to all prospective bettors that they didn't deny the implication.

 

[Estolysis]

No, pedophilia pertains to sexual attraction or activity to PREPUBESCENT children. Do you not understand the difference? If you cannot acknowledge this fundamental distinction, there is no point in discussing this further and Will place you on ignore.

Alright pedophile, so you're saying you only want to fuck post-pubescent kids?

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

They are not mere technicalities, but the basis of a profound, fundamental distinction, and it is the difference btwn the guy who was diddled at 7 that someone else related (truly abhorrent) and some woman 18+ fucking anl sophomore in high school. You do acknowledge the distinction between child molestation on one hand and statutory rape on the other, do you not? The differences in penalties is severe, and that for a very good reason.

I already acknowledged that distinction, but one being worse doesn't make the other okay, as I said.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

I already acknowledged that distinction, but one being worse doesn't make the other okay, as I said.

I never said any of this is ok--well the case of Baylee Turner I did and do. That does not move my moral barometer one bit. Monogamous relationship that turned to marriage.
Just because one does not endorse criminal sanctions does not equate to moral endorsement.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

Because women absolutely refuse to be bound to any sort of morality and the vast majority of men, by virtue of being degenerate simps, allow them to mostly get away with it.

 

[Getting tard comed]

That makes no sense. Statistics shows that boys are much better than girls at traditional adult oriented skills.

I'm sure but how much of that has to do with women not being very good at traditional adult oriented skills in the first place?

I'll grant you that boys are better at adult skills than girls are at a similar age. I still maintain girls are more mature in terms or relationships and the opposite sex than boys are of similar age due to them being forced to via menstruation + earlier attention from grown men in a sexual way.

No, pedophilia pertains to sexual attraction or activity to PREPUBESCENT children. Do you not understand the difference? If you cannot acknowledge this fundamental distinction, there is no point in discussing this further and Will place you on ignore.

Please do.

A 14 year old is an adolescent minor. An adult having sexual activity with a 14 is statutory rape in jurisdictions where age of consent is higher. No Matter how much you insist it is chikd molestation, it is not.

I hope you understand why you were rated autistic.

Another problem you and others have is that my comments do not equate with endorsement or excusi g if such actions.. As I stated, I am ambivalent about age of consent at 14-15 (as it is in most of Europe), but balk at any age of consent higher than 16. But just because someone does not think something should be criminal does not necessarily mean endorsement. I abhore infidelity I marriage but at the same time do not believe infidelity should face criminal sanctions.

1) I should hit you with the dumb response you gave me in the Supreme Court thread.
"I see no qualifiers such as "the screeching protestors seem to think" or "the other side posits.". If the statement above, which you did write, is not your position, please clarify....."
which isn't even a good comparison because in that thread, if you read it you'd know I had expressed multiple times my position wasn't the one I was arguing for in that instance where as here you are making the autistic argument that since fucking a 14 year old isn't technically pedophilia in the medical sense people shouldn't use it. Completely ignoring the common parlance on the internet in general and this site specifically that pedophilia encompasses anyone sleeping with a minor.


I'm not sure why you think on kiwi farms of all places that the posters here aren't aware of the medical distinctions between pedophilia ephebophilia, and even nepiophilia. You aren't the first smart boy on this site to make the argument and you won't be the last. I don't know why you would think you would be. Everyone on the site is aware and doesn't care. If you sleep with a kid under 16 and you are baove the age of 25 you're a pedo and deserve the wall. That's the sane, normal response to that situation. And luckily that's the majority response to that here on the farms.

Citing the medical distinction between 10, 14, and 16 makes you the odd one out and that's the sort of thing pedo apologists who turn in to pedos do on this site. I got a feeling that lolicon thing is true.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I'm sure but how much of that has to do with women not being very good at traditional adult oriented skills in the first place?

I'll grant you that boys are better at adult skills than girls are at a similar age. I still maintain girls are more mature in terms or relationships and the opposite sex than boys are of similar age due to them being forced to via menstruation + earlier attention from grown men in a sexual way.

See? You are yourself infantilizing girls while saying boys are more mature and can take the burden of adult skills, tasks and occupations as they have always done traditionally. Don't suck a dick, pederast // With kind regards SSH

 

[SPhobos]

if you werent hit on by lonely wives while playing mmos you missed out