Why is being a woman pedo OK if the pedo is hot?

A 14 year old is an adolescent minor. An adult having sexual activity with a 14 is statutory rape in jurisdictions where age of consent is higher. No Matter how much you insist it is chikd molestation, it is not.

Another problem you and others have is that my comments do not equate with endorsement or excusi g if such actions.. As I stated, I am ambivalent about age of consent at 14-15 (as it is in most of Europe), but balk at any age of consent higher than 16. But just because someone does not think something should be criminal does not necessarily mean endorsement. I abhore infidelity I marriage but at the same time do not believe infidelity should face criminal sanctions.
Do you consider Western people not being able to have sexual relations with 14-year olds to be the downfall of Western society? This is a genuine question.
 
Well, more what I want is an explanation from your fellow males as to why if a hot woman rapes a child that is cool and they wish they had had the opportunity. Not that I approve of an adult female raping an underage male at all.

And if is the case you knock her up and she keeps it and you have to pay, why are you mad, I mean if she was hot or whatever?
Because its the revolutionary vanguard for the people in the profession of psychology who want to normalize pedophilia (in general)
 
OK let's get to the real action in this thread.

Who wants to take bets that tiger boy here will at some point in the future defend lolicon?

For bonus points, predict the size in gigabytes of their very extensive collection.
Somebody who uses "their" in third person singular. Your opinion should definitely be discounted on all matters.
Do you consider Western people not being able to have sexual relations with 14-year olds to be the downfall of Western society? This is a genuine question.
Hello, I am not sure why you are asking me this. I am sorry there is unnecessary confusion in what I have written. The answer is if of course an emphatic no. Please see the salient passages directly below where I express great ambivalence about an age of consent 14-15. I am also responding to one of my detractors further below, which hopefully will also provide some clarifcation. It is really pretty simple--the meaning of words matter, biology also matters. A prepubscent boy, say seven or ten years old, is simply not the same thing as a sophmore or junion in high school. And yet this is a distinction I see all the people callign me names or leaving me negative stickers refuse to make. The former is a child. The latter is typcially, perhaps usually sexually active, for better or worse. Equivocating a woman 18+ having relations in that age range with child molestation is intellectualy sloppy, to put it mildly, and it also ignores important distinctions that hold true even in the US where age of consent laws are markedly higher than Great Britain, the originator of our common law, or much of Europe.
I hope by emphasizing the passages below that any confusion or misunderstanding will be cleared up.
Another problem you and others have is that my comments do not equate with endorsement or excusi g if such actions.. As I stated, I am ambivalent about age of consent at 14-15 (as it is in most of Europe), but balk at any age of consent higher than 16. But just because someone does not think something should be criminal does not necessarily mean endorsement. I abhore infidelity I marriage but at the same time do not believe infidelity should face criminal sanctions.

First, read my initial post. An age of consent of 16 is acceptable to me. 14-15 is sort of a gray area. 14 is really on the line and probably too young. But in Germany and other.European countries the age of consent is 14 for some sensible reasons.

As a policy consideration, I object to age of consent higher than 16, and I do think it is madness when people clutch their pearls about some 16 to a day under 18 willingly having sexual relations with a woman who is older, absent a showing of coercion or really egregious age difference (mid 40s and higher.
Elsewhere I suggested a good approach would be to shift freshman back in junior high school and simply make age of conset when someone enters as a sophmore (later part of 15 for most). We all know sophmores and even freshman dated juniors and seniors and high school and there are all sorts of cases where a bf a parent disapporves of and they have sex before his 18th and before she is 16 or 17 or whatever and then the day of his 18th the dad calls the cops. One guy in Illinois went to jail for that. When he was released, he married her, and has to go to the police station as part of the sex registry for having sex with the woman who would be his future wife and is now her current wife. Madness. Ditto with the Baylee Turner story, which I hope you looked at.
I'm sure but how much of that has to do with women not being very good at traditional adult oriented skills in the first place?

I'll grant you that boys are better at adult skills than girls are at a similar age. I still maintain girls are more mature in terms or relationships and the opposite sex than boys are of similar age due to them being forced to via menstruation + earlier attention from grown men in a sexual way.

