The Gun Control Debate Thread - Controlling autism since 2022

[Justtocheck]

He genuinly hates statistics.

You neg-rate me on anything and everything, most not even AR related. Neg-rate me all you want, just stop pretending that you are doing it for any other reason then being mad.

And yet again, you missed the point. Please reread my comment.

I'm going to stop the neg-rating waterboarding. I did not know it was considered torture. They told me it was "enhanced opinioned reaction". By the way, should we give Guantanamo bay prisoners, who did not get due process for being imprisoned guns? It's their liberty against the Us Gov's tyranny after all.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I'm going to stop the neg-rating waterboarding. I did not know it was considered torture. They told me it was "enhanced opinioned reaction". By the way, should we give Guantanamo bay prisoners, who did not get due process for being imprisoned guns? It's their liberty against the Us Gov's tyranny after all.

They are hardly US citizens as far as I am aware. They can get guns, if they are legally able, at their own country.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Data suggests that if you can't tell how much more dangerous and AR platform is compared to a handgun, then it's highly likely people will think you are dum-dum and sticker you accordingly. Also why do you forget that in those cases almost all the killings was done with AR platforms ( Pulse- SIG MCX, Sandy hook-Bushmaster XM-15, Las Vegas- an arsenal of rifles, Douglas school-S&W MP15)

I mean, just logically speaking, handguns and shotguns are much more effective in close-confines like a school, and obviously a handgun is very easy to conceal. Plus basically any handgun and most shotguns are going to be far cheaper than an AR-15, with cheaper ammo to boot.

The main reason shooters started using AR-derivatives is because they saw that CNN and other media stopped talking about the shooters that used handguns and would just talk about Columbine again if a shotgun was involved. This is likely why Virginia Tech, again, the deadliest school shooting in US history, is barely mentioned by politicians or media figures but some rando with an AR-15 gets mentioned after every attack even a decade later. The media basically tells mentally ill people that the only way to get attention is to attack very young children at a school while using an AR-15. Anything else, and the media will bury your story faster than a black man driving into a Christmas parade.

 

[Burned CDs]

Everyone should control their own gun.

 

[Justtocheck]

I mean, just logically speaking, handguns and shotguns are much more effective in close-confines like a school, and obviously a handgun is very easy to conceal. Plus basically any handgun and most shotguns are going to be far cheaper than an AR-15, with cheaper ammo to boot.

Are you selectively being stupid? Rewatch the Christchurch video and tell me that handguns are shotguns are "much more effective in close-confines" than ARs- Fuck me, what a brain dead take.

 

[Particle Bored]

"Blah blah blah ARs are mega dangerous death machines because they have an effective 500 yard range."

"That Tarrant guy that shot everyone from 15 feet away could never have pulled it off without an 'aSSauLt riFLe.'"

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Are you selectively being stupid? Rewatch the Christchurch video and tell me that handguns are shotguns are "much more effective in close-confines" than ARs- Fuck me, what a brain dead take.

They literally are, though. The main advantage of a rifle is its greater range, which is irrelevant in close-confines. AR-15's also typically fire an intermediate cartridge, which has a lot less stopping power than say a 12 gauge shotgun firing even triple aught buck, let alone a slug, or a .45 revolver round. An AR-15 is a varmint rifle; in my state you can't even legally hunt deer with a .223 because it's inhumane to hunt a 100+ pound animal with such a weak weapon, you'll just end up wounding it.

 

[Justtocheck]

They literally are, though. The main advantage of a rifle is its greater range, which is irrelevant in close-confines. AR-15's also typically fire an intermediate cartridge, which has a lot less stopping power than say a 12 gauge shotgun firing even triple aught buck, let alone a slug, or a .45 revolver round. An AR-15 is a varmint rifle; in my state you can't even legally hunt deer with a .223 because it's inhumane to hunt a 100+ pound animal with such a weak weapon, you'll just end up wounding it.

"Remember, no russian."

"We should have brought shotguns and handguns for this massacre, Makarov. These rifles and machine guns won't do shit."

"Shut up, Alexei!"

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Are you selectively being stupid? Rewatch the Christchurch video and tell me that handguns are shotguns are "much more effective in close-confines" than ARs- Fuck me, what a brain dead take.0

Logic suggests they are. But, here you go, some scientific proof.

On close range (depending on the ammo) shotguns are more damaging, deadly, and effective than rifles. In fact, shotguns are the ideal close range weapons. Many revolvers likewise are more useful close range.

That is not to say AR15 is useless, rather that there's a good reason why 82% of all mass shootings since 1998 used hanguns in addition to other weapons, and 60% if we take them solo.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

I'm going to stop the neg-rating waterboarding. I did not know it was considered torture. They told me it was "enhanced opinioned reaction". By the way, should we give Guantanamo bay prisoners, who did not get due process for being imprisoned guns? It's their liberty against the Us Gov's tyranny after all.

