Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

@TheRetardKing
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>"Maclunkey."
>Refuses to elaborate

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I find it hilarious that George still ended up changing ANH years after Disney bought it and there's nothing anyone can do about it

I just wish he said why he added that. It's pretty random and it seemed like he was happy with the scene for a while.

 

[Sneed F91]

I just wish he said why he added that. It's pretty random and it seemed like he was happy with the scene for a while.

Doesn't Maclunkey mean "I'll kill you" or something? I think Sebulba says it to Anakin in TPM. I guess George just wanted to make it more obvious that Han shot Greedo in self defense, even though him shooting first already did that.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

@TheRetardKing
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>"Maclunkey."
>Refuses to elaborate

Spoiler

I find it hilarious that George still ended up changing ANH years after Disney bought it and there's nothing anyone can do about it

Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones (2002) and Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

That is our George Lucas. An artist that always stares at his masterpiece and notices an imperfection. What does he do? He fixes it, that's what!

 

[Creep3r]

@TheRetardKing
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>"Maclunkey."
>Refuses to elaborate

Spoiler

I find it hilarious that George still ended up changing ANH years after Disney bought it and there's nothing anyone can do about it

Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Clones (2002) and Star Wars Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith (2005)

I just wish he said why he added that. It's pretty random and it seemed like he was happy with the scene for a while.

Doesn't Maclunkey meal "I'll kill you" or something? I think Sebulba says it to Anakin in TPM. I guess George just wanted to make it more obvious that Han shot Greedo in self defense, even though him shooting first already did that.

Maclunkey.

It was a reference to Sebulba's line in huttese from TPM where its actually written in the script as "mo killee ma klounkee" which meant "I will end you" early on but was changed to "It will be the end of you" for the final draft. Even wookieepedo didn't get the spelling right which goes to show how shoddy their site's quality is.

On a production side note, Sebulba's language of huttese was scrambled runasimi/quechua (a south american folk dialect) with bits of scrambled finnish much like Greedo, Jabba and other huttese speakers in the franchise. Basically Huttese is the real world Quechua dialect said out of order with several words replaced with these made up and mispronounced ones:

http://www.completewermosguide.com/hutttranscript.html

The fact that it was based on Quechua is why a proper dictionary (aside from a small handbook) never got released since some politically correct bleeding heart would throw a hissy fit over it, which actually happened during the production of ANH when one of the crew was consulting a university professor on the obscure south american language they wanted to use for the aliens in the movie, to which the professor refused to help because it would be insulting to link the natives with aliens, so they had to ask one of his students for help who didn't understand the language too well but knew all the words which would go on to be used for Greedo and later Jabba and other alien and hutt characters throughout the franchise, with a sort of guide in place on what words meant what for other authors to use. An alphabet system for Jabba and Tatooine was also conceived as a resource by Eric Larson for content creators and marketing material during the prequels whose symbols were loosely based on tininagh, an old algerian alphabet.

 

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

Doesn't Maclunkey meal "I'll kill you" or something? I think Sebulba says it to Anakin in TPM. I guess George just wanted to make it more obvious that Han shot Greedo in self defense, even though him shooting first already did that.

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It was a reference to Sebulba's line in huttese from TPM where its actually written in the script as "mo killee ma klounkee" which meant "I will end you" early on but was changed to "It will be the end of you" for the final draft. Even wookieepedo didn't get the spelling right which goes to show how shoddy their quality is.

On a production side note, Sebulba's language was scrambled runasimi/quechua (a south american folk dialect) with bits of scrambled finnish much like Greedo, Jabba and other huttese speakers in the franchise. Basically Huttese is the real world Quechua dialect said out of order with several words replaced with these made up and mispronounced ones:

http://www.completewermosguide.com/hutttranscript.html

The fact that it was based on Quechua is why a proper dictionary (aside from a small handbook) never got released since some politically correct bleeding heart would throw a hissy fit over it, which actually happened during the production of ANH when one of the crew was consulting a university professor on the obscure south american language they wanted to use for the aliens in the movie, to which the professor refused to help because it would be insulting to a group of people in the middle of nowhere, so they had to ask one of his students for help who didn't understand the language too well but knew all the words which would go on to be used for Greedo and later Jabba and other alien and hutt characters throughout the franchise, with a sort of guide in place on what words meant what for other authors to use.

Okay. But the scene made it clear by action and dialog that Greedo was going to kill Han, so I don't get why the line would be needed. Lucas is genius in many ways, but also weirdly autistic in some. I just wish his last changes were something that would have pissed off the Disney Wars fans, like making it clear that all the made up Disney shit is not canon lol. It would be wild if George still makes changes a few years from now. I have no idea what else he'd want to change.