Please do.

I hope you understand why you were rated autistic.

1) I should hit you with the dumb response you gave me in the Supreme Court thread.
"I see no qualifiers such as "the screeching protestors seem to think" or "the other side posits.". If the statement above, which you did write, is not your position, please clarify....."
which isn't even a good comparison because in that thread, if you read it you'd know I had expressed multiple times my position wasn't the one I was arguing for in that instance where as here you are making the autistic argument that since fucking a 14 year old isn't technically pedophilia in the medical sense people shouldn't use it. Completely ignoring the common parlance on the internet in general and this site specifically that pedophilia encompasses anyone sleeping with a minor.
It is not autistic, it is very truly the distinction that changes sexual relations from child molestation to statutory rape, or in jurisdictions where age of consent is 14, such as about half of europe, is fully exculpatory., or changing the facts to a 16 to 17 yo, fully exculpatory I don't care to look it up nor in the future but it is important to note that age of consent laws have been revised fiarly recently in this country, mostly at the behest of feminist influence.
I am sensing--and please correct me if I am wring--that you think 16 should also be criminalized Well in less half the states the age of consent is 16, so in an example where a young lad is sixteen and the woman is 18, what you call an autistic difference would then be the difference between a perfect defense against criminal prosecution and not. This is of course tied to biological reality. As I wrote above, a ten year old boy is not the same as a sophmore, junior in high school. This is so obvious I do not understand why it has to be stated, but so often, like the Baylee Turner case, people "moral fag" to use slang from 4chan with cries of her being a pedo. The guy was a 17 yo senior in high school, she was 23. And they married.
I'm not sure why you think on kiwi farms of all places that the posters here aren't aware of the medical distinctions between pedophilia ephebophilia, and even nepiophilia. You aren't the first smart boy on this site to make the argument and you won't be the last. I don't know why you would think you would be.

It certainly does not seem to be acknowledged here, does it?
Everyone on the site is aware and doesn't care. If you sleep with a kid under 16 and you are baove the age of 25 you're a pedo and deserve the wall. That's the sane, normal response to that situation. And luckily that's the majority response to that here on the farms.
What if the minor is a week before his 16 th and the older party (lets keep with the younger man older woman scenario) turned 25 that day? The wall, really?
Citing the medical distinction between 10, 14, and 16 makes you the odd one out and that's the sort of thing pedo apologists who turn in to pedos do on this site. I got a feeling that lolicon thing is true.
Since we have only just become acquainted, know that I am implacable. I don't care if I am the odd one out, whether it is on issues of race or this, or whatever it is. I care about being right, I care what about what is intellectually lazy, and what is intellectually and morally astute.
Here is a video by Devon Stack about the importance of people speaking out. It always just takes one.

 
I never said any of this is ok--well the case of Baylee Turner I did and do. That does not move my moral barometer one bit. Monogamous relationship that turned to marriage.
Just because one does not endorse criminal sanctions does not equate to moral endorsement.
I'm not familiar with that case, I'll have to look into it. Anyway, I just think our age of consent laws are satisfactory as they are.

I'm not sure why you think on kiwi farms of all places that the posters here aren't aware of the medical distinctions between pedophilia ephebophilia, and even nepiophilia.
Never heard that one, actually.
 
I'm not familiar with that case, I'll have to look into it. Anyway, I just think our age of consent laws are satisfactory as they are.


Never heard that one, actually.
A plurality of states are 16, which is acceptable. Others are 17 which is too high. The number of states at 18 was somethingike seven but has doubled very recently. That is unreasonable and contrary to reality..Then again, this stupid country has a drinking age of 21
Let me know what you think for tht Baylee Turner case. I provided I link but should be easy to find.
 
Men can't get pregnant and because of that there's a societal viewpoint that when men get raped/molested or whatever that it's not as a big a deal as when a woman does. It's bullshit but what societal viewpoint ISN'T bullshit in clown world.
It's not even just a societal thing, it's a deep instinctual thing.

