Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

[PipTheAlchemist]

Already happened. Couch Cuck aka @FuckYou.

Impossible. With a profile pic like that, he'd surely be a hit with the ladies

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Impossible. With a profile pic like that, he'd surely be a hit with the ladies

Well he was cucked by a couch. Lol.

 

[Duke Nukem]

They don't even deserve that. If they're that shitty at everything, they don't even deserve to have an enjoyable life, imo. At least try to get good at something

Well, at least let them have their Nintendo Switch. That way they'll be occupied while you fuck their wives.

Well he was cucked by a couch. Lol.

The best part is that people still stop by to leave their condolences now and then. His final resting spot is a Terry WAD themed around furniture.

And no, I don't think any woman would ever have seriously been attracted to him, considering he looks exactly how you'd expect a person with his views and behavior to look.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Well, at least let them have their Nintendo Switch. That way they'll be occupied while you fuck their wives.

I'll let them have a "Switch", alright. I'll switch-off their life support, after I beat the shit out of them with my big beefy fists

 

[Duke Nukem]

I'll let them have a "Switch", alright. I'll switch-off their life support, after I beat the shit out of them with my big beefy fists

Sounds like a good thing to put on your dating profile. Can't be worse than most of the ones I've seen.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Sounds like a good thing to put on your dating profile. Can't be worse than most of the ones I've seen.

I don't use online dating. Why would I, when I could just go outside, and get like five women in my bed by just stepping five feet outside of my house?

 

[Angelic 2 the Core]

I generally agree with this.


I disagree with this. There are lots of guys who are only two out of the four things you listed and have stable marriages. As long as you have one of the four traits you listed, you have a shot. Maybe not at a 10/10 cheerleader, but there are lots of nice girls out there who will go for a neurotypical guy from a nice, normal family. Especially considering "resources" is so subjective. To a girl from a lower class family, a guy with a condo and a 9-5 job is extremely resource rich, while the same guy would be looked at as poor by a girl from a family of millionaires.

The biggest issue most incels have is they are extremely neurodivergent.

There are also lots of normal, well adjusted men who are not getting any dates or maybe get a girlfriend once every few years at best. These are the types of men who would have been considered a great catch in the past. You seem to be basing your viewpoints on men who are struggling in dating based on the insane ones who spend all day online writing crazy shit. If there's no sexual attraction then you will become a friend at best regardless of how neurotypical you are.

Also, I'm not sure what point you're arguing about resources. Of course resources are relative. I never said otherwise. If you look at current marriage stats then I have bad news for you there as well... You also don't know how long those "happy marriages" will last. There are many "happy married" people who are really miserable behind the scenes, argue all the time, don't have sex, and are headed for divorce eventually. Or they just decide to stay together and be miserable.

 

[Never Scored]

There are also lots of normal, well adjusted men who are not getting any dates or maybe get a girlfriend once every few years at best. These are the types of men who would have been considered a great catch in the past. You seem to be basing your viewpoints on men who are struggling in dating based on the insane ones who spend all day online writing crazy shit. If there's no sexual attraction then you will become a friend at best regardless of how neurotypical you are.

Also, I'm not sure what point you're arguing about resources. Of course resources are relative. I never said otherwise. If you look at current marriage stats then I have bad news for you there as well... You also don't know how long those "happy marriages" will last. There are many "happy married" people who are really miserable behind the scenes, argue all the time, don't have sex, and are headed for divorce eventually. Or they just decide to stay together and be miserable.

The point of my post is while I agree women like the traits you listed, I think anyone who would make a blanket statement like this:

The problem is that what women want basically goes down to genetics and things beyond your control. You basically need to have all of these things covered because one might get you in the door but she will eventually leave you or treat you poorly if you're lacking in another. An ugly guy might get married for his resources and because he's a good provider but his wife will secretly resent him due to her not being physically attracted to him and eventually divorce him. He will be usually be a beta guy who is confused and in denial about why this happened. Women will also dump you if their family or friends make fun of you or talk shit about you because women are very conscious about social standing. This is why multiple women want to date the same men at the same time while they all reject the other guys at the same time.

