OK let's get to the real action in this thread.
Who wants to take bets that tiger boy here will at some point in the future defend lolicon?
For bonus points, predict the size in gigabytes of their very extensive collection.
Somebody who uses "their" in third person singular. Your opinion should definitely be discounted on all matters.
Do you consider Western people not being able to have sexual relations with 14-year olds to be the downfall of Western society? This is a genuine question.
Hello, I am not sure why you are asking me this. I am sorry there is unnecessary confusion in what I have written. The answer is if of course an emphatic no. Please see the salient passages directly below where I express great ambivalence about an age of consent 14-15. I am also responding to one of my detractors further below, which hopefully will also provide some clarifcation. It is really pretty simple--the meaning of words matter, biology also matters. A prepubscent boy, say seven or ten years old, is simply not the same thing as a sophmore or junion in high school. And yet this is a distinction I see all the people callign me names or leaving me negative stickers refuse to make. The former is a child. The latter is typcially, perhaps usually sexually active, for better or worse. Equivocating a woman 18+ having relations in that age range with child molestation is intellectualy sloppy, to put it mildly, and it also ignores important distinctions that hold true even in the US where age of consent laws are markedly higher than Great Britain, the originator of our common law, or much of Europe.
I hope by emphasizing the passages below that any confusion or misunderstanding will be cleared up.
Another problem you and others have is that my comments do not equate with endorsement or excusi g if such actions.. As I stated, I am ambivalent about age of consent at 14-15 (as it is in most of Europe), but balk at any age of consent higher than 16. But just because someone does not think something should be criminal does not necessarily mean endorsement. I abhore infidelity I marriage but at the same time do not believe infidelity should face criminal sanctions.
First, read my initial post. An age of consent of 16 is acceptable to me. 14-15 is sort of a gray area. 14 is really on the line and probably too young. But in Germany and other.European countries the age of consent is 14 for some sensible reasons.
As a policy consideration, I object to age of consent higher than 16, and I do think it is madness when people clutch their pearls about some 16 to a day under 18 willingly having sexual relations with a woman who is older, absent a showing of coercion or really egregious age difference (mid 40s and higher.
Elsewhere I suggested a good approach would be to shift freshman back in junior high school and simply make age of conset when someone enters as a sophmore (later part of 15 for most). We all know sophmores and even freshman dated juniors and seniors and high school and there are all sorts of cases where a bf a parent disapporves of and they have sex before his 18th and before she is 16 or 17 or whatever and then the day of his 18th the dad calls the cops. One guy in Illinois went to jail for that. When he was released, he married her, and has to go to the police station as part of the sex registry for having sex with the woman who would be his future wife and is now her current wife. Madness. Ditto with the Baylee Turner story, which I hope you looked at.
I'm sure but how much of that has to do with women not being very good at traditional adult oriented skills in the first place?
I'll grant you that boys are better at adult skills than girls are at a similar age. I still maintain girls are more mature in terms or relationships and the opposite sex than boys are of similar age due to them being forced to via menstruation + earlier attention from grown men in a sexual way.
Please do.
I hope you understand why you were rated autistic.
1) I should hit you with the dumb response you gave me in the Supreme Court thread.
"I see no qualifiers such as "the screeching protestors seem to think" or "the other side posits.". If the statement above, which you did write, is not your position, please clarify....."
which isn't even a good comparison because in that thread, if you read it you'd know I had expressed multiple times my position wasn't the one I was arguing for in that instance where as here you are making the autistic argument that since fucking a 14 year old isn't technically pedophilia in the medical sense people shouldn't use it. Completely ignoring the common parlance on the internet in general and this site specifically that pedophilia encompasses anyone sleeping with a minor.
It is not autistic, it is very truly the distinction that changes sexual relations from child molestation to statutory rape, or in jurisdictions where age of consent is 14, such as about half of europe, is fully exculpatory., or changing the facts to a 16 to 17 yo, fully exculpatory I don't care to look it up nor in the future but it is important to note that age of consent laws have been revised fiarly recently in this country, mostly at the behest of feminist influence.
I am sensing--and please correct me if I am wring--that you think 16 should also be criminalized Well in less half the states the age of consent is 16, so in an example where a young lad is sixteen and the woman is 18, what you call an autistic difference would then be the difference between a perfect defense against criminal prosecution and not. This is of course tied to biological reality. As I wrote above, a ten year old boy is not the same as a sophmore, junior in high school. This is so obvious I do not understand why it has to be stated, but so often, like the Baylee Turner case, people "moral fag" to use slang from 4chan with cries of her being a pedo. The guy was a 17 yo senior in high school, she was 23. And they married.
I'm not sure why you think on kiwi farms of all places that the posters here aren't aware of the medical distinctions between pedophilia ephebophilia, and even nepiophilia. You aren't the first smart boy on this site to make the argument and you won't be the last. I don't know why you would think you would be.
It certainly does not seem to be acknowledged here, does it?
Everyone on the site is aware and doesn't care. If you sleep with a kid under 16 and you are baove the age of 25 you're a pedo and deserve the wall. That's the sane, normal response to that situation. And luckily that's the majority response to that here on the farms.
What if the minor is a week before his 16 th and the older party (lets keep with the younger man older woman scenario) turned 25 that day? The wall, really?
Citing the medical distinction between 10, 14, and 16 makes you the odd one out and that's the sort of thing pedo apologists who turn in to pedos do on this site. I got a feeling that lolicon thing is true.
Since we have only just become acquainted, know that I am implacable. I don't care if I am the odd one out, whether it is on issues of race or this, or whatever it is. I care about being right, I care what about what is intellectually lazy, and what is intellectually and morally astute.
Here is a video by Devon Stack about the importance of people speaking out. It always just takes one.