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Haha, being a sperg myself thats Chris thorndyke from Sonic X, In the show he's a total beta male simp for Sonic, most of the fanbase hate the guy for being a soy cuck virgin, fitting Chris would look up to him.
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There *is* a limit for incompetence, depending on the charges filed. If they have locked it in as a misdemeanor it is 1 year from arrest, unless they upgrade the charges to felony status, in which case it is 5 years (regardless of whatever felony he's charged with)
For them to keep him locked up in WSH forever they need to change his status from incompetent to incapacitated, at which point the charges will be dropped and he will instead be there under civil commitment. This is easier than just taking someone off the street and getting them committed, since the probable cause for the crime, as well as the psych eval, has demonstrated their illness. This is similar to NGRI but not as hard to prove, and it's not a verdict, so if it's for a felony then unlike NGRI, the charges can be brought again if he's ever restored (with only the time spent during IST status counting as time served). Incest can be a felony, so if they ever let him out, they could still have it be a felony even if they considered it a misdemeanor when he was IST.
So yes, they can keep him locked up in WSH forever without a conviction, but I don't think they'll go to the legal trouble of keeping him there.
EDIT: Unless he's charged with rape, in which case it will be ridiculously easy to keep him in civil commitment forever as the civil commitment rules for violent sex offenders are much, much lower, and being shifted from IST to civil commitment lets these rules apply even without a conviction, and the unrestorable status carries over as evidence for commitment. Basically in that case he would have to prove that he is mentally competent enough to not rape again (even though he was never convicted of rape).
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You make him sound like Bobby Sands.
I am sure he has smeared shit on his cell walls too.
Chris doesn’t have the stones to hunger strike though.
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There should be a rule where you starve fatty inmates on the grounds that improves their health and thus is more humane.
It worked on Goering. I mean, before he an heroed.
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Hey they can just deal a little dope to make ends meet, like Operation Dark Alliance.
The fact that he refuses to admit he even did anything wrong at all strongly militates against such an argument.
One thing I haven't considered, and have somewhat dismissed, is the idea that Chris would actually blow up a deal and refuse to go along with it even at the end of the year. I know he's always eventually meekly gone along with it, but generally the deal always meant he got to go straight back home once he signed on the dotted line and said the magic words.
He might outright refuse a deal that said he couldn't, or that would have that result even if it didn't say that. I know people say well they can't do that, and that's generally the rule, but in actuality unless the defendant signing it makes a fuss out of it and appeals it, they get away with all kinds of questionably legal shit in deals.
I'm interested. I still really think he's ultimately going to come to the table because that will be what everyone wants, but it is ultimately up to him and he's a complete moron.
I see them sending him as far away as possible within Virginia so that it's at least not easy for him to get back to 14BC.
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As fun as that sounds it would be worse for someone like Chris.
The body eats nice lean muscle tissue before it does the fat reserves.
He would become scrawny and baggy with loose skin, gaunt and sunken eyed.
As bad as he has looked Trooned out, this would make him nightmarish.
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I know someone¹ who spent four years in and out of the state hospital on a couple of one year misdemeanor charges (that could have been served concurrently) because he kept intentionally making an ass of himself in court (beyond even what Chris does). I'm fairly sure he was never declared anything beyond incompetent, and took so long to finish because his time in hospital didn't count towards a sentence. Also he refused to enter a plea, stating in court he refused to say he was guilty and refused to say he was not guilty. I'm not sure why, but for some reason refusing to make any plea at all made him ineligible for a plea deal, so he basically forced the case to trial. In the end he was found guilty and then had to spend a few months more in jail to finish out his sentence, when he probably could have plead out at the beginning and got off with just a fine. Admittedly, I didn't follow his case that closely beyond the occasional, "Holy fuck, he's STILL not out?" but this is how I believe things went. I don't believe he was ever declared incapacitated, just incompetent.
This is only relevant to Chris because it's possible his time at Western State might also not count towards his sentence, depending on how things are done in Virginia. It's also relevant because Chris is also an idiot.
