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I remember, vaguely, a push for bark and pebble and white stone lawns.

Naw, lets just force everyone else to give us water for our automatic sprinklers that run for 3 hours every morning and evening.
My grandparents who still live in the region have gone to a xeriscape front yard because the city was sending inspectors to bother my grandparents about grass not being trimmed frequently. Imagine that, a disabled 90 year old Vietnam vet can't mow the lawn like he did 20 years ago.

Honestly I'm glad they went with a xeriscape. Their water bill will go down a lot and for their income that should be quite a relief. Their front yard also won't attract the ire of town clerk busybodies due to the lawn being a scraggly, underwatered, poorly maintained mess.
The amount of water wasted to maintain a suburban image viable in wetter parts of America is something I truly loathe.

Oh no, see, the fires and depleted water tables are caused by global warming, which just coincidentally isn't caused by our egregious mismanagement of our own ecological resources...turns out it's caused by people not voting Democrat enough and throwing enough resources after trendy futuretech!

Managing your water and forest resources responsibly is boring and hard and can't just be fixed by electing the latest screeching shitlib.



Higher water level in a canyon: environmentally intolerable.
Drying out river deltas: fine

bEcAusE cAlIforNia pRodUces So mUcH foOd
I studied geology with some env. sci. on the side and I can understand a site survey saying "this canyon can't be a reservoir or you'll get San Francisquito Dam Failure 2" or "an endemic species lives only here in the whole wide world; reservoir = extinction" but the insistence of Californian eco-faggots on being parasites to support their demented anti-human, laissez-faire environmental stewardship model is harming the rest of America. The Colorado runs dry watering lawns and almonds while the westerlies drag soot and smoke from one of the perennial wildfires east.

The San Joaquin Valley subsided 9 meters between 1925 and 1970 and it's only gotten worse as California is wrung dry by agricultural practices ill suited to an arid state. The fires are merely a fact of life in that state now, fire season never really ends like it did when I lived there as a kid. A grass fire can very easily turn into a fire that threatens to raze entire neighborhoods or townships because there's nothing but kindling, sage brush, and eucalyptus trees everwhere with zero forestry management.
 
Totally different Democrat Parties.

Dukakis was the last of a line of SJW-type lefties who were run as a sop to the lunatic fringe of the base who wanted lefties as Presidents. The DNC basically sacrificed the Presidency running these types (and only actually getting one of them elected, IE Carter) while funneling the bulk of their money and resources to keeping Congress and the statehouses under their control via promotion of blue dog/moderates.

The one-two humiliation of Mondale and Dukakis losing basically led to the rise of Bill Clinton, who believed in winning at ANY cost, even if it meant betraying the blue collar base to get that sweet sweet evil corp cash and the creation of triangulation to let them move to the right.

Biden was the culmination of this move by the left, who committed election fraud of the highest degree possible to get him installed. Even quasi-red pilled shills like Bill Maher acknowledge that Biden's health issues and his mental stability was second only to removing Trump by any means necessary.

And again, I invoke the ten year Reich of Kamala Harris, because even though the masses despise her, (((they))) are dead set on maxing out her term as President fuck the will of the people because that's the only alternative they have at the moment replacing Biden.
Question is, which group or demographic would be cheering on for Kamala?
 
Yeah, had they lost, they could have sat back and ree about problems instead of solving problems while fixing their own internal problems.

Now all of their political energy is spent covering for a senile pedophile, his clown crew, his big gay war in Ukraine, and his even bigger, gayer economic depression. 2020-2024 should have been a period of purging the woke from Democratic leadership. Instead, they put them in charge of everything.
 
I think Mark Kelly will win re-election because he comes off as "moderate" and "likable" to people.
"Moderate?" He votes 97% of the time with Biden, and makes his gun control nuttery more apparent by shilling his former congresswoman wife, who nearly got rinsed by one, like Biden does with Beau.

"Likeable?" If any Arizona could've found him in 2020 to determine his character, okay? But to pair it with the moderate remark, no one likes a flip-flopper; the man is desperately trying to play it like an moderate Arizonan (polls say he'll win, but he ain't acting like it), but he just votes on a partisan line.

I'm not seeing it. With the rate he's going, his debate with probably Blake Masters will be a bloodbath.
 
To throw a white pill: they're doing this because
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and this is pretty much one of their only options left. If this fails (and I have a feeling it will), TPTB are screwed.
Considering what happened in New York after NYC tried to let non-citizens vote (court slapped that shit down hard with a summary judgement) things are going to get interesting.
 
"Moderate?" He votes 97% of the time with Biden, and makes his gun control nuttery more apparent by shilling his former congresswoman wife, who nearly got rinsed by one, like Biden does with Beau.

"Likeable?" If any Arizona could've found him in 2020 to determine his character, okay? But to pair it with the moderate remark, no one likes a flip-flopper; the man is desperately trying to play it like an moderate Arizonan (polls say he'll win, but he ain't acting like it), but he just votes on a partisan line.