Pretty sure the US already gave them guns. And missiles.

 

[The Foxtrot]

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"Remember, no russian."

"We should have brought shotguns and handguns for this massacre, Makarov. These rifles and machine guns won't do shit."

"Shut up, Alexei!"

You know you've lost the argument when you're literally using a video game scene from fucking Call of Duty as a retort.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

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"Remember, no russian."

"We should have brought shotguns and handguns for this massacre, Makarov. These rifles and machine guns won't do shit."

"Shut up, Alexei!"

This is some 4chan esl shitposter levels of misrepresentation.

 

[Justtocheck]

You know you've lost the argument when you're literally using a video game scene from fucking Call of Duty as a retort.

The inability to see humor is a sign of lower inteligence.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

The inability to see humor is a sign of lower inteligence.

So is not being funny.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Hey, let's forget all about this topic. I'm getting scared getting teamtagged like this by gun owners. I will go aways and you guys can go back to tending your alpacas. Please don't hurt me or send me threatening pictures of yourself no more.

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Sorry Jack, I don't think any of us are trannies here. Otherwise half of us would be dead.

Are you selectively being stupid? Rewatch the Christchurch video and tell me that handguns are shotguns are "much more effective in close-confines" than ARs- Fuck me, what a brain dead take.

Well, he took down a few guys from close range from the shotty, so not ineffective in that regard. He probably ran out of ammo for the shotgun and didn't want to reload it due to how long reloading the shotgun would've taken and would make him vulnerable to someone like the guy that charged at him. I suspect you didn't watch the video ever.

This is some 4chan esl shitposter levels of misrepresentation.

The difference between 4chan shitposting and what Just is doing is that 4chan shitposters are aware of their irony.

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"Remember, no russian."

"We should have brought shotguns and handguns for this massacre, Makarov. These rifles and machine guns won't do shit."

"Shut up, Alexei!"

The inability to see humor is a sign of lower inteligence.

Also the guy on the far right is holding an automatic shotgun.

 

[LaxerBRO]

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"Remember, no russian."

"We should have brought shotguns and handguns for this massacre, Makarov. These rifles and machine guns won't do shit."

"Shut up, Alexei!"

I wonder if the kids killed in Uvalde in that hour would have cared. A revolver or an AR, if your target is trapped and unarmed, they are as good as dead.

 

[Biggusstickus]

Hey let me play devil’s advocate here because I was reading social media and there was an argument why a big city like New York would ban guns. If everyone kept bumping into each other in so crowded a place there like the subways or bus, well, everyone would just start shooting each other.

That said outside the city, having guns keeps the world #1 military from turning against its own citizens. And with so many guns and people who know how to use them, people who have loved ones and property to protect that are more powerful motives than patriotism could provide.

 

[Kosher Snake]

Just is a petty bastard. A few days ago, someone mentioned him on the BreadTube thread and he showed up and began to spout bullshit. All his arguments are either whataboutisms, goalpost moving, and other fallacies. Whenever he is confronted with anything that disproves the gun control narrative, he firstly gives the post a neg-rating and then proceeds to engage in a fallacious argument using the aforementioned tactics. Truly sad.

Sorry about that, couldn't help but mention him cuz someone was talking about lobotomy-level-stupid takes and I was fresh off reading on this thread
I had no idea that me invoking his name means he falls in love and follows my activity

Hey let me play devil’s advocate here because I was reading social media and there was an argument why a big city like New York would ban guns. If everyone kept bumping into each other in so crowded a place there like the subways or bus, well, everyone would just start shooting each other.

That said outside the city, having guns keeps the world #1 military from turning against its own citizens. And with so many guns and people who know how to use them, people who have loved ones and property to protect that are more powerful motives than patriotism could provide.

Yeah problem is, lot of overly ban happy people have this tendency to go "oh here's how urban metrohomos operate, therefore everyone should be like that"
City bugmen assume the world works like how their behavioral sink tells them to and they go ballistic when they see that there's more suburbs and rural areas than the gentrified cement forests they call home

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Sorry about that, couldn't help but mention him cuz someone was talking about lobotomy-level-stupid takes and I was fresh off reading on this thread
I had no idea that me invoking his name means he falls in love and follows my activity

All good bro, he's probably one of those guys. You know, the kind that goes off whenever someone talks smack about them and rather ignoring them, they go apeshit? I wonder if we got a name for those types, hmmmm.

 

[Justtocheck]

Sorry about that, couldn't help but mention him cuz someone was talking about lobotomy-level-stupid takes and I was fresh off reading on this thread
I had no idea that me invoking his name means he falls in love and follows my activity

Rent free. Next time just tag me

All good bro, he's probably one of those guys. You know, the kind that goes off whenever someone talks smack about them and rather ignoring them, they go apeshit? I wonder if we got a name for those types, hmmmm.

Chuck, it's not healthy to project. I love you all here.