Does not have much experience with women or relationships and is borderline autistic. I don't know what else to tell you dude. If you literally think that you are one of the insane ones writing crazy shit online.

 

[Angelic 2 the Core]

The point of my post is while I agree women like the traits you listed, I think anyone who would make a blanket statement like this:

Does not have much experience with women or relationships and is borderline autistic. I don't know what else to tell you dude. If you literally think that you are one of the insane ones writing crazy shit online.

It's interesting that you're getting triggered at me for making a "blanket statement" then follow up by personally insulting me and making a blanket statement right after that. You were also attempting to put words in my mouth by saying you disagree with me then mentioning something I never said.

It actually could be the opposite of what you're saying. Maybe someone who has a long experience of dealing with women and relationships eventually notices patterns. Human behavior in general is often much darker than the naive ideas our culture tries to brainwash people with.

Is using "autistic" as an insult and insulting people when you disagree with them the type of "good" personality that gets you women? That's something sane people do, right? You're attacking me personally instead of debating the ideas, insulting disabled people, etc. Clearly all examples of a neurotypical person with a "good personality".

 

[Zoomer Cringelord]

Fuck off with the personal slapfights, everyone participating in this thread has never felt the touch of a woman fucking ever, me included.

Lets just laugh at incels raging, cutting their dicks off and joining Islam and women being godless fucking whores.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

Fuck off with the personal slapfights

That's all a 'debate'-style thread is, what are you talking about?

Lets just laugh at incels raging

You want this thread. (...is what I'd like to say, but actually that incels.is thread is basically just this one again.)

 

[Car Won't Crank]

The point of my post is while I agree women like the traits you listed, I think anyone who would make a blanket statement like this:

Does not have much experience with women or relationships and is borderline autistic. I don't know what else to tell you dude. If you literally think that you are one of the insane ones writing crazy shit online.

But good sir, how can you say that when you @Never Scored?

 

[Never Scored]

It's interesting that you're getting triggered at me for making a "blanket statement" then follow up by personally insulting me and making a blanket statement right after that. You were also attempting to put words in my mouth by saying you disagree with me then mentioning something I never said.

It actually could be the opposite of what you're saying. Maybe someone who has a long experience of dealing with women and relationships eventually notices patterns. Human behavior in general is often much darker than the naive ideas our culture tries to brainwash people with.

Is using "autistic" as an insult and insulting people when you disagree with them the type of "good" personality that gets you women? That's something sane people do, right? You're attacking me personally instead of debating the ideas, insulting disabled people, etc. Clearly all examples of a neurotypical person with a "good personality".

The issue with all this is you are talking to someone who is quite experienced with women with an extended social circle and I can directly observe the idea that you are fucked and can never have a happy relationship if you are lacking in one of those areas is incorrect. The reason I say someone who would make such a blanket statement is autistic is because someone who would make such an argument when it falls apart so easily through first-hand observation is clearly poorly socialized and incapable of making such observation for themself.

We've been over this before in this thread. We all live in a perceptible reality. If I can look at the ground and observe the grass is green behind my house and someone on the Internet starts trying to argue it is not green when I am directly looking at it and seeing it is green, I'm probably just going to call them a retard. Ideas only really merit polite debate when they bring up some engaging, complicated, nuanced idea, not an idea that is clearly observably false like the one you presented.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Men giving up on women were called MGTOW. I ran into some of the early MGTOW types on YouTube in the late 2000's. Back then they were true MGTOW. They were men that were done screwing with women, and they decided to go their own way. Most of these guys were just the types who picked shitty women. They couldn't have that 9/10 or 10/10 crazy bitch who was highly sexual usually not just with them, so they had a little tantrum and decided they were done with women. That's fine. The thing they didn't do was sit around and bitch about women all day like a bunch of whiny faggots. They would make videos about being single was more fun in some cases. Talk about all the money they save and stuff they could afford with the woman out of their lives. But sitting around bitching about women incessantly is not something they did.

