Thoughts about DSP's Psychology - Dr Fred Freud's Office

[Corpun]

I'm relistening to some of his Project 7 retconning about why he didn't actually make money off it and came to two things.

A) Phil says he made nothing because he bought tons of props for the show he never used, which sounds an awful lot like him buying all those fucking statues. He claims to have lost money because of this prop buying and I am willing to go on a limb here and think he overspent whatever he earned on it on props because he doesn't know how to run anything. All these 'props' he has sitting somewhere in his pigpen collecting dust were bought because he saw them and wanted them.

B) He claims he spent 900 dollars on t-shirts, even though all three pitched in 300 bucks each. The minute that money was in his hands he believed it to be his and therefore he spent 900 dollars on it, Rambo and Howard spent nothing.

And all of this issue with paying was because he never communicated anything about the finances of P7 because he is scared of everything. I honestly believe he thinks he carried everything on P7 and had no supervision or assistance and just bought whatever he wanted without being told that was bad.

I do think P7 was something he wanted to do but ultimately the effort put into it was too much for him and he wasn't making enough money/spending too much and not budgeting.

 

[Freshtodeath]

He wasn't willing to compensate the crew which at the time was doing pretty advanced motion graphics for such a shitty project. If I recall the head of the production was having a child at time and phil still decided to provide zero money for their time. This was reason for Howard to point that out he was leasing a bmw and paying for expensive hotels with panda lee.

 

[Corpun]

He wasn't willing to compensate the crew which at the time was doing pretty advanced motion graphics for such a shitty project. If I recall the head of the production was having a child at time and phil still decided to provide zero money for their time. This was reason for Howard to point that out he was leasing a bmw and paying for expensive hotels with panda lee.

His justification for not paying them was they never asked and there wasn't a contract or anything.

Everything needs to be explicitly transactional to Phil. He doesn't understand there are expectations of paying people for their work, or at the very least compensating them someway.

 

[Sup3r]

I do think P7 was something he wanted to do but ultimately the effort put into it was too much for him and he wasn't making enough money/spending too much and not budgeting.

It's almost certainly his attempt to imitate the popularity of NC and AVGN at the time (especially the NC with the anniversary movies) and it was very obvious that he didn't go into it with a basic plan of what he wanted to do or if what he could do was at all feasible for him. The only thing he knew (according to him) was that the big event would be ff7, a game he claims he thought was overrated.

And the most Phil part of it all was that Phil spent all this money on props that he likely never used and yet his "antagonist" was just a skeleton picture on a t shirt. He couldn't even be bothered to buy a skeleton mask for it.

 

[DeeTracktor]

I doubt Phil spent ALL the money on props, considering he is a lyer, an alcoholic and a gambling/gacha addict...

EDIT : I forgot, he is a confirmed feeder now, that shit aint cheap either

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

I doubt Phil spent ALL the money on props, considering he is a lyer, an alcoholic and a gambling/gacha addict...

EDIT : I forgot, he is a confirmed feeder now, that shit aint cheap either

I feel like the $300 Gears of War gun was just lying around since he splurged on it anyway one drunken night and used it to save money, funnily enough.

 

[Corpun]

And the most Phil part of it all was that Phil spent all this money on props that he likely never used and yet his "antagonist" was just a skeleton picture on a t shirt. He couldn't even be bothered to buy a skeleton mask for it.

I doubt Phil spent ALL the money on props, considering he is a lyer, an alcoholic and a gambling/gacha addict...

While he is def lying about spending loads on props I do think he internally justified buying what he did with "I'll use this for the show soon." instead of setting up an actual budget for the show based on what it made and paying Jon and Howard and whoever else out of pocket based on either that pay he just splurged because he doesn't understand finances whatsoever.

 

[UncleTusky]

His justification for not paying them was they never asked and there wasn't a contract or anything.

Everything needs to be explicitly transactional to Phil. He doesn't understand there are expectations of paying people for their work, or at the very least compensating them someway.