Chris is more trouble than he's worth.
Fingers crossed.
This is delicious nutraloaf. You must eat it.
I understand gun running is also very lucrative, like Operation Fast and Furious.
This is one of the possibilities I foresee that could cause the court to finally lose patience with Chris and wobble him back up to Big Boy Court on felony charges. Chris would be an idiot to do this, but, as you say, Chris is an idiot.
I'm hoping for Accomac. We might finally learn if fatty can swim. Yes, it would be learning the hard way, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.
Chris is already nightmarish. What's beyond that?
¹ A so-called "sovereign citizen" for those of you know know what that means. For those of you who don't, it means "jackass".
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I doubt it will happen. My guess is he might pout, but I think he'll probably be wrangled well enough that he'll do what his lawyer says.
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By "starve" I mean by Chris' standards. You give them a little bit of protein with the right amino acids so the muscles don't get harvested, a little bit of oil for the right fatty acids (fish oil good for the omega-3), and a vitamin/mineral supplement.
The main goal is to just cut the calories way down so the body has to harvest the fat.
Like I said, it worked for Goering, and they didn't even have great nutritional science back then.
It does count in Virginia, which is one of the reasons why there's a time limit. That time limit for a misdemeanor is 1 year, and for a felony is up to 5 years, at which point the court is basically told to stop trying to restore him and just decide if he can go to trial, be let go, or has to go to the loony bin indefinitely as a non-criminal. The clock stops ticking the moment he gets civil commitment, and the charges are dropped, which is why they could still come back and zap him on a felony later. For instance if they gave him civil commitment at one year, he still could be looking at up to nine years in prison when the mental hospital says he's okay to leave (however many years later).
The only charge where they can be kept on IST forever is Aggravated Murder.
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I can't remember for certain, but wasn't Chris used as a model in some zombie apocalypse game?
I doubt it as well, but it is a possibility thanks to Chris' talent for making things worse for himself.
Ah. The case I was talking about happened elsewhere.
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Sov-Cits are just intentionally stupid.
If any of that remotely worked in the real world, don’t they realize that ambulance chasing lawyers would use it to get people off serious crimes all the time?
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Sovereign Citizens and Chris have a lot in common in that both believe they are always correct and the rest of the universe (and it's laws) are wrong. It's not too far a stretch to describe Chris as a Sovereign Citizen of CWCville.
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Well, he is the Sole Sovereign citizen of CWCville.
It’s unfortunate for him that reality disagrees that he lives there.
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I'm not certain that's the case. Unfortunately, Chris is not alone in his crazy. That or certain weens are far better at playing along that I'd give them credit for.
Off-Topic: Are there Sov-Cits in Europe? It seems a particularly American retardation.
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I mean were Chris's holidays anything worth looking forward too? He had no friends to hang out with and shoot off fireworks, or other family to have a cookout with. If he weren't sitting in a jail cell right now he'd be sitting alone in his room playing with toys and games, eating a TV dinner, occasionally talking with Barb, and possibly have sex with her. Pretty much what he already did every other day. Even in jail his routine hasn't disrupted too much so missing out on any holiday isn't too big of a deal for him. Any glimpse into the holidays at 14 Branchland CT paint a depressing, miserable, low-effort picture and a 4th of July weekend would be no different.
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The UK definitely.
They are known as Freemen on the land.
They quote the Magna Carta instead of the articles of federation or whatever, which is really fucking stupid unless they can prove that they are a baron, but even then subsequent rulings mean the aristocracy are not the check to the ruling power of the king.
They even go as far as setting up their own courts and “put judges on trial” for high treason and “abusing a public office”.
To my knowledge no one has enforced the sentences of life imprisonment on these judges.
Like the American sort they tend to turn simple traffic stops which normally result in a warning and advice into an arrest and charges of breaching the peace, perverting the course of justice, resisting arrest, etc.
They then make matters even worse by trying to insist on bringing their cameras into public courts and ending up with contempt of court charges.