This kind of changed when these incel types showed up. I think some started calling themselves MGTOW as well. They sit around bitching and complaining about women all day. They sound like male versions of those women who sit around and bitch and complain about men. You know the types. All men are pigs all men are lazy all men cheat they are all no good. It's not because I decided to spend my time screwing around with shitbags.

The thing is men shouldn't act like those women. Men don't do that. We insult and laugh at those women. We don't act like them. If you are a man and you engage in that type of behavior all you are doing is making other men look as bad as you.

This is the truth about incels. Most of them are just socially retarded loser types. They might have other problems as well like poor hygiene strange behavior and so on. The point is their sexless life is all their fault. But they like to blame other things like feminism Jews and women. These loser weirdos started showing up around the time the alt-right was dying. I don't remember seeing incels in 2015 2016 or 2017. I started seeing the incel shit in 2018.

There is no such thing as an incel. If you aren't getting laid it's your fault. It's not women's fault or anything else. It all on you. If you won't do any self-improvement to help you attract the opposite sex that is your fault. No, I do not mean spending time in a gym like some kind of faggot. That most likely won't help you. The internet is full of guys who did that shit and never got attention from women. Work on your hygiene, social skills and so on. Hygiene and social skills will do more than working out. Brush your teeth wash your ass shave and learn how to talk to women.

There are millions of women out there and if you can't find one that will sleep with then that's all on you. Like I said incels don't exist. It's not involuntary.

I see these incel losers and I know the kind of guys I see women with and all I can think is how fucked up these incel guys are. You see women walking around with these knuckle dragging morons that if they are lucky, they might grunt out a few words and it will never be a complete sentence. But you got these guys online bitching about how they can't get laid.

Incels: All women are sluts these days guyz

Also

incels: I can't get laid boo hoo forever alone meme.

Wait I thought all women were sluts now? You still can't get laid? This doesn't make any sense.

 

[Angelic 2 the Core]

The issue with all this is you are talking to someone who is quite experienced with women with an extended social circle

 

[White Pride Worldwide]

Fuck off with the personal slapfights, everyone participating in this thread has never felt the touch of a woman fucking ever, me included.

Lets just laugh at incels raging, cutting their dicks off and joining Islam and women being godless fucking whores.

One night stands aren't everything they are cracked up to be. It just made me hate women more cuz I know they only talking to me now cuz I am better looking.

 

[White Pride Worldwide]

Men giving up on women were called MGTOW. I ran into some of the early MGTOW types on YouTube in the late 2000's. Back then they were true MGTOW. They were men that were done screwing with women, and they decided to go their own way. Most of these guys were just the types who picked shitty women. They couldn't have that 9/10 or 10/10 crazy bitch who was highly sexual usually not just with them, so they had a little tantrum and decided they were done with women. That's fine. The thing they didn't do was sit around and bitch about women all day like a bunch of whiny faggots. They would make videos about being single was more fun in some cases. Talk about all the money they save and stuff they could afford with the woman out of their lives. But sitting around bitching about women incessantly is not something they did.

This kind of changed when these incel types showed up. I think some started calling themselves MGTOW as well. They sit around bitching and complaining about women all day. They sound like male versions of those women who sit around and bitch and complain about men. You know the types. All men are pigs all men are lazy all men cheat they are all no good. It's not because I decided to spend my time screwing around with shitbags.

The thing is men shouldn't act like those women. Men don't do that. We insult and laugh at those women. We don't act like them. If you are a man and you engage in that type of behavior all you are doing is making other men look as bad as you.

This is the truth about incels. Most of them are just socially retarded loser types. They might have other problems as well like poor hygiene strange behavior and so on. The point is their sexless life is all their fault. But they like to blame other things like feminism Jews and women. These loser weirdos started showing up around the time the alt-right was dying. I don't remember seeing incels in 2015 2016 or 2017. I started seeing the incel shit in 2018.