That is our George Lucas. An artist that always stares at his masterpiece and notices an imperfection. What does he do? He fixes it, that's what!

Imagine JJ making changes to the ST lol!
"We added this scene to hint that Snoke is actually a puppet of the Emperor, or whatever"

 

[Creep3r]

Okay. But the scene made it clear by action and dialog that Greedo was going to kill Han, so I don't get why the line would be needed. Lucas is genius in many ways, but also weirdly autistic in some. I just wish his last changes were something that would have pissed off the Disney Wars fans, like making it clear that all the made up Disney shit is not canon lol. It would be wild if George still makes changes a few years from now. I have no idea what else he'd want to change.

Its a pointless change yeah, I'm just pointing out what it meant. George is incredibly creative but is also incredibly autistic and his reasoning is always rather perplexing and inconsistent to the point where he may regularly contradict himself, saying he likes one thing now then forgetting said thing ever existed. Its no surprise why George was actively looking for people to direct and write the prequels for him, yet all of them refused for the sake of keeping their cushy and politically-fueled Hollywood guild positions, and people will still try and pretend that he was "too arrogant" to look for help when it was clear that Hollywood and even that traitorous and self-serving [expletive deleted] Steven Spielberg weren't willing to do a thing to help except make things worse. Even Spielberg years later only cared about promoting his bastard boy JJ to the spot of a star wars director when he convinced George to sellout.

Don't worry though, his ma klounkee edit did piss off disney fans. Disney fags like HelloGreedo who only shilled Disney for years and all the retarded decisions they had been making simply because they thought Disney would release the unaltered versions of the OT got an even worse edit, and all they could do was fume or (in HelloGreedo's case) act like complete hypocrites and barely say a word on the matter. HelloGreedo spent years fuming over every little flaw George had yet when Disney goes around and does far worse he barely utters a peep, and the years he spent telling people how much SW comics, video games, books, etc sucked was replaced with him shilling everything Disney pumped out (even books where Han Solo gets a lecture on racism) in the most pathetic displays of submission imaginable, even Boba's survival which he always claimed to hate despite never even reading The Bounty Hunter Wars was something he was quick to praise as soon as Disney did it like the true hypocritical cuckshill that he is.

Imagine JJ making changes to the ST lol!
"We added this scene to hint that Snoke is actually a puppet of the Emperor, or whatever"

Gee willickers, its almost as if JJ is a hack. The new Westworld becoming a wet fart should also serve as a reminder to people that the man has no talent for writing, creativity or payoffs.

 

[Sneed F91]

That is our George Lucas. An artist that always stares at his masterpiece and notices an imperfection. What does he do? He fixes it, that's what!

You joke but this is how a lot of artists think. Even if people think their stuff is perfect the creators never will. Most directors aren't autistic enough to change things to the degree Lucas does but definitely could notice things that bug them. A lot of directors do end up changing their movies in small ways after they come out but since they're not Star Wars nobody cares.

But the scene made it clear by action and dialog that Greedo was going to kill Han, so I don't get why the line would be needed.

Han is a drug smuggling criminal but not a "bad person" according to ANH. George didn't think that was obvious enough for some reason (on top of the Greedo scene being a reshoot) since they couldn't use the Jabba scene back then. Don't ask my why it annoys him so much, because I don't know, it just does.

Or maybe he likes fucking with the fans a bit more after the sequels turned out how they did.

Imagine JJ making changes to the ST lol!

JJ was going to have Luke floating rocks at the end of TFA so signify that he was still strong with the force, but Rian of all people convinced him to take that part out to fit with TLJ.

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It was a reference to Sebulba's line in huttese from TPM where its actually written in the script as "mo killee ma klounkee" which meant "I will end you" early on but was changed to "It will be the end of you" for the final draft. Even wookieepedo didn't get the spelling right which goes to show how shoddy their site's quality is.

View attachment 3475820On a production side note, Sebulba's language of huttese was scrambled runasimi/quechua (a south american folk dialect) with bits of scrambled finnish much like Greedo, Jabba and other huttese speakers in the franchise. Basically Huttese is the real world Quechua dialect said out of order with several words replaced with these made up and mispronounced ones:

http://www.completewermosguide.com/hutttranscript.html

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The fact that it was based on Quechua is why a proper dictionary (aside from a small handbook) never got released since some politically correct bleeding heart would throw a hissy fit over it, which actually happened during the production of ANH when one of the crew was consulting a university professor on the obscure south american language they wanted to use for the aliens in the movie, to which the professor refused to help because it would be insulting to link the natives with aliens, so they had to ask one of his students for help who didn't understand the language too well but knew all the words which would go on to be used for Greedo and later Jabba and other alien and hutt characters throughout the franchise, with a sort of guide in place on what words meant what for other authors to use. An alphabet system for Jabba and Tatooine was also conceived as a resource by Eric Larson for content creators and marketing material during the prequels whose symbols were loosely based on tininagh, an old algerian alphabet.
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They only got away with basing the alien languages on obscure earth languages back then because there was no internet so nobody actually knew about it. If they tried that shit now it would be a serious deal and would trigger a lot of people online. Hell people already think the OT and PT are racist.