The "no contract = no pay" was just an after-the-fact rationalization: When Phil screws someone over, it's OK because there was not an ironclad contract with clear rules and penalties (i.e. whenever there is a gray area, he can do whatever the fuck he wants). But when an MCN or Twitch or Youtube screws him over, it's blatantly illegal because there is not a specific rule giving them the right to do exactly what they did. Just look at the whole Twitch departnering farce - his defense was not that he didn't use slurs or Twitch can't ban slurs, it was that Twitch couldn't enforce the rule anymore because they had initially let his behavior slide. In other words gray areas can only benefit Phil, never the other party. At least to me that sounds way more like narc double standards than a sincere belief that rules don't exist unless there's a contract in place.

Edit: Even if Phil really did believe it, that approach would make any sort of code of conduct (not just online) tens or hundreds of pages long because it would need to list every imaginable offense, combination of offenses, and a penalty for each. There's a reason most terms of service (for sites) or rules of conduct (for IRL employers) include something to the effect of "this is not an exhaustive list and we reserve the right to use our discretion".

 

[Abe Vigoda]

His Project 7 “justifications” really highlight how he truly only sees the world in terms of immediate monetary returns. He doesn’t seem to understand the idea of spending money now to build something that will make money in the future, or spending a lot on a high quality show in hopes of drawing new eyes to your other, cheaper content. The Project 7 reboot was surprisingly high quality for that time on the internet. It’s not hard to imagine if they stuck with it it getting a following, and then the people who watched it would be getting recommendations to his playthroughs, where he would actually make the money off of them. But no, everything he does needs to see immediate returns or it’s not worth doing. And God forbid you spend a small fraction of your hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on just creating something for art’s sake.

 

[Sup3r]

His Project 7 “justifications” really highlight how he truly only sees the world in terms of immediate monetary returns. He doesn’t seem to understand the idea of spending money now to build something that will make money in the future, or spending a lot on a high quality show in hopes of drawing new eyes to your other, cheaper content. The Project 7 reboot was surprisingly high quality for that time on the internet. It’s not hard to imagine if they stuck with it it getting a following, and then the people who watched it would be getting recommendations to his playthroughs, where he would actually make the money off of them. But no, everything he does needs to see immediate returns or it’s not worth doing. And God forbid you spend a small fraction of your hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on just creating something for art’s sake.

The other big example of this is KOGaming. He expected an immediate surge of viewers to suddenly start showing up to it, especially after one review went viral. And because he never capitalised on it which lost him all the new attention and he regularly complained about how there weren't enough views. He even lied about his reason to drop it, claiming that anything he uploaded would just be demonetised until he all of a sudden needed another account to upload his "archive" to when his main channel lost monetisation rights for a short period of time.

Also he never rebooted project 7. He made a reboot of it a patreon reward but he never went through with it. He promised it and yet, he had no idea what he was going to do for it and didn't even start thinking until the goal was hit. And even after trying to weasel his way out of making the whole thing with claiming he was promising a trailer (it was the whole thing he promised and even offered a chance to be in it as a reward tier) he still failed to deliver on that. His reasoning at the time was that there was "too much going on" with games at the time to dedicate a few hours to making something that people had already paid for.

 

[Abe Vigoda]

The other big example of this is KOGaming. He expected an immediate surge of viewers to suddenly start showing up to it, especially after one review went viral. And because he never capitalised on it which lost him all the new attention and he regularly complained about how there weren't enough views.

God, KOGaming. It so obvious how he could have capitalized on the success: do a full playthrough of Homefront, make a followup video after you beat it going into everything that was wrong with it, keep reviews like that coming. It's so weird how he is so desperate to try the same thing over and over again sometimes, like after the vest streak with the "jersey streak" or the Gunnar glasses, but not times when it would have made so much sense to keep making angry reviews. What is the weird thing that triggers his "you can't tell me what to do" reflex?