This never gets brought up in any male rape victim discussion, for male teens or adults. But the simple fact is regardless of modern sensibilities if we look at things from a purely evolutionary reproductive standpoint rape is WAY WAY WAY worse when it happens to women, at least it used to be.

Our instincts don't know about birth control, abortion, child support, etc. Our instincts evolved in a world where
  • Child birth is often life threatening for women
  • Resources are scarce and popping out another child is a major resource commitment
  • The women will likely be on her own, the rapist cannot be forced to give aid
  • Child mortality is high, each child she is having that is not from a desirable mate is a loss of opportunity to have child of her choosing reach adulthood
On the other hand, we evolved in an environment where if a woman raped a man it was a straight up benefit for him. Imagine a hot woman getting pregnant and then fucking off to raise your kid on her own. You just had a kid with a desirable mate at zero cost to yourself. That's fucking awesome, that's the best damn trade deal in history. Like a dream come true. And that's why we don't take male rape that seriously, because all our philosophical and moral bullshit is just that. We are still just dumb monkeys running off caveman era instincts, we try really fucking hard to pretend we're not but we are just dumb fucking animals playing dress up.

Male rape being treated lightly is just another instance of many of our instincts not jiving well with modern society.
 
A plurality of states are 16, which is acceptable. Others are 17 which is too high. The number of states at 18 was somethingike seven but has doubled very recently. That is unreasonable and contrary to reality..Then again, this stupid country has a drinking age of 21
Let me know what you think for tht Baylee Turner case. I provided I link but should be easy to find.
Laws change, times and sensitivities change and evolve. 18 is not "unreasonable".

Seeing as you also oppose 21 being the age limit for alcohol, do you think that about everything? You think someone 16 should be able to run for president? We have all kinds of age restrictions, they don't harm anybody. If anything some should be bumped up, I don't think teenagers should be driving (it's a fact they have more accidents than adults do).
 
Laws change, times and sensitivities change and evolve. 18 is not "unreasonable".
But are they changing for the better? No, not in this instance. Again, age of consent at 18 puts the US along with places like Iran.
It is also antithetical to human biology and actual social mores. Teenagers are sexually active. It is absurd and puritanical to treat a 17 year old as a child. A minor is not the same thing as a child. When someone calls a sophomore or junior high school a child, I think of Anthony Michael Hall's character telling the rebel kid about physics club, and all the "children" get together for a Christmas banquet.


Seeing as you also oppose 21 being the age limit for alcohol, do you think that about everything? You think someone 16 should be able to run for president?
Age restrictions on president have nothing to do with drinking age at 21. On that, you do realize that high school kids do and will drink. Laws contrary to that are like laws trying to prevent the sky from being blue. There much evidence thtat the binge drinking phenomenon that exists in the US is because of this puritanical nonsense.
We have all kinds of age restrictions, they don't harm anybody. If anything some should be bumped up.
They do harm people when they needlessly ensnare people into legal trouble and even criminal convictions for natural relationships that WILL happen. 18 year old seniors do "date" or "fuck" under classmen. And sorry I seel little distinction between that, covered by some romeo and juliet laws, and instances like Baylee Turner who was 23 and her future a 17 yo senior in high school. Sometimes this in the guise of hyper promiscuity that we both disapprove of, other times in the guise of committed loving relationships that even end in marriage. Did you read that case re Baylee Turner?

Another comment of mine that seems to be overlooked is that the thing I find most objectionable about these teacher sex scandals is that a lot of the time women are married. No one seems to talk about that, and yet I find that the most objectionable thing of all in many of these cases. As I stated before though it all depends on the exact age and circumstance. A 16 year old sophomore or junior who is not coerced is wildly different than a 13-14 who is coerced.

In relation to that 40 something woman that who boinked a 14 year old and I received a lot of negative stickers,
I want to reiterate that while it is not--by definition--pedophilia, it is rather sleazy. But no at 14, absent a showing that it is coerced oand that it was not voluntary, I don't think it will harm him. Men and women are different, and that is why that is completely and totally different than a male teacher student fucking a 14 year old female student. Finally, as I stipulated that 14-15 is a "gray area" that has pluses and minuses on both sides, I accept the proposition that that woman can go to jail for what she did. Just don't tell me it is child molestation, because it is not, or that the lad will be traumatized as if it were child molestation.
 