Its no surprise why George was actively looking for people to direct and write the prequels for him, yet all of them refused for the sake of keeping their cushy and politically-fueled Hollywood guild positions, and people will still try and pretend that he was "too arrogant" to look for help when it was clear that Hollywood and even that traitorous and self-serving [expletive deleted] Steven Spielberg weren't willing to do a thing to help except make things worse.

Larry Kasdan and Ron Howard were such fags when it came to this. They refused to help with the prequels yet jumped on Disney Wars the first chance they had got. And the movies they worked on ended up being complete dogshit anyways. I do remember hearing rumors that Spielberg did direct parts of ROTS, kind of like how George did a lot of the post production on Jurassic Park while Spielberg was making Super Schindler's List 3D.

The Hollywood industry shat all over George for the PT (not entirely undeserved) and hated him for daring to work outside their system, but conveniently pretend Disney's movies aren't complete shit at the same time. In fact, they can't stop jerking them off. How hypercritical is that?

 

[Creep3r]

They only got away with basing the alien languages on obscure earth languages back then because there was no internet so nobody actually knew about it. If they tried that shit now it would be a serious deal and would trigger a lot of people online. Hell people already think the OT and PT are racist.

Considering the reaction of the snooty university professor they asked for help back in the 70s was the same as the reactions most folks have now, it makes me miss the days when this kind of overly moral faggotry was confined to fart huffing campuses.

 

[Sneed F91]

Considering the reaction of the snooty university professor they asked for help back in the 70s was the same as the reactions most folks have now, it makes me miss the days when this kind of overly moral faggotry was confined to fart huffing campuses.

Wasn't Lando added to Empire because someone complained to George about the lack of black people in ANH? The same thing is still going on now, but with more virtue signaling for diversity. I love Lando (Soylo and TROS and piss off) but it's still interesting that happened.

 

[Bulk Bogan]

Wasn't Lando added to Empire because someone complained to George about the lack of black people in ANH? The same thing is still going on now, but with more virtue signaling for diversity. I love Lando (Soylo and TROS and piss off) but it's still interesting that happened.

It's the same reason why they brought Sam Jackson into the PT, use the Coolest Black Man to get black asses in theater seats. Just for the OT they made a character that played to Billy Dee's strengths, being a suave slick scumbag with a heart of gold; not quite a black Han Solo, but close. In the PT they took a yelly action movie star and told him to be a calm space monk, which was a miscasting especially when compared to the complete success they achieved with Lando. SLJ did alright, but you can't help but realize the inherent cynicism.

As a side note, I appreciate that Sam Jackson's color autism finally broke the green-blue lightsaber monopoly for the good guys. It's just boring, and I say that with my favorite lightsaber color being green.

 

[Chris Mclean]

Its a pointless change yeah, I'm just pointing out what it meant. George is incredibly creative but is also incredibly autistic.

I went on a nostalgia trip and checked out an MMO i played as a kid and i got to say i couldn't believe Aaylas model.

So i went to the Clone wars tv show.

Goddamn boys 2010 was not that long ago yet we are miles away from what they would let you get away with now. Today you can insert a fucking pride parades as seen in blues clues or just try to brainwash kids trough hamfisted pushing of poltical agenda but god forbid you help teenage boys trough puberty.

 

[Midwit]

Lucasbux are a pathway to many creative choices that some would consider unnatural.

 

[The Decimator]

even books where Han Solo gets a lecture on racism

Say what? When did this happen????

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

Say what? When did this happen????

Solo: Last Shot by Daniel Jose Older. There's a scene where Han is in the lobby of some building or something, and he tries to chat up a Gungan in the room by using the "meesa" and "yousa" speech patterns typical of the species, mostly out of a desire to be friendly. Then the Gungan turns to him, and in unaltered Basic, proceeds to racesplain Han Solo about how "not all Gungans talk like that", in a scene that rings about as subtle as a brick to the face.

The guy who wrote this garbage got promoted to being one of the chief authors for the High Republic project, btw.