 

[FaXmachine]

God, KOGaming. It so obvious how he could have capitalized on the success: do a full playthrough of Homefront, make a followup video after you beat it going into everything that was wrong with it, keep reviews like that coming. It's so weird how he is so desperate to try the same thing over and over again sometimes, like after the vest streak with the "jersey streak" or the Gunnar glasses, but not times when it would have made so much sense to keep making angry reviews. What is the weird thing that triggers his "you can't tell me what to do" reflex?

I think Phil doesn't understand cause and effect or at least fully, he can't work out the specifics so he tries the same thing over and over. Like for whatever reason he thinks viral tweets are somehow going to grow his channel, you can see by how bitter he is when yet again nothing changes.

Btw can we address all the random noises he keeps making of late, the clown mode sounds/the things with his saggy jowls and the screechy singing which legit reminds me of a dog howling to mimic a person singing. Is this just a sign of brainrot? He literally is acting retarded.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

I think Phil doesn't understand cause and effect or at least fully, he can't work out the specifics so he tries the same thing over and over. Like for whatever reason he thinks viral tweets are somehow going to grow his channel, you can see by how bitter he is when yet again nothing changes.

Might be those late night grandiose gin thoughts he comes up with. The time where he feels the need to get a hold of his life and start thinking of shit like growing the channel, then wakes up the next morning in a stupor forgetting about it and not caring because he's feeling like shit getting 5-6 hours of sleep from staying up getting a dopamine fix from his gacha slot game.

 

[Salubrious]

His Project 7 “justifications” really highlight how he truly only sees the world in terms of immediate monetary returns. He doesn’t seem to understand the idea of spending money now to build something that will make money in the future, or spending a lot on a high quality show in hopes of drawing new eyes to your other, cheaper content.

DSP was making $250K/year at one point, and literally has worse equipment than a lot of college students with 10 viewers per stream. He doesn't even have a "gaming PC."

DSP has never once invested a single dollar back into his business that he hasn't had to (a.k.a. new releases) because of all his "bills."

 

[Abe Vigoda]

DSP was making $250K/year at one point, and literally has worse equipment than a lot of college students with 10 viewers per stream. He doesn't even have a "gaming PC."

DSP has never once invested a single dollar back into his business that he hasn't had to (a.k.a. new releases) because of all his "bills."

Makes you wonder what kind of mind can get a college degree in business and yet fail to learn about concepts like “loss leaders” or “investing”.

 

[Corpun]

I think Phil doesn't understand cause and effect or at least fully, he can't work out the specifics so he tries the same thing over and over. Like for whatever reason he thinks viral tweets are somehow going to grow his channel, you can see by how bitter he is when yet again nothing changes.

Btw can we address all the random noises he keeps making of late, the clown mode sounds/the things with his saggy jowls and the screechy singing which legit reminds me of a dog howling to mimic a person singing. Is this just a sign of brainrot? He literally is acting retarded.

It is honestly amazing to me he ever got big. He got extremely lucky with how YouTube worked back in the early 2000s and never adapted. Phil never changed his methods because he failed to understand for every venture he did early on content was changing and just kept on going pumping out low quality unedited content because he thought it would work for everything.

KOGaming probably had the most editing of any of his shit and he probably hated how much time it took to produce because he couldn't just pump it out by the dozen.

 

[Salubrious]

Makes you wonder what kind of mind can get a college degree in business and yet fail to learn about concepts like “loss leaders” or “investing”.

Or budgeting. Or paying taxes. Or not declaring bankruptcy.

 

[Sup3r]

God, KOGaming. It so obvious how he could have capitalized on the success: do a full playthrough of Homefront, make a followup video after you beat it going into everything that was wrong with it, keep reviews like that coming. It's so weird how he is so desperate to try the same thing over and over again sometimes, like after the vest streak with the "jersey streak" or the Gunnar glasses, but not times when it would have made so much sense to keep making angry reviews. What is the weird thing that triggers his "you can't tell me what to do" reflex?