But are they changing for the better? No, not in this instance. Again, age of consent at 18 puts the US along with places like Iran.
It is also antithetical to human biology and actual social mores. Teenagers are sexually active. It is absurd and puritanical to treat a 17 year old as a child. A minor is not the same thing as a child. When someone calls a sophomore or junior high school a child, I think of Anthony Michael Hall's character telling the rebel kid about physics club, and all the "children" get together for a Christmas banquet.
What would be better about your way, exactly? If you're making an appeal to biology then you're basically saying 14 is acceptable, even though you said it's "grey". That would also make 13 acceptable.

You're being inconsistent, and not really making any case for why 18 isn't good aside from some vague reference to Iran.

Age restrictions on president have nothing to do with drinking age at 21.
I never claimed otherwise, but the topic was specifically about age of consent regarding sexuality. You brought up booze, expanding the conversation to general societal age restrictions, so I can do that too.

Answer the question, why not let a teenager become president?

On that, you do realize that high school kids do and will drink. Laws contrary to that are like laws trying to prevent the sky from being blue. There much evidence thtat the binge drinking phenomenon that exists in the US is because of this puritanical nonsense.
That's a poor justification, "it'll happen anyway" is straight up libtard logic. You sound just like HHH by crying about "puritanism", he does the same thing when I call him a degenerate lol

They do harm people when they needlessly ensnare people into legal trouble and even criminal convictions for natural relationships that WILL happen. 18 year old seniors do "date" or "fuck" under classmen. And sorry I seel little distinction between that, covered by some romeo and juliet laws, and instances like Baylee Turner who was 23 and her future a 17 yo senior in high school. Sometimes this in the guise of hyper promiscuity that we both disapprove of, other times in the guise of committed loving relationships that even end in marriage. Did you read that case re Baylee Turner?
Maybe don't do illegal things if you want to avoid legal troubles? A case like that, 23 and 17, is getting very dicey even though it's not as bad as the 14 and 45 case. There needs to be a limit, and not everybody is going to agree where. 18 works for most people and you said 17 was acceptable, so why is one more year such problem? Someone else will say your limit of 17 is unacceptable and argue for 16.

Ending in marriage isn't a justification, by the way.

Another comment of mine that seems to be overlooked is that the thing I find most objectionable about these teacher sex scandals is that a lot of the time women are married. No one seems to talk about that, and yet I find that the most objectionable thing of all in many of these cases. As I stated before though it all depends on the exact age and circumstance. A 16 year old sophomore or junior who is not coerced is wildly different than a 13-14 who is coerced.

In relation to that 40 something woman that who boinked a 14 year old and I received a lot of negative stickers,
I want to reiterate that while it is not--by definition--pedophilia, it is rather sleazy. But no at 14, absent a showing that it is coerced oand that it was not voluntary, I don't think it will harm him. Men and women are different, and that is why that is completely and totally different than a male teacher student fucking a 14 year old female student. Finally, as I stipulated that 14-15 is a "gray area" that has pluses and minuses on both sides, I accept the proposition that that woman can go to jail for what she did. Just don't tell me it is child molestation, because it is not, or that the lad will be traumatized as if it were child molestation.
Infidelity is a problem, but that stems from a society which has cheapened sexual relations. You can't argue for lowering AoC on one hand, and then complain about infidelity on the other.

The lad may not be traumatized, but he had his choice taken away from him. Saving himself for marriage isn't an option now, an older seductress took that from him. That's falling been out of fashion for decades, sure, but it's still wrong in my view, puritanical as it may seem to you (which, again, is strange that you have a problem with yet somehow still so highly value the sanctity of marriage).
 
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Of course it's okay if female pedos rape children. Look at this dude. He's totally not mentally scarred by being sexually exploited by hot women, bros. Totally not at all. It's different when it's dudes raping girls. Girls don't want to be sexually exploited by men. Boys want hot women to rape them however. It's a scientific fact.
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