There is no such thing as an incel. If you aren't getting laid it's your fault. It's not women's fault or anything else. It all on you. If you won't do any self-improvement to help you attract the opposite sex that is your fault. No, I do not mean spending time in a gym like some kind of faggot. That most likely won't help you. The internet is full of guys who did that shit and never got attention from women. Work on your hygiene, social skills and so on. Hygiene and social skills will do more than working out. Brush your teeth wash your ass shave and learn how to talk to women.

There are millions of women out there and if you can't find one that will sleep with then that's all on you. Like I said incels don't exist. It's not involuntary.

I see these incel losers and I know the kind of guys I see women with and all I can think is how fucked up these incel guys are. You see women walking around with these knuckle dragging morons that if they are lucky, they might grunt out a few words and it will never be a complete sentence. But you got these guys online bitching about how they can't get laid.

Incels: All women are sluts these days guyz

Also

incels: I can't get laid boo hoo forever alone meme.

Wait I thought all women were sluts now? You still can't get laid? This doesn't make any sense.

Bruh your advice is Jordan Peterson tier. The harsh reality is women have the privilege of being more picky due to all the attention they get from desperate who have good looks and you probably are average and can't compete. Every incel needs to go to the gym, skin hygiene and possibly look into plastic surgery to fix their facial flaws.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Bruh your advice is Jordan Peterson tier. The harsh reality is women have the privilege of being more picky due to all the attention they get from desperate who have good looks and you probably are average and can't compete. Every incel needs to go to the gym, skin hygiene and possibly look into plastic surgery to fix their facial flaws.

Shouldn't we consider incels to people who have advanced from denial to the anger or further stage of grief?
And yes, that is mathematically true. A woman can (usually) only give birth to one child at a time (280 days ), whereas a man can inseminate multiple women (1+ every 280 days if they got hyped on the ED meds I guess, no idea how long until they run out of sperm).
Logic would dictate that the population bottleneck is not men, thus if all else is equal, women would have the selective advantage of choosing over men.
Obviously that is not the case. Go look at any third world shithole or the "Now, let's see how Islam teaches you to beat your wife" middle east.

 

[White Pride Worldwide]

Shouldn't we consider incels to people who have advanced from denial to the anger or further stage of grief?
And yes, that is mathematically true. A woman can (usually) only give birth to one child at a time (280 days ), whereas a man can inseminate multiple women (1+ every 280 days if they got hyped on the ED meds I guess, no idea how long until they run out of sperm).
Logic would dictate that the population bottleneck is not men, thus if all else is equal, women would have the selective advantage of choosing over men.
Obviously that is not the case. Go look at any third world shithole or the "Now, let's see how Islam teaches you to beat your wife" middle east.

You're assuming that every woman who is dating is serious about having kids with the current person or people they are seeing. From my experience here, women are as big of coomers as men and have way more degenerate kinks and fetishes than I ever will. The pill has created an avenue for women to where they will no longer be punished for casual sex with raising a child. A lot of women in contemporary times are career women who think they need to be on the same level as men or act like men to find fulfillment in their lives and then when they hit their late 20s start getting baby fever and wanting to actually settle down with someone and even then they are not satisified considering that 50% of marriages now just end in divorce with the woman pocketing all the money.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

You're assuming that every woman who is dating is serious about having kids with the current person or people they are seeing. From my experience here, women are as big of coomers as men and have way more degenerate kinks and fetishes than I ever will. The pill has created an avenue for women to where they will no longer be punished for casual sex with raising a child. A lot of women in contemporary times are career women who think they need to be on the same level as men or act like men to find fulfillment in their lives and then when they hit their late 20s start getting baby fever and wanting to actually settle down with someone and even then they are not satisified considering that 50% of marriages now just end in divorce with the woman pocketing all the money.

I'm not sure it matters currently.
Societal changes always upset the balance between the relationship between the two genders. They are not equal and never will be, much to the chagrin of brainwashed feminists/incels but not to their leaders. Currently it has reached an equilibrium where it is disadvantageous to males and advantageous to females. We shall see what the future will hold.