It was his review of it that went viral. What he failed to do was capitalize on the attention he received for it it (attention that was for once more positive) by making more reviews and maintaining the momentum. Instead he chose to cash in on it and went on a "staycation" and let people forget about him before he continued to make reviews, acting surprised that they didn't stay in the hopes he would put out a new video.

The whole business with the streak bs is that he was seeing consistent, instant money that he thought he could get away with using for his mobile game. And once he gets used to a new high, he does all he can do (without actually putting in effort) to maintain that as the new floor. Whereas the reviews required him to put in effort to make a video and any to he spent doing that was time not streaming and getting tips. That's why he gave up on them: he never saw instant gratification and had zero patience to build it up, Instead just believing that it should've been an instant success.

I think this reflex is his inability to be wrong on something. He always has to be correct in a situation, even when it ultimately makes him look worse. He's the one with the degree after all, he's the one who's been taught this, not you. If Phil did what people told him to do, he'd being admitting that he was doing things incorrectly,

 

[Beverly Sutphin]

This was brought on the That Being Said podcast by Steven of The Dead and he brought up a good point about our favorite cow. We all know that Phil is a STRONG candidate for cluster b personality disorder of NPD, but he did bring up cluster C personality disorders - now, fancy college book learning speak - cluster C is anxious, fearful thinking, and behavior. Where does Philliam fall on? Avoidant Personality Disorder. What do these traits include?

• You avoid work activities that involve contact with others. This is due to fear of criticism, disapproval, or rejection.
• You’re unwilling to get involved with other people unless you’re sure they like you.
• You hold back in relationships because you’re afraid you’ll be ridiculed or humiliated.
• The fear of being criticized or rejected in social situations dominates your thoughts.
• You hold back or completely avoid social situations because you feel inadequate.
• You think you’re inferior to others, unappealing, and inept.
• You’re unlikely to take part in new activities or to take personal risks because you’re afraid of embarrassment.

Now, who do we know that's OVERLY sensitive of criticism and rejection? What about avoiding social activities or jobs that require working around other people? I mean, if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck...It's been noted during Phil's early days of the FGC that while Phil talked a BIG game online, he was "quiet as a church mouse in person." from Jaha. Phil loves being on "level 1", because he can't take risks and has a fear of being embarrassed. Green screen? Can't do that, dood! Having a bunch of trash behind him? Sure!

I can write a thesis on proving point after point of how Philliam falls into each category, but let's be fair: he nails 3 of them perfectly. Especially taking personal risks for fear of embarrassment, along with fear of work activities and fear of criticism and rejection, along with only fucking with people that he only knows for CERTAIN that they like him a la John, Howard, and Leanna. Kat, well, I think she puts up with him for the free room and board, but that's a whole other story.

Hi, Phil!

Source: https://www.healthline.com/health/avoidant-personality-disorder#treatment
DSM-V: https://www.mentalhelp.net/personality-disorders/cluster-c/

 

[ADN_VIII]

Just look at the whole Twitch departnering farce - his defense was not that he didn't use slurs or Twitch can't ban slurs, it was that Twitch couldn't enforce the rule anymore because they had initially let his behavior slide. In other words gray areas can only benefit Phil, never the other party. At least to me that sounds way more like narc double standards than a sincere belief that rules don't exist unless there's a contract in place.

I don't think Phil has put enough thought into this to come to an intentional conclusion that he should take advantage of grey areas and be angered when they're used against him. I think he literally thinks like a child and only sees contracts in how they benefit him. That he thought he could go after Twitch legally when he undoubtedly signed away his right to do so in the partner contract and his constant insistence that Twitch was doing something illegal despite the contract having clauses for Twitch to unilaterally sever it shows, I think beyond reasonable doubt, that Phil only sees things that work for him and ignores everything else to hope for the best.