Holland and Germany have them too.
I am not sure what their legal woo is based on, but I suspect it’s similar outdated overruled laws from pre modern times.
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So , hes getting out of jail.
And he still owns the house.
What are the possible events that may lead to homeless situation? if possible.
And he still owns the house.
What are the possible events that may lead to homeless situation? if possible.
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Getting arrested was literaly the worst thing that could have happened to Chris in terms of producing content.
While it was the most "fun" we had in recent years because, lets face it, Chris was already kind of only slow dripping content, him getting arrested now lead to a complete shutdown of it.
We are only still getting anything because Chris cant help himself but keep writing these letters, which they only serve to show that "Yep, still crazy. Nope, the therapy aint doing shit."
The only "new" thing he is saying now is that he is Jesus Christ, which, lets face it, feels both predictable and cliched. The former because Chris did show signs of seeing himself as a borderline Christ like figure in Cwcville and the latter because it seems every crazie eventually throws the "Im actually Christ" card sooner or later, especially after they are behind bars because it helps recontextualize their suffering to that of Christ's. Its the classic delusions of grandeur that we have seen a lot of times in criminals, especially the more messed up ones in the head. Chris isnt panicking or throwing tantrums in prison as far as we know and all his letters seem reasonably calm if not paranoid that those damn dirty guards are out to get him (because it wouldnt be Chris otherwise). Getting arrested surprisingly didnt phase him much.
Besides, we know that any therapy there wont fix Chris, we have seen it first hand for nearly two decades that he is a psychological lost cause as no one, not even the few professionals he was forced to go to, were able to change his ways not a single bit.
So I legit dont know what we are expecting at this point, if he does get convicted, I'd imagine it would be more of the same we have seen until now for the years to come (until I guess he gets shanked by someone who cant stand hearing him for one more day and doesnt mind the extra time). If he somehow doesnt and return home, we are back at the slow dripping stuff, except maybe without as many Twitter pats as before given a lot of his defenders jumped ship when news came out (tho I can see some returning because they just cant help themselves).
Either way, the farms kind of lose in terms of getting something funny out of him. I guess it was truly all over once Chris lost his comical but endaring child like innocence.
While it was the most "fun" we had in recent years because, lets face it, Chris was already kind of only slow dripping content, him getting arrested now lead to a complete shutdown of it.
We are only still getting anything because Chris cant help himself but keep writing these letters, which they only serve to show that "Yep, still crazy. Nope, the therapy aint doing shit."
The only "new" thing he is saying now is that he is Jesus Christ, which, lets face it, feels both predictable and cliched. The former because Chris did show signs of seeing himself as a borderline Christ like figure in Cwcville and the latter because it seems every crazie eventually throws the "Im actually Christ" card sooner or later, especially after they are behind bars because it helps recontextualize their suffering to that of Christ's. Its the classic delusions of grandeur that we have seen a lot of times in criminals, especially the more messed up ones in the head. Chris isnt panicking or throwing tantrums in prison as far as we know and all his letters seem reasonably calm if not paranoid that those damn dirty guards are out to get him (because it wouldnt be Chris otherwise). Getting arrested surprisingly didnt phase him much.
Besides, we know that any therapy there wont fix Chris, we have seen it first hand for nearly two decades that he is a psychological lost cause as no one, not even the few professionals he was forced to go to, were able to change his ways not a single bit.
So I legit dont know what we are expecting at this point, if he does get convicted, I'd imagine it would be more of the same we have seen until now for the years to come (until I guess he gets shanked by someone who cant stand hearing him for one more day and doesnt mind the extra time). If he somehow doesnt and return home, we are back at the slow dripping stuff, except maybe without as many Twitter pats as before given a lot of his defenders jumped ship when news came out (tho I can see some returning because they just cant help themselves).
Either way, the farms kind of lose in terms of getting something funny out of him. I guess it was truly all over once Chris lost his comical but endaring child like innocence.