 

[Sneed F91]

Solo: Last Shot by Daniel Jose Older. There's a scene where Han is in the lobby of some building or something, and he tries to chat up a Gungan in the room by using the "meesa" and "yousa" speech patterns typical of the species, mostly out of a desire to be friendly. Then the Gungan turns to him, and in unaltered Basic, proceeds to racesplain Han Solo about how "not all Gungans talk like that", in a scene that rings about as subtle as a brick to the face.

The guy who wrote this garbage got promoted to being one of the chief authors for the High Republic project, btw.

Cold Take: The character assassination of Han Solo was just as bad as Luke's and it baffles me nobody gave a fraction of a damn about it when TFA came out. All because "I clapped when Harrison Ford showed up like muh childhood!!!!".

It's the same reason why they brought Sam Jackson into the PT, use the Coolest Black Man to get black asses in theater seats.

No offense but do we actually have proof of this being the case or was it just something Mike made up? Lando being black (and being put in for "woke" reasons) didn't really matter in the end because the character was based. Mace was mishandled and characters like Finn and Reva are shit because of bad writing. Most Star Wars fans are still straight white men () like it's always been anyways.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

You joke but this is how a lot of artists think. Even if people think their stuff is perfect the creators never will. Most directors aren't autistic enough to change things to the degree Lucas does but definitely could notice things that bug them. A lot of directors do end up changing their movies in small ways after they come out but since they're not Star Wars nobody cares.

@Sneed F91 I wasn't trying to be funny. George Lucas is an artist that respects what he makes as art and I think that's cool.

 

[Sneed F91]

@Sneed F91 I wasn't trying to be funny. George Lucas is an artist that respects what he makes as art and I think that's cool.

Oh ok, I must've had a slow in the mind moment or something. Do you think George being an artist gives him the right to edit the movies the way he did?

I think yes because he created Star Wars (and directed ANH) and if you want to watch the "original" versions of the movies, they're readily available online in 4K. Not only that but SW fans thinking he's the only director in history to do what he did to his movies is absurd.

 

[Bulk Bogan]

No offense but do we actually have proof of this being the case or was it just something Mike made up? Lando being black (and being put in for "woke" reasons) didn't really matter in the end because the character was based. Mace was mishandled and characters like Finn and Reva are shit because of bad writing. Most Star Wars fans are still straight white men () like it's always been anyways.

That's my point though, diversification was accomplished without harming the art. Billy Dee was the biggest black movie star of the time, and bringing him into Star Wars in a thoughtful and intelligent way means that any ulterior motives are masked and forgiven. Everything is cynical, but some things are far less cynical than others. We have the PT and ST to contrast against how well the OT did this!

 

[XYZpdq]

That's my point though, diversification was accomplished without harming the art. Billy Dee was the biggest black movie star of the time, and bringing him into Star Wars in a thoughtful and intelligent way means that any ulterior motives are masked and forgiven. Everything is cynical, but some things are far less cynical than others. We have the PT and ST to contrast against how well the OT did this!

eh, Billy Dee was cool
Rudy Ray Moore would have been more cool
James Earl Jones in the flesh would have been cooler
Blackula / Dystrom / Guy From Abby would have been most cool

 

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

even books where Han Solo gets a lecture on racism

Solo: Last Shot by Daniel Jose Older. There's a scene where Han is in the lobby of some building or something, and he tries to chat up a Gungan in the room by using the "meesa" and "yousa" speech patterns typical of the species, mostly out of a desire to be friendly. Then the Gungan turns to him, and in unaltered Basic, proceeds to racesplain Han Solo about how "not all Gungans talk like that", in a scene that rings about as subtle as a brick to the face.

The guy who wrote this garbage got promoted to being one of the chief authors for the High Republic project, btw.

Just like George always wanted for Star Wars. (((THEY))) really can't help themselves with any setting where "racism" is not really a thing. Even when there was "racism" in Star Wars, it was just different aliens not liking each other. Not some on the nose bullshit like this.

It is funny that deep down the people that believe "everyone is the same" or whatever see things in more racial terms than your average /pol/ user. They see Jar Jar in Star Wars (and other races), orcs and uruk hai from LOTR (and other fantasy series) as Black people LOL! Even in a future where humanity is "beyond" racism like Star Trek, they still feel the need to add racist/sexist White guys to the newer shows.

>setting is mostly or all White people and there's no racism
>add ((diversity))) to setting, and behind the scenes, to be more "inclusive" or whatever
>the whole series is now about fighting "White racism" and uplifting "oppressed" people
Funny how that works, huh?