I'm not seeing it. With the rate he's going, his debate with probably Blake Masters will be a bloodbath.
Blake Masters is well more well spoken as well and Mark Kelly won in a very questionable election.

There is also the case of Hershel Walker trailing the nigger in Georgia as well.
 
Clinton rose because of Perrott splitting the conservative vote.

And yes he changed the party, with his third way policies.
This is correct. Most of the triangulation happened after the midterms where GOP took over both sides of Congress for the first time in decades. His first two years was plagued with left wing garbage: Hillarycare, gun control, Waco, etc. He became a moderate and embraced neoliberalism to ensure he could win the 1996 election. Let’s not forget he was given millions of dollars from China, which resulted in them being given the most favored nation status for trade. I get why Perot ran but he was a spoiler that led to the rise of the Clintons who hollowed out the party so they could run it and now that vacuum has been filled by woke leftists who are sockpuppeting a drooling retard currently.
 
the rise of the Clintons who hollowed out the party so they could run it and now that vacuum has been filled by woke leftists who are sockpuppeting a drooling retard currently.
I disagree

The leftist are the most vocal and visible faction, they also have supporters in media, and the fucking psy-op that is social media.

But they are truly a minority and the current admin pandering to them has lead to a bunch of issues.

The leftist dogma has been generating a back lash for awhile now. There is more push back against troonism (like men in sports)

The black lesbian press security, the homo transportation securitary, the pedo nuclear dude and the troon in charge of health would all be very cartoonish but when the pressure is on boom, they all fold.

The DNC does need to pivot and peal off more of the moderates and cast out the far leftist faction.
 
I disagree

The leftist are the most vocal and visible faction, they also have supporters in media, and the fucking psy-op that is social media.

But they are truly a minority and the current admin pandering to them has lead to a bunch of issues.

The leftist dogma has been generating a back lash for awhile now. There is more push back against troonism (like men in sports)

The black lesbian press security, the homo transportation securitary, the pedo nuclear dude and the troon in charge of health would all be very cartoonish but when the pressure is on boom, they all fold.

The DNC does need to pivot and peal off more of the moderates and cast out the far leftist faction.
The problem is that they cannot. It is true that the progs are a minority... but a sizeable one. Too sizeable. And made up of people with nowhere else to go so they end up voting universally Democrat.

The Democrats lack appeal to the center and cannot pivot to the center without losing the progs, but losing the progs means they cannot win elections because that pivot would take decades to work.
 
And again, I invoke the ten year Reich of Kamala Harris, because even though the masses despise her, (((they))) are dead set on maxing out her term as President fuck the will of the people because that's the only alternative they have at the moment replacing Biden.
You still think that's the plan? Maybe it was in 2020, but it's so obvious it isn't in 2022.
 
You still think that's the plan? Maybe it was in 2020, but it's so obvious it isn't in 2022.
>Kamala, what are you thoughts about the SCOTUS decision with Roe v Wade?
<MUH SONS! I am a parent of sons, this will effect them!

>Kamala, you're going to help NASA talk to kids about outer space. What will you be saying
<THE BIG YELLOW ONE IS THE SUN!!!

>Kamala, It's your job to help the crisis in the border. What will you do
<*dust cloud fades away*

>Kamala, you'll be speaking in Ukraine, do a good job O.K.?
<Ukraine and Russia IMMEDIATELY go to war once she's done.
 
The problem is that they cannot. It is true that the progs are a minority... but a sizeable one. Too sizeable. And made up of people with nowhere else to go so they end up voting universally Democrat.

The Democrats lack appeal to the center and cannot pivot to the center without losing the progs, but losing the progs means they cannot win elections because that pivot would take decades to work.
I wonder how many voters are just prog adjacent. I have friends who aren't SJWs themselves but would certainly use the right pronoun, for example. They are pro-vaccine pro-ukraine pro-whatever but also afraid of the woke mob at work.

Basically I'm wondering what it would take to un-stick voters like that from the democrats, or at least to the point where democrats would start abandoning the SJWs. It wasn't THAT long ago that SJWs were seen as uncool. It was like 10 years ago that you could call them out as being full of themselves without being seen as an evil wrongthinker.
 
The problem is that they cannot. It is true that the progs are a minority... but a sizeable one. Too sizeable. And made up of people with nowhere else to go so they end up voting universally Democrat.

The Democrats lack appeal to the center and cannot pivot to the center without losing the progs, but losing the progs means they cannot win elections because that pivot would take decades to work.
It will go like it goes every 30-40 years for leftist parties in the rest of the world.
They do not see the danger that the progressives represents and even invite them in with open arms since they will energize and bring in the young vote.
The progressives, and often mixed with actual communists of different denominations, soon become one of the stronger voices of the party. At this point the party is held hostage by the progressives since they can not kick them out. Instead put blinders on and pray that things will turn-around.

Eventually they have pushed so far and lost so much of the centre support that there is an election where the party is completely destroyed and unelectable for the next decade. At this point there is no point in pretending everything is fine and no point in worrying about losing the support from the progressive left any more and they finally kick them all out and start rebuilding.

It happens over and over.
 
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